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1401  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: US bank to bitcoin without ID verification on: August 27, 2015, 02:49:14 PM
Yes, you can deposit cash directly at a bank and get your BTC, just use this service:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=237164.0
1402  Bitcoin / Mining / Looking for a Miner in Denver on: August 27, 2015, 02:39:58 PM
I have been asked to do an interview for a TV station in Denver.

As part of the segment they would like to show a local Bitcoin mining operation.

It does not have to be huge.  They can get video of huge operations online.  They are looking for a small/medium local miner.

If you are interested in having your mining operation shown on TV and live in the Denver area please contact me.

I do not know if it would involve and interview or not.  I assume you could be shown or not, name shown or not, all up to you.
1403  Other / Meta / Re: How to insert avatar on my profile? on: August 27, 2015, 12:18:08 PM
I am new user here.

I think that is the answer to your question.

From what I understand you cannot.  You have to earn it.  I can insert an avatar, there is an option in my profile.

Hmmmm... maybe I should do that.
1404  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: BurtW arrested (update: charges dropped!) on: August 27, 2015, 12:12:50 PM
That's nice.
Can you give us a little description on what will be covered at the speech?

Sure, I can save you the click.  All three talks will be basically the same.  Copy/Pasted from Colorado Bitcoin Society above:


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If you have been in the Denver Bitcoin community for more than just a couple months you will have probably heard of Burt Wagner (BurtW in Bitcoinland). He has been tangled up in what is certainly the most public of cases involving person to person bitcoin trading.


BurtW will talk about his experience of being investigated and tracked for 18 months, indicted by a grand jury, arrested, charged with a Federal felony, and thrown into solitary confinement all over simply trading Bitcoins on localbitcoins.com.


He will also discuss the one year nine months of legal negotiations that led to the charges finally being dropped and the return of most of the property seized in the raid on his home and corporate offices.


We expect the talk to lead into an extensive question and answer session and the discussion of the subjects:  Bitcoins, localbitcoins.com, law enforcement tactics, the law, licenses, civil asset forfeiture, the prison system, the justice system, homeland security, the patriot act, surveillance, etc.  All of which happened to him personally.


http://www.jmwagner.com/home.html

and

http://www.burtw.com/home.html


Meetup structure this week.

6-6:30 Arrival and Drinks

6:45 Presentation

Recommended Parking at http://www.guarantyparking.com/

Discounted validation cards for this garage in the restaurant for paying guests.

Bitcoins accepted for all purchases of food and beverage along with tips.  (Not converted into dollars instantly)
1405  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin? Call the police! on: August 26, 2015, 11:30:14 PM
This is also interesting:

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A draft proposal has already been sent to CIA: http://[Suspicious link removed]/forum/index.php?topic=4473

Is this the link to the CIA forum?

Do you work for the CIA?  Where is this CIA forum you used?

He only has two posts, this one and a deleted one, it would also be interesting to see his deleted post.

No donations to his "cause" yet either:

https://blockchain.info/address/16aUA68RwMBzznqczK6QJvKEoByPSCQLWM
1406  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin? Call the police! on: August 26, 2015, 11:22:22 PM
I have filed a complaint with both the CIA (registered number C52WDE)

I was not aware that you could file such a complaint with the CIA.
This also interested me.

Please explain how you filed a complaint with the CIA.
1407  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Permanently keeping the 1MB (anti-spam) restriction is a great idea ... on: August 26, 2015, 06:04:08 PM
Max block size could be retargeted periodically alongside difficulty adjustments using average block size and the frequency of full blocks in a period with the hard-coded value as a floor.
Have you written a BIP?
1408  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Bitcoin 0.7.2 BETA - I need to upgrade on: August 25, 2015, 01:40:15 PM
I run BOTH, that is how I handled the choice.
1409  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Have you ever attended a bitcoin meetup? on: August 25, 2015, 01:33:24 PM
Not only have I been to a couple meetup in my area I volunteered to be a speaker at an upcoming Denver meetup and I just joined the new Boulder area meetup.

Colorado Bitcoin Society Monthly Meetup
Monday, September 14, 2015
6:00 PM
Southern Hospitality, 1433 17th Street, Denver
Colorado Bitcoin Society

My full speaking schedule is here:

http://www.burtw.com/speaking-schedule--new-.html

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BurtW will talk about his experience of being investigated and tracked for 18 months, indicted by a grand jury, arrested, charged with a Federal felony, and thrown into solitary confinement all over simply trading Bitcoins on localbitcoins.com.


He will also discuss the nine months of legal negotiations that led to the charges finally being dropped and the return of most of the property seized in the raid on his home and corporate offices.


We expect the talk to lead into an extensive question and answer session and the discussion of the subjects:  Bitcoins, localbitcoins.com, law enforcement tactics, the law, licenses, civil asset forfeiture, the prison system, the justice system, homeland security, the patriot act, surveillance, etc.  All of which happened to him personally.
1410  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin Goes Below $200 on: August 25, 2015, 03:58:24 AM


Halfing day is 48 weeks out so I'm selling everything I have now.
I'll wait to see if Bloat coin fork happens before halfing-day, if it dose I'll leave bitcoin forever.
If GavenCoin is killed and put to rest then I"ll buy back in just before halfing-day with plans to sell a few weeks or months after that.
I expect another huge 'to the moon' within 6 months after halfing day IF gavencoin is killed.
See.. drama around the next block subsidy halving has already started.  Wink
1411  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2015-08-24] Mixing Services Compound Bitcoin’s PR Problem on: August 25, 2015, 03:56:03 AM
Bitcoin mixing is necessary to preserve the fungibility of the system.  Without mixing Bitcoin will deteriorate from a fungible currency type thing to a collectible graded coin type thing.

It is an unfortunate fact/flaw in the design of the Bitcoin protocol that automatic mixing of transactions in every block was not designed in from day one.

So, everyone that cares about Bitcoin should mix their coins as often as they can afford to.
1412  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin Goes Below $200 on: August 25, 2015, 03:29:38 AM
I'd love the buy at these prices but I don't want to be left with a bag full of XT shit coins  Undecided
What the hell is everyone's deal?  If there is a true blockchain split and you play your cards right you get coins on both branches!  If you have 100 coins before the split you get 100 "Bitcoins" and 100 "XT Bitcoins"

No problem.  In fact I am running both full nodes and both wallets so I can double my coins if that happens.

I actually believe that any split will be temporary.   But it is fun to dream.
1413  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin Goes Below $200 on: August 25, 2015, 03:26:43 AM
When a market is trending strongly (in either direction), it tends to keep going in the direction.
It's sort of a self fulfilling prophecy.

For example, in a bear market, prices are falling.  Since no one knows where
the bottom is, buyers tend to stay away.  Few are interested in buying
until they see some support or strength.  So its a one sided market.

Eventually, the price will be so low that the bears are no longer interested
in selling at such a lower price.  Short sellers will be taking profits, thus buying
back their positions, and some early bulls will come in who see value at a discounted price.  
Then the market reverses.

Yes, this is my philosophy also.  

There has always been drama to blame the ups and downs on.  This time it is OMG/XT/Hern/GAVIN/The Sky is Falling/FORK.  Just another day in Bitcoinland for as far back as I can remember.  You noobs missed the first block subsidy halving.  Stick around for all the drama at the next subsidy halving - that will be fun.
1414  Other / Off-topic / Re: are the slot's really the most profitable casino game? have anybody tried it? on: August 25, 2015, 03:10:57 AM
Did you win smth? If the answer is yes, where can i play it? Grin
'Cause I haven't won anything in casino yet, actually. It's interesting to know is there in the world a person who outwitted a system?
Craps, playing the pass and come (or don't pass don't come) line only [no center bets ever] with maximum odds placed on a 10X odd table is mathematically the bet bet in the casino.  Period.

Unless you can count cards at a fair single or double deck blackjack table.

Slot machines are probably one of the worst bets.
1415  Other / Meta / Re: If you know for sure that NSA/CIA... are watching bitcointalk.org will U use it! on: August 25, 2015, 12:51:49 AM
This thread ended up having pretty nice insights on the topic... And many people posting too fast without looking at their posts. Anyways...

If the DA AUSA (Assistant United States Attorney - remember this is all Federal) believes you are guilty, and believes they can prove it then they should take you to trial; if they do not then they should drop the charges.
The AUSA and my attorney both agreed that the criminal case was a "coin toss" if sent to a jury.  We had a few pre-trial motions to try and assume they all failed the only thing left would have been:  Was what I was doing, trading Bitcoins on localbitcoins.com a business or not?  They claimed it was, we claimed it was not.  Since those wet noodles over at FinCEN did not define what constitutes a business as far a volume of transactions and/or volumes of trades and left it specifically ambiguous as "a matter of fact and circumstance" it would have been up to a jury to decide who was/is right.

BTW by not taking my case to trial this question has still not been decided.

This makes things even more weird. I question myself: what's considered a business? When does one have to acquire a license to trade? Do they emit licenses for Bitcoin traders so that they would be "inside" the law and be able to trade safely? Would a "licensed bitcoin trader" have to require ID to all the people they sell coins to?

If there's no law from FinCEN regulating what's a business or not, I'm curious how did authorities justify deploying people (from policemen to justice) to investigate, search, seize, look your things up and arrest you. There's got to be a reason beyond assets, even if it's a completely ridiculous reason. Maybe I'm failing something (haven't been catching up with the other thread about you).

Questioning your friends and having them give up coins is also very concerning.
Their motivation for spending all the time, energy, money to follow me, go to the grand jury, indict me, arrest me, etc. instead of just sending me a fucking one page cease and desist letter is one thing we can try to guess at.  My guess is that Aaron got it in his head that I was another Dread Pirate Roberts level cyber criminal and want the bust for his resume.  Even when all the evidence, or more specifically the lack of any real evidence, did not support his narrative he just doubled down, went for the search warrants and hoped for the best.  All conjecture on my part.

The legal justification for all of this is that they claim I was running an unlicensed money transmittal business end of story.  If someone runs an unlicensed money transmittal business then the law kicks in and they can do everything they just did to me.

Was I running a business?  There is no written guidance or law as far as I can tell.  We did not go to trial so the decider of "fact and circumstance" - the jury - did not decide this question.

You could go get a license from FinCEN before you set up to trade on localbitcoins.com - that is an option.  I believe it is free.  Then you would, of course, have to check and see if you also need a state license which sometimes does cost money.

Then:

You would need to read up on and abide by all KYC/AML, banking, reporting, etc regulations that any money transmitter is bound by law to do  - and there are a lot of them from what I understand.  So yes, you probably would be required, as a business with a money transmittal license, to gather all the KYC info on every single person you trade with.  Once they give you a license then they have you by the balls for sure.

FinCEN has stated that if it is not a business and you are trading for your own account then you do not need to get a license and none of that KYC/AML stuff would apply.

IANAL, but in real life I have paid hundreds of thousands of dollars to many law firms and discussed most of this with them.
1416  Other / Meta / Re: If you know for sure that NSA/CIA... are watching bitcointalk.org will U use it! on: August 24, 2015, 08:25:54 PM
I've posted this: Forum Shill gets Busted: ATS and GLP Censor to Cover his Tracks or it's corresponding youtube coverage which is nicely done on various threads here lately because I think it is important information (and probably 'true'.)
Very interesting and eye opening.  I believe that when we found out through our mailman that HS was investigating my business that was also a "slip up", although on a lesser scale.
1417  Other / Meta / Re: If you know for sure that NSA/CIA... are watching bitcointalk.org will U use it! on: August 24, 2015, 06:05:55 PM
so Burt,

what are the fed shills doing on these boards?  Are they mostly
in the currency exchange section?  Are they trolling?  What's going on?
I cannot speak for all the agencies in all the sections but in general:

Be careful with anyone, especially noobs, who asks "How do you <insert something shady or illegal here>"

Now this can be tricky.  Is mixing bad/illegal/laundering or good/necessary/important to preserve the fungibility of the system?

My personal opinion is that it is one of the flaws in Bitcoin that mixing of all transactions in every block is not a standard part of the protocol.  That is my opinion.

But more obvious things like "Hey bra, how do I buy drugs using bit coins" are more obvious.

Mostly they just copy what you say into your "file" however they have been known to post in order to get you to say more if they think it will help them.

Are you implying that Burt is working with them as part of a plea bargain or something and is privy to their internal strategies?
I did not take his question that way.

However, early on when we learned from our mailman that Homeland Security was poking around and asking him questions about our business my wife called them three times in order to find out if we were being investigated.  The agent in charge of investigating me at that time called her back and lied directly to her stating the no, they were not investigating me, her or our business.

In other words they are legally allowed to lie to your face.  If I was one of them I could also legally lie to you.  So, don't trust anyone.
1418  Other / Meta / Re: If you know for sure that NSA/CIA... are watching bitcointalk.org will U use it! on: August 24, 2015, 05:47:35 PM
Yes, the whole Gavin/Hearn/XT/Core/blocksize debate has even tried to pollute this thread.

People please:  there are enough (dozens) of threads on those subjects.  Please refrain from polluting this thread with those issues.
1419  Other / Meta / Re: If you know for sure that NSA/CIA... are watching bitcointalk.org will U use it! on: August 24, 2015, 04:43:28 PM
Yes. I'm still going to use Bitcoin. I have nothing to fear, I'm not doing anything illegal.
How do you explain this one?  He does not have a signature campaign yet he still thinks it is OK to just jump into a thread without reading it?
1420  Other / Meta / Re: If you know for sure that NSA/CIA... are watching bitcointalk.org will U use it! on: August 24, 2015, 04:42:14 PM
BurtW... Did they reveal any methods or sources to you, on how they gathered evidence against you? Surely most of this evidence should have been acquired through

legal methods like subpoena and not through entrapment? { I did not see anything mentioned on this, from your other main thread on this subject? }    
You bring up a very interesting topic.  Another one of those TV myths everyone believes.  The subject of entrapment.

tl;dr:  For all practical purposes there is no entrapment defense left.

Over time this defense has been slowly eroded by case after case.

In the old days a person had to actually do a crime.
Then they were allowed to entice and the suspect had to do the crime.

Now if they shove the crime down your throat and you do not immediately refuse and report it while it is being shoved down your throat they can use that against you.  Basically they can rape you and say you were asking for it.

In my case one of their undercover operatives solicited a large purchase of Bitcoins from me.  I suggested that we do it at my bank.  They refused (since it would blow their whole audio and video recording setup they had planned at the coffee shop).  So I said that I would prefer to do it at my bank but OK we can do it at the coffee shop.

Later I was told that it was not entrapment because the burden is on me to insisted on using the bank.

The entrapment defense is a thing of the past.  

A lot of "evidence" was collected through just asking for it:

They asked for and got all of my bank records for the last four years from every bank account of mine, my wife and my companies.
They asked for and got all of my phone records and all of my text messages (in and out and deleted).
They simply copied and pasted a lot of what I said on here.

Then they did a few undercover Bitcoin purchases which they followed me to, recorded, and then followed me from to see where I went next.

They put a tracker on my car to see where I went, who I met with, etc.

They interviewed some of my Bitcoin friends.  They were scared to death and one even cough up most of his Bitcoins to make them go away.

They distorted the truth to match their narrative of who they thought I was (huge drug lord with millions in cash and Bitcoin).  They, specifically the Homeland Security Agent in charge of investigating my case, were really hoping for a "Dread Pirate Roberts" size of bust for their resumes.
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