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1401  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][CHILD] X-CHILDREN : PROOF OF HEART COIN [LIVE!!!][POA][POI] on: September 09, 2014, 02:58:34 AM
Exactly. Sorry I was a bit confused what relaunch meant, if we start totally over on a new chain then that is fair.  If you don't have fgpa well get one, I only have 2 r9s and a 7950 myself. Just mining this one till sterlingcoin launch anyway lol
stirling looks interesting as long as not same fpga megaminer
1402  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][CHILD] X-CHILDREN : PROOF OF HEART COIN [LIVE!!!][POA][POI] on: September 09, 2014, 02:10:16 AM
they are mining nothing , the launch was delayed .they're on their own fork
and then they will be on right fork and were same place
1403  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][CHILD] X-CHILDREN : PROOF OF HEART COIN [LIVE!!!][POA][POI] on: September 09, 2014, 01:07:48 AM
1      bresa   9,411,141
2      Morgoth143666   1,999,671
3      shwin   508,371
4      longech1991   435,407
5      anonymous   424,406
6      anonymous   378,969
7      dingyuan   253,152
8      l35l   240,089
9      bojadin   87,839
10      EclipseRog   80,731
11      anonymous   67,081
12      mikidjale   44,281
13      rcguy   29,221
14      velial666   26,331
15      deblue

they dont even donate in pool
thats not fair at all
1404  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][CHILD] X-CHILDREN : PROOF OF HEART COIN [LIVE!!!][POA][POI] on: September 09, 2014, 01:06:17 AM
we really need to just give the biggie all the coins why bother nuthing fair
1405  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][CHILD] X-CHILDREN : PROOF OF HEART COIN [LIVE!!!][POA][POI] on: September 09, 2014, 01:05:09 AM
so bresa will have 500,000 looks like all coins will be his a fpga takes all
thats fair
some china fpga takes all i dont think so
x-11 sucks
1406  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Announcing ProzCoin : Proof of Action (PoA) on: September 08, 2014, 03:12:51 PM
beyond cryptocurrency in addition to other things

according to what if seen tabali talkinging about in cex chat

coinproz dipping into PORN

is this in the sites of the proz crew

hopefully its no larry in it i hope

pornproz?
Shocked
1407  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Announcing ProzCoin : Proof of Action (PoA) on: September 08, 2014, 01:01:39 AM
scott here
captain the engine wallet
its the kilingon crystals i can yet get them tuned
scott out
1408  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Announcing ProzCoin : Proof of Action (PoA) on: September 08, 2014, 12:31:19 AM
they are working on it
i can hear noise in the background sounds louder thsan santas workshop Grin
1409  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Announcing ProzCoin : Proof of Action (PoA) on: September 07, 2014, 03:08:18 PM
dont forget the mining thing
its gonna be a few weeks

i see some early adopters have sold under ipo price
is this something that our providers have expected
1410  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [AXR] Project Axron - POW has ended, Full POS has kicked in. Happy Staking on: September 07, 2014, 03:03:58 PM
look he is at work or is working
and im sure he would be very impressed if we came up with dev ideas for him to impelement into his program
instead of whining where he is
they dont let you work and bs on the computer
 Roll Eyes   
1411  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][GRN] GraniteCoin | ReDesigned Backend - Website - Roadmap --- Coming Soon! on: September 07, 2014, 02:40:18 PM
im new here it looks interesting
i downloaded the wallet
but its not syncing is it me i need to let it run some
or is there something i need to do
im just a newbie i guess
1412  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Announcing ProzCoin : Proof of Action (PoA) on: September 06, 2014, 06:46:07 PM
We announced that the first block was a test run.

My point exactly.  Your first block.  You have, now, a genesis.  Your coin is alive and kicking, please present to us your genesis block so that we may validate it as a legitimate block and, more importantly, so that we might know what the second block might look like.  Until you can do this, your chain is "stalled" as they say, no?

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 Now, what you are saying is ask us to show you the finished product when we JUST did the first test.  Our "Coin" has launched, but the "site" has still not.

The crux of the matter.  You've launched the product, but have no product.  You now have peoples' money, and seemingly no chain to show for it.

You did the "first test" but only you can know it.  You can't show the results of that test.  You don't have a genesis block, but are claiming you do.

Either start presenting a proof over an actual genesis block (or at least how such a proof will be structured - we'll certainly accept a working wallet with testnet only, heh) or start admitting that Prozcoin is unproven vapor, and that you have no working implementation of something that could rightly be labelled "Proof of Action." :|

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I think people are confused that we are "just" an altcoin.  The currency of "Prozcoin" will function as the main currency of reward within the Coin Proz infrastructure, as we already have partners/merchants that accept the coin for services/goods, but even further the entire point of this project is "mass adoption of cryptocurrency", not "having Prozcoin replace bitcoin".  Our goals are completely different than those of most of the coins on the market, so when you look at "Prozcoin" as an isolated entity, you are missing a much larger part of the point.

The problem is with Prozcoin as an isolated entity.  The problem is it is purportedly a cryptocurrency that we now own some of, but it does not apparently function as described.  There's no indication given yet that it is even actually a cryptocurrency at all.  How are we to know that we didn't just buy some sort of fantasy PPUSD-alike?  We bought the thing and you have our money, now we need to know if it actually does what it says on the tin.

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As far as you keep asking to verify the "proof", when the website is finished, the "user response" will be the metric for the Proof of Action, and will all be publicly trackable/verifiable.  At this point however, the ONLY way to actually be able to prove the validity of users "today" would be to give you their e-mail addresses, and that is not going to happen.

This would further imply that your "first block" is not actually a block at all, will not be a part of our chain, and that no proof is yet structured.  This seems problematic.

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We have stated multiple times that the test run is absolutely not representative of the final model, and many aspects of our "final model" have not been anywhere near revealed yet.

This is contradictory.  You can't claim a "first block" is proven when it is entirely unrelated to your chain or proving things.  We need to see a "genesis block for real" revealed before you can legitimately assert that any meaningful test of "PoA" was done.

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 We have been EXTREMELY careful to not make announcements about anything that has not been finalized, and this first PoA block was "proof of concept", as that is the first time this has been executed.  

This "block" did not prove the right right concepts, though.  Your concept is still unproven.  You have no proof of proof-of-action.  Wink

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If we had started PoA

You didn't.

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and saw little to no response,

We can't know what response you actually saw.

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even if the algorithm was sound, the actual "proof" is the "activity" and that would have been a failure.  Since we initiated the first PoA block and saw a tremendous response on all social media platforms, we NOW how the proof that our concept works,

Yet you can't seem to share this proof in any significant way.  If you hold a proof that only you can verify, does it really stand as a proof?  What does it prove, and to whom?

Surely you understand not only the notion of proof, but of peer review.  It is time to start giving up your materials for review.  Put your money where your mouth is, pun fully well intended.

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and further development in that direction is now justified.

Further development is obviously necessary.  Can we have some indication of prior development and some details of that further development?  Anything related to an actual implementation would be particularly reassuring to your investors, I'm sure.
none of this even matters their first act of selling coin with no money tranferer fin/cen aproval is very telling and speaks volumes of anthing not good ,
flawed fundamental cornerstone for which all this other is placed is bogus
and cant be fixed with year end coverup/exoneration
we will see how trading gos
1413  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Announcing ProzCoin : Proof of Action (PoA) on: September 06, 2014, 06:39:33 PM
Proz Market is NOW OPEN!!
well im not rocket scientist but where in this so i can see it ,youknow website or such  Grin
1414  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Announcing ProzCoin : Proof of Action (PoA) on: September 05, 2014, 09:02:38 PM
#Prozcoin ICO live at C-CEX https://c-cex.com/?p=proz-btc  official thread is https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=740383.0 … here to earn free PROZ  
#prozcoin #PROZ
isaw everyone with this same stuff
i just dont get it
as well
i wont get the 1 free coinz i did it for free

but guys heres the question

how will coinproz get the money from ico to buy the 3 three prototype somethings that code boy is creating $30000 as last we talked
is this your buy to end sale so you can cash out for development project which is why ipo  was
tell us brother how will coinproz get the invwester money from the ico to code boys hardware thingy of 30000 usd as earlier acknowledged  Cry

C-Cex holds ICOs for 3 days past the end to check records.  

The prototypes are being budgeted piece by piece, and will be on line item ledger. 


Chris
ok but isnt this whale thing alittle scarey they only want to steel money
and its a sure bet if pump comes dumps next
what is coinproz take on this possible whale activity as i see might be a threat to ico reason
if they manuver stock and steal before ,the code guys hardware thingy is stunted
1415  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Announcing ProzCoin : Proof of Action (PoA) on: September 05, 2014, 08:18:41 PM
#Prozcoin ICO live at C-CEX https://c-cex.com/?p=proz-btc  official thread is https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=740383.0 … here to earn free PROZ 
#prozcoin #PROZ
isaw everyone with this same stuff
i just dont get it
as well
i wont get the 1 free coinz i did it for free

but guys heres the question

how will coinproz get the money from ico to buy the 3 three prototype somethings that code boy is creating $30000 as last we talked
is this your buy to end sale so you can cash out for development project which is why ipo  was
tell us brother how will coinproz get the invwester money from the ico to code boys hardware thingy of 30000 usd as earlier acknowledged  Cry
1416  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Announcing ProzCoin : Proof of Action (PoA) on: September 05, 2014, 03:01:47 PM
Well, I see from the OP that not only will investors not be receiving any of the extra coins that may (or may not) be available if the ICO does not sell out, but they won't even be destroyed to shrink the float. I moved some BTC to C-Cex to purchase, but will now just wait to see how it goes on the open market. It was already a little pricey, in my opinion, but that really seals it.

I sometimes wonder what developers are thinking. The whole idea of raising money is to make it as attractive as possible for early investors. This not only makes it a fairer deal, on a risk/reward basis, for the potential investor, but it can also drive demand. This demand in turn gives the new issue (a coin in this case) a sense of high demand and momentum heading into its launch. This is not some revelation that I have made up or some griping out of thin air from someone who invests, it is the time honored way that money is raised. There is a reason that investment bankers purposely try to price a new stock below what they think it should trade at. And obviously, it sure ain't because they want to make less money.

For the record, promising returns from an ICO is technically illegal if you are not registered with FinCEN, so anyone who does an ICO and promises returns could be breaking the law.  That is why when we issue shares in Coin Proz, we will accept ProzCoin for shares.  That way early investors get the incentive of being able to trade for actual assets which DO promise returns, but as I said doing that with an ICO could potentially be highly illegal.  We had covered it earlier in the thread, but I had written an article that address the Oculus Rift debacle:

http://thecoinfront.com/iculture-marketing-the-individual-to-the-masses/

"A recent example that has spurned crowd-funding enthusiasts is the acquisition of “Oculus Rift” by Facebook for $2 billion USD after the project was created from crowd funding. After over 10,000 people invested in the project, the large acquisition yielded them nothing but “sincere thank yous” and “t-shirts”. While it can be debated whether the original investors are legally owed any dividends from the sale to Facebook, it seems clear that Facebook will receive most of the credit for the project’s success. It seems there is a paradox within counter-cultural movements to try and move away from old paradigms, but simultaneously needing the validation of the culture from which they are trying to move away.

Within the crypto-currency community, one example of this would be the largely held desire to move away from the central banking system, and the simultaneous desire to attract “Wall Street” investors to give digital currency legitimacy. On the one hand, the technological innovators want to create new systems to replace the old ones, but conversely they need start-up capital which often resides with the entities whom the innovators are looking to replace. "


Also, if there are a few coins left at the end of the ICO, we have considered the burn as an option. 

Chris
this is a big +1 with me 
1417  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Announcing ProzCoin : Proof of Action (PoA) on: September 04, 2014, 05:51:44 PM
nice story
i like this quote  its selling like ganja at a Bob Marley concert.
 Grin
1418  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Announcing ProzCoin : Proof of Action (PoA) on: September 04, 2014, 03:15:28 PM
Please show the address of the other coins in the announce OP, for anyone to check it.

http://www.svallet.info/addr/1PRozi3UhpXtC4kZtPD1nfCFXJkXrV27Wp

Balance=   70878994.00000004

Cheesy


Chris
if ico is 20 million
where is the other 10 million
was 100 million total right 70 million left  20 illion ico
help me with the algebra please
1419  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Announcing ProzCoin : Proof of Action (PoA) on: September 04, 2014, 03:12:23 PM
i like the burning one reminds me of home Cool
1420  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Announcing ProzCoin : Proof of Action (PoA) on: September 03, 2014, 07:48:53 PM
We have had 224 entries in a few hours.  Proof of Action appears to be off to a great start.

https://gleam.io/Y2FI3/prozcoin-proof-of-action

https://c-cex.com/?p=burst-btc<-----------------this
why is burst here ?
is this your coin i thought you guys knew what your doing

or is it another boo boo Roll Eyes
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