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1401  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Bitcoin trading and gambling on: July 12, 2023, 06:18:13 AM
In my opinion trading can be both gambling and not gambling depending on how you are seeing it. Trying to do risks spot trading on altcoins, it becomes a full gamble. With non-spot trading types, you are again fully gambling. The only non-gambling trading is bitcoin on spot market.

But it is natural to be inclined towards risky trading and therefore bitcoin spot trading is the least attractive for newbies. This should be decided by the trader as to how much risk they can handle with knowledge of the rewards

Trading is an EV+ gambling in a broad spectrum definition. Just do it as long as you are comfortable in it.
1402  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How was your first experience with gambling? on: July 12, 2023, 06:10:39 AM
The first experience with gambling for me was my realisation that gambling is a loss for the players and a win only for the owners and it's affiliates. Jackpots are not common and people think too much about their high confidence when they actually have none. This does not come to everybody and most people only think that if they play long enough they will win loads of money.

Hence I consider this as a life lesson and not a bad experience. This helps newbies to learn both sides of gambling and not be stuck with only one
1403  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: People with quick rich attitude always mess up with alt coins on: July 11, 2023, 11:27:43 AM
Even worse, they like to replace smart contracts with new ones. Yes. many are trapped with sweet promises by them. Maybe the white paper design is good and detailed and in my opinion it will be a reference and analysis for users or investors who want to enter but if the founder is ignorant, especially when performance drops. Now. what are the words we will definitely spit out..Oops..Rugpull again.
Scams are getting sophisticated but this does not change the basic greed that is the ingredient from the victim in getting scammed. There are people who observe this and this devise their methods and this these get rich quick schemes and altcoins that thrive on hype. All the creators of such coins are essentially scamming their investors and because unregulated nature they are able to get away with it.

Greed should be controlled for any trader to be able to profit.
1404  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How important is it to keep your bitcoin investments secret from others ? on: July 11, 2023, 11:23:35 AM
Not only cyber criminial but people around us that has an ill-intention.  We never know whether people around us will change or not once they knew that we have lots of treasure in digital world.  They maybe good to us but we all know how greed can change people.  There are even cases where a member of the family killing their kin just to get the money by themselves.  So it is really important that we keep vigilant and never expose that we are holding that huge amount of Bitcoin or else we might find ourselves in big trouble.
There is no doubt in this. Revealing your money to others is a grave mistake and every person whom you feel to be trustworthy can all of a sudden turn their morals against you and rob you. The internet is not the place to trust anybody and in real life your own money is at ever more stake. Hence the more you keep people in the dark the safer it is for you and your assets.

The person in front may have good intentions but they can flip any time in future and there is no way to know this if you are trusting them.
1405  Economy / Speculation / Re: This year is dumping ground for bitcoin on: July 11, 2023, 11:18:48 AM
I think there is no disposal for Bitcoin. In the crypto market, there are always sellers and buyers of bitcoin and that is a natural thing. If you look at the condition of the bitcoin market recently, it seems you are wrong to say that there has been a disposal of bitcoins. Where the price of bitcoin is currently increasing again and trading in the range of $30k-$31k.
  OP comment was in a time where Bitcoin was low and dumping and hence is no longer relevant. At present bitcoin is recovering from it's downtrend and we are seeing more demand than supply, so we can assume that the bear trend is stopping and a reversal is occurring. Still these are cycles and the comments here should be an indication as to how the common people respond to bear markets.

For now just keep buying and forget about what the OP said. In fact forget about anything that anybody says and only treat the prices as numbers.
1406  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Lost bitcoins on: July 10, 2023, 06:03:32 AM
Lost Bitcoins come from wallets with lost private keys, so those coins come off from the available liquid market and cannot be sold till someone gets the private keys. Assuming they sell the coins and if the amount is a significant one, only then the market might drop.

The person who lost the coins will not be happy about it. The rest of the people can be - however that is a very malevolent thing to say, being happy on someone's loss.

Hence we should always know how to keep our coins safe and not leak the keys to any site or person
1407  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trade with caution on: July 10, 2023, 05:50:59 AM
This has been discussed many times and yes we should not trade too much especially if you are still now capable to do so. Trading will always require and accurate analysis and you should have this first before you execute your trade, it you are not that confident better no to trade big yet. Learn everything, exert more effort and be more patient, trading also deals with your emotion so make sure to know how to control it as well.
Analysis may not always be accurate but you have to be identify the trend and place your trade according to that trend. Don't assume that what people say about prediction is hard and fast, rarely they come correct and you would better off not listening to those.

A lot of things in trading can be learnt from dummy trading on paper. This should be done my every trader in their beginner days and even in veteran stage. Keeping logs and tracking orders from them is a good habit and gives you a better sense of control over assets.

This takes time to learn and making mistakes on the way is just the process not the end.
1408  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Thoughts on the Next Crypto Opportunity on: July 10, 2023, 05:47:21 AM
A new crypto currency can only be groundbreaking if they solve a real life problem and have a good market making capability. Most of the shitcoins don't solve a problem but stack up on existing list of shit coins as just another coin fuled by the hype and craze of the market. You would be safer with bitcoin because it actually solved a problem than any altcoin.

Of course we might get more coins that are actually useful but this is still a waiting game and the niche market here gets much less recognition from the mainstream media than what is necessary to grab investors into paying for it. For now bitcoin is the only coin that meets these points.
1409  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: would you play more on casino when your country plans to ban BTC? on: July 10, 2023, 05:41:12 AM
As for seeking another pastime if Bitcoin gambling gets the boot, brilliant remedy indeed. Maybe this ban could be a wake-up call, redirecting our vigor towards less hazardous and more rewarding endeavors.
An addicted gambler will not be having a single second thought if their country bans bitcoin or gambling they will go for a different route to access their site and gamble again. These are just things to write and eye wash in front of the population if done but it does not stop gambling at all. That can happen only if the gambler decides to stop gambling themselves.

These are hazardous, no doubt, but the confidence of a gambler is difficult to control.
1410  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoins and it's potential on: July 09, 2023, 07:17:45 AM
Plus it's not always rainbows and butterflies with bitcoin mind you, there will be times when bear runs will drive you insane and put you on a negative balance, people who can afford to lose money like that are at least able to get by in this industry, at most achieve success, but if you couldn't cause you're impoverished in the first place, how would you be able to?
The question of trading bitcoin comes only after you have an established base of money to bear your bare necessities and doing surplus on top of that. I see the future of Bitcoin trading having a prosperous aspect but the basic needs come first.

However bitcoin does not solve a poverty problem with this. It can help people make money but that money comes from existing money and not out of thin air. There are many who are in this thought process and hence assume that Bitcoin will solve their problems, it's not the case. Rather those who are in stable economic conditions need to segregate their assets in such a way that money can saved for trading to make money. However this is all words and not practical unless you have the capital at hand.

Enthusiastic people should at first try to improve their own conditions first but then grow it with time and gradually collect bitcoin and increase their stash.
1411  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Country rankings in "Bitcoin friendliness" on: July 08, 2023, 12:51:05 PM
The term "friendly" and "legal" are much different, though being used synonymously here because of the common people's approach.

Asian countries have been opposing crypto for much time now. Comparatively Americana and European countries have been lax. I think the wikipedia article on bitcoin legality gives the best idea till date, but we are lacking in country-specific data from the crypto communities in those countries. Also the number of Bitcoin ATMs in a country show the West>East government-acceptance of crypto to be much higher.

Maybe OP could run a survey on the different local boards in this forum to gather this data and publish it.
1412  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: The green shouldn't always be the reason to enter the market on: July 08, 2023, 12:43:35 PM
How you can know the market is on its way up is when it's green because that's when the market will be pumping and you can also make some gains during this period but you should also take profits early so you don't miss out on your profits because of holding too long.
The break even price becomes the point of preparation to sell. Once that is crossed, the traders usually start selling after seeing a maximum possible profit in a bull market. However at the price, only those who bought at 25k USD or lower are the ones who will sell.

Those who bought at the higher prices than this will be holding patiently. This patience is what makes the difference between traders. Seeing others book profits and exit should encourage others to keep this patience because that will help them buy at much low prices and then sell at very high prices.

Obviously the green market attracts a lot of new traders, but this is the time to sell and not buy, hence again patience comes into the play.
1413  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: Crypto Passive Income on: July 08, 2023, 12:37:12 PM
Sure you can get crazy amounts of interest in some of the decentralized systems but most of them are traps. You better win a few to lose all.
Dont think that is a good option for anybody and the term "passive income" has been hyped a lot along with people who accept it as a good method to make money because of the term being an oxymoron - you cannot earn if you are passive. Consider the fixed deposit schemes of banks, yes that is a safer method than crypto based investments.

Crazy high amounts of income indicate that something fishy is going on, not that the project is super profitable or doing something revolutionary, that is what bitcoin has done.

What I observed from yield farming is that the long term proposition is not good, you carry a large risk than reward and hence I dont recommend it.
1414  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Where can i get the crypto whales signal??? on: July 06, 2023, 05:05:51 PM
Most of the time there is no way you would learn if a whale moved their money or not, that's just not going to happen, it would be very unlikely situation. This is why there is no need to expect it to change anytime soon. I believe that it is going to be pretty difficult to have anything remotely close to that again, it will definitely be a different situation to say the least.
Most of these cases I feel personally are overhyped and sold to newbies wanting something to see in the market. In reality, whales stay off the rader knowing the volume of their money and attempting to keep it safe from prying eyes. No whale would be that foolish to go around sending "free signals" to groups that could be followed by small fries. In the name of whales, its only scammers trying their luck.

But these groups have huge followership and are rampant on social media. First timers often make the mistake of trying them and lose money.
1415  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Buy ETH as much as you can.... on: July 06, 2023, 05:01:42 PM
I still have ETH in stock as of today and still haven't sold it. Of course, the profit was quite a lot and I only sold part of it to take my capital. Only profits remain and I will hold on until Bitcoin reaches a new ATH. At this time to buy again might be the right choice. ETH altcoin that can be used for long-term investments and always follows the Bitcoin price.
I also bought back in three digit price below 400USD and have not sold those coins at all. I hope higher prices are reached by ETH in future and then we can decide how to proceed. But in any case the price will remain high and bull trends will be next to bitcoin.

But buying as much as we can - is a all-in method and is not recommended for a rational trader. That lowers your diversification and a single shot down trend would bring down all your portfolio. Hence I suggest people to keep ETH in their folio but only a part in it. It is a popular gambling fallacy to go all in and it is a sure shot loss, dont follow them but balance it out.
1416  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: What your opinion? on: July 06, 2023, 04:56:05 PM
Doing that is such a hard task and unfortunately only a few people are capable of doing it. Well not "few" people, but few percent of people. Only 5-10% of the whole crypto world is holding for long term, most of them just trade based on what they see and they do not end up holding for long term. That's a wrong move and hopefully people will learn how to do better.
I have seen people enter crypto with questions like which coin is the next 100x or which coin will always be profitable but deterring from bitcoin or from long term holding. If you are going to avoid the holy grail of crypto and also not have the patience to hold long, that person should not hope for good returns, instead they are looking for a get-rich-quick scam.

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I think the best thing to do in this case right now is to make sure that we end up with a good return when we can, and it should be providing something that gets a good return. In order to do this, we need to provide proof to people that holding is a better way to make profit and that can be done too, but it will take some time before we can see a change like that, it may not be that easy at all.
Not everyone needs to preach it, just be a one-man army and run your trades as you want them to. Unless people learn from mistakes, they would not learn at all in this sector. Let them lose money and then see how humble they become if they chose to trade again.
1417  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Making a x10 or x100 by short selling on: July 05, 2023, 08:31:32 AM
Which is the same story as always, on paper it is very easy to imagine that if you just buy at the bottom and sell at the top then the profits you can get will be huge, but once you try to put your strategy into practice then things get way more complicated to the point that the perfect strategy that you envisioned crumbles under duress and you are forced once again to think about what you are doing wrong before creating yet another strategy.
Maintaining an Excel sheet for buying points help keep track of those numbers at a glance and then you can plan your selling points without doing too much calculation. Buying low and selling high seeme easy but the tough part is keeping this data and keeping patience in between the cycles in order to keep the profit margins maximized. Exit your positions at a good profit but don't expect profits to come in everyday.

In any type of trading other than spot trading the trader has to take a chance and thus the risk is higher. If you are up for gambling with your money, go for it. But remember that most of the newbie traders get trapped in it unable to make it out.
1418  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: How do you choose altcoins you buy? on: July 05, 2023, 08:24:27 AM
Research the coin's tech, devs, history. Asking myself, is this coin useful? Is it a good global currency? If not a currency, what problem does the coin solve? What use will it have in the real world in 3-8 years? Why will people want and use this technology? How unique is the technology of this coin (or is it the same as what 10 other coins are already doing)?
Almost all these questions get ticked if you put bitcoin in front. It solves the problems that fiat currency has and is not paralleled by any other coin. So the ideal coin we all need is Bitcoin and not any shitcoin. This idea should put aside all questions about whether a certain altcoin is worthy of buying and adding to the portfolio.

I would choose the altcoins on the basis of how they have done a change in th economic system and whether they are developing further. If their team is passionate about the project then it will do good. Only a few altcoins actually go by this so your options are limited.
1419  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: What tips you will give to a new investor to identify scam projects early ? on: July 05, 2023, 08:20:07 AM
I think that the most important is to check what exactly product the project offer and how useful is this project and how many people will use it. It is also necessary to check the team to understand how it can to realize all planned ideas.
The project idea of sells then the project will do good, this is a known fact. But most of the newly launched coins don't solve any existing problem rather load up the cesspool of shitcoins with more. Hence you can go by that idea and you will realise that most coins are worthless and thus stop yourself from investing into them. There can be an occasional good apple but that will not get the deserved attention because of the noise made by other coins.

This and working on the team members background yeilds a lot of insight on how the project might progress. I always tell people to give at least a couple of years if unsure about investing and then watch them before buying in.
1420  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Seniors vs Kids — in the future of Bitcoin on: July 04, 2023, 03:10:13 PM
Children should be sensitized about internet and its bad sides, how cybercrime is increasing in frequency and how it can be mitigated by some simple yet overlooked steps. Eventually they will come across bitcoin and when they do they should be taught about it with an unbiased mind towards bitcoin and altcoins. The process of creating a wallet, methods of buying and selling and how money is made from trading should be clear to them.

But we should not force these things on a child. If they are not showing interest, dont push it. Let them discover things on their own. Introduce this topic again in future when they are in a better mood, but never force feed it - that is where the seniors have to keep their patience.
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