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That kettle is an awfully dark black said the pot.
I am giving you ten merits for the laugh 😂 I just had.
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buy 1 s17e
buy 1 t17+
spend the 2000 on btc and hold it.
hold 2000 cash 💰
reevaluate this plan in 30 days.
do so in this thread 🧵 on june 6th.
this levels your risk in four ways.
note 📝 1 s17e and 1 t17+ may be a little less then 2000 cost or a little higher.
so the 2000 in cash may be 1900 or 2100.
this method covers you if everything crashes.
as you have cash 💰 to buy either bargain gear ⚙️ or bargain coins.
this method covers you if prices go up as you have 2000 worth of coin which will become say 3000
also you have about 120th which will earn more if there is a price jump.
buying the s19 or s19pro in your case is stupid. you won’t mine until july 31 or maybe aug 5
it has almost no path for the s19pro or s19 purchases to do better then my suggestion.
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1 question to those who have sent units back to Bitmain for repair:
Can i switch the hash-boards from another machine? Both machines are at warranty, however one works with 2/3 and the other with 1/3 boards.
I am thinking to combine the non-working ones into the same unit and send them for repair. Do you think that this is possible?
Ask them first. Most likely they will say no. but you never know. boards used to have serial numbers so you need to ask them if it is okay. |
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I have found a slight underclock and a few less cores really makes the gear more efficient .
The power function is geometric so the math will always favour underclocking to some degree. But, IMO, underclocking a TR is like detuning a Ferarri, it just doesn't seem right. Neither was designed with efficiency in mind, just performance. So far 26700 hash rate at 170 watts a mixed underclock or 27600 hash rate at 223 watts stock settings. temps are 71c on under clock temps are 80c on stock. 26700 is about $1.38 a day 27600 is about $ 1.45 a day 24 x 170 more like 24 x 200 = 5 kwatts which means 50 cents at ten cent power 24 x 223 more like 24 x 250 = 6kwatts which means 60 cents at ten cent power. it is a no brainer to run it at the under clock ⏰ I earn 88 cents a day vs 85 cents plus gear is quieter and cooler 😎 the be quiet air cooler does the job Been down clocking for an hour or 2. gear was set at freq 4000 volts 1.4 hash was 27600 watts were 223 freq 3700 volts 1.3 hash was 27100 watts were 205 freq 3500 volts 1.05 hash is 26200 watts are 127!!!!! will run at this setting for a while now add you small cpu and chips set you go to 150 that is 3.6 watts at 10 cents = 36 cents unit is earning about 1.36 net is very close to a dollar a day. now this is a costly build I got a lot of deals to buy it I had parts I sold parts. I lost 23000 xmr hash and some gpus I get back 26100 xmr hash power on the old gear was more then 1500 watts 4 gpus 4 cpus it mined at a loss power on this gear is 150-160 watts 1 cpu mines no cpu mines it mines at a profit. this is a one shot deal for me. although I am really tempted to buy the big beast 3990x. Just sell everything that mines to get it. I did a youtube video which is loading really slow. You can see the build. And listen to it it is pretty much silent. So At 150 watts 26200 hash = 175 hash a watt to be fair I have tried to get good numbers on down clock. at 250 watts 27600 hash = 110 hash a watt to be fair I have not tried to get good numbers on over clock. Sorry about loading time youtube is really slow with up load. It is about 7 minutes long I am up to 94% Build is finished other then adding some feet to the oak slab and a tiny bit of wire management. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4NwHJpyERQfinally at $1 a day it would take what 3000 days or 5 +years to pay back ? i suppose you mine to hold and wait for stuff to rise. A tr hear or there to diversify cant be a bad thing but gpus give me more options like the raven fork or other things to mine , there are just not enough cpu coins out there to justify it imo. All my cpu rigs have gpus too, i say throw a few gpus on with the TR to maximize the rig power be damed, mine something you expect to skyrocket in the next few years, new forks etc whatever and just wait. back in 2013 at one point i was doing that and i have 70k or more vertcoin and expcoin or something along with over 1000 ltc but i dumped my coins low when things crashes and my gear too. Im not doing that again It was not 3k for me. I sold off: threadripper 1920x with mobo 6k hash. 250watts Ryzen 5 3700x with mobo 6k hash. 125watts Ryzen 5 3800x with mobo 7k hash. 125watts 19khash. 500watts I have threadripper 3970x 27khash. 250watts. 4 parts purchased were: 3970x -------------------1900 aorus 500gb ssd --------- 130 Asus mobo trx40 -------- 450 be quiet cooler ---------- 90 total ---------------------- 2570 + 180 tax =. $ 2750 77 discount on mobo 2673 160 discount on thread ripper 2513 60 discount on threadripper 2453 26 discount on aorus 2427 5 discount on be quiet cooler 2422 net 1422 from sale of 3 pc's\ 1000 is true tax basis of this unit. not 3000 so for 1000. I get newest thread ripper with 3 year warrranty New mobo with 3 year warranty New ssd with three year warranty new air cooler that does cool unit off with 3 year warranty and fans are all that can break under 20 seconds to replace. so I get 8k extra hash and -250 watts that is 180 kwatts a month off power bill and my power now goes up to 20 cents for summer. so it means 36 a month power savings for 5 months = 180 certain savings so by oct 1st the 1000-180 = 820 and 150 days of 30 cents = 45 dollars. so by oct 1 820-45 = 775 out of pocket. But that is all clever accounting legal and only applies to me due to trade in of old gear. if I held the coin from the gear sales and converted it to cash I would have 1422 on oct 1. vs -775 and the miner on oct 1 Is the miner worth 1422 + 775 = 2197 on oct 1. well a normal purchase now would be 2750. I think on oct 1 I can get 1800 for it. so I would be down 400.00. with a state of the art pc and 2 years + 5 months warranty left on it. Is it correct to do? maybe maybe not I still have gpus mining. |
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less then 6 days and boom. |
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May I start you on the path to luck here is your first merit, cause your post got me to smile 😀 .
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if it says pay 💰 60 ,70 ,80 ,90 sats. I pay 💰 24-28 sats.
if it says 40, 50 sats I pay 💰 21 sats.
if it says under forty I pay 10 sats.
I also consolidate wallets on my three trezor wallets use 1 or 2 sats since 8 don’t care how long it takes from my wallet to my other wallet.
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coins are 8850 or for us miners 4425 in six days.
I see upwards trend till the 12th. and the storm begins
13.74 cents a th drops to
6.87 cents a th
100th of 50 watt gear. drops from 13.74 to 6.87 usd a day. 120 kwatts at 5 cents = 6.00. so profit is only 87 cents on 50 watt a th gear I estimate the network to be at 60-65 watts per th. A lot of gear will drop off here.
the s19 pro will go from 15.11 to 7.55.
5 cent power means it will earn 1.55 a day or 1800 days to break even at 5 cent power
3 cent power means it will earn 5.39 a day or. 517 days to break even at 3 cent power
I use a price of 2790 for a s19 pro. and the gear is due to show up in about 60 days so
1860 days to break even with 5 cent power
577 days to break even with 3 cent power.
and most likely. it will cost more then. 2790 if you buy today with shipping and import fees.
Trump is screaming about China owning the whole world for covid-19 translation he will jack import tax on china.
If you order a s19 pro today shipping date is July 1-31. It could be subject to a higher import tax. maybe 35%
that would mean it is not 2790 it will be 2633+167 = 2800 + 921 = 3700
3700 is 2387 days to break even oh add on 60 day wait for gear
it is 2447 day to break even for a 5 cent power guy.
it is 686 day to break even for a 3 cent power guy.
it is 550 day to break even for a free power guy.
translation. either price moves way up. or diff drops way down
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about six days to 1/2 ing prices of all they are selling remain the same.
coins are at 8850
which for a miner are like 4425 in six dayside to 1/2 ing
don't buy any gear until the price of it drops
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I will look deeper at your replies above but from what I get, there is no guarantee that one block after or before an empty block are lined by the same miner. So, I could be wrong, but I guess the Phil.'s request will be satisfied if I do an analysis for stratified fees by different groups of timegaps (in seconds) of 2 consecutive blocks found by the same pool, AntPool, ie. We don't have to rely on empty blocks, I meant.
I can do it for 1-year data of AntPool, from blockchair.com with above assumption (in seconds of timestamps). After having raw results with assumption, we might move further with correct timestamps in seconds. Let's me know if it meets your request. If it goes well, I can expand observed period to 2014 (6 years in total).
But for given data from blockchair.com, I have to assume figures for seconds are always 00, that somewhat biases results.
That idea could get it done. btc.com explorer does give a sec time stamp. I don't think they would cheat time on every pool that makes an empty block. over the last year. I have found them to be 6, 11 , 31 seconds apart. I am pretty sure there will be almost no empty blocks at the 1 minute plus mark. Frankly I would be most interested in the 2019 to 2020 time span pre ½ ing and then the post ½ ing data for the next few months. It seems that as block rewards lesson empty blocks over 30 seconds would be very undesirable. Would love to see it they drop down lower then the last year did. Especially with bitmain/antpool |
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so the ant pool stats page looks like. 1 sec block
the btc.com. shows. 6 seconds
inconsistent .
I think block timestamp variance is normal, some explore to use the "mined at" timestamp, they extract that from the block itself, others use the "received" time which is the time that their node became aware of that block, and it takes time to propagate the block, so it's there is no problem with that. The strange thing, however, with block 628,427 is that Antpool reported 2020-05-01 15:15: 53 while explorers (including those oweded by Bitmain) reported 2020-05-01 18:15: 47, one would think that the pool's time should be less since the pool first finds a block and THEN sends it out, I think the status on the pool pages are not accurate. You should keep in mind that the time displaying on every other explorer is under the control of antpool anyway, since they are the once who put it, they also own btc.com so they could change the status there too, I think this is only a bad input on the pool side, they might very well be counting on the miner's time and just so happened that miner's clock was off by a few seconds, since we don't know how does the pool itself gets it's timestamps, we can't conclude anything. but of their 2 blocks I checked 628428/628427 was 1 or 6 seconds apart 624652/651 was 31 or 34 seconds apart. I am looking to do 2 things establish that 1,2,3,4,5,6 second variance in reporting is random and neutral or favors ant-pool and see frequency of 1-15 second empties 16-30 second empties 31-45 second empties 46-60 second empties. antpool is the biggest pool it should have the most empties = fact simply because it is more likely they anyone to do a 1 second block. but the four groups above for bitmain should have for arguments sake 1-15 = 30% 16-30 = 25% 31-45 = 25% 46-60 =20% I have no idea what the % will be or should be I put those up for a simple reason they should be roughly the same if you use the unknown or f2pool or btc.com or bw.com the time ratios for all bigger pools should not be far apart. if antpool has a really different grouping it indicates intent ie antpool 40 30 20 10 all other pools 25 25 25 25 would be interesting to know they simply match the others and are bigger then the others or they do something to alter the ratios. of time. I am pretty sure they did not doctor all time stamps on the other pools if they doctored theirs this would show a big difference. If they match more or less they could just be bigger. the four category time ratio for empties could be helpful . put another way they have 17% of the empties and roughly 15-18% of the network but do their empty block time patterns match that of the other big pools empty block time patterns. |
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I think I can do something for you but I don't really get your ideas. I need a little more explanation. If I understand your request well, I think I have to get all blocks found by AntPool, includes empty ones, to have relevant data for analysis. That is not what I have now.
I know what phill wants, he wants the time between every empty block and the block the came right before it, in other words, if you have a total of 10093 blocks you will need to scrape 10093*2 blocks. An example: The latest empty block by Antpool is block 628428 , you will need the timestamp of that block and the timestamp of that block-1 which is block 628427. The problem with using blockchair is that the timestamp excludes the two digits that represent seconds, this means the time difference between those two blocks will be identical either 0 or 1 minute. What phill wants is to see if Antpool/BTC.com aka bitmian was trying to obstruct transactions by not including transactions on purpose, for that to be proven, the time between those two blocks needs to somewhat "long", anything above average probably means the empty block was mined empty on purpose IF that happens quite often. Another problem is, you are counting on Bitmain's stupidity leaving you such a trace, I haven't done any analysis in that regards but I am sure even if bitmain took 2 minutes to find the block, they could still alter the time in the block header and submit it as if it was a 1-second block, but by all means, please go ahead and do analysis. They could be arrogant enough to not hide it. I was looking at. their stats page and found. their last empty block was reported to be 1 second but it was reported to be 6 or 7 seconds on the explorer. so the ant pool stats page looks like. 1 sec block the btc.com. shows. 6 seconds inconsistent . what about their other empty blocks find a pattern in this and see if it is a cover up or if they simply make empty blocks due to large hash rate. the one below says 1 second yet if you search btc.com it says 6 seconds did they lie to cover up or is it a glitch https://www.antpool.com/poolStats.htm?tp=2 this one you need to look at btc.com to get prior block time you won't know how honest antpool is since they did not have back to back blocks but you still can see how long they claim it took them to get this block  this empty is way more shady antpool say 34 second gap if you look at time stamps btc.com says 31 seconds apart both 31 or 34 seconds are really long time for zero transactions.  |
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Can you break down the times of the antpool empties
even if it is basic time in sections
blocks 1-15 seconds
blocks 16-30 seconds
blocks 31-45 seconds
blocks 46-60 sections
blocks over 60 seconds
they have 1712 empties
one reason is they are a huge pool so they will make really fast blocks
1 second to 15 second blocks will have really low fees.
blocks over 60 seconds should not be empty.
I am interested in how many empty blocks of the 1712 are over 15 seconds vs under 15 seconds.
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we have 89 blocks to go. Latest Block: 628902 (a minute ago)
Current Pace: 100.5361% (1927 / 1916.72 expected, 10.28 ahead)
Current Difficulty: 15958652328578.42XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
Next Difficulty: between 16062513038107 and 16062717174428
Next Difficulty Change: between +0.6508% and +0.6521%
Previous Retarget: April 21, 2020 at 2:43 AM
Next Retarget (earliest): Tomorrow at 12:55 AM (in 0d 14h 45m 15s)
Next Retarget (latest): Tomorrow at 12:56 AM (in 0d 14h 45m 27s)
Projected Epoch Length: between 13d 22h 12m 29s and 13d 22h 12m 42s
logic dictates max out your hash now and until block 630000 which is 1098 blocks away. We could push to 1% gain this jump . and the first week of the next jump you may as well try as hard as you can to make coins. |
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Yeah. a modded s9 with 1 board doing 3.5 th does not even make the chart.
yet a lot of people will use them after the 1/2 ing.
they will mine solo
they will be a space heater first
and power price will be 7kwatts a day or 210 kwatts a month.
☮ 🌈 ⚛ ⚖ 🌐 📡 📖 📹 🔑 🛩
I am testing symbols.
please note:
Pattern order was lifted from a tweet by Andreas@aantonop. not sure if it needs credit.
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The prideful who keep blaspheming GOD shouldn't be tolerated (in a nonviolent way).
If possible, go on your knees if those exist in your society and keep pleading GOD for mercy & for their behalf. This people are indirectly harming societies or leading them to their destruction if left "unchecked".
Better to leave a society full of such people and those who tolerate/cheer them, if you can't control them.
Well there is a problem with blasphemy. A jew would be angry and think I am mocking god if a use a matza as a cracker for a cheese and ham snack. A moslem would think a was bad and mocking his god if i use the matza as a cracker for a piece of ham. a roman catholic would say hey phil that any good give me one so i can try it. all three religions define god to be the same being, but all three have lots of side rules. I wont go into Hindus and mutli god’s. SO what to do. Ask everyone are you jew moslem catholic hindu anogstic atheist? other. if i tell an atheist that he is a fucking moron to choose that religion he will want to kill me for the insult of telling him he is religious. I do have the solution to all these problems I social distance from everyone but my wife. Seems to work for me. |
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Please link the ebay listing to us.
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I'll see what I can do. I kinda want to just scrape everything, and make a huge csv. That'll come in handy for other analyses too.
It would be cool to see that a huge amount of empty blocks by antpool were 30-60 seconds vs 1-10 seconds as it would expose a pattern of bad acting that they are accused of. |
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They bailed both of us out.
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Mikey, I'll take you up and can you show me how to change the fan speed to 100%? Can you do it on Stock firmware?
Jacob
Remove the blue wire on the fan. you don't need to cut it. I will find a video for you https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9xeg_3eREcwatch first 1:45 time it shows you how to non destructively remove a wire. If you do the blue wire it will do full speed and the miner will still be able to give rpm via the yellow wire and power via the red and black wires. I have a really fine flat tip screw driver to do it. |
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