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1421  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: October 21, 2016, 07:52:34 AM
Of course it is not wrong if you gamble but you know how to control your self and know when to gamble and when it is time to take a break.
If you want to gamble then you should because it is not wrong unless you are hurting other people with it like family.
True, it will be become wrong if your family became affected in your addiction in gambling. But once you know how to manage money and your self and you know how to control your greediness. I think there will be no problem at all.
Bad if you are the head of the family because for sure they will be affected and their future will be compromise, it is only good if you have unlimited amount of money as you can gamble all you want but with a limited money it is a sign of being irresponsible father.
1422  Economy / Economics / Re: Do you Still believe in Fiat? on: October 21, 2016, 07:45:36 AM
Fiat is still remain and it will not disappear that is why believing in fiat is given because it is much usable than bitcoin right now even in the future. All of us having regular job are receiving salary in fiat and spend money in terms of fiat.
and the fact that bitcoin still rely on fiat as of now we cant removed the fact that the identity of our country rely on fiat so i still believe on it
whether bitcoin succeed we cant removed the fact that we still need fiat in most of our activity,.
True, the price of bitcoin is still influenced by the price fiat. Although digital currency in the future will be developed and widely used but I am sure fiat will still be there. Because fiat greatly affects the economy and development of the country.
That only way bitcoin will succeed against fiat is when the government will regulate this and it will replace fiat, but I do not think it will happen soon, there are more years needed to prove how valuable bitcoin is, and we are the living witness and part of the history if this will happen.
1423  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: do you accept bitcoins in your business on: October 21, 2016, 07:16:15 AM
I do not accept the bitcoin in my business because the fact is that no one is really interested in it from my customer so that is why I do not accept it right now.

how do you know that your customers are not interested in paying you with bitcoin? did you ask them about this and they said no?

maybe you should add the bitcoin payment option (bitcoin is accepted here sign) and then see how many will use it. it is not that hard to do it you know.

Yes people will ask you only if they see that bitcoin is accepted at your place and unless you don't display it no one will come to know about as they must be thinking that you are not aware about bitcoins.
If you have a physical store, you have to make it visible for the potential customer that you are accepting bitcoins, that is part of your marketing also and bitcoin is just one of the option as a mode of payment by your customers.

Yes and if it is visible to people then those who are aware about bitcoins will surely start spending them and it will also create an awareness among those people who are not using it.
It is like you are advertising as well in the physical world, most of the advertisement are done in the internet so as a businessman, you are doing a great job for spreading awareness about bitcoin and that is a big help or support to make this project a success.
1424  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Is 1000 btc Possible on: October 21, 2016, 07:12:49 AM
Well, if you can buy 900 BTC of some high potential altcoin and the price goes up just over 10%, sure. If your question is whether you can invest 2 BTC into some alt and wait until its price appreciates 500x, well, good luck with that.
900 BTC is a too much for a single investment in a certain altcoin, I think that would even be the total amount of bitcoins raise during the ICO of some altcoins, maybe if that is the case then why not participate in ICO , some of them offers rewards or discount for the first day investors.
1425  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How much can u lose with gambling? on: October 21, 2016, 07:09:47 AM
This is opposite from topic "How much can u win with gambling?". Well I`m on zero again, I`m looking how much I can win with gambling but actually I`m tryin to calculate how much can i lose. It`s always small amout`s but after many times this several small amount`s becoming one big one. There is some crazy stories on internet about people that have it all in one moment...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/men/active/mens-health/10976770/Online-gambling-how-I-lost-my-wife-children-and-750000.html
And this guy started  with almost nothing and made almost $500,000 gambling with Bitcoin, then he lost it all in about 60 seconds. https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/1ch7wb/

So pretty simple question, how much can YOU lose with gambling?

This is a perfect example that shows that martingale is not a winning system and if luck turns the other way, you can lose so much more than you tried to win in the first place (the 100 usd was his payout).

To answer the question of how much you can lose with gambling? It's simple, you can lose it all.

Depends on how you are emotionally and how disciplined you are though. If you can stick to strategy, you will never lose more than you planned beforehand.
For newbie they think martingale can give them an advantage but in reality, it will not work especially if you are using that playing dice games. The only way you can use martingale is if you are doing it in sports betting as there's no way a good team will have a losing streak like 10 times in a row.
1426  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is their any safe methods to gamble? on: October 21, 2016, 06:59:12 AM
There was never a way to gamble safe and there also never will be a way to gamble safe because gambling is not safe and its something that you cannot do safe too.
You can do some things to have minimal losings but that is all honestly.

One way of gambling safe is not to use your own money to gamble. So one way to get other people money is faucets. However, not related to gambling, there is also ways to get other people money like crowdfund to design a product and so.
and who will allow you to invest his money in gambling,  you cannot some one else money in gambling, i think the only way to  play gambling safely is to limit your gambling amount, you should play gaming with such amount that you can bare to lose.
If you are really good, other people will finance your bankroll and you will be the one who will manage their money, but that is very rare because if I am a gambler and I believe that I have a good chance to win in the long run, I will just use my personal money.
And with that your financier are expecting you to grow the money investing on you, I think that is a big pressure on your part as a gambler because the person who hire you does not want to hear that you are not successful with your gambling session.
1427  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are you Rich from Gambling? on: October 21, 2016, 06:44:12 AM
does temporarily rich count?  Grin
if you've won something, it's better just to take it and walk away rather than bet it again hoping you'll get a bigger pot.
maybe one can be rich WITH the help of gambling, no one can really be rich from gambling alone.

in another note, Lottery is a form of gambling. huh. so maybe you can be rich from gambling. after many years of buying tickets and guessing the correct combination, of course.
I think it does not count as all of us has experience winning in temporarily, and the real test will only happen when we are gambling regularly and since gambling has the big advantage over us, if we want successfully make money in the long run then maybe we can quality to the statement that we are rich in gambling.
One day I won 1 BTC and the next day I lose 2 BTC. That is the example I am trying to emphasize here, with that example I am a lose of a total of 1 BTC so in overall I am not rich in gambling with my losing record.
1428  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin to be international currency on: October 21, 2016, 06:41:20 AM


Bitcoin is already kinda an international currency. But i doubt that you can use it everywhere and anywhere. You can only use it to nations that accept it.
it's not limited by nation but limited by whether the shop is accepting bitcoin or not,i think every countries that having online shop there must be atleast one or more shop that accepting bitcoin as their alternative payment method and it's mean bitcoin can be used everywhere as long it's accepted

Bitcoin getting accepted only in few shops in entire country doesn't makes it an international currency, it can be treated as an international currency only if it is widely used and accepted.
No mate, your explanation is only limited to buying stuffs in online shops, there are many ways we can spend our bitcoins including remittance, so IMO it is already considered as an international currency as we transact worldwide in just a matter of minutes, bitcoin connects us and that makes it an international currency.
1429  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why Gambling is Fun? on: October 21, 2016, 06:36:06 AM
Gambling is very nice to do and also fun because of the fact that you can really enjoy yourself with it due to that fact that you can make profit and enjoy yourself at the same time.
I think the enjoyment part is for the most part the creator of the fun in it.
Gambling operators are clever, they created a very entertaining game so it will attract us to play in gambling and we forget that our chances are just lower so we bet and bet and if we are having fun we will not control our loses anymore as we tend to follow our emotions in the game.
1430  Other / Off-topic / Re: How to tell your Girlfirend about BitcoiN?? on: October 21, 2016, 06:32:16 AM
i tried to explain,but she didn't understand.
and in the end she said.
fuck that bitcoin.i don't care.
so i leave it.
Not all people you cannot are willing to learn bitcoin so your girlfriend is one of them, do not force the issue here because if you will force you are just like destroying your good relationship, respect is very important in a relationship and it is already good there's one of you who knows bitcoin.
1431  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How greedy you are ? on: October 21, 2016, 03:38:25 AM
I'm not at all because I do it for the game and the enjoyment you get from the game, its really fun doing it sometimes.
I never been greedy and it also would not be good at all.

Maybe now you haven't experienced it yet, but for once in your gambling life you would always encounter that.. A gambler always has that instinct when they are betting and they feel like unstoppable..Those who didn't feel greedy in gambling I think do not have future in gambling... Only those who dare to test the game has a good chance to win good in gambling, but if you are after the fun, I think there will come a time that you'll get bored in there...  Smiley
Even if you will make good bets and your percentage of winning will increase, still not good in gambling as in the long run you will still lose. Greediness is always a negative factor that will be a hindrance for your success in the long run.
1432  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Is bitcoin better or paypal? on: October 21, 2016, 03:24:05 AM
If I've paypal alternative then I'll never ever use paypal. They're greedy and take your money always mostly on ebay deals.

Since we have now alternative and its with bitcoin, even I if I just knew bitcoin from the start then I won't waste my time using paypal. Because they are really not fair for their charging fees. And they even charging you even your transaction is not going to be successful and you are not able to send money, so much greed.
Okay, but the worst things ever in my life about pay pal are they can suspending my account anytime with the unknown reason, and that is so fuckin for me, if  my account there are a lot of amounts are get a freeze cause by their regulation.
I guess they will not easily suspend an account for no reason, for sure you have violated on their rules that's why they suspend your accounts, but anyway that happens and shit happens. In bitcoin, I never had bad experience like that, except when I was scam in HYIP.
1433  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Is Holding Bitcoin a long time good way to make money? on: October 21, 2016, 03:02:50 AM
it is not the best way to make money, but I think it is the best way to make money without excessive risk. risks that should you encounter is when the price of bitcoin down, because only at that moment that you have less money. Well, perhaps the best way to make money is by trading, but it has a big risk
A risk is a risk mate, in trading you can learn your way to make money although it is risky and it has been proven by those good traders that there is money in trading, so I guess we do not need to worry so much of the risk as long as we can afford the money we use in trading.
1434  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: October 20, 2016, 11:20:00 AM
It's not wrong, just like alcohol or certain drugs (legal ones too!) are not wrong either. I'm not advocating intoxication but that's what it is. The danger exists for many people to become addicted like others have said. But anything can become an object of addiction if you think about it, hoarders for example it's a form of addiction. The problem lies within the person similar to how guns don't kill people, people do it (I'm also not advocating guns hehe, there should be more restrictions but owning a gun is not wrong per se).
To keep it real I do not think that you are doing anything wrong if you are gambling because that is your own money that you decide to spend that way.
Only if you are hurting other people somewhat then I think that it is wrong.
The thing is some are blaming gambling for their loses instead of themselves, surely you will not lose if you will not gamble your money, if you are just too appreciative in gambling when you win but blame it when you lose, I think you are being too unfair.
1435  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: do you accept bitcoins in your business on: October 20, 2016, 11:16:16 AM
I do not accept the bitcoin in my business because the fact is that no one is really interested in it from my customer so that is why I do not accept it right now.
Yes that is one of many issues when will accept bitcoins on business, but if you start accepting bitcoins on your business atleast will make popularity of bitcoins growing up, although there are not people who interisting use bitcoins on their real life.
there are people who interested to use bitcoin but they must be a technologies geek,not only a normal people because normal people would prefer to use the most useful currencies for the real world so it's their local currencies not the other one
In that sense then you need to start a business that your market are the geeks, you cannot just start like an online business selling dress or shoes but then your customers does not know about bitcoin and might know but does not have an interest to try it, one should be smart in starting a business and it should be ensured that there is a good market to succeed.
1436  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2016/17 NBA Off-Season on: October 20, 2016, 11:11:49 AM
Golden state seems to be in form Offensively already, scoring over
120 points vs the Lakers. I don't worry about the D to much because
its preseason but I definitely can't wait to see how the Warriors start
the year when the season starts.

First time I have been this excited to see NBA start. Normally I am focused on
NFL til after January.
Seems that gsw already got a lots of chemistry from all of their players moving the ball so well and allowing all the stars to show thier capability i love seeing kd working good beside clay and curry. Good luck gsw
That is because they have not meet the legitimate team so far, I will only tell that they have a good chemistry if they can play with the spurs, and better safe I would only tell after I see them play in the regular season, it is a different story in the preseason dude.
1437  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: is gambling fix your life? or wreck your life? on: October 20, 2016, 08:48:54 AM
Gambling will wreck anyone's life in the long run. People are fueled by greed to go to casinos and the games are addictive of the false sense that you can win jackpots if you keep gambling - its the business strategy. People end up losing everything while the casino owners become the real profit makers.
Nah i don't think everyone's life will be ruin because some people had skills on playing gambling even in real life or in online casinos people are making profit everday they dont greed that much so they can earn more than we receive monthly and never chase your lose thats the reason
If you are playing for the entertainment gambling will not wreck your life, only those people who gambles everyday will be subjected to that statement, there is what you called responsible gambling so if you could do that you are far from ruining your life.
Even those peoples still think gambling for fun only , they keep deposited their money because curious or want to try again for recover their losses.
Maintain your emotional and think about why you play gambling before play it for avoid the unecessary accident come.
People always think gambling is fun every where on this forum , but if you really realize that gambling don't gives us fun and you will curious that you are just loosing money and you will not recovered what you've lose in gambling your just making so emotional when you lose bitcoins.
Gambling is really fun in general because it was made for that purpose, now if you have a bad experience in gambling, then maybe you just have to keep it yourself because not all losers are lonely since we are also getting the right entertainment we want even we lose.
1438  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin replaces the money? Could happen? on: October 20, 2016, 08:38:36 AM
yes its quite possible if government starts acepting bitcoin for their transactions then whole country will accept btc too and when that happens i do not think faint money will have its current rerity because then it will have a strong opponent that is bitcoi  was more easy to travel and store
I think a good start when the government of your country at least begin to look at especially when they accept bitcoin bitcoin course it will be a very good thing for bitcoin, of course, if that happens. just a time where there are many countries that will follow

If in big countries bitcoin are being recognized as a legal currency then I will expect an booming economy of bitcoin and we will be able to make good profit on our investment, but I doubt that time will come because bitcoin does not fit in the system of the government as it is decentralized and anonymous.
1439  Economy / Economics / Re: Should I believe in Bitcoin ? on: October 20, 2016, 08:34:43 AM
Yes you should believe in the bitcoin because it has a great fiuture and it will grow a lot more so its just a matter of time before the bitcoin will become very popular!
I think it is a wonderful future bitcoin is formed from users who believe bitcoin, with such a bitcoin will remain present and remains a well-known and growing. with that bitcoin will have a wonderful future later
We have a wonderful future here because bitcoin is very progressive as evidenced by its substantial increase in value this year alone, that fact that is known to us is our basis to believe in bitcoin and if we believe we will invest on its future and we should do it now.
1440  Economy / Economics / Re: If Bitcoin had a stable price, would it still be as popular? on: October 20, 2016, 08:31:34 AM
i think if more people know about bitcoin then bitcoin can be popular and its not about bitcoin had a stable price, its about more people that will want to know and use bitcoin itself that will make bitcoin more popular
yeah I think there are other advantages of bitcoin besides having fluctuations that could make you rich. bitcoin certainly has advantages other than that and I think bitcoin could become popular as a great payment method, etc.
Since that is its main purpose then definitely it is already popular when time comes that we will be able to see a stable price, right now the price is not yet stable since users are not that many but we have to determine this time as an opportunity to invest or increase our investment.
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