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1421  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [ANN] Technobit HEX16A2 - 16 chip Avalon Gen2 board on: January 19, 2014, 02:31:10 PM



That has very low performance.. :/

Cgminer-API stats
Cgminer-API debs

No caps  pls
?
Lsusb -v
Dmesg also
1422  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [ANN] Technobit HEX16A2 - 16 chip Avalon Gen2 board on: January 19, 2014, 11:16:18 AM
...
Most probably because of the USB hub. Is it a tt one?
Lsusb -v?

Indeed the problem from usb hub  Grin You are really great loshia  Wink

I just buy another cheap usb hub that use FE2.1 mtt chip AXP807
I ask them about the chip before buy it  Cheesy
Work great  on TPLINK TL-MR3020  Grin



Super,
Try latest version no more dupes on hex16c  Wink and high CPU usage because of the nanos, but you will be fine just do not pay attention to it I can guarantee 5% performance increase for nanos
1423  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Gridseed GC3355 -Hybrid Scrypt/SHA256 ASIC on: January 18, 2014, 05:48:07 PM
So total per month for each one in $/kWh is

$350.00-USD 1x 280x 720kh/sec 0.09$/kWh 24/7 x 30 days = $16.20-USD
$1200.00-USD 12x usb miners 720kh/sec 0.09$/kWh 24/7 x 30 days = $1.50-USD

You would save $14.70 per month on your electricity bill, however you spent 650.00 more for the USB miners. It would take you 44+ months to make up for the cost.
So is it worth it? Not with AMD pumping out 20mn chips soon.

Also quick resell value of the 280x, around 300.  USB chips that only do two things? Not worried about ASIC for scrypt at all.
Do you think all sticks assembled will collect dust while waiting for their lucky owner?
Do you think that thousands of chips produced will patiently  wait to be transformed into USB sticks
I don't



If someone wants to pay for it, sure full steam ahead,  esp the people who have high kWh numbers.   I won't.  You get no warranty from this manufacturer making the USB chips and try to resell it? You got a nitch market you gotta deal with.  Video cards are easy to resell.
Me either but it does not matter because there are no rules anymore in OTC mining
Welcome to btc ASIC world guys Cry
1424  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Gridseed GC3355 -Hybrid Scrypt/SHA256 ASIC on: January 18, 2014, 05:40:32 PM
So total per month for each one in $/kWh is

$350.00-USD 1x 280x 720kh/sec 0.09$/kWh 24/7 x 30 days = $16.20-USD
$1200.00-USD 12x usb miners 720kh/sec 0.09$/kWh 24/7 x 30 days = $1.50-USD

You would save $14.70 per month on your electricity bill, however you spent 650.00 more for the USB miners. It would take you 44+ months to make up for the cost.
So is it worth it? Not with AMD pumping out 20mn chips soon.

Also quick resell value of the 280x, around 300.  USB chips that only do two things? Not worried about ASIC for scrypt at all.
Do you think all sticks assembled will collect dust while waiting for their lucky owner?
Do you think that thousands of chips produced will patiently  wait to be transformed into USB sticks
I don't
But if you do there is nothing to be afraid of except diff going to the moon nothing ele
1425  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Avalon ASIC users thread on: January 18, 2014, 12:30:34 PM
I don't think it's worth your time to bother with the scamcoins: remember you need to maintain a working full node for them, and IIRC the ones with merged mining are all buggy and a pain to keep running (besides namecoin, anyway).
That being said, if you guys want to setup a bounty on something, I will of course consider it.

Unrelated note: I still don't have an Avalon myself to work with, so if anyone is planning to get rid of theirs, please let me know...


I want to end up with (a) shell script(s) that can start with a fully standard newly installed & updated Ubuntu 12.04 (Precise Pangolin) that has bytecoind built & installed,

1.  do apt-get install <list of necessary stuff for eloipool>
2.  git an eloipool distribution
3.  perform any necessary localizations and have bytecoin mine to that eloipool installation.

I am aware of the eloipool installation thread, but I still have some learning curve and have not been successful getting it to work.  I don't know whether I am an hour or a month away from reconciling the working system that I have, and the differences between it and the forum thread's procedure.

I can provide access to a VirtualBox installation of Ubuntu with bytecoind if that will be helpful.
I have a 2nd VM with a working eloipool + bytecoin, but this was the result of unzipping a file sent by a forum member, and I want to have a process that goes to official sources.

What sort of bounty would interest you in this?


Luke,
I will just need mm proxy sample to talk to scam coins daemons and any specific secrets to scam coin + Nmc daemons  also
 Wink
Profmac,
Probably best will be to open a bounty thread with public record of donations. I am sure that when we collect enough Luke will show up. The best will be that he will answer to our questions later? Thee is not universal how to
1426  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [ANN] Technobit HEX16A2 - 16 chip Avalon Gen2 board on: January 18, 2014, 07:37:56 AM
..................
Lack of steady 12V to the board explains why it was disappearing BUT there is a bug which submits dup shares which is fixed and under testing. So watch technobit site for updates Wink dup shares were caused because of voltage problems Grin


New patch for cgminer 3.10.0 + openwrt image v 0.1.7 Download  Grin
Yeah no more dupes and back to max nano performance Cheesy
1427  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Antminer S1 open for sale again] The last round before the Chinese New Year on: January 17, 2014, 07:43:37 PM
cyberspaced,
1. Since beginning I am telling people not to buy at this price so I do not care my money are not spent for something that will not roi even at 2.2 btc
2. As bitman says it was Holliday when you requested cancelation. Besides what was the reason for cancelation because you fill fucked up?
Or because of an hour shipment delay? are you a god or a god relative to complain for delay in hours which does not have any influence to your delivery date?
And finally do not forget that from a legal point of you btc payment bitman owns you NOTHING. Even spending his time to answer you
So in your inteRest is to keep your anger in place and learn your lesson for next time when to buy
I strongly suggest next time to Ryder from Bfl the service rocks there as an US company
1428  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Antminer S1 open for sale again] The last round before the Chinese New Year on: January 17, 2014, 07:19:32 PM
Finally received an answer from Bitmain, graciously avoiding my questions. Just saying that my Ant will be shipped today and tomorrow I can get a tracking no. on their site... So paid 2,65 BTC and it is still hashing on Bitmains account Shocked

Jeez

+1 !! Wink

But atleast you got an answer... I mail-ed to info@  webmaster@ send a PM and a forum post (a few hours ago for the forum post but the where online for a couple of times)
Not to troll , but there moving more in line with the other miner company's as it comes to reply-ing and customer satisfaction.... And that is a bad thing ofcourse ;(

Yes, and I got a mail from Bitmain:

"we are prepareing 0.2 btc coupon for the customers  who buy S1 at 2.65BTC, and the coupon will be to customers' account directly.
because there are so many orders waiting for processing, we can't reply you timely, and please trust bitmain, wait patiently.
thanks for your understanding."

What a joke, admitting that I and others have paid to much but not willing to refund the 0.45 BTC that would be fair, nooo a Coupon for 0.2 BTC!!
You gotta be kidding, Bitmain!!
So yes, yet another ASIC scam!!!

Hi,
we respect your private and won't post the email here. but we should tell the real fact: you have requested to cancel your order at 10:06 beijing time in the morning Jan.17
and another important thing: your order was shipped out on time. in general, it takes some time to confirm the payment and arrange shipment for each order, so we promise shipment within 48 hours after customers finish full payment.

at last, we pay for the double shipping cost to meet your requirements, and full refund to you, the loss of time is for both of us.  
we are trying our best to serve our loyal customers.




cyberspaced:



Hopefully you get your refund so you can quit clogging this thread up with your dribble..

If you are so bothered by my posts, I have a solution for you: look to the left, theres some blue letters "Ignore" click there and you don't need worrying about my "dribble" anymore!! Happy now?
Dude I can see your anger. I am not bitman advocate my posts prove it. Bitman Is right on spot here there is no room for complains or refunds it is my personal opinion. i am wandering when you missed the promo price why yo ordered at 15% increase any way because of promo hook or because they will be out of stock.
As I said many times something big is coming and they are in a hurry to sell off prices are going to drop they just need a space to plug something powerful in that is all. I personally expect a sell of price but when you are buying it want never happen

1429  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Avalon ASIC users thread on: January 17, 2014, 07:04:27 PM
I don't think it's worth your time to bother with the scamcoins: remember you need to maintain a working full node for them, and IIRC the ones with merged mining are all buggy and a pain to keep running (besides namecoin, anyway).
That being said, if you guys want to setup a bounty on something, I will of course consider it.

Unrelated note: I still don't have an Avalon myself to work with, so if anyone is planning to get rid of theirs, please let me know...

Thanks Luke! Guy's what about to collect some bounty and have how to from an expert?
We can skip scam coins if we like of course
1430  Bitcoin / Mining software (miners) / Re: BFGMiner 3.10.0: modular ASIC+FPGA, GBT+Strtm, RPC, Mac/Lnx/W64, AntU1, DRB, HFA on: January 17, 2014, 06:34:01 PM
Luke, just to bring this to your attention,
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=140539.msg4568041#msg4568041
Excuse my cross post
Pls comment it if you like
10X
1431  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: SOLO mining question - Re: Avalon ASIC users thread on: January 17, 2014, 06:28:19 PM
ProfMac,
Will you share how you did it? Soon i plan to move al my avalons to solo before switching them off. As far as i know we can mine 4 Alt coins + BTC
Posting your configs + modes will be enough or patch Grin

Thank you

I'm working on a script that will pull the eloipool git, and apt-get install the support libraries for a Ubuntu VM.  It's not ready to release yet.

I anticipate that all the Avalons will mine alt coins sometime soon.  There is one pool + exchange that is implementing auto switching to the most profitable alt coin.  They are having trouble with the fast ASICs at the moment, but they are actively working on a fix.  This is http://www.coinex.pw for worker registration, and stratum+tcp://stratum.coinex.pw:9944 for the pool address.  I'm mining BTE on it with one of my Avalons.

Even during beta, their switched pool has 5 TH/s.  Even with an Avalon, I think solo mining is a thing of the past.



Not quite true. By my calcs merging 4 alt coins + BTC can almost pay the power bill. And you can wait safely for the jackpot  Wink However i am about to do it solo. That is what i was asking. There are a plenty of good tutorials how to setup eloipool. The interesting part is pool config and most interesting is merged mining proxy support for all alt coins Wink

I did set up a virtual machine, made the Bytecoin client, and unpacked a zip file that someone on the forums sent me.  I went through the tutorial from a thread here on bitcointalk and also the diff files between bitcoin and bytecoin sources, and made the changes to the init file.

My impression at the moment is that the git that I am working with is a solo mining version that is hard wired to 1 coin.  The block payout address is hardwired into the initialization source.  This is my first Python project, and so far I do not have a good understanding of the source.

I'm willing to forward the zip file to you.  I don't know enough about git to know if is a useful too to just deposits diffs or otherwise help with this effort.


Mm proxy is doing the trick it is located in Luke GitHub. I am damn sure that it is a pice of cake for him. So I propose if you want to open a thread with a bounty for him or someone else who can write tutorial. I hate that word though. We need btc + 4 alt coins
I do not have time to moderate  / collect in such a thread that will be best approach in my point of view
What do you think? Besides all we know that a single mistake in the setup can cost a lot

what about you Luke? Are you going to do it?
1432  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Antminer S1 open for sale again] The last round before the Chinese New Year on: January 17, 2014, 02:40:44 PM
Bitmain is graciously avoiding all my questions!

I don't know if it is because they don't understand english or because they just don't want to answer. But my guess is that they like so many other ASIC venders, are driven by greed and don't give a flying bleep about their customers...

So I suppose Bitmain will have a blast this New Year for the $400 extra we have paid on the 2.65 BTC batch!!!
Do not forget the BTC income from mining dude  Wink
Do you have tracking number? If yes ignore BTC income my fault if no.... Lips sealed

Ok, so you tell me how one Ant is supposed to mine 0.45 BTC in one day, because that is the difference on delivery for the 2.65 and the 2.2 batch!!!

Well Lets say this. IT sure take longer for them to answer a simple message than that iT would take an antminer to mine 0.45 btc


Not for one dude for eight just for next diff jump. Just the time 2.2 get delayed in shipping. I might be wrong though Lips sealed
As i said the man is wise and good businessman and he knows his math well
1433  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [ANN] Technobit HEX16A2 - 16 chip Avalon Gen2 board on: January 17, 2014, 01:49:23 PM
What exactly are dupe shares?

I seem to have quite a few of them - 21.61 GH/s   1619976 (99.82%)   2906 / 10924 / 0
Same shares submitted to the pool twice - you should see them like rejects R
you can calculate your actual hash rate as follows:


21.61 GH/s * (1-R/A)  =  PAID hash rate
Have in mind that Rejects are caused because of stales also.

for instance i mine at bitminter and my rejects are below 0.5%. It is normal to have rejects this is unavoidable

To make accurate calc run your miner for a day to avoid variance and be 100% sure that there were no pool/network issues Wink



Thanks for the calculation.

Miner been running for 3 days, so pretty accurate. I don't believe I have power issues either, so maybe a problem with the pool rather than the miner itself.
The problem with dupes is that they afect your hash rate and you can get false feeling that it works better when do not take in account rejects. Anyway watch technobit site for update fixing this it should be released soon
Once again rejects will be always there even dupe issue is fixed that is the way it works with other boards/vendors also. There is no workaround for this
And finally precise formula as suggested by kano

Paid shares
cgminer-api devs
[ASC1] =>
(
   [ASC] => 1
   [Name] => HEXc
   [ID] => 0
   [Enabled] => Y
   [Status] => Alive
   [Temperature] => 0.00
   [MHS av] => 22030.36
   [MHS 5s] => 19677.28
   [Accepted] => 179
   [Rejected] => 7
   [Hardware Errors] => 1245
   [Utility] => 0.57
   [Last Share Pool] => 0
   [Last Share Time] => 1389967128
   [Total MH] => 414125041.5510
   [Diff1 Work] => 96422
   [Difficulty Accepted] => 104448.00000000
   [Difficulty Rejected] => 524.00000000
   [Last Share Difficulty] => 512.00000000
   [No Device] => false
   [Last Valid Work] => 1389967232
   [Device Hardware%] => 1.2747
   [Device Rejected%] => 0.5434
   [Device Elapsed] => 18798


To be more precise as ugested by kano

2^32/[Device Elapsed]*[Difficulty Accepted]/10^9

My score is lucky though i rebooted cgminer but it shal give you almost same result as the 21.61 GH/s * (1-R/A)




1434  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: SOLO mining question - Re: Avalon ASIC users thread on: January 17, 2014, 01:47:14 PM
ProfMac,
Will you share how you did it? Soon i plan to move al my avalons to solo before switching them off. As far as i know we can mine 4 Alt coins + BTC
Posting your configs + modes will be enough or patch Grin

Thank you

I'm working on a script that will pull the eloipool git, and apt-get install the support libraries for a Ubuntu VM.  It's not ready to release yet.

I anticipate that all the Avalons will mine alt coins sometime soon.  There is one pool + exchange that is implementing auto switching to the most profitable alt coin.  They are having trouble with the fast ASICs at the moment, but they are actively working on a fix.  This is http://www.coinex.pw for worker registration, and stratum+tcp://stratum.coinex.pw:9944 for the pool address.  I'm mining BTE on it with one of my Avalons.

Even during beta, their switched pool has 5 TH/s.  Even with an Avalon, I think solo mining is a thing of the past.



Not quite true. By my calcs merging 4 alt coins + BTC can almost pay the power bill. And you can wait safely for the jackpot  Wink However i am about to do it solo. That is what i was asking. There are a plenty of good tutorials how to setup eloipool. The interesting part is pool config and most interesting is merged mining proxy support for all alt coins Wink
1435  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [ANN] Technobit HEX16A2 - 16 chip Avalon Gen2 board on: January 17, 2014, 12:56:41 PM
Hi,

i downloaded cgminer 3.8.5 and patched it with the patch from technobit. Then i did a configure with ./configure --enable-bflsc --enable-avalon --enable-hexminerc

When its done it shows me:
------------------------------------------------------------------------
cgminer 3.8.5
------------------------------------------------------------------------


Configuration Options Summary:

  libcurl(GBT+getwork).: Enabled: -lcurl
  curses.TUI...........: FOUND: -lncurses

  Avalon.ASICs.........: Enabled
  BlackArrow.ASICs.....: Disabled
  BFL.ASICs............: Enabled
  BitForce.FPGAs.......: Disabled
  BitFury.ASICs........: Disabled
  Hashfast.ASICs.......: Disabled
  Icarus.ASICs/FPGAs...: Disabled
  Klondike.ASICs.......: Disabled
  KnC.ASICs............: Disabled
  ModMiner.FPGAs.......: Disabled

Compilation............: make (or gmake)
  CPPFLAGS.............:
  CFLAGS...............: -g -O2
  LDFLAGS..............:  -lpthread
  LDADD................: -ldl -lcurl  compat/jansson-2.5/src/.libs/libjansson.a -lpthread    -lm compat/libusb-1.0/libusb/.libs/libusb-1.0.a -ludev -lrt

Installation...........: make install (as root if needed, with 'su' or 'sudo')
  prefix...............: /usr/local


I don't see a hexmierc option and the miner, after i did a "make install" does not know the hexminerc options ->

 cgminer --hexminerc-voltage 900 --hexminerc-options 16:540
 [2014-01-16 16:12:09] cgminer: --hexminerc-voltage: unrecognized option

can anyone help with this?

Thanks Michael



Now i managed to compile it with the exact version pulled from the git repository and autogen but is it really true, that the hexminer patch breaks the butterfly support? So i have to compile 2 versions and let them run at the same time?

Bye
Michael

Yes it does for sure written in Changelog
If you have nanos use --enable-hexmineru (make sure stock bitfury is disabled though) works great otherwise compile and  run two instances with appropriate devs enabled only
Or better for other devs just compile stock version
1436  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Antminer S1 open for sale again] The last round before the Chinese New Year on: January 17, 2014, 12:44:34 PM
Bitmain is graciously avoiding all my questions!

I don't know if it is because they don't understand english or because they just don't want to answer. But my guess is that they like so many other ASIC venders, are driven by greed and don't give a flying bleep about their customers...

So I suppose Bitmain will have a blast this New Year for the $400 extra we have paid on the 2.65 BTC batch!!!
Do not forget the BTC income from mining dude  Wink
Do you have tracking number? If yes ignore BTC income my fault if no.... Lips sealed
1437  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [ANN] Technobit HEX16A2 - 16 chip Avalon Gen2 board on: January 17, 2014, 12:17:28 PM
What exactly are dupe shares?

I seem to have quite a few of them - 21.61 GH/s   1619976 (99.82%)   2906 / 10924 / 0
Same shares submitted to the pool twice - you should see them like rejects R
you can calculate your actual hash rate as follows:


21.61 GH/s * (1-R/A)  =  PAID hash rate
Have in mind that Rejects are caused because of stales also.

for instance i mine at bitminter and my rejects are below 0.5%. It is normal to have rejects this is unavoidable

To make accurate calc run your miner for a day to avoid variance and be 100% sure that there were no pool/network issues Wink

1438  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: SOLO mining question - Re: Avalon ASIC users thread on: January 17, 2014, 12:07:47 PM
Please forgive me, I've searched and can't find this info in the thread, so I apologize if I missed it...

I'm solo-mining on my Avalon chip-based rigs and they seem to be using getwork and not GBT.

In the "More Options(Default: --quiet)" field I've tried the trio of "--quiet --no-getwork --no-stratum" and then it won't start hashing at all.

So, when solo mining, I'm getting about 1850 Getworks per minute and about 185 Getwork Fails (10% seems like a non-random number)...

Some system stats:
Firmware-20131110, cgminer-3.4.3, 16x55nm chips, about 200gh/s total per unit

My impression is that you must use stratum to get an Avalon to mine.  I pulled a version of eloipool and modified it to work with an alt coin, and my Batch #2 Avalon did mine 1 block with it.  This was just proof of concept and curiosity, not a production mining configuration.


ProfMac,
Will you share how you did it? Soon i plan to move al my avalons to solo before switching them off. As far as i know we can mine 4 Alt coins + BTC
Posting your configs + modes will be enough or patch Grin

Thank you
1439  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [ANN] Technobit HEX16A2 - 16 chip Avalon Gen2 board on: January 17, 2014, 11:01:41 AM
Yo, but i have 4 rail ^^

............
Why do u think that they can only maximum 2 board handle?
................


Cause one HEX16C used 9A  Cheesy

one rail is 19A, so only 2 board(2 X 9= 18A) per rail.
Read carefully what i post there, i am talking about per rail not all PSU.
That is why i am making my molexes by hand 2 mm wire crimp+soldered pins  Grin And i am making sure that from PSU site i have at least 2mm wires yellow + 2mm blacks

Apart of the jokes no serious

Lack of steady 12V to the board explains why it was disappearing BUT there is a bug which submits dup shares which is fixed and under testing. So watch technobit site for updates Wink dup shares were caused because of voltage problems Grin


 
1440  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [ANN] Technobit HEX16A2 - 16 chip Avalon Gen2 board on: January 16, 2014, 04:23:46 PM
Hi,

i downloaded cgminer 3.8.5 and patched it with the patch from technobit. Then i did a configure with ./configure --enable-bflsc --enable-avalon --enable-hexminerc

When its done it shows me:
------------------------------------------------------------------------
cgminer 3.8.5
------------------------------------------------------------------------


Configuration Options Summary:

  libcurl(GBT+getwork).: Enabled: -lcurl
  curses.TUI...........: FOUND: -lncurses

  Avalon.ASICs.........: Enabled
  BlackArrow.ASICs.....: Disabled
  BFL.ASICs............: Enabled
  BitForce.FPGAs.......: Disabled
  BitFury.ASICs........: Disabled
  Hashfast.ASICs.......: Disabled
  Icarus.ASICs/FPGAs...: Disabled
  Klondike.ASICs.......: Disabled
  KnC.ASICs............: Disabled
  ModMiner.FPGAs.......: Disabled

Compilation............: make (or gmake)
  CPPFLAGS.............:
  CFLAGS...............: -g -O2
  LDFLAGS..............:  -lpthread
  LDADD................: -ldl -lcurl  compat/jansson-2.5/src/.libs/libjansson.a -lpthread    -lm compat/libusb-1.0/libusb/.libs/libusb-1.0.a -ludev -lrt

Installation...........: make install (as root if needed, with 'su' or 'sudo')
  prefix...............: /usr/local


I don't see a hexmierc option and the miner, after i did a "make install" does not know the hexminerc options ->

 cgminer --hexminerc-voltage 900 --hexminerc-options 16:540
 [2014-01-16 16:12:09] cgminer: --hexminerc-voltage: unrecognized option

can anyone help with this?

Thanks Michael


First autogen.sh dude instead of configure then make Smiley the. BFL and avalon will not work anyway so you can skip them and you can build 3.10 patch is available in technobit site
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