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14261  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: LITECOIN and DASH on: May 03, 2015, 04:08:53 AM
What LTC and Dash is better that BTC? What a joke LTC and Dash are all just numbered. Atleast bitcoin still has strong development and it will not collapse.

Actually, this is true.  But LTC and Dash days being numbered, no.  Or at least I hope not.  We need more diversity in crypto.  It's just more fun that way.
14262  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: BitShares Loves Puppies on: May 03, 2015, 03:39:58 AM
Cool. Thanks.
14263  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Initial Coin Distribution Importance on: May 03, 2015, 03:32:39 AM
Not that important.  Like anything, a project's team is more important, millions in funding, and the idea itself.

I couldn't have said it better myself. Look at btc, Satoshi owns fat stacks but nobody cares.

Yup.  That didn't stop it going from nothing to $230 per coin in 6 - 7 years, did it?  It's not that bad actually.

and that's why the distribution doesn't matter that much.

Yes that's what I said.

I know man.,... I just been blazing mad weed tonight so my brain keep farting.. My bad!

Nah it's cool.  You can do it again if you want.  Let's make happy little nested posts and see how long we can make it last.

You mean keep brain farting? If so its gonna smell pretty bad in here in a bit. Maybe I should twist up a fatty and call it a night.. yeep.. fatty and a massage from the wife and Im off to bed.. later dude. I'll see ya around im sure.

Stay 420 strong my fellow pot brethren.



What?  You going?  I thought you're staying.  Tell your young beautiful hot wife to let you stay on for a bit.  I'm pretty sure she's ok with it.  Come on, let's make more nested posts, it'll be fun!


Sorry man.. the wife calls so i gotta answer
Can't blame you man.  She is hot!

You been stalking my wife dude?  Angry

Wuuut?  Nah man.  You intorduced me to her.  Don't you remember?

Bob, I think I may have over-simplified what I was trying to say about initial coin distribution.  Here's the thing.  Imo for a 2.0 project like Ripple, they might get away with the fact that they have one of the worst distributions out there.  Here's why...  

  * Ripple Labs is a for profit company.  So in effect it is in their interest for XRP to go up.

  * We know their identities (devs, execs, etc...), and know that they could get imprisoned for fraud if they do
     any shenanigans.

In Bitcoin's case, it must be very important.  And the fact that Satoshi holds 1m BTC may be a problem.  Why...

  * We do not know who he really is and what he intends to do with his coins. He cannot be held liable for
      anything because he's anonymous.

So I think knowing a person's identity, his intentions and that he can be held liable for fraud has to be given more importance than distribution.  Not saying that distribution isn't important at all.  Because if one dev wants to be anonymous, then distribution must be fair as much as possible to encourage trust in the system.
    

Edit:  I started a thread about why Satoshi didn't "burn" his coins if he doesn't have any intention in gaining access on them in the future https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1045997.0

Some inputs with be nice.
14264  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Does Satoshi still have plans to access his coins? on: May 03, 2015, 03:18:13 AM
I was doing some research on Counterparty and thought "Why didn't Satoshi "burn" his coins if he didn't have any intention to access them again?"

So maybe we'll see those coins move in the future?

Edit:  For the newbies.  Here's a wiki for "proof of burn" https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Proof_of_burn
14265  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: BitShares Loves Puppies on: May 03, 2015, 02:57:32 AM
Just wondering...  How much funding did Bitshares get (from VC's, IPO, etc..)?  I am trying to compile a list of the highest funded Altcoin and 2.0 projects here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1045967.0

14266  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: Warning! don't used "coingather.com" Any more! on: May 03, 2015, 02:32:01 AM
Hello everybody,

i deposit more than 8300 NTRN in this fucking site "https://www.coingather.com/"
when i try to withdraw it
i show this message "ProcessedError"
that's problem from Apr 20, 2015 11:30:59 AM

i contact him many time , without any response , BeCareful guys

Confirm Printscreen


They gather your coins?
14267  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: What Altcoins have the Highest Funding? on: May 03, 2015, 02:22:34 AM
Right!  How could I forget.  How much funding did they get?  Over 5m USD?

Edit:  They got 31,531 BTC.  Added in OP.
14268  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / ICO Projects and Crypto Platforms News and Info. Make Profitable Trades. on: May 03, 2015, 02:05:29 AM


Bitshares (BTS) - 500,000 USD from investors + 5625 BTC in donations (via BTS AGS)
Chart
Blog
Community
Github
Team:  Looking for the page (Founder:  Dan Larimer and Stan Larimer)



Ethereum (ETH) - 31,531 BTC from ICO
Chart
Blog
Community
Github
Team



Ethereum Classic (ETC) - 31,531 BTC from ICO
Chart
Blog
Community
Github
Team




Lisk (LSK) - 5,880,089 USD from ICO
Chart
Blog
Community
Github
Team




NEM (XEM) - around 63 BTC from ICO
Chart
Blog
Community
Github
Team (Scroll down)




NXT (NXT) - around 21 BTC from ICO
Chart
Blog
Community
Bitbucket
Team




Ripple (XRP) - Over 30M USD from VC's
Chart
Blog
Community
Github
Team



Stellar (XLM) - 3M USD from Stripe
Chart
Blog
Community
Github
Team



Stratis (STRAT) - 915 BTC from ICO
Chart
Blog
Community
Github
Team



Waves (WAVES) - 29,635 BTC from ICO
Chart
Blog
Community
Github
Team




Any other projects and their funding you know about?  Please post them.

(I'm going to set this topic to self-moderated to prevent trolls and shills, but I'm now allowing positive and negative feedback to a point.  Please read update below for more info.)

Please note:  Funding is not everything in an altcoin.  The teams behind them matter much more, so it would be wise to visit their website and find out who they are.  It is also advisable to check their output via their source code repository.  Ratings for each can be checked here https://www.coingecko.com/en

Update (06/08/2016):  Removed the platforms/projects with super low volume in the exchanges.  Those that were removed had daily trading volume that stayed only in the hundreds of USD, of which we do not want people buying into because of higher chance of becoming bagholders.  Decent volume and liquidity is a must if an investor wants to get out of a trade due to various reasons.

Positive and negative feedback are now allowed as long as they're not shills and FUD.  Feedback must be articles or blogs from known devs that you might have read about a platform/project, negative or positive.  One example is this one:  http://bitcoinhivemind.com/blog/case-against-augur/.  I'm sure there are many more.  Please post them.

Update (05/18/2017):  Added Augur, Gnosis, Golem and Waves.

** The list is not official and is subject to change. **
14269  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: What is the most liquid altcoin? on: May 03, 2015, 12:37:05 AM
Because it would be the network all our banks might use?  As in...  we will have no choice in the future...  

Ripple is coming after banks.

Also, if you're comparing the Ripple network with Paypal or Neteller, then it's clear that you have not done your research.  Imagine if all the major crypto exchanges become Ripple gateways, we would have one SUPER EXCHANGE in Ripple.  You hear that?  SUPER MEGA EXCHANGE.  If you thought moving crypto from point A to point B was easy...  Ripple will make it easier.  Assuming all exchanges are Ripple gateways that is....


Banks are give xrp's for free by the millions with a clause that they cant sell before a certain time in lieu to state publicly that they use the Ripple network, not xrp's.
The fast majority of "available" coin have this clause attached including jebs 10 billion stash.

99% of times no xrp is needed you go straight from fiat to bitcoin or whatever you want to change (frequent flyer points, phone credit,.....) Only in the most extreme circumstances  will you need a xrp (exchanging you cats tail with a square hose shoe......)

Lastly if a Bank closes up shop or Ripple is the same thing your stuffed. All is gone, totally different to bitcoin as long as you dont have your bitcoins on an exchange and it closes up. You might as well keep your fiat, banks are far safer than some company you deal with over the net, most likely in a foreign land.

The current price is mega inflated, if not banks would buy like crazy instead of waiting its time to dump.
Educate yourself before trowing away money.



But but what if XRP start go to moon?  Still not buy?
14270  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Initial Coin Distribution Importance on: May 03, 2015, 12:27:25 AM
Not that important.  Like anything, a project's team is more important, millions in funding, and the idea itself.

I couldn't have said it better myself. Look at btc, Satoshi owns fat stacks but nobody cares.

Yup.  That didn't stop it going from nothing to $230 per coin in 6 - 7 years, did it?  It's not that bad actually.

and that's why the distribution doesn't matter that much.

Yes that's what I said.

I know man.,... I just been blazing mad weed tonight so my brain keep farting.. My bad!

Nah it's cool.  You can do it again if you want.  Let's make happy little nested posts and see how long we can make it last.

You mean keep brain farting? If so its gonna smell pretty bad in here in a bit. Maybe I should twist up a fatty and call it a night.. yeep.. fatty and a massage from the wife and Im off to bed.. later dude. I'll see ya around im sure.

Stay 420 strong my fellow pot brethren.



What?  You going?  I thought you're staying.  Tell your young beautiful hot wife to let you stay on for a bit.  I'm pretty sure she's ok with it.  Come on, let's make more nested posts, it'll be fun!


Sorry man.. the wife calls so i gotta answer
Can't blame you man.  She is hot!

You been stalking my wife dude?  Angry

Wuuut?  Nah man.  You intorduced me to her.  Don't you remember?
14271  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: BitShares Loves Puppies on: May 02, 2015, 04:17:43 PM
You can ask Duke, the Bush Beans dog, but he ain't talkin'

 Smiley

Ok...
14272  Bitcoin / Electrum / Re: JUST HAD 0.92329 BTC STOLEN - HOW??? on: May 02, 2015, 04:01:19 PM
lol no. fuck no.  Cheesy

You have 2 computers on the boat?
14273  Bitcoin / Electrum / Re: JUST HAD 0.92329 BTC STOLEN - HOW??? on: May 02, 2015, 03:55:57 PM
A fake Electrum server  Roll Eyes

Is that possible? and is elctrum responsible for that at all?

If it is indeed an Electrum bug, then they will compensate you for sure. But I'm not sure what kind of harm a fake server can do, since the signing of the transaction happens locally and no one should have the knowledge of your seed

If your VM machine was not running when the theft happens, then the weakness should be in the seed or private key

Well either way I'm fucked. Accepting donations to my sig.. Fuck my dignity. hah Sad

That on the same computer?  The hacker is probably reading this and licking his chops.  Cheesy
14274  Bitcoin / Electrum / Re: JUST HAD 0.92329 BTC STOLEN - HOW??? on: May 02, 2015, 03:53:08 PM
A fake Electrum server  Roll Eyes

Yes, This is a very likely possibility. Do not use auto-connect with SPV clients and select an older trusted server.

Fuck I've been screwed so many times. BFL, Avalon, mtGox, 50BTC, blackarrow. Fuck them all. Only got back in to BTC recently after about 4-5 months. I give up.

Yeah.  It's just one of those things, you know?  Fate, karma, cause and effect or whatever...  It's probably the whole universe trying to tell you that Bitcoin isn't for you.
14275  Bitcoin / Electrum / Re: JUST HAD 0.92329 BTC STOLEN - HOW??? on: May 02, 2015, 03:37:54 PM

No this a fairly new build (PC). ANd I've been isolated completely living on this boat.

Perhaps we should follow the hackers breadcrumbs...

3lectruM fail. More2come SWX

What version of electrum are you running? Where did you download it from?  Since you are using a SPV client what server did you connect to?


No one is willing to give that info in public right now.  It could be an Electrum vulnerability.
14276  Bitcoin / Electrum / Re: JUST HAD 0.92329 BTC STOLEN - HOW??? on: May 02, 2015, 03:24:50 PM
Trust me. I'm on a boat, with a personal crappy old laptop. No one has been near this. My internet is 150kb/s tops and I hate it!

Additionally, think about anyone else that has access or come in contact with your computer or any usb drive in the past. Additionally, since you are on a boat with a 150 kb/s connection that also brings 2 concerns to my mind : 1) you aren't keeping your windows box patched because of your extremely limited bandwidth. 2) You are using a wifi hotspot that is compromised.

The fact that you are so incredulous that you have been compromised is a security concern in itself as their are so many ways to be compromised with the way you store bitcoins. At most you should be upset and slightly shocked that you were compromised but aware that you made some security shortcuts and need to do better in the future.
No one I know knows about bitcoin

Probably someone does.  He's following you.
14277  Bitcoin / Electrum / Re: JUST HAD 0.92329 BTC STOLEN - HOW??? on: May 02, 2015, 03:14:36 PM
NEw address has a new tag:

https://blockchain.info/address/1FpsRjQXFgiGzLNwyb2UC7bDNkj99xwdnf

wtf does that mean?!?


...
it seems that this guy now that you was using electrum, at least the tag indicate so, could it be that he is exploiting electrum weakness?


Wait, can I say one thing? .... and if it is only a joke by the OP (I'm only asking, but it could be possible).




Why I am thinking the same thing? Sorry about your coins OP, but this is really strange TBH.

Thank god I'm using armory.
14278  Bitcoin / Electrum / Re: JUST HAD 0.92329 BTC STOLEN - HOW??? on: May 02, 2015, 03:13:19 PM
What else was in that computer?  No naked selfies I hope...
14279  Bitcoin / Electrum / Re: JUST HAD 0.92329 BTC STOLEN - HOW??? on: May 02, 2015, 03:01:07 PM
NEw address has a new tag:

https://blockchain.info/address/1FpsRjQXFgiGzLNwyb2UC7bDNkj99xwdnf

wtf does that mean?!?


...
it seems that this guy now that you was using electrum, at least the tag indicate so, could it be that he is exploiting electrum weakness?


Wait, can I say one thing? .... and it is only a joke by the OP (I'm only asking, but it could be possible).




Huh?  You saying bennybong is joking? What?  You mean a prank?
14280  Bitcoin / Electrum / Re: JUST HAD 0.92329 BTC STOLEN - HOW??? on: May 02, 2015, 02:56:50 PM
NEw address has a new tag:

https://blockchain.info/address/1FpsRjQXFgiGzLNwyb2UC7bDNkj99xwdnf

wtf does that mean?!?

He's implying an Electrum vulnerability...?
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