So let me get this straight:
2x BFL Singles is 100GH/s for ~40BTC
1x 4unit Avalon is 85GH/s for ~100BTC.
And the BFL will still use less power, even tho it's not as low as they'd hoped.
Why are you complaining again? ...because BFL has never shipped an ASIC mining product and Avalon has? Because Avalon buyers have actually been given a real shipping date? The time for BFL fanbois to point at other companies and say "hey BFL sucks, but look at them!" has passed. BFL is the only ASIC mining vaporware provider left. ALL of their competitors have either sunk or swum, which is sad really as BFL was the first to announce an ASIC product. Avalon and BFL are not in the same league. One is an ASIC hardware vendor and the other is a vaporware producer that just raised their prices and cancelled products that they never even produced. |
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the 1.5THs isnt out of stock. BFL simply cannot make it work cause they're a bunch of monkies over there.
Maybe it's because they banned private ownership of thermonuclear weapons?   This made me laugh so much. Thank you. +1 Frizz is a hoot.  Plus Josh *HATES* him...which is a huge pro in my book. |
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This newb(vitalemontea) began this steam account sale here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=167439.0...but when I thought we'd agreed on terms he sent me a non-functional login/pw. Fortunately I didn't trust him and never wasted the $$$ purchasing his simcity key to exchange. Please use caution when dealing with this individual. |
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I keep switching back, because apparently coinotron is under attack too, but the stales are over 30%.  |
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Meh. Nevermind I'll pass. If you seemingly cannot manage to remember your password for 5mins or have the sense to write it down you're either too dumb to deal with or more likely trying to scam. Either way I pass.
Good luck with your "auction" bud, thanks for wasting my time.
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Don't understand the employee/contractor debate at all...seems like a sideshow.
BFL shipped nothing.
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wasteful  Meh. That's what you get when you're spending other people's money. See US Congress for reference. |
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Tried it 10x now, doesn't work. Login or password incorrect.
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Fail. |
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k, I created an account at...wherever I'm buying this thing...initkeys. PM me steam info and I'll finish purchase of your key.
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Deal. I will PM you login but please don't change any settings yet. My email will stay verified in account, so I can retrieve it.
After I get key, I will unverify my email and you can verify yours.
Thing is I'm bored of games I have in my account, what's point in hoarding them when I can trade them for new game that I haven't played yet? I can understand that. I get bored with games in about .2 seconds. Hmmm...but if you can just retrieve the account after I send you the code for the simcity thingy, then what's the point? |
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Yes, it's just code you will receive in your email.
You give me code, I give you permanent control of account. Your account is a little more than two weeks old, which I don't mind telling you makes me nervous. If you PM me the steam account login and password I will check it out and if all is as you say I will purchase said simcity key and PM you that code within one hour. |
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So is that thing that you just linked to just a simple key code? Like I pay for it and get a key that I can then trade you for permanent control of said steam account? Forgive my questions, I know nothing about this stuff, I'm just trying to obtain it as a gift for my kid, who actually cares about online gaming. |
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BUYOUT with Simcity key only. It costs $50 Does that mean the steam account is not for sale without a simcity key? ...whatever that is? What does your last post mean exactly? Did you create an auction and then change the terms in midstream? |
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The scary thing is how few even seem to recognize these controlled demolitions for what they are.  |
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Now they damn better start shipping within couple of months Heck yeah! If BFL begins delivery in a couple months it'll be an even year from order date to delivery for some of those early investors. Now that's pro. |
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My guess is that they're desperate to prevent paid orders from being cancelled to stave off bankruptcy. Telling people that "all orders are final" is cute drama, but illegal in the US for a pre-order product.
I believe that is what they mean Yifu. However according to creativx, what they are now doing is an illegal manouvre? Im unsure on the legality of this statement as I live outside the states. BFL is a US company. They cannot enact that policy and comply with FTC/SEC regs. I believe they're just posturing to stave off insolvency. Sorry, I agree with much of what you say but you have gone too far. BFL "cannot" do that because it against the law? Seriously? Sonny stole money from retirees selling them fake lottery tickets. Josh/Inaba CONSTANTLY was illegally soliciting investors and using his own name (that is an SEC securities solicitation violation). Josh has been hosting a co-loc of bit coin miners for non USA residents that do not pay USA income tax and would each have to form a business to be legal (that is money laundering). Josh tells people that they can "leave their rigs in MO/KS" and save the tax of their country but DOES not charge them state sales/use tax (that is fraud). He does this all over public forms and does not care about the law. Why would he care about the rule you linked? Nasser works for a broker dealer that has rule against ANY employees engaging in an outside business without submitting a form for compliance to approve (which they NEVER approve especially if it has ANYTHING to do with f/x, commodities, debt or securities. And you think so "law" is going to stop these guys? They have broken so many laws constantly for the last 12 months. They do not care about any laws because they KNOW the suckers that live in their parents' basements that they have stolen this money from them WILL DO NOTHING. Perhaps. Everyone has a breaking point. I'm sure there's a reason why BFL keeps making their "all sales are final" policy public and then honoring refund requests anyway. If I had to guess it's because they like deterring refund requests(because that's how pyramid scams breakdown) without further violating FTC/consumer protection laws. I agree though, they're crooks. I've reached mine! If I have anything to do with it, nothing is leaving their facility without a UL or FCC tag attached to each unit, specific to each model including any changes. And that's only the beginning. Hey good luck with that PG. BFL's Chief Bridge Troll ever get back to you on the FCC submission discrepancies? Definitely don't hold your breath. |
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Thanks. I misplaced the term for that tactic somewhere in my brain. "Bait & Switch", "Bait & Switch", "Bait & Switch" Gotta remember that. I thought it was about fishing with sticks when I first seent it and I was like...dafuq?!?  |
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In that case, why would anyone ever hold a PT? Why wouldn't you ever just buy and instantly convert? What is the value burnside is adding*? Liquidity. Off exchange shares are difficult to buy and sell. Also, is there anyway you can calculate in advance what the returns / dividends would be? What percentage of the profits are paid in dividends? I'm trying to figure out where I could get information from to calculate my projected ROI, timeframes, etc. I ran APY numbers on ASICMiner yesterday. I believe I came up with 38%ish based on the current ask on btct.co at that moment. Their last couple dividends have been lower than normal because they've been re-investing. |
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