I'm sure that Bitcoin Cash has no future, this fork was created to manipulate the market, recently a very serious vulnerability was found in the Bitcoin Cash code. I never knew about the vulnerability. Please elaborate. |
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I cannot get this. Why are they splitting their efforts in different directions (I mean their new MCO Crypto Invest) when they should be focused on negotiations with Visa or whatever they do to issue cards[/size]. It doesn't look smart from my point of view. Is it just another way to gather more money from their clients who have already invested a lot in MCO tokens? They are accredited VISA partner so that part is covered but because CEO Kris Marszalek is running the show they are going in all different directions instead of focusing on the core product their whitepaper was published to promote. They have delayed this card for over a whole year and still there is no card. Just like Betking and its owner Dean Nolan this Monaco team does not allow audits or give accountability so how can someone chase them. I mean look at the millions they spent on buying the crypto.com domain. Useless, pathetic. Monaco CEO Kris Marszalek used to be CEO of a failed company called Ensogo. I do not trust Kris Marszalek or Monaco Card at all. |
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Bitcoin is the strongest coin and all these forks can not defeat him. It's just that people want easy money and create a buzz around the new Bitcoin coins.
Yes that is true to an extent. Anyway Bitcoin is king and reigns supreme of other coins  |
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🇬🇧Goood News!!
Pundi X (NPXS) will be listed on our exchange with ETH&TRY pairs.
Anything that helps Pundi X achieve the highs that it deserves will be a good thing |
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I agree with you. We have waited too long for cards now they should slowly start rolling out the cards to the general public.
They say they will send out in September but we have been hearing thid same nonsense from Monaco and its failed CEO Kris since the last year. |
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This will serve as a lesson to as many as with bad intentions, so many bitcoin enthusiasts say that Roger Ver is one of the main characters who will damage the crypto world because his greed and such misleading actions, I hope they will have success with this lawsuit as it will be a major breakthrough.
Why do you hope that the lawsuit will be successful when the group attempting the lawsuit failed to raise funds to pay for it and abandoned the whole thing? |
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Now another possible scam regarding Dean Nolan and Betking has come to light. In the whitepaper he clearly stated 50% of the Betking ICO funds (raised in September 2017) were to be used directly for bankroll, that means at least: 500 BTC
2250 ETH
425 LTCDoes anybody have any proof to show those claims made in the whitepaper were followed through with? Does anybody remember any games offering the 50 BTC Jackpot? Does anybody remember any games at all where those 50% bankroll figures can be associated over this near one year period the site has been active since the end of the ICO? Does anybody think adding plugin affiliate games into an average looking website constitutes "development" of the website where the whitepaper stated money from the ICO would be used on "development" but it was just that the site was already complete, there was no real need for "development". The official Betking thread was locked by Dean Nolan after people began questions about the way he is not accounting for where the money is, how it was spent and why the investors lost out while he became an overnight millionaire. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2150057.0So were 50% of the ICO funds (over $3.25 million at the time the ICO closed) used in the bankroll? People are saying it was a scam for Dean Nolan to become a millionaire overnight while duping the investors. My opinion does not rally matter in this but people are calling Dean Nolan and his Betking website scam and scammer. I suppose that will remain until he publishes audits but the allegation people make is he will not do it because it will show him to be a scammer. At the very least he could make those full accounts available to the investors if not to the open public but he has locked the Betking thread and refusing to answer simple questions so I guess that is why people say Dean Nolan is a scammer. |
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For the jackpot, I believe it is really hard to get those and can be won by anyone easily. I am not defending them too but to get that jackpot you must be really lucky, not to say you hit it once, but you should get the consecutive bets, so you need double lucky here to get that. Anyway for their bankroll, I think they shut it up and never give people saw about that, due to the security or it will conect to the ICO as well?
So that means people throw their money at Betking and other ICOs without accountability? Look at the mess that MobileGo and countless other ICOs and projects have become because they do not account for where the money has been spent. If Dean Nolan and Betking claimed more than 500 BTC, more than 2250 ETH and more than 425 LTC were to be used in the bankroll where is the evidence? There is not a single shread of evidence to support the claim made in his whitepaper. |
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Does anybody know what username Jack uses here in BitcoinTalk? I would like to see what he posted and when he posted to try to correlate the time line.
This is the BCT profile of Jack Kuveke, the same which started this thread and was last active on bitcointalk at the end of June. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=911338 Thank you, now I know it is the same "Jack". I am going to do some reading and then post back here. |
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You are right, even if he apologised it will not be enough because investors have lost virtually all their investment. This is not good and they have no plans to do anything else anyway. Do you know what happened with the collected crypto currencies worth over $ 10 million or how do you know that the crypto currencies are lost? Dean Nolan has never issued accounts or allowed an audit so there is no way of knowing what he has been up to. |
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Getting their terms on medium. https://steemit.com/steemit/@kirkwuk/betking-io-50-btc-jackpotand shows this one Terms: To win the BetKing Jackpot, the player must make two consecutive bets containing five 5’s in the roll results. The BetKing Jackpot is only applicable on Bitcoin bets. The prize will also be paid in Bitcoin. Only bets of 0.00001 or more are eligible for the Jackpot. Both bets must be made from the same user account Both bets must be made using the same server and client seeds. Only bets made after 2017-10-27 17:00 UTC are eligible for jackpotIf you win, please contact support@betking.io or our Bitcointalk, Facebook or Twitter pages with your account details and the IDs of the two bets. Your account will be credited within 72 hours. Anyone won in that promotion? Waiting up for someone to post up and we do have the same doubts OP. Many thanks for the post. I doubt it was won by anybody because it would have been the perfect advertising tool to promote Betking to the world and for Dean Nolan to boast about how "great" his website was. I have searched online but have been unable to find a winner or any information about the alleged 50 BTC jackpot. Even if you wanted to ask Dean Nolan about this you will not be able to do it because he has locked the Betking thread because several of us began questioning him about his business practices and asking for independent full audits because many believe he pocketed large sums of the ICO funds. Dean Nolan seems very scared so he is slowly adding new posts by unlocking then locking his Betking thread in order to start a new page so previous messages asking him for an audit and to prove his site is not a scam will be left on previous pages. This thread is about the 50 BTC Jackpot but what about the ICO? Dean Nolan said 50% of the ICO funds were to go to bankroll. Are we seriously to believe that over 500 BTC, over 2250 ETH and over 425 LTC has gone on to the bankroll? Just look at the Betking website, where are games giving away (or have given away) a cumulative 500 BTC, 2250 ETH and 425 LTC? Where are those winners listed? This is what happens when there in no transparency and no full financial independent audit. |
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Nothing about jack seem honest to me. If anything, i believe the previous post about him trying to distance his name from the farce cos he is based in the states and could be easily touched. For months, this guys weren't delivering on proposed deadline, but he was quick to jump on this board and insult anyone that brought up info related to that/ make claims that anyone could visit their office to see the great stride they were making in development. That asshole personally made claims that can't be quantified. All one needs to do is go thru his earlier post.
I know this cos i was an ico investor, and was a big proponent of the coin till i realized that we were been lead to BS central. So if i and several others who were outsiders were able to discover that the whole thing is a facade within a few months, i wonder what took him so long to come to that realization. My only guess is he probably had a huge argument with the admin, and decided to cover his ass cos he could be charged in the states.
Either way the asshole should also be held accountable cos he lead a lot of ppl astray and i hope someone save all of his comments on this thread cos there are lots of info on there that can be used against him in the future.
If what you say is true then Jack could be in big trouble if he resides in the USA as long as someone files a complaint against him or the MobileGO company. I do not know what his user his here so have no idea what he posted before but if what you say is true: "For months, this guys weren't delivering on proposed deadline, but he was quick to jump on this board and insult anyone that brought up info related to that/ make claims that anyone could visit their office to see the great stride they were making in development. That asshole personally made claims that can't be quantified.".. then he could be in big trouble. I mean that statement from you sort of contradicts the Reddit post Jack put out. Something does not add up here. Does anybody know what username Jack uses here in BitcoinTalk? I would like to see what he posted and when he posted to try to correlate the time line. |
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Very good post.
The question with these multi-sig walltes is also always the same. Who should be in Control if it?
I think Monero has a pretty good funding system. There is an Idea, funding will be required for this particular idea and only if it is done by someone the funds will be released and everything is very transparent.
But people investing in ICO's are blind like hell.
Its really like this:
Give someone in the Internet all your money and he maybe will do something for that. There is nowhere in the world a system that works like this. Give money before work done. And there is a good reason for that. But idiots in the web make it possible to change it. And ya, make them lose money.
And its okay.
Why? Because idiots are idiots and its natural selection that they lose their money and probably won't attract a woman to reproduce themselfes since they are poor.
Look this Thread here. At the beginning and in between there were a lot of voices who warned. And what these idiot shills did? And now they have nothing except some worthless tokens nobody wants.
You are right. ICOs are simply a Wild West of the crypto world. I think whitepapers are worthless and should not be listed anywhere:
if they do not provide full information about who will be legally accountable if the project fails because of a scam
if they do not allow independent audits
if they do not have multi-sig wallets where the ICO funds are to be kept
About multi-sig wallets it has to be someone who has been nominated or selected by a large consensus of investors or quite simply the largest single ICO investor or the one that has the best reputation. |
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Bitcore team what do you think about FPGAs or ASICs on your algo?
Are you going to fork or not?
Regards
They said they wanted BTX to be ASIC resistant so no chance they will divert from the whitepaper. |
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No, Roger Ver was not one of the founding members or in any way associated with the creation of Dash. However i do think many members of the Dash community (me included) would have welcomed Roger Ver into the Dash community, regardless of his reputation.
Also you have to remember when you have multiple forums (Reddit, Bitcointalk) that heavily censorships valid discussions about Bitcoin,
a reputation can easily be destroyed or damaged. Link : https://medium.com/@johnblocke/a-brief-and-incomplete-history-of-censorship-in-r-bitcoin-c85a290fe43Yes I suppose that is a valid point about censorship. Thank you for the link. About Ver I guess the jury is out whether he would have any relevance if he did not invest in Bitcoin when they were a dollar each. |
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Dean Nolan proudly states in the offical Betking Thread that he locked because he could not explain to investors why they lost virtually all of their investment while he became an overnight millionaire: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2150057.msg44009083#msg44009083
"New live dealer games are now available on betking.io
You can play Baccarat, Blackjack, Roulette as well as other games.
Also playing these games adds to your weekly leaderboard position"Is this what the ICO was for, to get plugin games from "Livetables Gaming Platform" instead developing them? How much will Betking make as an affiliate? How much of that will be added on to the "profit" which will be used in the Betking buy-back token scheme? $6.5 million dollars with over 1000 BTC, over 4500 ETH and over 850 LTC at the time of ICO ending and what did investors get? Plugin software? Absolutely disgraceful behaviour by Dean Nolan to set up the ICO structure to ensure investors could not sell more than 10% of their Betking tokens and only once every three months and there is no audit to show where the went. Dean Nolan said 50% of the ICO funds were to go to bankroll. Are we seriously to believe that over 500 BTC, over 2250 ETH and over 425 LTC has gone on to the bankroll? Just look at the website where are the 500 BTC, 2250 ETH and 425 LTC winners and where are the pending games to show the potential winnings to be 500 BTC, 2250 ETH and 425 LTC? Plenty of people say this Betking website and Dean Nolan have got scam and scammer written all over it. My personal views do not matter but it is what people are saying. |
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Does anybody have information about this?
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Problem was probably that Jack is a youngster and because of that easy to manipulate. I think he just ate whatever he got served by these Scammer-Sholom-Twins.
On the other side, who knows. Maybe he is on board of one of the biggest scams ever. And all this is just a big big show to wash some names clean. Sholoms are based somewhere where law and justice is a joke.
Jack isn't as well as some devs/members. Somehow interesting that the ones who are based in coutries where they can see a court because of that big scam now claim that they were never part of that and also be scammed. Why no internal mails have been published until today for example that would reveal all the truth?
So far it is just a perfect White-Wash-Story without any proof.
So Sholoms Scammers? Checked!
Project was a honeypot to steal your money? Checked!
The members of the GameCredits-Foundation on board of that scam? Let's see what they deliver within the next weeks/month.
Now that is a real possibility. Maybe the whole thing was a honeypot scam from the beginning or maybe the team got greedy when they realised the money they raised. Whatever the real story I think Jack comes across as honest. So far he is the only one published anything so I trust him more than the "owners" who have gone very quiet. |
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I dont think he is involved with Dash anymore. The article alludes to Roger Ver running DASH nodes. At some point yes. I think he sold them and moved on to BitcoinCash. I think he was just trying out our model, he did not really participathe or engaged with the Dash community (except for giving some interviews). Link : https://coinjournal.net/roger-ver-hold-majority-cryptocoin-wealth-bitcoin-cash/Great news. So at most if anything all he did was buy DASH, sell DASH and play around with some nodes. He was not one of the founder members or associated with the creation of DASH? That is good news for investors because anything Ver touches well it gets a bad reputation. |
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