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1461  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: why JSON RPC values not use INT64 instead of float string? on: March 30, 2011, 10:15:23 PM
Well, OK. You've got a point.
Still, no big deal.

After everybody starts using strings instead of floats (and they will, because floats are seen as VERY unprofessional in the industry), we may remove the old float mode completely.
However no hurry there, it may wait a few years.

If this change was made, any code using the API must first determine the API version, and then handle numbers in two different ways. No thanks.
1462  Other / Off-topic / Re: eMansipater and anarchism on: March 30, 2011, 10:00:22 PM
What exactly should be done to me for not paying taxes?
If you live in and benefit from a community which has agreed to use taxation to fund certain activities of shared pertinence such as law enforcement, infrastructure, emergency services, education, etc. yet you do not pay your taxes, you become a leech on everyone else.  To prevent leeching most such communities will have a known and defined process for ascertaining your guilt beyond a reasonable doubt, and taking the actions the community has deemed appropriate.  If you can find a "should" in there somewhere you're welcome to try.

I, and I think others, often have a hard time separating statements of fact from statements of opinion. Here, you are stating the fact that if you don't pay income tax, you will have your property seized or perhaps go to jail. I agree with this fact, however it gives me the impression that you believe this to be desirable behavior. Do you have no opinion, you prefer not to state it, or find it irrelevant?

It's difficult if not impossible to have a discussion on what should be when all you are willing to say is what is.
1463  Other / Off-topic / Re: eMansipater and anarchism on: March 30, 2011, 07:31:24 PM
What exactly should be done to me for not paying taxes?

You should have a party thrown for you and a medal awarded. Ticker tape parades, too, if someone wants to put one together and fund it. Smiley

Alternatively, we could fund the party by using the threat of violence to coerce money from people!
1464  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Hiding the command window on: March 30, 2011, 06:05:54 PM
You could use Kiv's poclbm GUI. I think it's really slick, and hides in the task bar when not in use.
1465  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Earn 34BTC or 20-21BTC for getting shops/organisations to accept Bitcoin on: March 30, 2011, 05:40:42 PM
Sent Hermel my first payout - 5 BTC for getting Wuala to accept Bitcoin. Nice job. Smiley

I think it would be a good idea for Persuaders to post the message sent to the entity that caused them to accept Bitcoin.
1466  Other / Off-topic / Re: eMansipater and anarchism on: March 30, 2011, 03:39:09 PM
These discussions always get to incredibly specific and pointless points.

In the real world it all comes to the point where if you don't have a very well educated, informed and politicaly active population sonner or later the people will get screwed by the power of the government, the corporations or both.

What's a pointless point?

In the real world, those who work in and depend on governments will use their influence to make their own situation better, generally to the detriment of the rest of the population.
1467  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: [RFC] Bitcoin Payment URI scheme on: March 30, 2011, 02:19:31 PM
I've got a working implementation of a bitcoin: URI handler in WalletBuddy. I assume that users won't be running Bitcoin all the time, so when such a link is clicked, it is sent to the payment queue. Any number of payments can be released from the payment queue to Bitcoin whenever Bitcoin is running.

I'm still working on some changes and fixes, but I hope to release an update with this functionality as well as some better documentation soon (hopefully this week).
1468  Economy / Economics / Re: A few theories for value deflation on: March 30, 2011, 01:57:45 PM
Gold is capital.

I think you're using two definitions of capital interchangeably, and it's confusing. Money (whether Bitcoins, USD, or gold) offered to business is financial capital, the goods the businesses purchase with that money, that will allow them to do business more efficiently, are capital goods.
1469  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is calling it a "wallet" the wrong thing? on: March 29, 2011, 08:33:06 PM
I liked key chain, but it is possibly too similar to block chain.

How about key ring? Too similar to the Gnome keyring? Bitkey ring?
1470  Other / Off-topic / Re: eMansipater and anarchism on: March 29, 2011, 05:33:38 PM
So is the social contract valid?

I like Molyneux's definition of the social contract.
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Geographical (country)

Unilateral (State-> citizen).

Implicit (Not signed/ formal)

It sounds like eMansipator does not favor the first or last aspects of the social contract, but perhaps the second.

Forgive me if I'm making assumptions about your world view, but I can't imagine it will be long before you abandon the idea of citizenship or the state altogether.

What is the state at its core? A monopoly on the use of force. The sole authorized provider of law and law enforcement services. Why not allow private entities to compete for those services as well?
1471  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Does WeUseCoins Deserves the Full Bounty? RETAKE on: March 29, 2011, 04:59:35 PM
I say yea, but I didn't contribute to the bounty.
1472  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: When the majority decides to change the rules on: March 25, 2011, 02:52:09 PM
I'll agree that bitcoin isn't perfect. One problem I could see with the changing value of the currency:

You buy a house for 1000btc
You make 10btc a month.

2 years later..

You still owe 850btc on the house
You make 9btc a month because the value has risen relative to the USD.


You can still afford to make your payments but if it continues to rise you're going to be in trouble.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong but isn't this a big part of what happened to farmers in the dustbowl?
I don't mean they hand loans in BTC obviously  Grin but their value of the money went up and food was easier to buy but they still owed the same in loans.
I think the answer is to not accept loans of bitcoins with interest.

That doesn't solve the problem, he never mentioned interest in the original question. It could be that a negative interest rate is necessary in the face of price deflation. This isn't a problem since the issuer of the loan is still making money on the appreciation of the currency.
1473  Economy / Economics / Re: Labor costs and prices in an economy using bitcoin exclusively on: March 24, 2011, 03:58:25 AM
If you do not control it you do not own it.

So do you use force to remove them from your home, or do you allow them to continue to interfere with your use of it?
1474  Economy / Economics / Re: Labor costs and prices in an economy using bitcoin exclusively on: March 24, 2011, 01:44:02 AM
Another question that popped in to my head earlier today.

Let's say you're sitting at home when an individual enters without permission. You ask them to leave, but they decline, explaining that they don't see that you have any special claim to this plot of land, on which sits this pile of wood and stone. So they rummage through your cupboards, eating your extra food, sleep in your spare bedroom, and deny you the ability to enjoy your home as you otherwise would. Do you at some point use force, or the threat thereof, to remove this person from your home?
1475  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: When the majority decides to change the rules on: March 22, 2011, 10:42:05 PM
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We live in an exponential monetary system so the money supply has to be exponential in nature and character to fit in with it. If bitcoin were to ever challenge let alone replace our existing money supply it would to change to an exponential currency.

Yes that's right bitcoins would have to become exponential. to be used in an exponential system (this is why we use credit, credit has the ability to be exponential). they would have to be able to grow with he system other wise you have two opposites. An exponential system of using resources as in today against a finite resource bitcoin or gold used as money.

Now this statement is different to reality as bitcoin as it is today is not exponential as there are only 21 million of them.

For any monetary system to work it has to have the ability to grow or shrink with the population and the resources being used by those people. it can not be finite. It has to match goods and services being used and keep value with those goods and services. If you were to change the rules on bit coins and allow it to grow and shrink as needed then yes it would work but, not in it's present form. Not unless you change the real world to fit the way bit coins work.


The question was imagine bitcoins became a major world currency.


You still don't know what you're talking about. The quantity of currency does not have to change with the quantity of available goods and services. The currency merely then allows you to purchase more goods and services.

Never mind that there are 21 million Bitcoins are divisible to eight decimal places, which means there are 21 quadrillion base Bitcoin units (Satoshis). If that is not enough, there could be localized Bitcoin block chains, or a separate block chain for larger or smaller amounts.

I reiterate, you don't know what you're talking about.
1476  Economy / Economics / Re: Labor costs and prices in an economy using bitcoin exclusively on: March 22, 2011, 10:21:02 PM
Yea, that confuses me also.

But if I assume your position correctly and you want a system without the natural system of Capitalism.

His position is that use of means of production (land, factories, etc) is ownership. If you build or purchase a machine or plot of land and are not using it, others may use it as they wish.
1477  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Confused? on: March 22, 2011, 10:07:12 PM
I plan on releasing a new version of WalletBuddy next week. It works quite well now, but initial set up is confusing, and there are some new features I have added/fleshed out that will be ready soon.
1478  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: Cooperative mining (130Ghash/s) on: March 22, 2011, 10:00:44 PM
Lately is's crap... submit you shares we'll take them    guess what u got   squat
slush decays too rapidly
the last couple days are ...
but he clames it all averages out
Well I'm NOT seeing that
I'm seeing less pay out per day..pay out per share

Ok, great. Feel free to take your computational power elsewhere. Constant complaints about a service while continuing to use that service make you seem like a troll.
1479  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: When the majority decides to change the rules on: March 22, 2011, 09:58:11 PM
I never said bitcoins grew exponentially, how can they there will only ever be 21 million of them.

Here's what you said in your first post:

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We live in an exponential monetary system so the money supply has to be exponential in nature and character to fit in with it. If bitcoin were to ever challenge let alone replace our existing money supply it would to change to an exponential currency.

If you know that exponential growth is unsustainable, why would you suggest that Bitcoin should grow exponentially?

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I do understand what exponential growth is (that's why I recommend looking at Dr Bartletts videos)!

I've watched them quite a few times and recommend them to everyone who seems remotely interested.

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Unless we have sudden depopulation then goods and services will need to grow to match a growing population and in doing so the money supply has to grow to match the goods and services that the people want.

No. Since Bitcoins are divisible to eight decimal places, there are 2,100,000,000,000,000 (2.1 quadrillion) base units of currency available. That's more than enough granularity, which is the only thing that matters. It doesn't matter if you only have 500 Satoshis (1 Satoshi = 1/10^8 Bitcoin) if a meal only costs 2 Satoshis.

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Imagine you have a product it cast you 100 bitcoins to make 6 months later you can only sell it for 75 bitcoins that's defaltion

Except that your 75 Bitcoins have the same purchasing power (you can buy the same amount of stuff) as the original 100 Bitcoins.
1480  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: When the majority decides to change the rules on: March 22, 2011, 09:13:12 PM
You apparently still don't understand exponential growth.

It is never sustainable in the long term.

Given this fact, why would you suggest Bitcoin grow exponentially?
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