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1461  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [ANN] Technobit HEX16A2 - 16 chip Avalon Gen2 board on: January 15, 2014, 08:57:18 AM

By the way i am trying new timing for nanos, because i think we are loosing some speed with latest 3.10
driver-hexmineru.c line 176
   if (long_sleep) {
         //applog(LOG_ERR, "Long sleep %s%d",hexmineru->drv->name, hexmineru->device_id);
         // 6+ Gh/s Wink
          //cgsleep_us_r (&ts_start, 600*1000);
            cgsleep_ms(200);
       } else {   
         if(!job_switch) {
         //   applog(LOG_ERR, "Short sleep %s%d",hexmineru->drv->name, hexmineru->device_id);
            //cgsleep_us_r (&ts_start, 5*1000);
              cgsleep_ms(5);
         } else {
            //applog(LOG_ERR, "No sleep %s%d",hexmineru->drv->name, hexmineru->device_id);
         }
      }
    }

Cpu goes bit high again but i think nanos work better

If you have time you can play with   cgsleep_ms(200); - increase reduces cpu load but may impact nanos performance - do not go above 800
No need to decrease it


Yesterday i try to change  (&ts_start, 600*1000) to (&ts_start, 800*1000). Got WU around 70/m for 2 nano  Grin
Honestly speaking WU is a mistery for me. No joks it was explained by kano..You can dig the info for it. but changing it to 800 will reduce CPU load for sure. However it can reduce nanos hashrate. In theory up to 1300 should be fine without impact on the hashrate but according to my observations it is not quite true. In general you have to pump same job to the chip (and getting response from it) and watch when it will ask for new one. I do not know exactly speaking of timing when chip is asking for new one. But what i know that as fast you pump it the chance to delay the time for the new job is lower. Unfortunately pumping each 5 ms as it was in first version generates a lot of IO and CPU load but insures that you will never leave chip workless Grin. We need to found good compromise and sweet spot how much IO/CPU load to suffer.
Got it?
PS: I am not bitfury chip expert and if someone can comment on it i am all years
1462  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [ANN] Technobit HEX16A2 - 16 chip Avalon Gen2 board on: January 15, 2014, 08:40:26 AM
Looks like DHL said my miners are coming tomorrow.  I am excite.  Grin
Nice,

Here is the hub i am using for nonstop operation of HEX boards + TpLink host

http://www.amazon.de/dp/B00602C91U/ref=pe_386171_38075861_TE_item - it is MTT hub and working great no issues or whatsoever

I am recommending highly this one and nothing else.

Happy mining:)


It doesn't need a powered hub right?

I got one hub that I still have lying around from my block erupter days.  Grin

I'm just worried I might not have enough molex power plugs. lol (Ordered some of Amazon. Might take a while)
Are you waiting for HEXA2 (Avalon 2) boards?
If yes according to marto post they will feed the hub with 5V. However if you gona use them with tp-link and you have it in hand i suggest to run lsusb when hub is connected and see if tplink supports that hub. It happen to me with some d-links that they work with PC but tp-link is not seeing them

Once again if you live in Germany and want nonstop operation just by the one I suggested. I can guarantee you you will not regret Wink
1463  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [ANN] Technobit HEX16A2 - 16 chip Avalon Gen2 board on: January 15, 2014, 07:36:39 AM
Looks like DHL said my miners are coming tomorrow.  I am excite.  Grin
Nice,

Here is the hub i am using for nonstop operation of HEX boards + TpLink host

http://www.amazon.de/dp/B00602C91U/ref=pe_386171_38075861_TE_item - it is MTT hub and working great no issues or whatsoever

I am recommending highly this one and nothing else.

Happy mining:)


I just open my stupid hub. I found that it used 2 x FE1.1s chip LOL
Did you ever checkout the chip in that 10 port hub loshia? one must be FE2.1. But what about other one?
Yes i did and i posted it couple of times already Smiley

root@HEX16A:~# lsusb
Bus 001 Device 002: ID 1a40:0201 Terminus Technology Inc. FE 2.1 7-port Hub
Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
Bus 001 Device 003: ID 1a40:0101 Terminus Technology Inc. 4-Port HUB



I have not open it and i am not sure if Terminus Technology Inc. 4-Port HUB is tt chip but i am using 10 ports without issues Smiley I have only two tp-links with 10 ports (Actually 9 HEX16B + power for the tplink + data) otherwise my Hex16A are not more than 7 (850W PSu) because of the power  Cry
I guess with 7 boards i am using only one (or maybe 0) port of 4 port chip
Actually tp-link can be hacked to get power from usb data port but i do not have time for this. When i need it (not lose USB port on my hub) i just strip usb power wire spike + crimp/ or solder + tape  and so on you now the story Grin
PS:

In the begging i used to cut USB data red wire to avoid feeding from the hub but as long as i am using single PSU ground i am not doing it anymore

PS:
By the way i am trying new timing for nanos, because i think we are loosing some speed with latest 3.10
driver-hexmineru.c line 176
   if (long_sleep) {
         //applog(LOG_ERR, "Long sleep %s%d",hexmineru->drv->name, hexmineru->device_id);
         // 6+ Gh/s Wink
          //cgsleep_us_r (&ts_start, 600*1000);
            cgsleep_ms(200);
       } else {   
         if(!job_switch) {
         //   applog(LOG_ERR, "Short sleep %s%d",hexmineru->drv->name, hexmineru->device_id);
            //cgsleep_us_r (&ts_start, 5*1000);
              cgsleep_ms(5);
         } else {
            //applog(LOG_ERR, "No sleep %s%d",hexmineru->drv->name, hexmineru->device_id);
         }
      }
    }

Cpu goes bit high again but i think nanos work better

If you have time you can play with   cgsleep_ms(200); - increase reduces cpu load but may impact nanos performance - do not go above 800
No need to decrease it

1464  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [ANN] Technobit HEX16A2 - 16 chip Avalon Gen2 board on: January 15, 2014, 06:40:17 AM
Looks like DHL said my miners are coming tomorrow.  I am excite.  Grin
Nice,

Here is the hub i am using for nonstop operation of HEX boards + TpLink host

http://www.amazon.de/dp/B00602C91U/ref=pe_386171_38075861_TE_item - it is MTT hub and working great no issues or whatsoever

I am recommending highly this one and nothing else.

Happy mining:)
1465  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [ANN] Technobit HEX16A2 - 16 chip Avalon Gen2 board on: January 14, 2014, 08:20:20 PM
Hey Guys,
I still cant gey my miners up and running. I have connected one miner now to the technobit tplink router and this is all that happens.
I have the feeling that i am making a noob mistake somewhere but i just can't figure it out.
Who can help?


Here are my settings:

There is no 12v power supply to the board. Double check it. Is molex connected and ok? Are you using some extension cable to molex?
1466  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [ANN] Technobit HEX16A2 - 16 chip Avalon Gen2 board on: January 14, 2014, 06:56:36 PM
After the 3 day in town delivery UPS finally get you Wink
May I can try helping

Dear Martin,

...
So i tried your boards with hexmine in win7, tried all the combinations got 42gh with one board, 77ghs with two, 91gh with three, 101gh with foor
it's little wired why its slowing down when you add another device, it's suppose to be additional.
...
Thanks


My first thought from reading that is that your boards are being starved of power as you connect more. Have you tried running each one singularly to make sure they perform okay. Then try them together on different power sources (if you have two or more PSU's available), so you've got PSU one to board one, and PSU two to board two etc, and let us know the results. What settings are you using in Hexminer, can you post a screenshot?

It's seems power issue but 2 of 500w psu connecting 4 boards only.


What is the make model of your power supply? It's probably got multiple low amp rails.

I use 350w Enermax PSUs they have 2 power rails and 4x molex on 3 seperate wires and only cost <£30/$40 they run 4x Hex16B no problem.

CIRCLE RAW POWER 500 WATT

Hard to find any info on this PSU I could only find this graphic in the Google cache as originals seem to be deleted from their web site.
If correct it may have only 28A x 12V = 336W on the 12v rail.
Quote
But their web site says it's dual 12v rails so maybe it's 335W/2 = 168W max on a single rail/wire.
That would explain why it's only powering 2x Hex16B.
Never mix the ground between psu's never.
Use one psu hub powers from it and as menu boards you can + tplink and forget

Any way, i have 10 boards to feed tomorrow and im going to buy : Antec HCG Series HCG-900W
I think it will be enough for all, with 4 x 12v rails and 8 morlex and i will use 2 other molex from the other PSU.

1chose a single rail psu with 60 amps at 12w rail something like 750-800 w
Watch the 12 w rail
Buy a tplink and if you can order the hub mentioned in my post from amazon.de if you are German
I can send you the link later for the hub if you want
I have 9 boards to 700 w psu with 20 days uptime + tplink when done right
I am changing the software two often Smiley Wink
Throw away 5v tpli k adapter + hub 5v adapter also
1467  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [ANN] Technobit HEX16A2 - 16 chip Avalon Gen2 board on: January 14, 2014, 06:50:16 PM
this is what i get right now

[Firmware Version] => 20140113
cgminer: 3_10_0_87f0213
Socket connect failed: Connection refused

http://www.bilder-upload.eu/upload/abe0a0-1389717975.jpg

not sure what is wrong, just connected all my boards to powered usb and tp-link

Ok it seems like its working now, just changed the worker, strange.
Nevertheless, as i mentioned before, one board only running with around 14GH/s, so it seems some chips are damaged
Code:
[STATS0] =>
(
   [STATS] => 0
   [ID] => HEXc0
   [Enabled] => Y
   [Status] => Alive
   [Elapsed] => 499
   [MHS 5s] => 13.83G
   [MHS av] => 14.45G
   [Hardware Errors] => 44
   [Hardware Errors%] => 2.5552
   [USB Read Errors] => 0
   [USB Write Errors] => 0
   [Idled for 60 sec] => 0
   [Reset Count] => 0
   [Last Share Time] => 1389718295
   [Chip Count] => 16
   [Frequency] => 1500
   [Core Voltage] => 1100
   [PIC Voltage Readings] => 1108
   [Chip1 Nonces] => 11
   [Chip1 Dupes] => 0
   [Chip2 Nonces] => 0
   [Chip2 Dupes] => 0
   [Chip3 Nonces] => 0
   [Chip3 Dupes] => 0
   [Chip4 Nonces] => 0
   [Chip4 Dupes] => 0
   [Chip5 Nonces] => 0
   [Chip5 Dupes] => 0
   [Chip6 Nonces] => 159
   [Chip6 Dupes] => 0
   [Chip7 Nonces] => 167
   [Chip7 Dupes] => 0
   [Chip8 Nonces] => 148
   [Chip8 Dupes] => 0
   [Chip9 Nonces] => 57
   [Chip9 Dupes] => 0
   [Chip10 Nonces] => 163
   [Chip10 Dupes] => 0
   [Chip11 Nonces] => 166
   [Chip11 Dupes] => 0
   [Chip12 Nonces] => 167
   [Chip12 Dupes] => 0
   [Chip13 Nonces] => 152
   [Chip13 Dupes] => 0
   [Chip14 Nonces] => 153
   [Chip14 Dupes] => 0
   [Chip15 Nonces] => 169
   [Chip15 Dupes] => 0
   [Chip16 Nonces] => 166
   [Chip16 Dupes] => 0

Does those nonces = 0 mean they are not working or damaged?
Maybe you can help Marto
Thanks!
Smells like dead chips to me
1468  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [ANN] Technobit HEX16A2 - 16 chip Avalon Gen2 board on: January 14, 2014, 06:38:41 PM
After the 3 day in town delivery UPS finally get you Wink
May I can try helping

Dear Martin,

...
So i tried your boards with hexmine in win7, tried all the combinations got 42gh with one board, 77ghs with two, 91gh with three, 101gh with foor
it's little wired why its slowing down when you add another device, it's suppose to be additional.
...
Thanks


My first thought from reading that is that your boards are being starved of power as you connect more. Have you tried running each one singularly to make sure they perform okay. Then try them together on different power sources (if you have two or more PSU's available), so you've got PSU one to board one, and PSU two to board two etc, and let us know the results. What settings are you using in Hexminer, can you post a screenshot?

It's seems power issue but 2 of 500w psu connecting 4 boards only.


What is the make model of your power supply? It's probably got multiple low amp rails.

I use 350w Enermax PSUs they have 2 power rails and 4x molex on 3 seperate wires and only cost <£30/$40 they run 4x Hex16B no problem.

CIRCLE RAW POWER 500 WATT

Hard to find any info on this PSU I could only find this graphic in the Google cache as originals seem to be deleted from their web site.
If correct it may have only 28A x 12V = 336W on the 12v rail.
Quote
But their web site says it's dual 12v rails so maybe it's 335W/2 = 168W max on a single rail/wire.
That would explain why it's only powering 2x Hex16B.
Never mix the ground between psu's never.
Use one psu hub powered fom it and as many boards as you can + tplink and forget. In your case yo can connect al four to the mentioned if yo spread the load each bit fury board eats 5amps max oc at 12v
1469  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [ANN] US/North American Bitfury sales NEW STOCK ***NOW SHIPPING*** on: January 14, 2014, 03:31:16 PM
and some are hobbyists, just wanting to be part of something big.....   why does everyone leave that out? 
The big part is the money spent that is all
1470  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [ANN] US/North American Bitfury sales NEW STOCK ***NOW SHIPPING*** on: January 14, 2014, 03:30:16 PM
I honestly have no idea what you're saying.  I'll just keep mining BTC and buying more gear.  And when I've had enough, I'll sell my ASICs for even more profit.  But thanks for trying!   Cool
Super,
Good luck!
Let us hope that you have no idea what i am talking about because my English is not native, not because you are refusing to understand what is all about.

Best

A bit of both, I guess.  Wink

Just curious... why do people like you feel the need to post this "you'll never ROI" nonsense in the Custom Hardware forum when there's a whole section devoted to Mining Speculation.
Because I want a fair price and the only way to get it is to stop paying the ridiculous amounts for the EOF hardware. Only way this to happen is to try to convince people like you. That is why I am posting occasionally here and there. Please do excuse me for that, but all this nonce is leading us to nowhere.


1471  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [ANN] Technobit HEX16A2 - 16 chip Avalon Gen2 board on: January 14, 2014, 03:19:46 PM
Hello Zich,

Can i ask you for help, i'm really lost. Huh
I just got my miners yesterday, and i'm suffering a lot to make them working.
Thanks
Bestalg
A word for the public? What issues do you heve exactly? Zich is very knowledgable person and is online most of the times but just in case Wink
1472  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [ANN] Technobit HEX16A2 - 16 chip Avalon Gen2 board on: January 14, 2014, 02:14:36 PM
Today, I am getting my second TP-Link MR3020 Router (obviously, I bricked the first one Roll Eyes ).

To prevent bricking the device again, what are the steps that have to be taken?

Code:

1. Connect router to PC and connect with IP 192.168.0.254
2. Flash router with openwrt+ cgminer from technobit website( 0.1.5 release)
3. connect tp-link router to my homenetwork router( IP range is 192.168.0.0 - 255)
4. Connect to tp-link via 192.168.0.99 and set a userpassword. Save and Apply.
5. Set all parameters in cgminer window which are necessary. Save and Apply
6. Connect Hex16a2 boards with powerd usb hub to tp-link and start cgminer.
Is this right?

The reason I am asking is, because I can not really explain why my last router bricked, that's the reason for the dumb question Grin

Thanks in advance!
2. Flash router with openwrt+ cgminer from technobit website( 0.1.5 release) - use *.factory.bin + wait - ping 192.168.0.254 -t when it stops to respond look at it to see it is rebooting

You can try fail http://wiki.openwrt.org/doc/howto/generic.failsafe

The big button tigers it it was wps if i remember correctly
 
if you reach point 4 it is less likley to brick it. The critical is 3 to 4



I don't know the filename yet form technobit, but why should I use factory image?
Already tried getting into failsafe mode over 2 days with my last router, no chance at all, so I wanna get this right now Smiley
Factory is used when flashing from vendor FW to openwrt. I think factory has bootloader inside also - it is much more bigger compared to sysupgrade one. I have not tested what will hapen if you use ssyupgrade from stock FW. Later on assuming you have openwrt already use sysupgrade image to upgrade to latest version. Always take a look into change log in case you are lasy like me go to web of cgminer and fill defaults for new boards if there are any (CoinCraft A1 is coming..), otherwise cgminer is not starting Wink
1473  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: TECHNOBIT's HEX16A in hand - first impressions / mining software on: January 14, 2014, 01:51:36 PM
Problem solved!

I edited cgminer.conf file - to include my miner-worker details - in the GUI and copied it (also in the GUI) from the directory cgminer-hex16a-3.6.1 to the directory cgminer-3.6.1

In the directory cgminer-3.6.1 i ran cgminer with: sudo ./cgminer -c ./cgminer.conf

Works like a charm, even with another Butterfly labs miner connected next to the Technobit one.

Thanks Souspeed! (I sent you a "virtual drink" through "the block chain", cheers!)

You just made me smile!

Glad to see it's working.
My first beer this Friday will be on you, Cheers!



Super,

Just an advise use latest cgminer 3.10.0 the patch is available on technobit site. You will do it like piece of cake. Apart of jokes 3.6.1 is buggy Smiley it is highly recommended to switch to latest
1474  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [ANN] Technobit HEX16A2 - 16 chip Avalon Gen2 board on: January 14, 2014, 01:40:49 PM
Today, I am getting my second TP-Link MR3020 Router (obviously, I bricked the first one Roll Eyes ).

To prevent bricking the device again, what are the steps that have to be taken?

Code:

1. Connect router to PC and connect with IP 192.168.0.254
2. Flash router with openwrt+ cgminer from technobit website( 0.1.5 release)
3. connect tp-link router to my homenetwork router( IP range is 192.168.0.0 - 255)
4. Connect to tp-link via 192.168.0.99 and set a userpassword. Save and Apply.
5. Set all parameters in cgminer window which are necessary. Save and Apply
6. Connect Hex16a2 boards with powerd usb hub to tp-link and start cgminer.
Is this right?

The reason I am asking is, because I can not really explain why my last router bricked, that's the reason for the dumb question Grin

Thanks in advance!
2. Flash router with openwrt+ cgminer from technobit website( 0.1.5 release) - use *.factory.bin + wait - ping 192.168.0.254 -t when it stops to respond look at it to see it is rebooting

You can try fail http://wiki.openwrt.org/doc/howto/generic.failsafe

The big button tigers it it was wps if i remember correctly
 
if you reach point 4 it is less likley to brick it. The critical is 3 to 4

1475  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [ANN] US/North American Bitfury sales NEW STOCK ***NOW SHIPPING*** on: January 14, 2014, 09:36:25 AM

Also, Antminers are not currently for sale from stock.  And wasn't the 2.65BTC price just an introductory offer from the new BitMain website and limited to only the first 30 units sold?

No, first 30 units were priced at 2.40.

At current price and BTC/USD ratio, a full rig will not break-even.

spiccioli


Why do people always insist on offering that same piece of "advice" over and over again?

If I had heeded that advice I wouldn't currently have 2THs of mining gear with another 4THs+ preordered mining gear.  All of this has been paid for (with the exception of the first 200GHs or so) from the BTC I mined.  And I still have approximately $20,000 worth of BTC left in my wallet.

And no, I wouldn't have even more if I had bought and held BTC instead.  I tried doing that and I failed miserably.  Like most people, I panicked at the first dip and lost a good chunk of my modest investment, lol.  "Buy and hold" isn't in my nature.  I'm a miner and proud!
Me too, but this is not changing current statement. My point of view is if i spent x BTC for minig gear i should be able to make x+y btc in near feature. In current situation it turns out that you will be making x-Y btc and Y will be about half of the X btc invested. Near feature means infinity! Are you getting the idea now?



I honestly have no idea what you're saying.  I'll just keep mining BTC and buying more gear.  And when I've had enough, I'll sell my ASICs for even more profit.  But thanks for trying!   Cool
Super,
Good luck!
Let us hope that you have no idea what i am talking about because my English is not native, not because you are refusing to understand what is all about.

Best
1476  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [ANN] US/North American Bitfury sales NEW STOCK ***NOW SHIPPING*** on: January 14, 2014, 09:05:36 AM

Also, Antminers are not currently for sale from stock.  And wasn't the 2.65BTC price just an introductory offer from the new BitMain website and limited to only the first 30 units sold?

No, first 30 units were priced at 2.40.

At current price and BTC/USD ratio, a full rig will not break-even.

spiccioli


Why do people always insist on offering that same piece of "advice" over and over again?

If I had heeded that advice I wouldn't currently have 2THs of mining gear with another 4THs+ preordered mining gear.  All of this has been paid for (with the exception of the first 200GHs or so) from the BTC I mined.  And I still have approximately $20,000 worth of BTC left in my wallet.

And no, I wouldn't have even more if I had bought and held BTC instead.  I tried doing that and I failed miserably.  Like most people, I panicked at the first dip and lost a good chunk of my modest investment, lol.  "Buy and hold" isn't in my nature.  I'm a miner and proud!
Me too, but this is not changing current statement. My point of view is if i spent x BTC for minig gear i should be able to make x+y btc in near feature. In current situation it turns out that you will be making x-Y btc and Y will be about half of the X btc invested. Near feature means infinity! Are you getting the idea now?

1477  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [ANN] Technobit HEX8A1 - 6/8 chip Coincraft A1 board on: January 14, 2014, 05:48:27 AM
buy specs Wink
We will know exact numbers soon. But i do not trust specs completely.
besides for the wall power draw we shall add at least 10% for dc/dc losses + 15-20% PSU loss
if turbo specs is correct it will be at least 1.3W at the wall i do expect about 1.8  Grin

15-20% PSU loss ? did you build it yourself ? :p

With a 80+ Gold you have < 11 % loss
With a 80+ Platinium you have < 9 % loss

the dc/dc seem high too
According to my math gold and platinum will never pay off so I am using whatever I can find at 90 % load where efficiency is low (same applies for gold and platinum probably below 90%). The psu is most effective up to 70% load.  15 % psu loss is realistic for me. I am sure most guy's here do the same.
About other losses I am not an expert but will will see. In my  observations most of the chips are way off specs when overclocked.
1478  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [ANN] Technobit HEX16A2 - 16 chip Avalon Gen2 board on: January 13, 2014, 08:55:06 PM
Hi Mudge,

Get you mh/s up to 1500 and your voltage up to 1.150v. mine with those settings is running at 21gh.

Anyone knows if its ok to go higher? I would like to get up to 24gh
Give the board some time at 1.1 1500 with tplink my is 23gh+. 24 is a bit high I think
1479  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [ANN] Technobit HEX16A2 - 16 chip Avalon Gen2 board on: January 13, 2014, 08:16:38 PM
Thank you, I found the section that describes how to patch cgminer.
For everybody else (and my own reference) here is the link again:

http://sven-goessling.de/14/12/2013/der-40ghs-hex16b-bitfury-asic-bitcoin-miner-auf-dem-raspberry-pi-14-12-13/


Another question arises:

I want to use them on my raspberryPI, so is there any possible way to connect them to a normal plug somehow?
Anybody done yet? My cgminer does not have a desktop-psu.

Thank you

Just info: currently available patch afe7710858e4ce28bb60f6ae6e167a18d687634f.patch is for cgminer3.8.5, will not working with cgminer3.10.0.
Soon it will + some nano optimisation

 Wink


Man, that was great. Really can't wait  Grin
Waiting is over
http://technobit.eu/index.php?id_product=53&controller=product&id_lang=1
1480  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [ANN] Technobit HEX16A2 - 16 chip Avalon Gen2 board on: January 13, 2014, 05:00:29 AM
I had a brief power outage and now in the API log I get this

 [Firmware Version] => 20131221
cgminer: 3_8_4_afe7710
Socket connect failed: Connection refused

CGminer is not runing any ideas?
No internet/active pools or board not detected use shah and check what is going on
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