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14721  Other / Meta / Re: Been locked out of primary account for over a week now on: October 29, 2014, 12:55:39 AM
You're supposed to sign the message with a bitcoin address, not a GPG key, though if you claimed ownership of the GPG key in a public post on your main account it should still work (I'm not sure if signatures count). Also, you need a link to the post from your main account with the address or GPG key in it; otherwise there's no way to verify the key is really yours.

For more information, see this thread (though I suspect you already have): https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=497545.0
Actually theymos will accept a PGP signed message as it is just as secure as a signed bitcoin message (plus not all users will retain the private keys to every address they post)
14722  Economy / Invites & Accounts / Re: Selling bitcointalk.org accounts on: October 28, 2014, 07:58:52 PM
So is it ok to sell accounts on here? I have an unused one from late 2011, is it worth anything?

No, its not. I mean, the moderators allow it, but I and a bunch of other people will forever see you as a dirty shitbag, and will never trust this account or any other account you were ever associated with. Because its the right thing to do.
This question was not actually asked by anyone.

Your answer is also incorrect. The sale of accounts is allowed as per forum rules. There are many legit reasons to engage in the sale of accounts that you clearly do not care about.
14723  Other / Meta / Re: my account was banned,how i can do now on: October 28, 2014, 04:57:05 AM
-snip-
 If you use any other account to post outside of meta then you will get banned for ban evading (if you are caught) - and will potentially get a worse ban.

-snip-

can you explain more about ban evading ?

So if my primary account got ban temporary,
I can't post using my second account ? or what ?
All I have really seen is a quote by theymos that says that he doesn't have a problem with people using multiple accounts as long as the purpose of the use of multiple accounts is not to evade a ban.

There seems to be precedent that people can post in meta while they are banned with their alternate accounts (they really should allow positing in meta if you are banned, along with the ability to PM administrators/mods so people will not need to create a 2nd account to discuss their ban).

I really do not have any additional information beyond the above as there does not appear to be any additional written rule.

I do not imagine that checking for and finding ban evaders is a high priority for the admins (although I may be wrong on this - I really don't know as none of my accounts have ever been banned to my knowledge - IMO they have not been banned period because I am knowledgable about the rules and follow the rules). If this is true then you probably would be able to get away with using a 2nd account as long as you are not caught, however the consequences for doing so will likely be more then the risk you are taking (I always advocate for following the rules).

My advice is that if any of your accounts are banned then you should not use any of your other accounts to post or PM, except in meta (to discuss your ban)
14724  Economy / Digital goods / Re: how can i buy stuff on amazon with discounted? on: October 28, 2014, 04:24:14 AM
You can use purse.io to use Bitcoin to buy things with Amazon - I believe they guarantee your order will get filled within 24 hours if you ask for a 10% discount.

Using this site is not without risks.
14725  Other / Meta / Re: my account was banned,how i can do now on: October 28, 2014, 04:17:08 AM
If the ban is temporary then you can still use the account to read posts but you will not be able to post or send a PM. Once the ban expires you can post again. If you use any other account to post outside of meta then you will get banned for ban evading (if you are caught) - and will potentially get a worse ban.

If the ban is permanent then Sad

I can't say 100% the reason for the ban however from what I can tell bans are rarely overturned.
14726  Other / Meta / Re: Which type of posts should I report? on: October 28, 2014, 01:04:34 AM
Any post that (you think) breaks the rules. You should also report the OP of a thread that is in the incorrect category (for example a thread trying to borrow money listed in the Bitcoin discussion section.

All that reporting a post will do is have a moderator look at the post/thread and will act accordingly.
14727  Economy / Lending / Re: → Offering Loans ← (No-Collateral) | LOW INTEREST & EASY BTC LOANING on: October 27, 2014, 08:30:37 AM
pierre11 did not pay you back, the repayment address that you put on the thread has not received payment. You are claiming that he did pay you back, that you gave him the account back and are now asking to borrow money with that account as collateral.

This is very fishy to me

I don't know if you are blind or just retarded.

https://blockchain.info/tx/eeb5668aeb5d27b86118c497251ac1d35f21843e0f55d9f2b4c896e079acb707
My mistake, either way, I still do not trust you (also the payment was sent from what is almost certainly a mixer)

I'm 99% sure you can trust him in this case. As you can see, Pierre is back to posting in French, which I doubt Candy would do simply to make it appear as if the account had been returned. Pierre clearly is back in control of his account, and Candy would have no reason to return it if he had not been repaid.
He made two posts in french that are ~1 sentence (? - probably - I can't read french) each. I would hardly say that this is 100% (or 99%) not candy. I would say it is more like 40-60% not candy.
14728  Economy / Lending / Re: → Offering Loans ← (No-Collateral) | LOW INTEREST & EASY BTC LOANING on: October 26, 2014, 08:51:20 PM
pierre11 did not pay you back, the repayment address that you put on the thread has not received payment. You are claiming that he did pay you back, that you gave him the account back and are now asking to borrow money with that account as collateral.

This is very fishy to me

I don't know if you are blind or just retarded.

https://blockchain.info/tx/eeb5668aeb5d27b86118c497251ac1d35f21843e0f55d9f2b4c896e079acb707
My mistake, either way, I still do not trust you (also the payment was sent from what is almost certainly a mixer)
14729  Economy / Lending / Re: → Offering Loans ← (No-Collateral) | LOW INTEREST & EASY BTC LOANING on: October 26, 2014, 08:05:50 PM
pierre11 did not pay you back, the repayment address that you put on the thread has not received payment. You are claiming that he did pay you back, that you gave him the account back and are now asking to borrow money with that account as collateral.

This is very fishy to me
14730  Economy / Lending / Re: Quickseller Short Term Loans [collateral] on: October 26, 2014, 08:02:05 PM
In the futur I may look for another loan.

What is your offering for my account if I ask for a loan of 0.1BTC?
You are kidding right? You are a known alt of candystripes.
14731  Economy / Lending / Re: [REQ] 0.055 BTC loan for 4 days, return 0.07 BTC on: October 26, 2014, 07:37:47 PM
He is closing into paying back. I thought he defaulted but he didn't. Once he pays back the account will be in his possession again.
did you get the account banned for signature spamming? When you were posting with it earlier it was wearing a signature and was posting a lot of shit posts. I believe you posted to get it to have 250+ posts but now it only has 170 posts. What happened to all these posts?

If you are going to claim that the account is not banned then can you post from the account to prove it is not banned?
14732  Other / Meta / Factoid Spots on: October 25, 2014, 03:42:11 AM
Are the factoid spots in the ad info page ever going to be reformed/changed/updated?

If the links contained in the list of factoids were not paid for by someone then it might be a good idea to remove them, or at the very least periodically check to make sure the site/thread that the link points to is still 'open for business'/the offer is still valid.

One example is the
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Zero-risk guaranteed Loan. An "incredible" :D 1.5% a month
factoid. It points to this thread which was created in September 2012, is locked and the OP has not logged in for months. The thread mentions that the thread is locked and to PM him to take him up on his offer, however the fact that he has not logged in since June 2014 would lead me to believe that he is no longer borrowing money via this offer.

Just a suggestion Smiley

EDIT: With the exception of the two below factoids (I have also not checked any of the other links) they all appear to be accurate.

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I HATE TABLES I HATE TABLES I HA(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ TABLES I HATE TABLES I HATE TABLES
Code:
 ;D
They are both Huh
14733  Economy / Services / Re: Personal message campaign! 0.002 BTC for full member+ a week! 0/10 spots left! on: October 25, 2014, 03:30:35 AM
1. Do you accept escrow? If you escrow funds then people will join right away.

2. The title of your thread says that 0/10 spots are left however only 3 people have posted in this thread. Huh
14734  Economy / Services / Re: [PrimeDice] (Staff Only) Earn Bitcoins Simply By Posting on: October 24, 2014, 07:05:45 PM
Why only Hero members or higher ?if you had been   Sr. member I think (100%) that you had written :

Code:
Take Sr. members or higher.
You can get a Sr.member account for 0.2 BTC...
you can also buy hero accounts. If you buy an account you have an incentive to not spam because if you do then you will have waisted a lot of money for an account that now is not generating any income.

I think most of the spam is from account farmers who are just trying to rank up their accounts so they can later sell them.

This also goes to my prior point. If he only opens it to hero members and higher then the value of your hero will increase.
14735  Other / Meta / Re: Major Flaw in Security on: October 24, 2014, 04:53:14 PM
Wouldn't mind your reply to the above posts, Theymos.
did you not see the huge fiscao with bayuo/zedicus in meta a few months ago? If you are taking possession of an account you need to get a signed message from a btc address on an unedited post that is "old". This especially applies to taking accounts as collateral for a loan as the process to lend is much quicker then to buy an account.

The only exception to this is if you are lending to someone who farms accounts but the reason you would lend to an account farmer is Huh (This really only applies if you are buying accounts and have bought from them before)
14736  Economy / Services / Re: [PrimeDice] (Staff Only) Earn Bitcoins Simply By Posting on: October 24, 2014, 05:11:38 AM
Your suggestion is selfish as it would only apply to ~700 people, most of which do not participate in signature campaigns. You are clearly trying to get a larger share of stunna's advertising budget. Plus only allowing Heros would not give pd the exposure they want/need/are willing to pay for.

At one point almost every thread had several pd signatures (granted a lot of this was spam) and it gave them a lot of exposure to potential gamblers.
No, from the looks of it, I'd say no. Let me quote myself again.
The best thing would be a fixed rate if you were to avoid spamming.
In no way does this earn me more of the advertising budget. Why is everyone focusing on the payout? The issue was always SPAM.
It's a well known thing that most spammers were members of lower ranks. The higher the rank, the less spammers there are.
Depending on how far people go back here, (which is not far looking at their rank) in the past people were known to make 2-3k posts in a month. And no, they were not Hero Members (possibly not Seniors either).  Roll Eyes
The reason I say you are being selfish is because you are asking for a rule that will allow a very limited number of potential participants. If there are a small number of potential participants then Stunna will need to offer a much higher rate in order to get a lot of people to join his campaign.

A fixed rate deal would not do anything to stop spamming. If the campaign were to payout .1 for 50 posts then people would try to quickly spam their way to 50 posts on one account, then use a 2nd account to spam their way to 50 posts, and continue this process until they either run out of accounts or the payment period is up. This means that if an account gets banned for spamming on a fixed rate deal, they still potentially can use other accounts to spam (assuming they do not mind risking getting caught ban evading), where as if the campaign operates on a pay per post structure then a user will have less of an incentive to have multiple accounts and if their "spam" account gets banned then they can no longer spam.
14737  Economy / Services / Re: [PrimeDice] (Staff Only) Earn Bitcoins Simply By Posting on: October 23, 2014, 03:15:58 PM
You need to imply strict participation rules i.e. no members under Hero rank at least. Then you should check each individual once they applied.

Lol. If I'm not mistaken I seem to recall you saying the exact same thing before but about Seniors, but now you've changed it to - surprise surprise - Heroes because you are one. If they were only to include Hero Members then they would hardly have any participants.
Obviously I grow over time what does that have to do with anything.
The only reason that I did not say Legendary member/staff status as there are only a limited number of those. PD is too old and too good for seniors to be allowed in it.
Keep in mind that Stunna did not listen to me in time, nor did other campaign owners. What was the result? A ton of spam. So I was right.

Most of the suggestions yes do seem over complicated. I rather like the original idea with the addition of what I suggested.
Here's an example:
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As for payment structure I might suggest, say a flat rate of .05 for the first 50 posts, then an additional .02375 for at least 75 posts total, then an additional .045 for at least 125 posts total, then an additional .0008 for each post above 125 posts. This would give users a disincentive to spam as they get a less amount on a per post basis after each threshold is met.
It seems to me like people are trying to act smart, rather than suggesting something that actually makes any sense for the campaign.

I am smart but thank you for noticing.

Your suggestion is selfish as it would only apply to ~700 people, most of which do not participate in signature campaigns. You are clearly trying to get a larger share of stunna's advertising budget. Plus only allowing Heros would not give pd the exposure they want/need/are willing to pay for.

At one point almost every thread had several pd signatures (granted a lot of this was spam) and it gave them a lot of exposure to potential gamblers.
14738  Economy / Services / Re: [PrimeDice] (Staff Only) Earn Bitcoins Simply By Posting on: October 23, 2014, 05:38:48 AM
I've been thinking of going with unlimited number of posts allowed per user on a pay per post basis. Essentially there will be no limit to how much you can earn. HOWEVER, we will have very strict rules regarding spamming. Hilariousandco would be monitoring all participants very closely and we'd have extremely clear guidelines on what is considered a constructive post. Basically we want to not restrict people but at the same time 100% ensure we aren't having a negative effect on the quality of content posted within this forum.

With this being said, what would a fair pay per post be?

I've noticed competition for pay per post has dropped a lot. There really isn't any campaign willing to pay users out large amounts of BTC. Would people be happy with ~0.0006/post for Sr/Hero? This is lower than where we last left off, but with no limits it'll most likely still be more profitable.

Thoughts?

Keep in mind this is just me thinking aloud and nothing is confirmed what so ever. We're still most likely going with the fixed rates.



It would be interesting since it would be a testing ground to see how much bloat versus productive posts there are
Some months are a lot more interesting than others in Bitcoin and those are the ones where a lot of stuff tends to go down
^_^
The Canadian Regulators were what I thought was interesting this month myself and mintpal...

As for The rate of Pay Per Post

At 200 that is 0.12 BTC so its 4X the amount of posting to pass B/E (break even) than Greencoin which I am in which has a 50/mo rate but its a bit of an unusual one in that sense since it was upfront and is 0.02 above the baseline of pretty much everyone else which uses 0.1.

It would have been double the work of pocket dice with 25 posts CAP or 0.03/week making it effectively the same
Only you would need to only do 100 posts but the campaign just closed.

Where it would be attractive at is an average over 200 posts a month or 6.6 posts a day in the forum pretty reasonable not much of a wide range from there, other wise a standby at 50 posts a month for 0.1 would be more attractive.

I guess at around 2 X to 3X the work/ads of a fixed post campaign
The rates would begin to be more attractive at 4X it might be a bit too much work for the effort.

That puts the rate at around 0.0007-0.001/post. (Or I guess upper limit at old Senior Rate)

50 = 0.1 Fixed
@ 0.0006/Post
166 Posts = 0.1
3.32 X The Work of a fixed at 50 rate

50 = 0.1 Fixed
@ 0.0007/Post
142 Posts = 0.1
2.84 X The work of a fixed at 50 rate

50 = 0.1 Fixed
@0.0008/Post
100 = 0.08 So 125 posts would = 0.1 still leaving an upside that H@C maybe Micro etc can monitor while still being an effective checkpoint.
2.5 Times the Work to get a rate higher than the fixed rate. 

@ 0.0009/ Post that is 2.2 X the work
111= 0.1

@ 0.001
2X the work
100 = 0.1
50 = 0.1 Fixed


Looking at the range anywhere between 2X to 3X thats between 0.0007 per post to 0.001 makes it attractive in a relative scale
I think 2.5X seems like a good standby point myself but its just one metric so lets others discuss it further.

Offering two types of systems is also a possibility as moneypot runs two models allowing people a Choice instead of choosing one system or another.
The fixed is a lower rate that the pay per post maximum is but also requires less posting so a balance can be maintained.
That said its still the most competitive one for full members presently at pay per post.
To outmode that for Full Members a cap of 100 + 1 would win that ranking tier.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=767639.0
This is very good analysis. One thing that should be remembered however is that there is essentially zero competition for advertisers. There are not any pay per post signature campaigns for senior (or above) accounts period right now. The two campaigns that are open to additional members and have a post requirement (fortunejack and PRCDice.eu both effectively pay .001 per post if you post the exact number of posts required. They are both pretty good for active posters however they also force you to post in a very even manner as they payout once per week and do not allow posts to carry over (if you are one post short you are out of luck and kicked out of the campaign). There are several that pay effectively .002 per post (paying exactly 50 posts) however they are almost always full. If Stunna hadn't have been right about dicebitco.in scamming then things might be a little different as they would probably still be in the signature campaign market, but even the last time they opened up their campaign they were able to fill 100 spots within ~36 hours or so.

I agree that there should be very clear, specific rules as to what posts will be paid and which posts will not be paid (I don't see any reason why users can't post in the off topic section for example, as long as they understand they will not be paid for such posts). You should have multiple people (it would probably be too large a job for just one person) check users' post throughout the month and keep track of how many "payable" posts they have made (this would also eliminate the logistical issue of receiving 100's of PM's around the same time each month trying to get everyone paid) every day or every week, allowing for payments to be made automatically.

As for payment structure I might suggest, say a flat rate of .05 for the first 50 posts, then an additional .02375 for at least 75 posts total, then an additional .045 for at least 125 posts total, then an additional .0008 for each post above 125 posts. This would give users a disincentive to spam as they get a less amount on a per post basis after each threshold is met.

In the above example: posts
1 - 50 would be paid an effective rate of .001 per post
51 - 75 would be paid an effective rate of .00095 per post
76 - 125 would be paid an effective rate of .009 per post
126+ would be paid a rate of .008

If you wanted to pay higher levels more then you could add say 20% to hero members, and 25% to legendary/staff members.

I think this scheme (or a similar scheme) would allow you to remain competitive with other advertisers, as the rate for the first 50 posts is on par with the competition, while allowing/encouraging members to post more then only 50 posts, giving you a maximum level of exposure, while also not breaking your advertising budget.
14739  Economy / Auctions / Re: [BTC TALK ACCOUNT] Senior member account for sale on: October 22, 2014, 12:27:06 AM
Auctions for accounts do not work very well. First most people are not going to want to sell with their established account so they will create a shill account (like you did), this results in little to no consequences to you if you decide you do not want to sell (because the price is too low or otherwise).

The same is true for your potential buyers. They will not want to be seen buying an account with their established account so they will create a shill account to bid. You have the same issue of no consequences in the event they end up not paying/buying. It also creates the possibility of people thinking that you are creating shill accounts in order to drive up the price.

IMO you are much better off picking a fixed price and asking that price and opening a thread in the digital goods section.
14740  Economy / Invites & Accounts / Re: [WTS] $600+ Amazon Gift Account Balance on: October 21, 2014, 11:31:30 PM
I understand what your saying. I was hoping to sell it for a 10% discount. If I can't find anyone interested in a week or two who are interested at 10% maybe I will buy a high valued item and resale on ebay.
I am really not familiar with the ebay market for things that are radially available however I would think that items would generally sell for discounts on ebay as well. I imagine that discounts on ebay would be more then 10% (probably somewhat inline with the discounts that gift cards sell for on here).

You can potentially buy things on amazon via purse.io and get bitcoin. This would solve your timing issue however you generally have the same kind of discount as above.

I know that grue is/was buying amazon gift cards @ 85% of their value however I don't know if he would be willing to take on your balance. He also wants to see proof that the gift cards were purchased via legit means
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