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1481  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Any changes experienced within body - Gambling??? on: July 11, 2022, 09:04:11 PM
Personally, I get an urge of greed like every other human, which is natural. That's what makes us win more? or I lose if you are bad at it.
Humans are born with a survival mentality, we either win and exit, or we lose and exit. There is no in-between for sure.

If you are facing changes like "Addiction", you need to stop gambling and even get some help.
Not really good for your mental health.

Having some sense or urge of greed is pretty normal as a human being but that specific attitude is needed to be tamed and controlled because that could possibly put you into a risky situation where there's no turning back, you know, greed is always a factor and most of the result when you let greed control you is not good. Which is also why it is pretty much needed to have a goal in mind and know where to draw our lines if ever we decide to gamble.
1482  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Importance of Multiplayer Gaming in Gambling Industry on: July 11, 2022, 08:43:37 PM
Dota gambling would just be sports betting really, the game itself isnt directly a gambling game and most teams wont play for money at that average level they are placed at only the top teams are playing for money same for all the other esports.   Most esports require actual in person games to certify the teams remain legitimate, I hope that changes in future and then we can have more freedom for factors like that but until then its quite casual I think.

The good thing with esports is that it can be played for both fame, entertainment, and money.  The reason why there are many tournaments out there.  Esports players are being hired just like any ordinary sports.  Their camp will spend money to train these players in order to be competitive so that it can gather sponsors (source of management income) or win tournaments for fame to get more sponsors.  And bookmakers saw that it is a good way to earn money so they integrate online gambling into it.
Big companies are starting to support eGames and they are really looking for good players to play a specific game, this is like a business nowadays but still we can expect a more entertainment from them especially if you are a player too. This multiplayer gaming are fun and usually done on sports, but as of the moment there’s no option likes this on some casino games especially on slots game, maybe someone can innovate a settings like this but right now, we’re far from this kind of settings.
Its pure business, there’s a huge reward on most of the competition especially in DOTA2 that’s why they are taking this seriously and they are spending a lot of money to trained their players. Multiplayer can really boost the gambling industry but we need a clear regulations to follow because if they are just going to implement this, then most probably some gambler will be hesitant to try this, this will take a lot of work on casinos.

I can see that they are slowly making a move and building something so that in the few years to come, maybe they can already introduce some games that are multiplayer. As of now, I think there's no game like that exists. Introducing multiplayer games in the casino surely needs some time as it also needed a lot of work to make it happen, and that will bring the casino into a whole new level.
1483  Economy / Gambling / Re: Disgusting beitsler on: July 11, 2022, 08:05:55 PM
If your OP telling the truth and providing a screenshot or any valid document, then many will support but if he is lying then many users here will ignore him. To the op what other member here in the forum says that before you play in a particular site you must look /search first about the specific sites and also try to look the feed back from other gambler it will help you to decide about that sites .

His accuse is about a long losing streak for few different odds where it is possible to happen since every single bet is independence.
What should he show as a proof? His losing streak is not enough to prove that the casino is scam.
I myself wont support him even if he show the screenshot of his losing streak unless he can prove that the casino cheat him by modifying the bet result that makes him get the losing streak.
We can not predict the outcome if we put our bet on the gambling and as far as I know bitsler is a gambling site that doing great and good in terms of handling their customers but I don't know why Op created this thread since he don't have any serious case. All he experience is a loss streak that we all know it's possible if we gamble. Maybe he bet his all money and loss then the effect is complains.
Some gamblers are just bad losers, when we gamble we must understand that even if losing a great deal of times in a row may seem as if it is something that is incredibly difficult to actually happen this does not mean that it is impossible, and when it happens those gamblers get really mad about it and think there was something wrong with the casino, when not only this is not the case but they have no evidence about it, and as such their claims can be disregarded as baseless complains.

This is true, there are indeed these types of gamblers who are looking for someone to blame if they are losing big money consecutively, either they will play the opposite party or site of cheating and they are going to bark with some baseless complaints as you said. That's the typical attitude for these sore losers when they lose.
1484  Economy / Gambling / Re: How do you know how to trust online sportsbooks? on: July 11, 2022, 04:38:54 PM
Some reviews are biased, so it is really hard to rely on someone else's feedback.
But you can get the idea how the sportsbook is doing by checking this forum and their corresponding thread.
And if you do want to try, yes, use small funds first and check how it will go thru.
Some people are being screwed because they also violate the terms of the site.
Not all complaints are owed because of the site, but also the player himself.
That's why it's so hard to immediately trust someone else's review, especially if it's from a website outside this forum. But specifically for reviews from this forum, I trust it more because the people who provide these reviews have expertise in the field of gambling, so we can use that as reference material for choosing a sportsbook site.

I agree with what you suggest is to use small funds to see the progress of our bets. But still don't use large funds even though the sportsbook site looks comfortable because we have to take care of ourselves.

Reviews and advice on how to know or which one is trusted the most are available on the internet but most of these ones are also biased, some are just trying to get ahead of the race and some are not too reliable as well especially if you can read some lines that are too good to be true. Being in this forum is an advantage because we can read a lot of reliable comments here about the sportsbook that we are looking and also unfortunate as not too many people (gamblers) knew this thread has existed.
1485  Economy / Gambling / Re: Cloudbet | Bitcoin Casino & Sportsbook | The No.1 Bitcoin Gambling Site on: July 09, 2022, 01:45:44 PM
How are the withdrawal times at cloudbet these days?

Made first withdrawal via ETH to test the speed, its not instant as it says on the site that most withdrawals are instant, i can still see the cancel button.

Read some bad reviews but still gave it a go, hopefully will receive withdrawal soon and dont have to wait few days or some bs.

Anyone had recent experience with their withdrawal speed?

I used crypto only and amount is not too big, like 300$ only.

Thanks

I have gambled regularly in Cloudbet before and I have never encountered any problems in my withdrawals. We cannot be certain if those bad reviews came from reputable sources and we should not assume that Cloudbet is doing this without a valid reason for suspicions on user activity. There are other sportsbooks and gambling services in the cryptospace if you do not feel safe, however.

@gowinb0t1 did you first check with the support, if yes what did they say but if you have not approached them then do it now as they’re the best people to guide you. @bbc.reporter I believe that Cloudbet came back with a clean slate and they have been doing a good job since then, and lastly I’m sure that once their representatives see this comment they’ll step in to explain their side of the story.

Based on my experience, Cloudbet does not process withdrawals instantly like other sites.

In this review, it says withdrawals are processed within 24 hours.
https://www.covers.com/betting/reviews/cloudbet

Now, if it already exceed 24 hours, then that's the time you have to worry.
1486  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Canelo vs Golovkin 3 (September 17) on: July 09, 2022, 01:07:05 PM
There's no doubt that he can do that at his age, the question is can he find an open shot to hit Canelo Hard? GGG is old, might be slower a bit but he still got his power, so if Canelo would be too complacent and would underestimate GGG, then we might see a huge upset here. 
Canelo has an iron chin and he has been tested against Bivol who a knock out artist, but he can still survive even Bivol did punches him many times in every rounds. Bivol is more faster than GGG too, so I doubt GGG could knock out Canelo. In other sides, GGG is really hard to win via decision due to don't have reach advantages and biased jury favor on Canelo. If GGG is a boxer who have a fight style of take less damage or dodge like Haney or Mayweather, there's a chance GGG will win via decision.

It's good to see if GGG will turn into a boxer, but I doubt that he will do it against Canelo. And he will never win in the judges eye if he goes on defense like Haney or Floyd or being the technical boxer. Sure he can make Canelo miss, but still he has to score points in return. I think it will still be the same GGG, who will confront Canelo every round and will exchange punch after punch.

There's nothing to change in the style of GGG, his style is very effective, it's just that he loses in the last fight via a close decision by the judges. We were actually entertained in the last 2 fights, so if GGG will turn into Mayweather or Haney style, do you think people would appreciate him?
1487  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Mark Magsayo vs Rey Vargas WBC Featherweight Title (July 9) on: July 09, 2022, 10:15:12 AM
There is less than a day left before the fight and now the boxers' chances are leveled and the adds return to the original ones, let the strongest win, but I will still cross my fingers and wait for Mark Magsayo to win.


We have to unite here to support Magsayo on the biggest challenge in his boxing career.

He knows how big is at stake here, his current belt and his future depend on the outcome of the fight, so he has to win this.
Magsayo by KO, that is my prediction.

Same prediction here, there's no other way but a KO win is what would make Magsayo impress the boxing community. Lots of criticisms in the past, but he is here again to prove that he is a legit champion and he is going to successfully defend his belt.

Magsayo to win by KO @5.18, hoping my ticket will hit.

Of course, we gonna support our boy here, Mark by KO or by decision. As I have shown earlier, I have put a ML already for Mark and then tomorrow before the fight for sure I will bet again.

Here is some predictions, from SP (Shawn Porter)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qdiyW9KWI4

And it's also good to hear what we have been saying about that this could be the break out fight for Mark just like Pacquiao in 2003.



Shawn Porter said that if Gary was not fighting with one hand, he could have won the fight. Well, I think he has a point but can we review the 1st 3 rounds when he was still not injured, did Gary dominate the fight? Looks like Magsayo needs to gain respect from this boxer, he has to win via KO, that would impressed everyone.
1488  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How Profitable are Gambling Bots? on: July 09, 2022, 08:17:43 AM
Those "gambling bots" doesn't change your odds of winning. All they do is automate your bets and allow you to bet using your own custom strategy. They don't help you increase your profit or help you win more. In the long run, you will be making the same amount of profit/loss.

If someone is trying to sell you a gambling bot and says that it will help you make profit, he is very likely trying to scam you or maybe trying to steal your account.

We are too stupid if we believe that gambling bots will improve our chance of winning, that doesn't change anything, if you are a loser it will only make you lose more because with bots you can gamble more, so we have to be smart because in gambling, we can lose everything if we are fool.

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Don't buy or use those bots.
Some gambling sites have bots especially on dice game, but it actually favors them.
1489  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Inherited gambling on: July 09, 2022, 07:23:59 AM

This is a good comparison, we should understand that it is our choice to get addict into something and most of the time if the Children sees the addiction of their parents, they started to hate it. In the situation of my friend, his parents is a liquor addict and when his parent get drunk, they became insane and starts to hurt his siblings so this kind of trauma makes them hate beer, and that is also a proof that addiction can’t be inherit. We all have our own choices here especially if you are already on a legal age, always choose what’s best for you.
That is correct personal choice is a different thing and addiction is an other. But we can not say it at all that just because our parents were smokers - kids are smoking. My father was a chain smoker. But none of my sibling likes smoking at all. Why it has not been transferred through genes? because it is not in DNA

Very well said, but gambling and smoking are entirely different, there's no thrill in smoking while there's a huge thrill in gambling because you have a chance to win big money if you will try to risk money. Sometimes we are influenced if we see people inside the family that are winning in gambling, which will result in curiosity and we will also try to experiment on our own.
1490  Economy / Gambling / Re: Which crypto sportbooks are VPN friendly on: July 09, 2022, 06:11:22 AM
You can try Betja, it's a no KYC sportsbooks and doesn't have any rules of VPN, so it should be fine to everyone who often face the ISP or Curacao licenses banned their countries.

Betja have a decent reputation, even though I wouldn't say it's completely trustworthy. Because a no license casino/sportsbook can be more easier to become scam project rather than the licensed casino/sportsbook.
I seen this site. It seems good. and i found my some favourite betting game on there. Like Foodball, Tennis, Basketball. But I can use this site without any kind of vpn. It is not yet restricted to my location. So I can use it easily. But it would be better if it could be used without kyc.
They are probably a licensed casino and their regulators are tight with the implementation of KYC. Actually, if you are looking for a gambling site that you can play anonymously, you can try different gambling sites which has a good reputation in the forum. I was able to check Betja but was not able to continue making an account.
1491  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Telegram Group and new investment plattform on: July 09, 2022, 04:28:23 AM
You are on the way to becoming scammed, most of the telegram signals group is made up of scammers they have techniques that will lure newbies to become scams. So be careful about the kind of deals you have over telegram.
OP better play safe, or just leave when he got some profit as this kind of platform will not last, it's just like a pyramid scheme that will pay in the early stage but will scam in the end. Good thing OP brought it here, at least he can read our opinion and I'm sure most of us would agree that it's a scam.
1492  Economy / Gambling / Re: Sportbet.io lock my account. I cant play game or withdrawal on: July 09, 2022, 04:14:42 AM
You have your reason and they have their reason as well.

By your statement alone, it's hard to conclude who made a mistake here because we cannot access and see the evidence.
Personally, I found sportsbet.io as great gambling site, been using it for years already with no problem, and take note my account has no KYC.

Let's here what sportsbet would say about this allegation, maybe try to make a scam accusation.
1493  Economy / Gambling / Re: Stake making new accounts is too easy on: July 08, 2022, 01:42:22 PM
Stake is not capable of tracing users with different accounts because IP can easily be hidden using a VPN. Stake is not responsible for your addiction, you may "self exclude" yourself but you didn't mean it since you have violated yourself, so deal with the consequences of gambling addiction.
It is very hard for a casino or gambling platform to track users especially those who have multiple accounts. A user can decided to use VPN to login to accounts and play games without any difficult especially for decentralized crypto gambling platforms. Everything is becoming decentralized and many Casinos are not interested in watching your movement except sometimes is wrong somewhere.
Actually, crypto casinos started as fully decentralized but we are slowly transforming into centralized due to some regulations which require crypto casinos to make their customers comply with the KYC. Yes, there are still some casinos that allow us to gamble anonymously, we should stick with them and we have to understand how to manage the risk, not play the blame game.
1494  Economy / Gambling / Re: Stake making new accounts is too easy on: July 08, 2022, 12:35:23 PM
Stake is not capable of tracing users with different accounts because IP can easily be hidden using a VPN. Stake is not responsible for your addiction, you may "self exclude" yourself but you didn't mean it since you have violated yourself, so deal with the consequences of gambling addiction.
1495  Economy / Gambling / Re: Casino Game on: July 07, 2022, 01:50:39 PM

Gambling mostly is for the people who have a lot of fun to enjoy their lives because it gives entertainment to them at the same time is satisfaction but again gambling is not always a green day of winnings some of the players still continuously play because they want to urge back their losses even though they know the possible risk of it.
You like to have fun but you cannot afford to gamble, this is not for you.
Gambling is risky but the problem with some is that they think they can easily win money in gambling and despite they don't have enough income, they still try to gamble their money and be optimistic they will win, that way is not gonna help as it's a recipe for disaster, if we want to win, we should have the skills to do so.

It is good to sometimes take a break, but some people see gambling as a potential to them as being part of source of income or job only people who have no fear and guts taking the high risk reward.
If this is a source of income, then I will not take a break, you know why? because gambling could give you an unlimited income, and that would help me achieve my goal to retire early.
1496  Economy / Gambling / Re: Looking for perfect slot base casino on: July 07, 2022, 12:20:29 PM
You can check out stake.com is reliable and trusted currently we have some reputable users who running their Sig campaign meaning if there is no transparency it would have been rated by those users so i believe you should try out the site and experience more of their features. Secondly i would love you to also take a good look at these gambling site Fortunejack Duelbits Rollbit Roobet.
Op is looking for a casino that has no lots of games combine, I think the website you've mentioned have variety of games they are offering.
I don't like a casino that combines so many games that os way I prefer to play only slots-based casinos. Please make your recommendation.

I don't know also if there's a casino that purely focus on slots, I guess most casinos are competing so they are offering a wide variety of games, some casinos even have a sports betting as well just to compete.
1497  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What Type of Gambler Am I? on: July 06, 2022, 10:04:16 PM
Me too - thank God I am not addicted, I do it for fun. Once in a while.
Gambling has costed me and my friends a huge loose so we have stopped gambling and we are more into productive activities - trying to avoid alcohol and gambling both. It kills if done in excess.
We have those scenarios in our lives that we've witnessed people close to us that have lost a lot of money due to gambling. We know how it looks like and the feeling can also be there because we've seen them face to face on how they've reacted. If we're the casual type, yeah, thank goodness that we're like that and we don't have to exert that much effort in recovering all of our losses because it's known that we've done it for entertainment purpose. But, it cannot be removed that there goes the ones that are professional and gambling for living.

Yup, we're somehow lucky because we had the right mindset so that we won't get addicted. As for my situation, I just had enough of myself about these activities and had to experience some lessons that is why I've become a casual social gambler. Not a good situation but I'm glad that I managed to get out and now, I just gamble whenever I had a time but it's not my priority when I'm seeking entertainment because I found a new hobby so that I can have a safe distance when it comes to gambling.
1498  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Mark Magsayo vs Rey Vargas WBC Featherweight Title (July 9) on: July 06, 2022, 09:44:18 PM
Indeed, Magsayo really benefited from those wins he got in the previous years, he's the type of boxer that doesn't bark a lot and keeps his head low to have more grasp on the situation. Now that he's training with Freddie Roach, he has more advantages and has helped him to have more IQ in the ring against Vargas.

He already experienced a lot of fighting outside his country and so far he showed some promising fights to prepare for this upcoming fight that will gonna change his life if he gonna shows some best moves to win against Vargas easily. But, as everyone knows, Vargas seems not to be bothered with his opponent's records and that would make this fight interesting. Only a few days to go before we finally conclude the match between these two best fighters and finally we can see how good Magsayo is after training with Freddie Roach.

I reckon that their fight will be held at San Antonio, TX so it will be a hostile crowd for Magsayo as the majority of people who will watch the said fight will be Mexicans but I know Magsayo is already used to it as you've also said that Magsayo has already experienced a lot of fight outside his country, the Philippines.

I just bumped an article that Alamodome Stadium was also the same stadium where Manny Pacquiao made his huge breakthrough in his career against Barrera, so maybe this will also the mark where Magsayo will have his same breakthrough. It will be much more fun to watch if the both fighters will go for a toe-to-toe fight.
1499  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can You See Or Tell If A Fight Or Event Is Fix ? on: July 06, 2022, 09:20:43 PM

That is somehow expected to happen because they also have the right connection to make the rumor sounds nonsense to believe or else they will pay huge load of cash to those individuals who are going to expose them. But if those two scenarios stated won't suffice to stop that certain individual to expose them then I think they are also prepared to get in a messy way. We know that there's actually a business like that, so I expect that their circle is full of powerful people to make the job easy.
Propaganda and rumors play a vital role in the everything. Some businesses face serious downfalls after the propaganda.
I have seen many brands being badly affected due to rumors and propaganda. But these tricks and techniques does not last for long.

How can you say that these techniques and tricks won't last for long? The organization will remain powerful because of rigging happened and they can always escape the speculations/rumors because they have the right connection and will make the cheating look clean and the people/protester won't have an evidence against them.
1500  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Reasons why people avoid KYC in gambling casino ? on: July 06, 2022, 09:00:36 PM
Some users are not comfortable with sharing personal documents on illegal gambling websites without a proper license. Getting license from Curacao is easy for average businessman and gambling platforms can use this info for their own advantage. I personally don't want to see my documents on the sale lists of dark websites. Other players use the crypto gambling platforms from restricted regions thanks to VPN but whenever website aka gambling site management catches them they will not agree to send personal documents for obvious reasons.
Even if it was a very huge company with plenty of trust gained.

People still tend to refuse to do the KYC for privacy and security reasons , you wont feel secure once your documents uploaded as things around internet are never safe , sensitive data like the dox are the most wanted one for those privacy stealers, people will never want to do the kyc despite the purpose are for security reasons ... it gave us insecurity instead.
Yeah, nothing online is safe especially if it is related to crypto and finance. That is the reason why gamblers refuse to send personal documents to verify accounts, it is understandable considering how shady things may happen if the site got hacked. The purpose of KYC verification is simple: Gambling platforms wanna know who are you and whether you break T&C or not. If the user is from restricted areas and using the website illegally, this information can put the platform license under question in the long run.

Yes, that is the purpose of KYC but that is just for the platform but that same purpose will be a disadvantage of the client's side like us, because we as the gambler will be at risk as our private details are given to the platform just to pass that KYC. We're just hoping that the casino we've trusted will not be hacked because that same information we had given to them will be put for sale in the black market.
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