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14921  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Why volume of altcoins just dropped drastically ? on: April 06, 2015, 01:12:22 PM
There is a significant volume decrease at most of the altcoins. Except some coins , nearly all altcoins have very low volume (@cryptsy especially). What is your opinion about this? Why altcoins' volume dropped?

I have some conspiracy theories , but I like most the possibility of all whales went to holiday Smiley

Because...  No moon.  haha
14922  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The technology behind Bitcoin is not important on: April 06, 2015, 01:05:10 PM

What if someone asks you, "How is it possible that bitcoin (the currency) has no central issuer?". Would you be able to answer that without doing a little bit of research?


I wonder how many people out there have gotten as far as wondering where money comes from and who's running it. I would've thought it's just 'there' for many of them.

Not many. But it's good to be able to answer and explain if someone asks and shows interest.  

... And a little research on your part won't hurt anyway.
14923  Economy / Speculation / Re: Buttercoin shutting down due to "low interest in Bitcoin among investors" on: April 06, 2015, 01:00:23 PM
Bottom line and aside from that name...  this will make bitcoin look bad once again.  And all the haters will have a field day. 
14924  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Has anyone lived off of just trading altcoins? on: April 06, 2015, 12:29:23 PM
If you start with good amount you can easily make $100-300/day from daytrading and there is no need to work for someone else.

Not by hoarding VIA, I assume.  Grin
14925  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Marketplace Buttercoin Folds Despite $1.3 Million Investment on: April 06, 2015, 12:25:49 PM
How the fuck can you not run a company beyond four months with $1.3 million.

Seriously, what is it with these people.

14926  Economy / Speculation / Re: Buttercoin shutting down due to "low interest in Bitcoin among investors" on: April 06, 2015, 12:17:03 PM
Excitement among tech startup people is a lot higher than the regular people out there who might use their products. I think they're overestimating how many crypto users there are right now. Netagio was another that closed due to lack of interest from actual customers.

Exchanges must be a bitch to run and make money from. Only a small hard core would use it multiple times a week. The rest might make one trade on occasion and that's only a fraction of a per cent for the owners. You gotta spend vast amounts on security and pleasing The Man let alone gain the trust of your customers.

It would be a worry if an established exchange shut down for lack of interest. This is another example of VC money going up in smoke without having gained traction.

 

BTC exchanges have high volume of BTC exchanging hands but BTC market places do not.  It shows that BTC is being used predominantly for speculation/trading...  And of course hoarding.  

I cannot see how the BTC economy can thrive at this point if the people use the currency to mostly hoard or speculate.  Which of course we all are guilty of.
14927  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Interest... again on: April 06, 2015, 11:58:18 AM
Maybe in the next few years these exchange will drop and a few new "decentralized" exchange will be created (only to trade btc <>altcoin). The problem with decentralized exchange (FIAT side) is that the fiat money are too big problematic due the chargeback possibility, the stolen of bank, credit card etc....

Decentralized exchanges can be even more risky. Look at what happened to Silk Road 2.0, which was a decentralized market place. Hackers stole the credentials of sellers with good reputation, and then used these accounts to scam ordinary users.

Was Silkroad 2.0 decentralized?
14928  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The technology behind Bitcoin is not important on: April 06, 2015, 11:55:33 AM
Read and reread Mastering Bitcoin by Andreas Antonopoulos.  It's a good reference material for explaining Bitcoin.

No way! If you've got to read a book to be able to use BTC, BTC will fail. Did you read a book to use fiat money? You didn't and that's why fiat money has been so successful for centuries. BTC needs to reach that stage.


Huh?  Using BTC is easy.  Just copy/paste and click a few buttons. No book reading needed there.

But actually explaining how it works...  That's another story.

What if someone asks you, "How is it possible that bitcoin (the currency) has no central issuer?". Would you be able to answer that without doing a little bit of research?
14929  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Bitcoin Marketplace Buttercoin Folds Despite $1.3 Million Investment on: April 06, 2015, 11:49:21 AM
Another one bites the dust.

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US bitcoin marketplace Buttercoin is shutting its doors, despite launching just four months ago with at least $1.3m in investor backing.

In a farewell post to customers today, the Buttercoin team announced the service will go offline this Friday (April 10th) at 11pm PST.

Stressing that it was "100% secure and solvent", the Palo Alto-based platform blamed a lack of VC interest for its closure, stating:

"With the dip in bitcoin interest among Silicon Valley investors, we weren't able to generate enough venture capital interest to continue funding Buttercoin."

Buttercoin's nine-person team had raised at least $1.3m from investors including Reddit co-founder Alexis Ohanian, Y Combinator, Centralway Ventures, Google Ventures and Wedbush Securities – though its exact funding total is unclear.

http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-marketplace-buttercoin-folds-despite-1-3-million-investment/
14930  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Interest... again on: April 06, 2015, 11:44:37 AM
The interest in Bitcoin is stagnant from exactly one year!
Just do a google trend research...
What would you think it is needend to comeback interest on Bitcoin???

Obviously an increase in the value but what else?



A donation/charity drive from the BTC community together with the Doge community.

As I said before, it's time for BTC to accept other cryptos and be more community oriented.  Doge has a good community.  Why not someone influential here start something with someone influential from the Doge community?

One idea is giving the core BTC devs some support.  It doesn't have to be a big amount.  Send them pizza, beer, or whatever...  A months supply of food and redbull.

And if it's a success, then just build from there.
14931  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Satoshi on: April 06, 2015, 11:23:19 AM
What if he really was Hal Finney?
14932  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What if Pacquiao boxing gloves have Bitcoin Logo? on: April 06, 2015, 11:22:20 AM
I'd still go for a big BTC sign painted in white at Mayweather's back during the fight.
14933  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Was Cody Wilson right? on: April 06, 2015, 11:19:18 AM

Thanks.

If all that is true, I say, let it die. They did (or planned to do) some good things for Bitcoin, but overall it seems like a bunch of guys trying to boost their personal careers and pay themselves nice salaries despite poor revenue streams. If you can't properly manage - gtfo.

So the only question is how to go around with funding the core devs. This could work for now:

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Moving forward:

 - A special trust fund is being created and I will donate several 100k to pre-pay Gavin’s, Wladimirs and some other core devs wage for the next year (if they choose to accept). The control of this trust fund will be handed over to the core devs, who can decide who can join it. Alternatively, we can give voting power to everyone who puts money in it (pro-rata). I will also organize crowdfunds and help make this fund public. At no point do I want to have any control whatsoever.

Props to Olivier Janssens for his post.

Thought of the day:

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The lesson for all of us in Bitcoin is to never put any trust in a centralized org again that wanted to represent Bitcoin or the Core Development of Bitcoin.
https://bitcoinfoundation.org/forum/index.php?/topic/1284-the-truth-about-the-bitcoin-foundation/


ps Cody Wilson was wrong, there was no need to disband TBF, looks like it'll collapse on its own.





Haha.. In before "Bitcoin has collapsed" in the news.
14934  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Was Cody Wilson right? on: April 06, 2015, 11:14:17 AM
Now with this latest exposé about the Bitcoin Foundation in the news. ...

Must have missed something. What expose? Which news? Link?

i guess this:

https://twitter.com/jgarzik/status/584326303567912962



Lol.  I have lost respect for J.Garzik when he attacked NXT on twitter.  It's not that I'm defending NXT,  and I don't even care if they were true or not.  But the way he did it was low and disrespectful.
14935  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Was Cody Wilson right? on: April 06, 2015, 08:42:04 AM
Now with this latest exposé about the Bitcoin Foundation in the news. ...

Must have missed something. What expose? Which news? Link?

https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/board-member-olivier-janssens-leaks-damning-facts-bitcoin-foundation/

https://bitcoinfoundation.org/forum/index.php?/topic/1284-the-truth-about-the-bitcoin-foundation/
14936  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Was Cody Wilson right? on: April 06, 2015, 06:18:00 AM
This shit has been brewing since 2014.

http://pando.com/2014/03/27/leaderless-bitcoin-foundation-plagued-by-allegations-of-self-dealing-and-embezzlement/

http://trilema.com/2014/the-sins-of-the-group-of-posers-behind-the-so-called-bitcoin-foundation/
14937  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Was Cody Wilson right? on: April 06, 2015, 05:58:44 AM
Now with this latest exposé about the Bitcoin Foundation in the news.  Let me ask...  Was Cody Wilson having the right idea that the foundation should be disbanded?

I am aware that he's an extremist and all that, and that some would not have agreed about his proposal to disband the Bitcoin Foundation months ago.  So now that the cat is out of the bag...  Would you agree to it now?

EDIT:  For the people who are not aware about Cody Wilson's plan/proposal, please read this...

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The Bitcoin Foundation should be Destroyed

My words should not be mistaken as part of some centralization controversy. I’m not complaining that the Foundation is corrupt, superfluous, or has undue development influence. I’m willing to be realistic and admit the original intentions of the organization’s founders (Make dough with regulatory cover, bonus points for veneer of public respectability). Like any capable postmodern shysters, they couldn’t just rip us off. It was better to color the whole affair with a farcical civic-mindedness. To run around with this annoyingly earnest mien.

We find their type outside the Foundation as well. I still recall Jaron Lukasiewicz spreading his perfectly bleached asshole for Ben Lawsky back in July, only the day after BitLicense dropped:

    “…the BitLicense is an important asset that will allow us to provide US banking and regulatory protection to our target customer group. I’m happy to see the New York DFS making tangible progress towards offering the first achievable regulatory bitcoin license in the country.”

The first, but certainly not the last!

I say attack the Foundation because it is the think tank of the bitcoin counter-revolution. Its record (hey guys, this time we focus on core dev, for reals) is and will continue to be the (re)production of the state-form in bitcoin thought. Yes, the State-form. That reef on which the revolutions of the past two centuries ship-wrecked. Unseen by the hapless steersmen who with their organization set sail in the name of technological libertarianism.

But bitcoin isn’t ideological! Some stripling yips, dimly aware the slogan is NATO-grade BZ.

What to make of them? The mises-thumping market liberals, the high finance back-benchers, these… startup people. Each in his turn discovers modern political economy’s happy accident, a working stateless currency, and each continues the promotion of the State to de jure universality. They next rally around this word. Oh, you remember it. Every stunted little nequient and pasty oddity shrieks it in choral unison. The signature term of our gigantic Stockholm syndrome... 


More here...  https://disband.it/218/arcanum-imperii/
14938  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Jesus whips the scammers and centralizers of bitcoin community! on: April 06, 2015, 05:52:34 AM
Bitcoin was supposed to be decentralized and Zero trust instrument! Jesus whips scammers and centralizers!



Ship the whip Jesus!
14939  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The technology behind Bitcoin is not important on: April 06, 2015, 12:30:54 AM
Read and reread Mastering Bitcoin by Andreas Antonopoulos.  It's a good reference material for explaining Bitcoin.
14940  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The technology behind Bitcoin is not important on: April 06, 2015, 12:27:51 AM
Met a guy a few days ago, he told me he heard about BTC but he didn't quite understand how it worked. I guess I could have tried to explain (though, I'm hardly qualified for doing this) but I chose not too. Why explaining? Do people need to understand BTC to use it? I don't think so.

This very day, millions of people have been using a microwave oven, but I bet only a handful actually knows how this appliance works. I've read an article telling that millions of Americans are using Viagra. Everybody knows what it does, but who knows how it works? Same thing for computers or cars, most people don't know how they work, and they just don't care.

From now on, I propose we stop trying explaining how BTC works to people discovering it. The nerds already know about it, but to the general public, technology is not important. It's what you can do with technology which matters.

I shall just say that BTC is a new electronic currency, independent from all governments, which you can transfer safely anywhere and anytime fast and cheap.

It's really important that we do (need to explain it).  How cool is having a currency without a central issuer... This is the first of its kind.  Most will not get it, but if they're interested then by all means, explain it to them.
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