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1501  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in-$200 FreeBTC⭐Win Lambo🔥0.2BTC DailyJackpot🏆$32,500 Wager Contest on: February 17, 2024, 07:56:34 PM
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The BTC price has looked so bullish in the last few days, and it seems that the $50k level can be easily broken soon. So I also think that the range of $50k to $55k, as well as the range of $55k to $60k, looks tempting to place a bet even though there is still quite a lot of time before the end of the month.

Now that we have arrived in the range $50k to $55k already, the only interesting (and realistic) region that's left is "$55,001 - $60,000"
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Remember when I made my post, the multiplier for the "$50,001 - $55,000" range was 15.10? Well, that's not the case anymore. I think I will get something extra due to the Time Weight Multiplier if we'll end up in that range, but it won't be anything even close to 15x.

Less than a week left for BTC/ETH price prediction and the ranges as well as the odds looks promising this time.
If we place our bets both on $50k - $55k and $55k - $60k, we will be able to take a good spot hoping BTC not to fall further from here.
I will still wait a few more days to take my range and then place my bets on the last day to stay on the safer side.

Well, best of luck to you to win, obviously here the price of bitcoin is in a very good range that you say, for me reaching $60k is still a little complicated but Wow it is possible and achievable, I am sure that according to What has been happening at this time , the effect of the approval of the bitcoin ETFs may happen, however things may look very Much in favor of the bullish, because obviously at the moment the people areWaiting for the move, not for the moment, but I think that it is a period of 1 month or less that is expected, that it could rise to a new very good price, it could be close to the last ATH which seems spectacular to me , I personally think that This year and 2025, bitcoin will have a great rebound, for me that is a fact, now if we agree to do other things like buying and buying and saving, I would say that it is only the most Recommended , for those who do the contest , I think that this range is the ideal, but we hope that in the world things are moving normally, that there are no more war drums with other countries, so that the normal course of bitcoin goes in its natural rise.

Some in the contest can find with the most exact precision and According to them I imagine that the winner is chosen, this casino has many good things, contest and many things to enjoy, I think this is one of the most prosperous casinos , since I entered the world of crypto freebitco.in was the first one that welcomed me and it was the only casino I knew, then it was stake.com and then all that progress that casinos were in 2017 more or less, but what most I like these Contests and they are made very specific, with many options to win for anyone, there are no limits here, the best thing about it is that it is very good, and they continue with their good ideas to Continue improving , big by freebitco.in.
1502  Economy / Gambling / Re: Duelbits.com | Casino & Sportsbook | VIP | Instant withdrawals!|ARGENTINA & AVFC on: February 17, 2024, 07:37:44 PM
This was posted on Duelbits Telegram and X accounts :
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Dear Duelbits Community,

In response to the recent posts, we wish to assure everyone that all Duelbits customer funds and accounts are safe and secure.

Our ETH hot wallet recently experienced a security breach, resulting in the unauthorized withdrawal of a small amount of our ETH reserve (~1700 ETH).  We have alerted law enforcement and are working hard to address the situation.

However, we want to reassure the Duelbits community that the security of user accounts has not been compromised and remains our highest priority.

Despite this unfortunate incident, all our services continue to operate smoothly and without interruption.

Funds are Safu 😉

It’s a very unfortunate incident for Duelbits facing such a loss, to me 1700 ETH is a very big sum and still a big loss for my favorite casino. The good thing is players are not touched and nobody is facing any losses or breaches towards their accounts or wallets.

However, these cases seems to be avoidable since we have witnessed many similar cases with different casinos and crypto services. Is there a problem with the wallets and withdrawal system or it’s the security system that has many breaches where hackers uses and can’t be avoidable in any case?

I’m glad to see that many users didn’t even notice this which means nothing really is effected but still the team cleared things quickly and are dealing with the hacker to recover those funds and in worse scenarios it’s just a small loss and a notice to secure things more not just for Duelbits but all other crypto casinos.

This level of transparency makes Duelbits more reputable than ever. As you already mention, players don’t notice this while Duelbits can just hide it to avoid panic to players yet they still decided to become transparent on the issue and assure everything is fine. Although that amount is huge but we all know that Duelbits usually provide larger than that amount on their giveaways which means they can easily recover it as long as there’s still a lot of players trusting the brand.

Honestly, we will never be informed about this issue if they didn’t make an announcement unlike what happened to Stake hack that was find out by 3rd party that’s why it’s spread like a wild fire on the social media.

Well this is something that we cannot easily deduce, as long as we are seeing these types of cases and it is good that they release it to the community so that they can see that when you are in a very transparent casino things are very accurate in showing how What happened, obviously there are vulnerabilities in the places, that some do them to steal, which is not the right thing to do, but even so this casino did not close its doors or anything like that, they just took and told the information and that's it, too The authorities were able to alert them and let's see what they come up with, if the authorities are everything they have promised, then they can make sure that they return that money, a challenge because it will be a sign that the authorities and the government will not do anything even if we have our data In the casinos, that's how it is, however I find what happened very sad, because obtaining money fraudulently will never be a good thing, in fact the people who do this are condemned.

But the act of having participated seems very good to me, because we as clients, as players who sometimes go and approach the site because we need to know these types of things to be able to do things well and know more about which casinos to always trust , this is something we should see, well with respect to sstake.com it is always like that, they can turn everything into a gunshot, but even so the casio was very emphatic, they closed for a few hours and then they continued working What happened is that stake.com is a much larger casino with many more players and they had to protect people's funds very well, that is something we must understand, however they said, they declared about the theft and they put us on alert, this is something that should not be denied, they also participated in it.

As these casinos and as there are many exchanges, we must know very well that we are in an environment where this can happen and nothing is certain.
1503  Economy / Gambling / Re: Roobet.com | Crypto’s Fastest Growing Casino 🦘 on: February 17, 2024, 07:18:19 PM
Is it currently better not to register there?
I am looking for a new bookie. The selection of bets looks good.
In my experience, Roobet is one of the best casino that I played in (sportsbook or casino games). Never had an issue playing on their site and the support is responsive if you have concern, so try it for yourself. But as others have said, there's a mandatory level 1 kyc, need to fill a basic details.

roobet is doing great with the marketing campaigns here in the forum, glad they keep it up after so many weeks.
Indeed. They became well known here because of their different marketing strategies (sig campaign, contests, games etc.) the reason why they became popular. Though they already lessen their promotions as well as their sig participants.

what are the games you're playing more often? Lucky or skill games?
do you find some strong lucky-based game that also have a component of skill?

yes, I can see that they keep their presence strong here on bitcointalk, I just question myself how important is it for them I mean, if it's really effective for their marketing or more something they do out of valuing the community here, wanting to give back, principles, I don't know...

What you ask is very interesting, because there are people who confuse games of luck with games of reality. The other day I was talking to a friend who likes to play roulette a lot, but of course in a physical casino, roulette for me is talent given at random, but as he plays and wins because he has his own strategies, this is something that we must see , because we cannot think that we have the skill in a roulette game, or that what we do is obligatory and that he wins, no, that It's not like that, I love roulette, what was roulette is what I play the most in a Physical casino site, so given these things I can't say that I have a lot of luck in these places, no, these are skill games for me. They are poker and black jack, because you have to combine decisions with strategy and some chance, but it is not all random, well unless it is played and Absolutely nothing comes out , if that happens then no way.

But in the order that things happen in a casino , the game of poker Always has a lot to do with strategies and that is why poker is so good, in fact I have friends who are chess players, which were on the team. from the university and they are very good, and they have Currently given up chess a bit because they have discovered that in poker they can make more money than playing chess, so these are things that make me think, because a chess player knows a lot about strategies, and They can apply everything a lot to be able to win in poker, I don't know how well they do at that, because I didn't ask them much, but they told me that they are dedicated to that, I don't know, but I think they personally play at tables and that since their houses, in the casinos that are seeing things like this to make a great platform because it is something that can happen , although I have not seen a casino that suits me with its poker game, maybe I am Used to something Else.

1504  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Have you ever introduced an elder gambler to online betting? on: February 17, 2024, 06:55:44 PM
Studies have shown that older adults are particularly susceptible to gambling addiction due to factors such as increased leisure time, potential loneliness, and reduced financial security. This can lead to devastating consequences, impacting not only their own well-being but also their families and communities.

However, it is important to approach this issue with nuance. While shielding older adults from all forms of gambling might seem like a reasonable solution, it may not be the most effective or respectful approach. Many seniors enjoy participating in low-stakes games or social gambling activities as a form of leisure and social interaction. Banning all forms of gambling could unintentionally deprive them of these positive experiences.

I absolutely agree with you. Low stake gambling can be like a medicine for older people. A medicine that costs much less than what they are usually taking, but at the same time more effective too. I'm not going around telling older people to gamble, but I know that I don't actually need to do that. All of them know what gambling is and using it for their entertainment, and I think they are doing the right thing.

I think that people in their way of seeing things have to be very emphatic in what they want, I think that here where I live there is that type of person who already has all that free time because they are very retired and yes, they have a lot of time. free, but I consider that it is time to rest to do what they want, because they have already contributed with their work in their time, that is well deserved, therefore a mapr person who wants to have fun in any way has to do it because the bears have If they are so fair, then this makes things change in their way of being and they can focus on doing things better. I have my grandmother alive on my mother's side, but she is almost 80 years old and is very delicate, and whatever she can have fun with, I support her, and that is something one tries to do, my grandfather died this year. year, because what he liked most was drinking alcohol and he really liked baseball, and when he stopped drinking beer, because he had stomach cancer, and when everything he liked was taken away, he died.

But what does he think when he takes away something that an older adult really likes? They become depressed, they begin to feel very bad, because they become like children again, that's what happens with them, they are very delicate, they become little again, so they must treat themselves and let them do what they like, If they like the casino, no matter what, they have the right to have a good time in what they like, but as long as things are controlled, then given this, many things have to be done, first of all, control them so that it is not going to be addict, because that is bad, however I don't think so, they are people who sometimes control themselves very well and they don't like their money going away just like that, because they like to have fun, I think that's what it must be done.
1505  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Risking 1% in Gambling on: February 17, 2024, 06:17:23 PM
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I've started to think about something, When we are in a casino, what do we look for ? Fun or money? I think both things, right? Yes, but above all make money, because who doesn't like money? For many, there are many Strategies that people want to do and apply when entering a casino to be able to do well in the casinos and not lose all their money , because some say that if I Earn this in my salary, why not? 1% to spend? It's not bad, what happens is that 1% for 30 days, well it is something that is very little, I consider it to be very little money, or if the money is obtained in another way it is what I see as most viable, for example if I Earn whatever it is, the first thing I would do is see how much money I can spend with my salary to cover the most basic expenses, it includes meals, medicines, if there are children, then you have to leave some additional money out there so that I can cover possible expenses.

In this case, if the person is responsible because he does everything to do better, then what I think about all this is that the situations are very particular for a player or several players, because my economic situation cannot be Bought with the from another person, perhaps there will be some similarities, but for this what must always be considered is the way to be able to show what can be spent, in my case I always look for my way of spending that I don't know how much, because if cat a lot of money, obviously these things are going to generate more deficits in my financial situation, and I am an enemy of making unnecessary expenses, of lending money, because lending money is a business for the lender and a great liability for the beneficiary , there will Always be ways to Generate expenses and so what I think is that whether Spending on Bitcoin or crypto Means money to me , and that is what we must maintain well in a casino because without money we cannot play in a casino but we cannot do anything without money , then the percentage for the game has to be studied very well.

fun and money that they are looking for in the casino, but maybe the obvious is bigger and the number of people who go to the casino is to make money, because as you said the most important thing is to make money, because who doesn't like money? of course everyone likes money, because it is something that is needed by everyone. but in my opinion even though many strategies can be done and applied to gambling that will be done or that is done, it will not be able to guarantee that it can definitely produce victory. therefore as much as possible we should gamble by allocating the money we have with a small amount such as betting 1% for gambling from the income earned.

Yes, we have to pay attention to this, we have to be able to manage our finances as well as possible so that undesirable things happen, such as expenses that are not very important as you said. because in my opinion it's the same as if we have income or a lot of money but can't manage our finances well, the money we have can be spent on things that aren't really important.  Defending the money at stake in gambling is something that all gamblers definitely do, but defeat and losing money cannot be avoided. because it is something that is certain to happen.

In view of these things, if it is clear that we always want to win, I have not found the first person who tells me that they go to a Casino just to spend money , no , Maybe there are Because they have a lot of money and they don't know what they can do. spend it, I'm not like that, I always look to win, but the alternatives of a casino will always be a Factor of the casinos, they will never be in favor of us as clients, it is well known that the casinos have a house advantage, and the house edge is the only thing that makes them win money, there is no Other , we must know that before playing , in fact in the movies and everywhere they always focus on the house edge or say that the house He always wins and in fact it is like that, it is his way of seeing things, if we as players understand things with the reality that it Represents , I think we will not have any type of problem and there are no reasons to fall into addiction.

Addiction is mainly what we have to be able to debate to help people avoid falling down that path, it is something to always consider, of course I am a person who in my life has done crazy things with money, I am very modest with that , that's why I always try to look for strategies so that I can give up and have fun, of course it's always with the idea of looking for more money, but that's something because we're not completely right in things, we have to be very emphatic if We want to allocate our money well, 1% is good for the game, but that 1% is for 1 month, if the person allocates it like that, well, for me it is not at all important, because things in games of chance, casinos always They are risky and you can make a lot of money , and that is what people should see, but I would agree to make a summary of the costs after that if there is time , then if you Spend as much as you can or are willing to lose.
1506  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you have a "gambling problem" which you can sometimes control for years? on: February 17, 2024, 05:44:10 PM
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Yes, I agree with what you say, that if you lend money it is a very personal decision and each one of us at the time of entering into a casino, so we assume that the person is quite responsible because he is of legal age and has many things. to do well and that for everything you do you have to assume whether you lose or win, therefore we are the only person who is always going to focus on doing things well, I have already said my Reasons why I do not recommend taking loans and even less to play in such a way, apart from the fact that it seems crazy to me, I see it as a great irresponsible thing, but given that each person is their own world and they decide what seems best to them, it is something that I respect at all, because like Sometimes they can say that people do what they want with their money, with their things, because that is something that could leave one silent, because it is the truth, they are completely right.

So when it comes to lending money, when you plan to do things like that, that's something that we have to consider because things are different for each person, I can't say that things are the way I think of a person who has their own way of thinking. To think, no, it would be something imprudent, because no one likes someone else to come and tell them how to play, how to spend their money and how to make their financial decisions, because then each one is the owner of their actions, so in this order of ideas, many more things have to be done so that ways of thinking can be generated, but of course all this has to be thought about what should be done, I could think that when we are in a casino the best thing is what I have always applied and have I have learned that we must allocate money ready to lose, it is the only way to be able to control everything and if it is even lost, then not deposit more money or do anything, that is why I will always recommend something like this because it is the only thing I do know that works.

doing something the best is definitely a must for everyone, because with that we can produce something that will end in good things, it is impossible for anyone to do something bad with the aim of producing something less good. It is impossible. including when we go to the casino, of course we will definitely do our best to be able to produce something good such as winning, but it is not guaranteed that we will get a win at the casino Taking a loan to gamble is not a good thing in my opinion it is an action that is outside normal limits.

So that there is no borrowing and borrowing of money for gambling, therefore we must be able to allocate money ready to lose in gambling because in my opinion people who have problems with gambling are those who are not ready for the money they bet to lose, even though they lose. in gambling it will definitely happen, therefore we should be able to allocate the money we are ready to lose so that nothing happens that triggers big losses Do gambling wisely, think clearly and don't overdo it, and self-control is the key to gambling Don't deposit more money on gambling because it doesn't guarantee that you will be able to get a win that can cover the losses that have occurred.

Well, for sure, so far the money willing to lose thing has worked very well for me, and that applies to gambling and trading, it is the only way I have to control myself, and as I said, that has been my strategy only for the traditional, what happened is that it was applied to gambling and boy does it work, of course, this technique is for people who are disciplined, because anyone comes and says I'm going to spend 30usd at the casino, and if the opposition comes and you lose the 30usd, you ignore it and deposit more, because for me that is not having discipline, there is nothing worse than deceiving yourself, so if we do it like that, there is no wonder everything goes to hell, So the best thing is first of all to have discipline and if not, then acquire it once and for all, you also have to see something, in casinos everything is with money, everything is based on it, if we don't take care of our money, who is going to take care of it? the casino? No, the casino wants our money and wants that of others, but the casino gives opportunities to win and if we win and we pass, then there is the intelligence that we apply to the game.

And this should be something that not only applies to casinos, we are people who have problems in daily life, if we are not capable of having discipline in something as simple as it is in a casino, how then will we manage our lives when we Is there interaction between people who think one way or another? as ? There must be discipline for everything, there must be order, this is what we must always apply, sometimes we must adjust our things to events, there is no other way, it is a different way to do it, but we believe that it has order, I cannot Imagine how a person can handle themselves if they don't even have order to play in a casino, that is, if they have a lot of money they waste it just because they didn't control their emotions.
1507  Other / Off-topic / Re: Know when to stop on: February 17, 2024, 04:44:11 PM
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Because of this how to stop in a game? What is the perception that others have? I have already said many reasons, family, money, reasons that go far beyond tending to what it is to be more human, but apart from this the people who cannot stop are driven by their desire to play and win, to recover losses and to do whatever it takes to get something good out of the casino, for this reason the topic is discussed here, but in reality what is the point? What can be taken as a general contribution so that it can be applied? If things have a lot to do with doing everything possible to attack the problem of addiction, what I think is that the core of everything is always the same, "The lack of money" and what is lost, but the Braking methods that have been discussed are:

-Self-control.
-Money willing to lose.
-Slow down because you have many obligations, including not losing or trying to lose them.
-Friends, who can help you with or without money.

Of all this, what else can work?

I speak from my point of view of experience, I control myself first with the money that I am willing to lose and that is for the reason that I do not go beyond that, but that is not something that I discovered, I did not always make the mistakes What newbies do, in some way I didn't learn, but of course when a person already has children, has a family, then things are very different, because many already depend on one, and I think that is the biggest brake of all, of all. made a person who has that, for me it is a great treasure, it is what almost everyone fights to have, so lose it for playing? for an addiction, I think that these reasons are far above an addiction, and a person who does not yet have children but is falling into addiction has to start thinking, first that he is of a certain age and has to have a house, a car, comforts, because what you do is when you are young, I don't want to say that when you are advanced in age you can't, if you can, but that is not the idea.
1508  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you have a "gambling problem" which you can sometimes control for years? on: February 16, 2024, 11:57:30 PM
Yes, I do have a little problem with gambling but it's not very fatal, because it's only occasionally when I spend a lot of money while playing, not often or rarely, but I'm afraid that in the future it will get wilder.
Well, but do the following, the money you have, let's say if you have 500usd, do this, prepare to spend only 50usd, and I think it's a lot, but just do the test, just start playing that, after that just keep something in mind If you multiply it perfectly, don't think about it and take out the money completely, but now if you lose it then stay still, learn to have the discipline that that is what you had to lose and nothing more, because if you manage to do it you are already starting I am starting to control yourself, from my own experience it is much better to control the money than to control the emissions, and with that money you can play a lot if you set your mind to it well, but always be aware that if you want to play more at that time do not deposit, because later you will play with less money and as I told you only willing to lose, if you lose it do the same work.

Now when you have these strategies ready you will not have any kind of problems doing things for yourself. Basically, when you gain discipline, it will be easier to handle any bear. I tell you this because since I was little I learned to have discipline with my sports, especially in hapkido where at the beginning you receive a lot of blows.

But I had my way of disciplining myself and saying that with this money I do this, or that and so on, after things one learns to be discipline , but it is something that must be done, just so that things turn out better, in This order of ideas we must learn to have discipline for everything and more in this case not to lose money, I consider that not losing money is the most important thing in a casino, that is only what is most interesting.

When we are in a Casino we must take this to that level , this is the way that can be most Controlled because the fact that you Feel that you are Falling into Addiction , that Problem must be Attacked now, from now on , you do not have to think about it much , it is for your own good and it is Very sincere advice that I give you.
1509  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Risking 1% in Gambling on: February 16, 2024, 10:01:21 PM
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I've started to think about something, When we are in a casino, what do we look for ? Fun or money? I think both things, right? Yes, but above all make money, because who doesn't like money? For many, there are many Strategies that people want to do and apply when entering a casino to be able to do well in the casinos and not lose all their money , because some say that if I Earn this in my salary, why not? 1% to spend? It's not bad, what happens is that 1% for 30 days, well it is something that is very little, I consider it to be very little money, or if the money is obtained in another way it is what I see as most viable, for example if I Earn whatever it is, the first thing I would do is see how much money I can spend with my salary to cover the most basic expenses, it includes meals, medicines, if there are children, then you have to leave some additional money out there so that I can cover possible expenses.

In this case, if the person is responsible because he does everything to do better, then what I think about all this is that the situations are very particular for a player or several players, because my economic situation cannot be Bought with the from another person, perhaps there will be some similarities, but for this what must always be considered is the way to be able to show what can be spent, in my case I always look for my way of spending that I don't know how much, because if cat a lot of money, obviously these things are going to generate more deficits in my financial situation, and I am an enemy of making unnecessary expenses, of lending money, because lending money is a business for the lender and a great liability for the beneficiary , there will Always be ways to Generate expenses and so what I think is that whether Spending on Bitcoin or crypto Means money to me , and that is what we must maintain well in a casino because without money we cannot play in a casino but we cannot do anything without money , then the percentage for the game has to be studied very well.
1510  Economy / Gambling / Re: Which are best stake alternatives on: February 16, 2024, 08:04:29 PM
From me personally Stake is just so good and has set the standards so high that it's quite hard to suggest anyone an alternative site. Although I did come across dual bits's new fantasy game mode which is great and only available on that site.
Stake is good but it's not great enough to make it hard to suggest other casinos to the OP, especially when he is looking for original games.
My favourite crypto casinos with original games are:

1. Bitsler.com - They have many original games with very nice UI and good house edge, including Dice, Twist, Keno, Boom, Ulitmate Poker, Plinko, Fruitsler, Mines, BlackJack, Roulette, Blast (bustabit), Crypto Thugs, Baccarat, Video Poker, Chests, Flash Roulette, Hi-Lo, Dicey 7's, Cara Y Cruz, Multi Color.

2. BC.Game - Crash (bustabit), Limbo, Classic Dice, Plinko, Hash Dice, Keno, Ultimate Dice, Wheel, Twist, Cave Of Plunder, Mine, Tower Legend, Coinflip, Hi-Lo, Roulette, Ring of Fortune, Video Poker, Oriental Beauties, Saviour Sword, Fast Parity, Baccarat, BlackJack, Deadliest Sea, Double, Roulette Multiplayer, Keno Multiplayer, Baccarat Multiplayer and some private Live Blackjack tables.

3. Crypto.Games - This website only contains their original games. Their visual side is not very entertaining but if I were you, I would check them out.

I would also check Rollbit and Duelbits. There aren't many other casinos that come to my mind right now.

Of those casinos BC.GAME is very successful, in fact I have seen that many people have registered because they liked the experience in that casino, I don't know but apparently those I have asked tell me that they are doing well, , I haven't played there much, I have always said that people like a particular casino because they like the way their favorite game is, because in the case of playing dice, for me it is infallible that the best is freebitco.in, but That's just for my opinion, I like its atmosphere even though almost all casinos have dice, I like that platform better.

Regarding the platforms that are sister to stake.com such as Primedice, it has an interesting dice game as well, and although it has a very classic and conservative style I cannot deny that things are very different there despite the principle The game's functionality is the same.

What I can think about the casinos is that the one that has the most control is because they are always introducing new games, at least weekly they include many new slot games, and for me slots are the most popular game these days, before for me It was poker, but seeing things as they have turned out.

There are no poker game platforms in PVP mode which is the only thing that attracts my attention the most and although playing in the casino alone against the casino is something I don't like, I have the perception that I will always be losing, first because It is against the casino, the casinos will always have the advantage of the house and secondly things will always be focused on the fact that a person cannot win much, but in the casio delso PVP poker tournaments if I see more chances of winning, maybe I will I'm queuivacndo, but in a table of 8 people I see that I have more chances of winning than by myself against the system, the casinos that are in the forum are mostly very good, but as I said before, casinos like satke.com and those that They are old, I think they have a lot of advantage over the others.
1511  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2 years old kids alone at home for hours, while the father goes gambling on: February 16, 2024, 07:32:22 PM
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Today I am accompanying a friend in court, because she has a partner who is not the father of her child, and it turns out that she left him, but the guy is very crazy, he comes to her house, harasses her, threatens her and he He says he loves her, it's just for him, and she's very scared, right now I'm here with her so I can talk to a prosecutor or someone who can help her quickly, in fact I'm involved in this and several times I've lost connection on my phone and I made a double post with everything very poorly written, but it is because here they tell us that they cannot sue a man because basically he does not have the evidence, that is, the woman must arrive completely beaten, mistreated and cannot act without something like that , So what's up? She has her son who is precisely 2 years old and what scares her most is that this guy attacks that child, and that is something that bothers anyone, in fact she looked for me because with me she feels protected by the fact. that in one of my jobs I was a bodyguard, and that's why she says that if she sees me with me, then she won't be stupid to approach me.

Now the problem is that with women's rights it is not right to file a lawsuit, but when she was appointed because she has a 2-year-old son, they are already taking action, at least writing a file, I don't know what other countries will be like in this regard. to women's rights, but I believe that in all countries if there is a man who verbally hurts a woman he must go to jail, because she tells me that she is afraid that this man will come to her house when she is sleeping Even though she has a lock on her house, it is an extremely uncomfortable situation, and she is being given improcratic care for the child. In this case, it is not because she is a bad mother, but she feels threatened, but I consider that the authorities do not They give it so much importance, sometimes because of the children, they should raise their voices, because how do they defend themselves?
1512  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you have a "gambling problem" which you can sometimes control for years? on: February 16, 2024, 07:15:20 PM
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Yes, I agree with what you say, that if you lend money it is a very personal decision and each one of us at the time of entering into a casino, so we assume that the person is quite responsible because he is of legal age and has many things. to do well and that for everything you do you have to assume whether you lose or win, therefore we are the only person who is always going to focus on doing things well, I have already said my Reasons why I do not recommend taking loans and even less to play in such a way, apart from the fact that it seems crazy to me, I see it as a great irresponsible thing, but given that each person is their own world and they decide what seems best to them, it is something that I respect at all, because like Sometimes they can say that people do what they want with their money, with their things, because that is something that could leave one silent, because it is the truth, they are completely right.

So when it comes to lending money, when you plan to do things like that, that's something that we have to consider because things are different for each person, I can't say that things are the way I think of a person who has their own way of thinking. To think, no, it would be something imprudent, because no one likes someone else to come and tell them how to play, how to spend their money and how to make their financial decisions, because then each one is the owner of their actions, so in this order of ideas, many more things have to be done so that ways of thinking can be generated, but of course all this has to be thought about what should be done, I could think that when we are in a casino the best thing is what I have always applied and have I have learned that we must allocate money ready to lose, it is the only way to be able to control everything and if it is even lost, then not deposit more money or do anything, that is why I will always recommend something like this because it is the only thing I do know that works.
1513  Economy / Gambling / Re: Casino vs. Stoc,Forex&Crypto Broker: Who's Really Playing You in the Money Game on: February 16, 2024, 06:39:57 PM
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Come on dude, really?  Can you at least proofread your walls of text before posting them? I wasted 5 minutes of my life reading that crap! Wink

archive: https://ninjastic.space/post/63673788

Lolz, no offence to LUCKMCFLY, but I honestly don't waste my time reading or replying to such a long wall of texts, excepts if it's the OP of the thread, like the initial starting post of a thread..
A comment in a thread that is that long automatically turns me off, and I don't bother reading them.

I personally understand that the reason why LUCKMCFLY is used to posting such a long walls of text as comments in several of his posts is for the purpose of winning the Stake campaign weekly bonus, but he and every other persons who engage in this style of posting should atleast, proofread their wall of texts before clicking the "post" button, some times, I wonder is stake campaign management even read this things before awarding their weekly bonus  Huh.

Well it's not that I wrote Rubbish , what I did was at the time that I had a very bad Internet Connection, I didn't read it because where I am at that moment the connection dropped completely and I thought I had deleted that paragraph, that's why I wrote it again, although I don't see it as a wall or something like that, I don't do it for any weekly bonus, the topics interest me and I try to contribute everything I can, if you start reading carefully, I made that Post today for What they have not read yet on stake.com , I do not Understand the double-intentioned and Malicious comment , I Already said that I had that connection problem, and well I only apologize for the Misunderstanding , but with respect to the Brokers, exchanges and casinos That's my Perception. And if you have doubts about why he gives me a bonus, it's simple, you just have to talk to those in charge of reviewing the company.
1514  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do not gamble with Loan Money~otherwise you will be in danger like me on: February 16, 2024, 06:21:51 PM
make it a valuable lesson for you, I have never gambled with borrowed money, but sometimes I go wild in gambling, I will be more careful in the future, hearing from your story I am afraid of gambling, because I usually spend a lot money when curiosity is high while playing

Surely, have not gambling with borrowed money because is your on personal risky you can't give 100% that the money you borrow and bet will enter, is on unpredictable you can lose and earn is just you to think what will be better for you, people that gambling with borrowed money they are just a big risk taker in the gambling but when you have a source of money even if you lose you can get money to pay the debt but if you are just a normal person that is managing your money When I was gambling, I used to follow some of my professionals in the game they us to stake small odd like 3 to 4 and put huge money to get big profits And he helps a lot, which some people don't understand. They used to play long thickets and it was difficult for them to win all of the games, but if it was 3 to 4 odd, you could assure a win.

Yes, I agree with what you say, that if you lend money it is a very personal decision and each one of us at the time of entering into a case, so we assume that the person is quite responsible because he is of legal age and has many things. to do well and that for everything you do you have to assume whether you lose or win, therefore we are the only person who is always going to focus on doing things well, I have already said my Reasons why I do not recommend taking loans and even less to play in such a way, apart from the fact that it seems crazy to me, I see it as a great irresponsible thing, but given that each person is their own world and they decide what seems best to them, it is something that I respect at all, because like Sometimes they can say that people do what they want with their money, with their things, because that is something that could leave one silent, because it is the truth, they are completely right.

So when it comes to lending money, when you plan to do things like that, that's something that we have to consider because things are different for each person, I can't say that things are the way I think of a person who has their own way of thinking. To think, no, it would be something imprudent, because no one likes someone else to come and tell them how to play, how to spend their money and how to make their financial decisions, because then each one is the owner of their actions, so in this order of ideas, many more things have to be done so that ways of thinking can be generated, but of course all this has to be thought about what should be done, I could think that when we are in a casino the best thing is what I have always applied and have I have learned that we must allocate money ready to lose, it is the only way to be able to control everything and if it is even lost, then not deposit more money or do anything, that is why I will always recommend something like this because it is the only thing I do know that works.
1515  Economy / Gambling / Re: Responsible gambling on: February 16, 2024, 06:05:51 PM
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In that you are completely right, for example, since I was little, I was about 8-9 years old, because I liked to watch the TV advertisements that were related to cigarettes, because there were very beautiful women in swimsuits and they They made movements that fascinated me on the beach, and that was something that fascinated me, but I was a child and I already liked a woman like that, and I said that when I grew up I wanted to buy those cigarettes to go to school. beach with women of that style, of course it is because it is understood that these things sell, and the best TV Advertisements for me were those for cigarettes, they always hired very beautiful women to do things like that, but it is the advertising that that sells, that is why sometimes many say that the sexualization of things does sell and yes, whenever there are women or something , as a man it catches your attention and sometimes just by seeing them because they buy the products.

In the case of fairs or things that are local parties, there are always women who are wow and wear clothes that attract, especially for the sale of beer, and that attracts a lot, and it is a way that can sell a lot. In fact, in any sale, if they use very beautiful women , I am sure that there will be a much higher success rate , that is why the concept of marketing is essential for a casino. I say that a casino that does not invest in good marketing will not It will be successful, that's how it is and it will always be that way. I don't see any other way. The normal advertising that is done is done by everyone, so this type of advertising that is much more radical because they get results very quickly, immediately and clearly, it has to be seen with That, that is why a casino should not hesitate when it comes to making a great markeint, because for everything things must Always be very focused on doing things well, so in this order of ideas I say that this is a great weapon.
1516  Economy / Gambling / Re: How to self exclude from anonymous gambling sites on: February 16, 2024, 05:41:19 PM
My words don`t mean that i don`t want to help anybody. I don`t want to help someone, who fails his life himself. There are lots of people with problems with health who need help and i prefer to help these people than any kind of addict. It is more fair as for me. Gambling addicts destroy their life themselves. They need to change their mind, make something with their brains and after it it is possible to help them. But even in this situation a don`t sure that i`ll choose the addict.
And what exactly made you think that someone who is going through a health challenge didn't not contribute to his or her health challenges? Either through smoking, intake of excessive alcohol, eating too much junk food, not drinking clean water, not keeping a healthy hygiene like clean surroundings, wearing clean cloths, eating clean food, keeping good relationships for their emotional benefits and so on.
What makes you think it's only people addicted to one thing or the other, which in this case is gambling, that brought upon themselves what they are going through?

Well, if you believe that helping people with health challenges is the only true help, then also understand that even being addicted to gambling is also a health challenge, and the same way the addicted gambler brought him or her self into the addiction, so also did a sick person contribute one way or the other in his or her sickness.
Why do you think that i don`t do my research before i decide to help someone? It is my money and i know how to spend it, but why you decide that you know better how i have to do it?
I think that all kinds of addict made their lives worse by themselves and i don`t want to spend my time and money trying to help them. If you have another opinion - you can do it.

Majority of human beings are selfish and doesnt really tend to help out someone and doesnt really care on others conditions or situation as long they've been doing on the things that they are really that dealing with.

If ever they've seen that others have those problems they dont really care. You would really be always minding on your own. Speaking about exclusions then it would really be totally be that depending
on how you would be doing it. There are some sites does have features which does have exclusions but only a few have this. Other things like been mentioned about having that staking or locking
up your funds then its not really that a bad option either.

The main key on here is that when you do tend to have a break in gambling then you should really mean it. It would be only taking up
that strong self will and discipline for you to be able to successfully be able to handle up such situation.

What he says makes a lot of logic because it is true, in fact in the forum not everything is like that, there are people we come across who are not just Toxic or putting their Foot in it to climb, stepping on others, or seeking fame by trying to trampling on others with their things, which really makes me absolutely disgusted, it's something like scammers, so I say that the things we can do to help others will always be well rewarded, well this is just what I I say that you can see, here in the forum there are very nice people, because in itself , I say something , if one does nice things then yes, God and life will give you great rewards, that is what matters, in part when it comes to autexclusion of a casino, because they are something that must be Valued and that must be Supported , I personally Believe that when it comes to making these Efforts and to make it viral, they should be seen everywhere, on fors, networks social, because this type of Actions is what makes any person a Hero.

The fact of fighting against something as serious as an addiction is and taking those types of decisions just so that your well-being remains does not change Everything, and that is an indication of being a great person, for that reason we always We must try to put ourselves in the shoes of the people to be able to understand, and see how certain problems can be attacked and this is something that we must always lift our spirits, because few People have that courage to do things that way , others give up or They don't continue anymore, but this is the beginning of being a person who fights , and of Taking care of oneself, and for me those who manage to get out of this, are people to give their Recognition , and are examples for sure that things can be done, and Many people should read this, Especially those who are in the forum with signs of being Addicted , it is a very life Story and an example.
1517  Economy / Gambling / Re: Casino vs. Stoc,Forex&Crypto Broker: Who's Really Playing You in the Money Game on: February 16, 2024, 04:55:29 PM
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That's right, but the question here is how to avoid doing it if for almost everything they require KYC, I know there are people who are very extreme with their decisions, in fact since the KYC requirement came out I know that many players do not They have not even wanted to verify themselves because they know that things like this can be very different for them, they are people who have also left their personal data, they have not even been able to do anything so that they can leave their phone numbers, which is something that can be very well accepted, when it is like that not even that is allowed, then I imagine that this type of person is not in brokers, they are not in centralized exchanges and apart from that they do not have the way to do the same things like the majority who are Leaving KYC for all sides, but sometimes it's like feeling locked in a very big world and not being able to enjoy it because it is something that does hit.

Although this thing with anonymity, privacy and everything that has to do with No KYC has its great advantages, because I consider that this type of thing will always be something that cannot be done as it is.

I could think that when we are looking for fun, in brokers, exchanges or even in a casino , the closest one that was without KYC requirement was freebitco.in and now things sound very different because basically things are done well with KYC The truth is, I have not done anything to be on freebitco.in and be able to do things better , I will always say that things with this casino are good , the bad thing is that it joined that casino list that has KYC, now the things sound different, I don't know how demanding they are or what the Reason was for them to Change their policies so that it was like this now, so I don't know, but what I am forced to think is that I have only put my KYC in the casino of all life , only the most Reliable, there is no other.

If a casino collects Personal Data from customers, this may be justified by the fact that it primarily complies with legal requirements and instructions and regulations of local regulators.  The second aspect of collecting personal data is some kind of guarantee against payment of winnings to scammers and control over payment of winnings.  The third aspect is purely marketing and the use of clients’ personal data for advertising, and in some cases for the sale of this data to advertising agencies for targeted advertising.  

So, the amount of personal data within the framework of KYC can be very different.  
This can only be an email, or a mobile phone number; in extreme cases, this is a volume of data comparable to the amount of personal information that a bank will require, for example, to process a mortgage loan.  
The correct thing to do is to always ensure that the casino does not receive unnecessary personal data, and in some cases you can argue with the support team of such a casino and not send them, for example, photographs of your face or documents.  In my experience, sometimes it is even possible to reduce through negotiations the amount of your Personal Data that is required from you when providing the relevant Service.

I think that the data is very delicate to leave it anywhere, for me the most important thing in all this is that you always let yourself be carried away by things when they are more reliable casinos, in these times things with the data must be very different, in This case of a casino that always demands the same from others, is it something more important? Many more things have to be done, for example the KYC that is earned? That the drawer could have data from whom? or for whom? This is undoubtedly so that they are filtered to governments, to entities that have to do with banks, so that tomorrow or in the future we can generate more things that are different such as taxes, I personally have always said that anonymity and Privacy are rights that little by little have been skewed, they are being distorted a lot, with the issue of regulation, because this way it is safer, that when there is a problem things can be resolved faster, in fact one day I read in a post from a casino that I don't remember which one, where they said that they defend KYC because at the time there was a hack with the KYC identification that was easy to solve when it came to refunding the money.


Now things can be very delicate with these types of statements, I know what they do to make people complain, but in part these things are pure lies, because only with the user ID can the money be refunded, otherwise, like it was before? When did mandatory KYC not exist? So for me these are more than excuses and just words, things are not like that, I am not here to deceive anyone, no one is so ignorant as to believe these things, whoever wants to believe it, that is their problem, But I have always defended that one as a person and as a player should play in total anonymity if they wish, and should respect that, but how do you go about fighting the titans?

Edit. I edited because at the time I was making the publication I deleted and wrote again, I also had connection problems.
1518  Economy / Gambling / Re: The most liquid companies in the gambling industry on: February 16, 2024, 03:41:41 PM
I write quite a lot and often here on our forum about how KYC when it comes to cryptocurrency payments is evil and is unacceptable in the future.  A person, including a casino player, should not endlessly send his personal data anywhere and to anyone.  And it is unknown why this is being done.  And the requirements for storing this personal data are not met everywhere.  And the more we discuss here that KYC is evil, the more our colleagues on the forum will be inspired by this idea and I hope they will increasingly ignore services with mandatory KYC.  And after some time, such services will discover an outflow of clients precisely because of the refusal of KYC and because of the presence of alternative competitors without the KYC requirement.  

So by discussing this topic we perform a socially useful function.  
At least that's what I think.

I agree with you, when we are talking about this topic, because I have Heard many , However they are nothing, there is no way to do it, by Knowing a Little more about the subject, at least we are seeing that things with the KYC Included with the VPN because it is what we already manage, but the casinos are going to lose parliament, so it is a way for us to be able to do things better, or to defend ourselves better, I am very reticent therefore when we We are looking for ways to defend ourselves in a casino because this helps here , however I know some friends who have entered a casino and things are still quite strong because they do not pay them until they comply with the KYC, and it is a KYC is generally somewhat demanding, of course they are not old casinos, they are casinos that are relatively new, but they demand a lot from them and I don't like that.

For these problems, it is better to be in a physical casino Where there is Nothing to do but show your ID, card, DNI or identification, there are the things that can identify us and the withdrawals are immediate and things must be done Perfectly , I am that not be with that KYC thing.

Now when we are in a casino and they ask us for ntry Identification, something like the brokers know that KYC is not so harsh, there are people who do not like to give their data at all because one has to have their data on the web like anything, and when they discover the things they get into, casinos, exchanges, brokers, things like that, it is a very easy target for criminals , now the criminals also specialize in hacking and things like this, so you have to be careful in all only Sense , casino data is something that can be leaked, as I said before, hacks are very common, so I consider that a casino Should not pass KYC after $2k is withdrawn, that's what I can think of that could be annoying.


By the way, here are my views and reasoning regarding these same $2K.  
In my opinion, this requirement is gradually becoming obsolete, but for some reason no casinos and no regulatory authorities are trying to bring this value into line with global dollar inflation.  This am ount, in my opinion, already seems too small to necessarily be used as a boundary value so that players can freely transfer such amounts of money to their wallets.  In my opinion, this limit should already be set somewhere around $5K, which would really eliminate unnecessary difficulties for many players with this stupid fuss when passing the next verification under the KYC procedure.  It’s even better to set a limit for the amount you can withdraw without additional complications, even $10K.  
Although I certainly understand that the global banking lobby will still not allow a significant reduction in the requirements for control over money transfers.  They are actively demanding this damned KYC from citizens, now even in cryptocurrency paymonts.  And this is generally arrogance and interference in the private lives of citizens.  In this case, blatant interference in the lives of cryptocurrency owners.


Well, personally , I think that things should be at $10k just like they do at the airports, after $10k, if the arguments are made about the origin of funds, for me that is all that should be done, but baado in that the casinos have their own rules, it is up to us to Accept if we want to have our data there and roseguri with the Records and everything, but personally for me things must be very different, I might think that things could be seen differently. In a different way, I have always said that when we are looking for a casino that does many good things, well it is difficult. I might think that if we are not in a casino things can be very difficult, if we want to have a good experience, well We have to go quickly to a casino that is highly reputable and something that focuses on Trust.

The core of all this is that they generate trust, because anyone who deposits, or likes having their money gnawed, does not like improper things being done to them and because of this I say that things will always be focused on doing the best possible for everyone, I can deduce that for me the most important thing in a casino is money, and for me as a player it will always be that, no matter how much one understands a game, or how much one can do, but The important thing about these things is that we manage to do things well, what I can recommend is that, in a casino what we must look for is trust, where to have safe money and here in the forum there are many casinos that are trustworthy, such as sportsbet.io, bitcasino.io, stake.com, duelbits, among others, because they are casinos that have a very good reputation, they are very well accepted in the crypto world, on the financial side and this is the only thing that really matters, because there will be no reason to doubt them, this is something that must be seen.
1519  Economy / Gambling / Re: Roobet.com | Crypto’s Fastest Growing Casino 🦘 on: February 15, 2024, 10:27:34 PM
roobet is doing great with the marketing campaigns here in the forum, glad they keep it up after so many weeks.
Indeed. They became well known here because of their different marketing strategies (sig campaign, contests, games etc.) the reason why they became popular. Though they already lessen their promotions as well as their sig participants.
Actually, not only on this forum but also on several crypto sites, I often see Roobet advertising banners there and of course that can also get traffic for their site and the most important thing is that they often hold giveaways, contests both on this forum and on social media. them, that's what makes Roobet continue to be known to all the public and other gamblers, the point is that the marketing team is the most important thing for the success of an online casino site and Roober has a smart marketing team to attract traffic.

I still play on this site occasionally for some time because I try my luck on this site too besides that sometimes I take part in giveaways held on their social media including twitter, that's why I'm happy with Roobet they compete with other online casinos in unique marketing too competing fiercely, but really competing professionally and I also don't doubt their marketing team, so far I think their marketing team is quite great and they deserve a high salary to improve other ideas so that their site continues to get high traffic.

That's how you gonna market your casino and don't rely only on single platform since you cannot expand your exposure with that if you only advertise your casino to a single platform. Although bitcointalk is the biggest but they still need to market on any site so that they can hit another market and increase more their exposure. But they are well know into this and we see the consistency of Roobet for doing such good contest that's why they became one of the reputable casino that ever exist in this forum.

Their marketing team is good and it generate them a lot of traffic so lets see if we can see more promotional stuff to launch since for sure this is also what people like to see.
They do have the budget
They do have those great minds in marketing department

These two things could really make things possible on which it is really just that right that they wont really be putting up much focus on a single point when it comes to marketing or exposure
on which in every business then the more mediums you are really that having that exposure then the more awareness that it could give but its true that putting up focus
something on likes of this forum is surely a great thing considering that this is a crypto casino then it would be relevant that they would be heavily be putting up considering on
making marketing on the highest traffic crypto forum of course.

Well, what I have always said is that in a business that is about casinos, gambling, sports betting and everything that involves betting, I say that the Best thing is to have Impressive marketing , that is so that you can compete. With the greatest of all times , Casinos are always a way of Doing things so that you can generate a lot of money , Above all they are Companies , businesses that will always have their way of making money.

So for me it is a great way to be Able to advertise a site through Marketing, the forum is the most authentic way to get some natural, Authentic Traffic that can be taken Advantage of, I personally will always say that it is better to do this It is attacked through good Publicity , I Know that some People do not have a lot of money , but this is like an investment , from the moment it begins to give results, because that is when things must be done well.

When I am going to take Things from the Point of view so that a Company has a vision and is about doing any type of thing so that the Audience is larger, then Marketing for me is my ally, yes. I know that sometimes money is needed for this, but it is worth it Because later the marketing is paid only with the income that comes in , For Example in the casinos that are cyrpto , if they could get into more local, more specific advertising, I would use the radio and the TV, because even that has an audience, things can be seen that way, because for me this has a lot to do with seeing things as they are, I could think that when things are seen from that point of View , it is It has to see how and when it can be done better, the more Audience the more Community and the more community the better Everything is so that things can be done better , what I do is Basically focus on good Marketing such as the forum , social Networks because that is something that does give Results.
1520  Economy / Gambling / Re: How to self exclude from anonymous gambling sites on: February 15, 2024, 08:20:38 PM
My words don`t mean that i don`t want to help anybody. I don`t want to help someone, who fails his life himself. There are lots of people with problems with health who need help and i prefer to help these people than any kind of addict. It is more fair as for me. Gambling addicts destroy their life themselves. They need to change their mind, make something with their brains and after it it is possible to help them. But even in this situation a don`t sure that i`ll choose the addict.
And what exactly made you think that someone who is going through a health challenge didn't not contribute to his or her health challenges? Either through smoking, intake of excessive alcohol, eating too much junk food, not drinking clean water, not keeping a healthy hygiene like clean surroundings, wearing clean cloths, eating clean food, keeping good relationships for their emotional benefits and so on.
What makes you think it's only people addicted to one thing or the other, which in this case is gambling, that brought upon themselves what they are going through?

Well, if you believe that helping people with health challenges is the only true help, then also understand that even being addicted to gambling is also a health challenge, and the same way the addicted gambler brought him or her self into the addiction, so also did a sick person contribute one way or the other in his or her sickness.
Why do you think that i don`t do my research before i decide to help someone? It is my money and i know how to spend it, but why you decide that you know better how i have to do it?
I think that all kinds of addict made their lives worse by themselves and i don`t want to spend my time and money trying to help them. If you have another opinion - you can do it.

Well, things are always very emphatic about it, in general the things I do are very different, when there is a risk of a person becoming addicted, well if he is with me I ask him questions so that I can consider his bets so that he doesn't take the plunge. Sometimes, you try to put less money or at least diversify it into other things, and if you have money willing to spend as you have to spend it and all that, then these are very delicate things, worse for the person who does something So, it's your money, you see how you spend it, because there you can't do anything else, this is something that will always be like that, now things will always be that way to be able to generate the best of yourself, I need it. What I can say about this is that before playing one or any other game or person, it is best to have some money completely available to spend, because it is the most correct way to do things, not having the money and spending it all at once.

Now this is what I have always recommended, and it is not that it is something that I have invented , it is something that I have always Applied in gtrading, trading is what teaches me to do this, always before doing Anything , See how much money I am willing to Spend and from there I make my plans, it is the least way because I have the money I Have to do all the things that is the worst, because it is very easy to lose it, so it makes no sense for me to do something like that , I You Might think that when you have other ways of doing things , I Respect them , but for me the Main thing is to do it that way , or there is another way.

And so far in Trading as in gambling it has worked for me , I have not seen that so far things have not gone wrong for me, I say that for any Eventuality it is good to do whatever it takes to be able to generate fewer ways of doing things. things , but so far this seems to me to be a Unique Protection strategy that can save anyone who falls into Addiction.
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