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1501  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Signs of compulsive gambling on: February 10, 2023, 04:54:27 AM
Many times we are in a situation and we do not not realize the intensity of the problem. One such case is compulsive gambling. In simple words, it means that you are unable to control the urge to get involved with gambling even after understanding the potential harms associated with it.

Here are some signs of compulsive gambling :
1) Gambling related thoughts are always in your mind even when you are working on other activities
2) You keep increasing the gambling related money with each game
3) You try to gamble more in attempt to recover loss
4) Ignoring other important work like job just for gambling
Would you like to add to these signs ? Have you ever found yourself trapped in this situation and how did you get rid of this ?
All of these signs and behaviors you mentioned are true and happen to gamblers all the time, and this is why gamblers go back to gambling again and again, and gamblers can't quit even when they promise to quit gambling over and over again. And gamblers cannot concentrate on any work because of these incidents.  And they always misbehave with family members too because gambling addiction keeps his mind always rough
1502  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What most gamblers do. on: February 10, 2023, 04:47:54 AM
I want to ask a question. And I need serious answer from this forum, and my question is WHY DOES A GAMBLER DON'T HAVE A SAVINGS.
In my country (Nigeria) there are many gamblers who don't have savings and it isn't help matters at all. Most of these gamblers can't afford for there families but they can afford money they will use to gamble. So why are they not having savings that they can use to help there families in time of lack. Like they said, we save money so money can save us tomorrow. But these gamblers doesn't know that.
Gambling acts like an addiction to alcohol in gamblers who are addicted to gambling and never think about tomorrow.  So they don't hesitate to bet their all.  And that's how they lose all their savings and many gamblers lose their wealth, property and everything in gambling. And because of this, addicted gamblers do not have savings. Again if luck is good many gamblers win a large amount then they have savings for the miner but they can't keep it for long either.  Greed drives them to gamble again and lose everything
1503  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: how many times have you intended to stop gambling on: February 09, 2023, 12:21:44 PM
The intention to stop gambling certainly always crosses everyone's mind. It's just that it can't be done in a nutshell. Once again I say that maybe stopping gambling is not a solution, but if we divert or change the perspective of gambling as just a game then the risk of addiction will not be too bad. Most of those who are addicted clearly cannot bring themselves to stop no matter how strong the result is nil.

Personally, even though I have been gambling for years, it feels like I can still control what I want. For example, whether there is money or not, I still have no guilt if I don't gamble. The key to it all is self-awareness and always thinking of everything as mere entertainment. Take control of gambling and you don't have to force yourself to stop.
Whether you think of gambling as a simple game or as a way to make money, if you gamble regularly, you will surely become a major addict. And on the other hand I agree with you that stopping gambling may not be a big solution.  But gambling should be used sparingly and always keep confidence in yourself that you will never become addicted to gambling anyway. This may be the only way to get rid of it
1504  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2022/2023 on: February 09, 2023, 12:16:12 PM
This is a gift for Newcastle, which they simply must use. Bournemouth shouldn't be a big problem for them. I'd bet on 3rd place. Newcastle's victory will only put them on a par with Manchester United, but will they stay there for a long time, because, I'm sure Manchester United will break away from Newcastle in subsequent matches. Even despite the draw in the last match. Or still not. And that's why.

Yeah certainly a gift for Newcastle but Newcastle also have been struggling to score and they also have been dropping points in last few rounds so Newcastle needs someone to score goals for them. Bournemouth is an easy opponent but lately they have been defending well in my opinion so Newcastle needs to put a good attacking plan to find some goals in next fixture.

I feel without Eriksen and Casemiro also will struggle as once again without them it gives their opponent to dominate in the mid and find openings. Good thing they have Sabitzer right now but with Fred and McTominay I feel they will be same back as they used to be when Ole was managing them.
Newcastle's last match was against West Ham but Newcastle even from 5th position drew with 17th position team due to which Newcastle fell behind in terms of points otherwise Newcastle could have got some more points and overtake Man United in terms of points. Newcastle's next match against Bournemouth is a big opportunity for them because Bournemouth is not a very strong team so Newcastle can easily win this match and collect some points.  And if they can do well here, they might be able to overtake Man United
1505  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Are you still holding your coins #btc on: February 09, 2023, 12:02:47 PM
None of the above, because mine remains partly, meaning I sold some of it and convert to some altcoins and also keep holding most part for longer Holding.

I will consider buying more if it dumps and will sell everything once the price reached out at least 50k before the halving and those are my plans.
It doesn't look like bitcoin will dump again it's slowly starting to recover now and it will probably cross $30k very soon so if you wait any longer for that dump you might not be able to buy bitcoins or at this point I'm a fool to have the bitcoins that I have  I sold them but can't afford to buy them again as the price has gone up so now I'm trying to save the bitcoins I got from the signature campaign. But I don't know how much I will be able to save this way
You can still be profitable if you plan to collect bitcoins for the long term. Because we are still far from the high price of Bitcoin. No one can not assure  that Bitcoin will not go down. Collecting bitcoins as small part have the possibility to become large asset. Next year 2024 we will get another ATH which will be stronger than the previous one. So, who prepare him self from this time can be successful if they manage to hold Bitcoin until it gets bullish. I also sold my bitcoins but decided to hold again and very much optimistic on Bitcoin holdings.
I think 2022 is the right time to invest in bitcoin. If we can keep investing in bitcoin in 2022 then it would be profitable for us now. But expect bitcoin price to increase very soon. I have seen some people investing in bitcoin.  If they can hold the Bitcoin price for the long term, they will make a lot of money.
So far Bitcoin has not pumped much.  Bitcoin hit a low of $15,000 towards the end of 2022.  And the current price is at $22k which is not much because the ATH was $68k. There is still a great opportunity to invest in Bitcoin.  So it is not right to jump on Bitcoin just because the price of Bitcoin is low.  Little by little you have to invest a few dollars regularly  to make DCA look great. then this would be a good investment strategy
1506  Economy / Gambling / Re: Gambler Loses 1.4 million USD in a bet with lower than 1.01 odds! on: February 09, 2023, 11:55:41 AM
A gambling addict never realizes how risky it is and how much money a single bet is good for. Then they think that betting a big account will give a big amount of return and they will become rich in a very short time.  But when he loses that big amount he can feel how big a mistake he made.  And thus many lose everything and end up in huge debt or commit suicide.
In fact, being too obsessed with wealth from gambling is something that is really not recommended for gamblers because it will only give them big losses and losses.
We don't know whether to win or lose in a game, even though we can still minimize the rate of defeat, not everyone can do it.
Some people can indeed make large amounts of money at gambling and even then they already have sufficient experience and knowledge in all games or bets.
So the option to get rich in an instant by relying on gambling is just a dream for those who are beginners or gamblers who only have money without any knowledge or strategy.
Intelligence and strategy do not always work in gambling, many times even professional gamblers lose in gambling. So whether a professional gambler or a new gambler.  While gambling one should always make every single bet with a small amount of dollars otherwise there is a chance of losing huge sums at some point.  And it would be better if no one gambled constantly. People who gamble only for fun never suffer big losses. Those who become addicted to gambling and continue to gamble for earning  money always suffer big losses.
1507  Economy / Reputation / Re: SBF-Ross Ulbricht on: February 09, 2023, 11:48:23 AM
SBF's Company FTX Bancroft's $32 Billion Value Drops to Zero Value in an Instant. FTX tried to attract big investors by promoting them in various places. They have sponsored various international sports and have enlisted Hollywood stars including Tom Brady as influencers.  And in the middle of the Super Bowl they promoted ads in what is called the world's most expensive ads spot and they succeeded and It was clashing with Binance.  But due to some mistakes by SBF, FTX vanished overnight.  SBF is solely responsible for this.  The value of FTX was 32 billion dollars which was not the personal property of SBF.  It was a public investment.  So SBF has to take responsibility for these. So SBF should be punished more severely. Because millions of people's hard earned money was deposited  in FTX.
32 billion dollars is not a small amount and what they have done is like an indication or a planned ending but all of that is still speculation to corner someone.
apart from that, making a mistake that ends up causing a lot of people to lose is a crime whether intentional or not.

with their mistakes, being imprisoned is a proper thing, but will that make many people who have lost be satisfied?
i don't think so, many people have lost their money that was kept in FTX, now how do people think for it to be refunded for many lost users.

giving a prison sentence is a punishment that can't change any situation, he who does wrong seems to receive what he deserves without any correction being made to clean up the mistakes made.
Where a company of 32 billion dollars has gone bankrupt  There is no way for the owner to come and pay that many dollar penalty so it is a false comfort for every user to expect a refund.  So even if the lost dollars are not recovered, the person responsible for this incident should be punished so that he never dares to make such a mistake again. And he should be punished so severely that his punishment will make other billionaire company owners and also small company owners to be careful and not to repeat such incidents in future. He should be jailed for life
1508  Economy / Reputation / Re: SBF-Ross Ulbricht on: February 08, 2023, 11:57:07 AM
SBF's Company FTX Bancroft's $32 Billion Value Drops to Zero Value in an Instant. FTX tried to attract big investors by promoting them in various places. They have sponsored various international sports and have enlisted Hollywood stars including Tom Brady as influencers.  And in the middle of the Super Bowl they promoted ads in what is called the world's most expensive ads spot and they succeeded and It was clashing with Binance.  But due to some mistakes by SBF, FTX vanished overnight.  SBF is solely responsible for this.  The value of FTX was 32 billion dollars which was not the personal property of SBF.  It was a public investment.  So SBF has to take responsibility for these. So SBF should be punished more severely. Because millions of people's hard earned money was deposited  in FTX.
1509  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: [DONATION] A donation campaign for the natural disaster happened in Turkey on: February 08, 2023, 11:18:27 AM
The incident is really tragic. This is very sad to see.  But it's admirable that so many people are coming forward to donate to it. So far $623k has been donated through bsc wallet via BNB and different stablecoin/coins. who died due to this incident, I hope that god will grant them paradise. And may God grant speedy recovery to those who are injured.
I am not a very rich person.  But I am trying to donate some money.  I donated some money from my signature campaign payment today. Hope everyone will show interest in donating something according to their ability.
1510  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: T20 and T20I cricket prediction and discussion on: February 08, 2023, 09:51:21 AM
The 39th match of Bangladesh Premier League has started today at Sher Bangla National Stadium.  Khulna Tigers batted first and set a target of 113 runs.  Khulna Tigers batsman Mahmudul Hasan Joy scored the highest run in today's match.  And the rest of the batsmen could not score too many runs.  If Khulna Tigers do well in bowling now, there will be hope of victory.
Khulna set a target of 113 runs.  It is not a big target for Sylhet. Sylhet's team management has been very good so they will be able to cross this target very easily.  Sylhet has already crossed 30 runs after playing 5 overs.  I think Sylhet will complete the target given by Khulna within 16-17 overs and win the match. I have seen Sylhet play before, they play very well.  So winning this match will not be impossible for them.
1511  Economy / Gambling / Re: Any Casino Android software on: February 08, 2023, 09:45:56 AM
To ensure security and avoid counterfeit or scam applications that can deceive us, it is indeed a good step to download the application that has been listed on the casino site. What's more, right now there are lots of counterfeit applications that have almost the same features as the original application, so we have to be really aware of that.
If you are still not sure, it is better if you just play or bet directly on the casino website so that we can be sure and don't need to be aware of fraud.
There are lots of reputable and trusted casinos that we can choose to play or bet on.
I think that of course the application downloaded from the official website of the casino is definitely the best choice in order not to accidentally download a fraudulent, fake application.  But this is not the only way to get a truly verified official application in your mobile phone.
Since this is an investment place, it is definitely better to download from the official website without assuming any software. Because many scammers can clone an app and publish it on playstore.  If something like this happens, some kind of hacking tools can be installed automatically after downloading that app. Because hackers spread their nets in different ways. So it is definitely better to check whether an app is official or not while downloading an app
1512  Economy / Gambling / Re: Gambler Loses 1.4 million USD in a bet with lower than 1.01 odds! on: February 08, 2023, 09:39:02 AM
1 million dollar is a lot of money to some people but to other it has a small fraction which can easily be bet away or spent in a night out, but the we should also consider other factors that may have lead to this incident, first we should consider the gambler previous gambling history and how much he have won or lost in the past.
Money is relative to the wealth of the individual. For most, 1M USD is a lifetime of money, if not several lifetimes in some places. However, for the whales and the big players, 1M USD is just a change. It is difficult to understand for people who will struggle all their lives to make a living for their families, but there are people out there that will lose that amount and will not even blink.
You're right, mate. Only rich people can afford to spend enormous amounts of money, even for a single use of their money, for example, shopping.
But for those who don't have much money, having 1M USD is still a dream and we will feel frustrated if we spend it only on gambling.
That kind of money can provide for our living needs for many years for people who live in countries where the cost of living is not high.
We can only learn from what others have obtained so that we can take what is good to apply to us and leave what is not good.
in my country 1 million dollars can be enough to support me and my family for up to 10 years or more if you build a business at the same time, lol
but that's how rich people play when they want to get a little profit they dare to spend big capital and they don't think they will lose big money too in their bets
Even though the money is enough to set many people out of financial struggle for many years, there are still other risk factors that we must consider, such as risk of unplanned incidents that can eat up that money, and what is the possibility of one not losing such an amount into a bad business.

So ultimately we should learn just one lesson from this which is, setting limits to all that we do as it involves money it doesn't matter the level of risk, let's make it a principle.
A gambling addict never realizes how risky it is and how much money a single bet is good for. Then they think that betting a big account will give a big amount of return and they will become rich in a very short time.  But when he loses that big amount he can feel how big a mistake he made.  And thus many lose everything and end up in huge debt or commit suicide.
1513  Economy / Gambling / Re: What do you appreciate more Desktop or Phone on: February 08, 2023, 09:32:07 AM
For me I prefer Desktop base on the fact that desktop contain more,
If you talk of the screen size of desktop vs phone then computer screen is definitely a better choice for playing games and most preferably for indoor games.
Right you are. When considering screen size, the desktop will always come first because a mobile phone's display is below 7 inches maximum.  Another desktop screen is above 14 inches

and aside from that there are some Apps or software that can only be open by desktop only, and also designing etc.
The most casino site and apps that have mobile format work perfectly with phones and players can get the same level of entertainment as desktop versions, so there is no such thing as casino app that is not compatible with the phone unless those that doesn't include phone version in their software development.
Most of the gamblers are satisfied with using the website, so gambling site companies do not feel the need to focus more on apps development.  That's why we don't see apps of gambling sites as much
1514  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Fake paid promotions on Twitter on: February 08, 2023, 09:23:14 AM
Here is one example of kind of string operation done

https://twitter.com/coffeebreak_YT/status/1621581040539033603?t=Vy7hWZYrxK4mob8EeFMeHw&s=19

It amplifies the need for investors to do their complete research before investing in newly launched projects. Even the person you had been admiring or following on social media platforms can be just promoting a scam. So apply some common sense next time instead of blindly following the expert financial advice of these gurus. Another platform, where this abuse frequently happens is YouTube where creators promote number of fake projects.
Investment is always a personal matter.  And everyone takes only one idea from social media but smart investors always do their own analysis and don't just invest based on someone's advice and that's wise. Because those who promote a project or a product in exchange of money can never be completely trustworthy because they always promote a project or a product in exchange of money. So it is always better to do your own research and then invest somewhere
If someone ever invests with the help of others or social media, then it can be seen that he always has a lot of worries. I think if I lose all the money by investing with my own thoughts, I don't have any problem. And if someone's intelligence or social  Investing by looking at any site advertising from the media is often accompanied by the fear of losing money.  But if you invest with your own mind then you can reap a lot from here. There will be no chance of losing money later I think.
That is the point. Losing by your own knowledge is always better then depend on another guy knowledge. Social media is just a medium to get some ideas but social media post or any other source can never be reliable. Even if you make a mistake and face loss, you can learn something good from that mistake, but if you depend on others, you can never learn anything good. So one should always take any action through own analysis be it investment context or something else
1515  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Elon musk is for crypto or just for attention to boost Tesla, SpaceX? on: February 07, 2023, 12:08:13 PM
Someone who is good at seeing opportunities like Elon Musk, of course, will not waste the opportunity to achieve personal gain, Elon Musk sees that bitcoin can be an alternative to making big profits and that is why he continues to proclaim himself as a crypto lover and creates a sensation by accepting bitcoin as a tesla payments, I think what elon musk is doing is nothing but a trick to create hype that triggers an increase in the price of bitcoin so that when he feels he has made a big profit from the bitcoin he has then he will throw away bitcoin like what tesla is doing now, so is the hype which he continues to create for dogecoin and I'm pretty sure he has thrown away all the dogecoin he currently owns after making a profit.
Elon Musk is a smart person and he knows that Bitcoin has a big future so he has a big focus on the crypto currency because he doesn't want to miss the chance that he will make a huge amount of profit in the future.  Because he wants to be the richest person in the world by earning money from various places, he adopts such a strategy. For this he shilling the crypto currency at different times. And because he likes meme, he shilling dogecoin most of the time
Oh yes he is.
And somebody at Mcdonalds had noticed a tweet that Mr.Twitter has put up earlier in the day.

https://twitter.com/cb_doge/status/1618826036808159235

source: https://www.benzinga.com/markets/cryptocurrency/23/01/30597875/elon-musk-still-open-to-eating-happy-meal-on-tv-if-mcdonalds-accepts-dogecoin

He is very excited about Dogecoin because he likes  meme very much. And he has huge Dogecoin holdings.  So he repeatedly tweets about Dogecoin for shilling. If the price of Dogecoin is pumped, Elon Musk will make a lot of profit, so he always tweets about Dogecoin. And he is such a smart guy that he uses strategies to earn money from different places so that he is always on the list of the richest people in the world.
I think Elon Musk is an intellectual man. He is always thinking about how he can make money. But I made a lot of money by following Elon Musk's Twitter page. When he tweeted about Dogecoin on his Twitter page.  As soon as I saw that, I invested almost all of my money in Dogecoin. Within a few days of investing, I sold them after making a huge profit. I mostly follow the tweets of big celebrities.
Not only Elon Musk, everyone has the goal of owning a lot of money, but meanwhile Elon Musk has enough sources to earn money, so he is succeeding in using this opportunity to own a huge amount of money. If you got information from elon mask tweets and invested in some coin and made huge money from it then I would say its your luck because most of people have lost huge amount of money either by seeing elon mask tweets and investing while you say you made a lot of money.  It is not bad to say that it is your great fortune
1516  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Are you still holding your coins #btc on: February 07, 2023, 12:03:03 PM
None of the above, because mine remains partly, meaning I sold some of it and convert to some altcoins and also keep holding most part for longer Holding.

I will consider buying more if it dumps and will sell everything once the price reached out at least 50k before the halving and those are my plans.
It doesn't look like bitcoin will dump again it's slowly starting to recover now and it will probably cross $30k very soon so if you wait any longer for that dump you might not be able to buy bitcoins or at this point I'm a fool to have the bitcoins that I have  I sold them but can't afford to buy them again as the price has gone up so now I'm trying to save the bitcoins I got from the signature campaign. But I don't know how much I will be able to save this way
well it started the fall again yesterday and yes , today we are once again in red market as bitcoin shows weakness .

are we truly seeing some nice increase this whole 1st quarter? or we will be having a sight in lower market this February ?

lest hope that 30k will be accepted in the next couple of weeks ir before this month ends.
It is not sure that Bitcoin price will reach $30,000 by this February. But it is true that the price of Bitcoin will continue to rise slowly for now and we can expect to see a big pump of it very soon. But there is no guarantee how fast it will be, it may even take this year. But the current behavior of the bitcoin market doesn't seem like it could take a long time like a whole year so we should just wait and see how long it takes and if we don't have bitcoins then we should buy and hold some bitcoins in the meantime.
1517  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Will it be profitable for the business? on: February 05, 2023, 11:40:24 AM
What others do is convert their bitcoin immediately or on a daily basis to their own fiat, but most others just leave it and start holding it until they need it, whether it's a loss or a profit. They are okay with it. Though money is really essential to the business as you need to buy your product again to restock, so you need to convert it immediately if you don't want to lose money or if you don't want to gain profit from its volatility.

It is best to convert them to fiat as soon as he are received to avoid unnecessary fluctuations, as this is a very important amount for his business. For a long-term bitcoin investment, he can buy it with his fiat whenever he has lazy money to invest. We should make a clear distinction between capital for business and capital for investing in bitcoin.
Since this is a business, the merchant should convert to stablecoins as soon as they receive them, so that if the price of Bitcoin falls, it will not harm the business.  In this case, a customer can easily make payment using Bitcoin but there will be no loss to the business. But if the merchant can accept the risk then he can hold it in bitcoins as if the price of bitcoins increases then his amount will also increase.
1518  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Are you still holding your coins #btc on: February 05, 2023, 11:30:47 AM
None of the above, because mine remains partly, meaning I sold some of it and convert to some altcoins and also keep holding most part for longer Holding.

I will consider buying more if it dumps and will sell everything once the price reached out at least 50k before the halving and those are my plans.
It doesn't look like bitcoin will dump again it's slowly starting to recover now and it will probably cross $30k very soon so if you wait any longer for that dump you might not be able to buy bitcoins or at this point I'm a fool to have the bitcoins that I have  I sold them but can't afford to buy them again as the price has gone up so now I'm trying to save the bitcoins I got from the signature campaign. But I don't know how much I will be able to save this way
1519  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2022/2023 on: February 05, 2023, 11:26:48 AM
Maybe Arsenal hasn't forgotten about lose on FA cup and bringing it also on Goodison Park. As I can see how effective Everton center to lock and seizing the ball from the Arsenal player, it could be many goals created if the everton attacker sharp like Haaland. And, Everton player didn't also let the Arsenal player bring the ball and always fight body to body to snatch because of that many yellow cards for everton.

even so, I believe last night Everton will win with a new coach, and I have enough confidence to bet them for sure.



Arsenal must immediately introspect after losing to Everton, the bitter pill that Arsenal swallowed at home to Everton was the second defeat that befell Arsenal in the Premier League this season. Arsenal are still at the top of the standings despite having just dropped three points, but Arteta needs to be wary of the threat from Manchester City as the distance between the two is getting closer.
Everton played very well, even though before the match it was predicted that it would be difficult to get points from Arsenal, the struggle and enthusiasm of the Everton players had made Arsenal lose important points to get away from Manchester City. Arteta needs to encourage his players to avoid making the same mistakes in the Premier League to keep their chances of becoming champions this season.
It was a great fortune for Everton and the Everton fans who bet in their favour. It is true that the game of football occasionally sees exceptional events and this is one of those. Everton will never win against Arsenal based on team management and playing performance but Everton overcame that hurdle to beat Arsenal 1-0 yesterday which was truly incredible.
I placed a bet in favor of Arsenal in this match but I lost the bet. I can't accept it because I never thought that Arsenal would lose the match. I thought Arsenal would win the match but we saw the opposite. Very few people believed that Everton would win the match. Everton team. Arsenal despite playing well, they could not score any goals. Everton goalkeeper gave a very good service in the match due to which Arsenal could not score any goals.
I think most gamblers bet on Arsenal. There are many others who bet for both Arsenal and Everton. Gambling has both wins and losses so now you can't be disappointed with gambling losses. No gambler can guarantee that he will win all bets. So try to win in next batches.  If you win, your current loss will be recovered. Go ahead with courage mate. don't break down
1520  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2022/2023 on: February 05, 2023, 08:59:22 AM
It was a great fortune for Everton and the Everton fans who bet in their favour. It is true that the game of football occasionally sees exceptional events and this is one of those. Everton will never win against Arsenal based on team management and playing performance but Everton overcame that hurdle to beat Arsenal 1-0 yesterday which was truly incredible.
This is not the first time that Everton is doing something like this by taking a very strong team down, but if I should tell the truth, I would have never gone for Everton, I would have gone for Arsenal. Good clubs do have their bad time, especially in English Premier League that is the toughest league in the world. If I had bet that which club would win between Everton versus Arsenal, I would have just lost the bet, but I do not like taking away matches and even if I might have bet it, I did not have the time to bet yesterday.
It's a shame to say that I also lost bets supporting Arsenal.  I bet on them and was sure that I would win the bet.  But unfortunately I lost the bet.  It's a big win for those who bet on Everton who won the bet with high odds. However, one team can never always win the game.  Yet sometimes things happen that are hard to believe. anyway Good luck to Everton
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