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1501  Economy / Speculation / Re: Will we ever see bitcoin lower than 1000$? on: July 06, 2017, 05:21:01 AM
Theres no chance that bitcoin will go back to that price,  cause even there is a huge panic on the market bitcoin will still maintain the 2000$ above price.
Bitcoin will never go back to that price where it has come from. It is going rapidly upward in a global market. The prices are going very upward that's why people willing to invest into bitcoin instead banks. Bitcoin has changed the daily based life it has maintain and secured the position of 2500$. But latterly it will secured the twice of that but bitcoin is introducing small units where you can earn money.
Why we cannot see 1000 dollars ? Everything is possible to happen even bitcoin price today is 2500 dollars maybe possible to see 1000 dollars . Many people said in august 1 possible to see 1000 dollars but I hope the price will not decrease I hope I see bitcoin prive will increase. But we dont know what is the exact amount of bitcoin in the next few months. But if you see bitcoin price donw at 1000 dollars its better to buy more bitcoin.
Everything is possible but what are the chances of that happening? Besides August first is not the date we should fear, that should be the date when, if everything goes right, segwit will be activated, the real risk comes from the date the miners choose to try their hard fork.
1502  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: Bitcoin 'faucets' and 'free bitcoin' apps on: July 06, 2017, 05:17:45 AM
Bitcoin faucets are a waste of time in my opinion, they may come in handy to get a few startup coins but otherwise your probably going to get more bang for your buck elsewhere, or heck even winning prizes on freerolls on poker sites etc lol.
Faucets are not even good enough for that in my opinion, you will be better of getting a part time job and working for minimum wage, whatever that is in your country, and then buy bitcoin, even if you claimed from faucets for months the fees will eat most of your ‘gains’.
1503  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Is 1000 btc Possible on: July 06, 2017, 05:14:42 AM
Well, if trading, investing, researching and communicating with blockchain based project insiders is your 24/7 work for about several years, I believe it is possible without making insane gambles/all-ins on some speculative icos.
Anyway, I think it is extremely difficult and maybe near to impossible without a ton of luck in 2017.
It is not really impossible if you choose a good coin to invest in the crowd sale and you have the patience to hold for a long time you could see returns of 20 to 30 times your original investment, by doing this a few times you could get to those 1000BTC.
1504  Economy / Economics / Re: Who supplies us bitcoin? on: July 06, 2017, 05:11:18 AM
Bitcoin, in my opinons has had it up and downs, but who supplies us bitcoin? Faucets can only supply so much before it gets closed down. So that's not a big supplier. Working for bitcoin has declined. I used to make videos and earn bitcoins. But that site has closed down like every other sites or faucets. So who supplies us bitcoins nowadays? Tell us please!
I think you are mistaking supply with ways of earning bitcoin, the supply comes from the same people as always the miners, they are the ones that are able to get new coins in the bitcoin economy, but if you want to get bitcoin then you need to be able to create a product or service people want, so like you see this is not that much different to what you need to do with fiat.
1505  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Can cryptocurrency make real money disappear? on: July 06, 2017, 05:07:58 AM
I think real money would likely make crypto disappear 1st.

The reasoning behind this is, crypto may be more likely to be hoarded than fiat which could lead to crypto disappearing as its hoarded in greater quantities, while fiat is freely traded.

Eventually we will go to no money or just some sort of digital money, they will not be paper money. Think this as if we as society evolve trough history then money or should I say mean of paying has to evolve to. We might not witness this perhaps some of our kid or grandkids will, but this will happen eventually.
While there is no doubt that we are evolving to a society that issues its payment electronically, just look at bitcoin, it is impossible to completely erase cash since you still need the poorest part of the population to be able to engage in economic activities like buying and selling their products.
1506  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What is the best source of bitcoin nowadays? on: July 05, 2017, 07:47:30 AM
Apologies if this has been asked but what do people think is most effective way to earn more BTC? Mining, Trading, or investing in alt coin?
It depends what you mean by effective, but if you mean the method that can give you the most bitcoin, that is without a doubt investing in altcoins, if you do that you can easily make several times your investment in just a few months and by doing that and exchanging your money in bitcoin you can multiply your bitcoins many times over.
1507  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Where to learn how to trade on: July 05, 2017, 07:43:44 AM
The best exercise is actually making real trades. After you start to lose money, you'll learn how to not make mistakes but only successful trades.
While learning from experience is useful, the truth is that kind of learning is very expensive, that is why sometimes it is better to learn from books and by practicing without money, it is better to make the most of your mistakes when those mistakes are not going to cost you a cent out of your pocket.
1508  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is Bitcoin Sound Money? on: July 05, 2017, 07:40:07 AM
I think it's still too early to talk about this.
Crypto currency is still too young, but I think it has a great future.
I disagree, gold has been sound money from the beginning, fiat is not sound money from the beginning because governments can print it at will, bitcoin has limited supply and cannot be created at will so to me that makes it sound money from an economic point of view.
I strongly believe that bitcoin is like another currency, it depends on you how you call it, bitcoin is basically a form of money which value is increasing day by day. It also has created a strong ground where people are going to be connected with this system, from my point of view is that since Bitcoin is using as a payment tool in many ways so bitcoin can be considered as a money...

Among private users bitcoin has long been called money. But at the government level, bitcoin is not yet seen as money. It is more like a product, or some other asset that can perform some of the functions that perform the money
It is clear governments don’t want to call bitcoin money, because they are scared of it, but it does not matter if they do not want bitcoin to be money, that is the way people use it, that was the intention of the creator and bitcoin fulfills all the characteristics you will expect from money, so bitcoin is money.
Bitcoin is a currency or money and the reason why government doesn't want to accept bitcoin as a money in their country is, bitcoin is decentralized and that is why they can't control it, so if they can't control something then they can't generate profits from it so it is a very huge help in people to secure their money but a huge loss in government if all the people in their country will use bitcoin so they are trying to avoid it by making laws against bitcoin and also banning it from their country.
You are correct, but at the same time we need to understand that even if governments are necessary and certain amount of taxes are necessary the governments of this age have gotten too big and greedy, they will not stop until they are able to charge you taxes over anything and bitcoin is the first currency that gives the power back to the people of creating their own currency and governments don’t know what to do about it.
1509  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: We can't buy something with Bitcoin quickly on: July 05, 2017, 07:35:39 AM
For exemple, I go to a coffee shop, I buy a coffee, then I pay with Bitcoin, we have to wait for a confirmation, no? or the merchant will just trust me if I show my wallet?
How can we be sure that it's not a double spent transaction or something else?

They wont need that if they really know bitcoin.
It is not like Paypal that you could take it back. Once a transaction is in process it is good to go.
If only I got that business I would offer a bitcoin payment.
And as long you paid the right price it is good to go.
I dont even need your information because nothing bad would happen.
Hm? glerand, you said as if there were not any "Double spend" happened. If real shops do accept Bitcoin without any confirmation, some people will use that to do bad things. I think there should be some rules about Bitcoin fees, some minimum fees should be asked to make sure the payments will arrive.
Not possible, even at this point where the fees have gotten lowered somewhat, the truth is the fee you need to pay for a fast confirmation is simply too high, it could be possible the fee results to be higher than whatever you are trying to buy in the first place.
1510  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What do you think are the biggest disadvantages of Bitcoin? on: July 04, 2017, 06:13:04 AM
I think the disadvantages of having bitcoin is first, bitcoin is hard to understand for many people especially those who live where bitcoin is not yet legalize because even the government cannot recognize the real essence of this cryptocurrency to have a great impact to its economy and people. Also having a bitcoin to countries where it is not yet legalize is hard because it is still not accepted as a type of payment. The transaction confirmation really takes a long time that gets its consumer down to their nerve or simply got a little bit mad because of the long waiting.
I don’t think the legal status of bitcoin has to do anything with whether people understand bitcoin or not, in the technical side bitcoin is complex and most people in this forum, including myself, do no understand  completely the way it works, but bitcoin is very easy to use, make no mistake about that.
1511  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Buy more bitcoin or wait for August 1st? on: July 04, 2017, 06:00:31 AM
I'm certainly going to wait, I can only see it going one way in August and that is down, and when it does I will be snapping up more coins
If you are so sure of your prediction then you need to go for it, if I knew that a coin was going to go down I would sell all my holdings of that coin and then when the price got lower I will buy again at that lower price and get some easy profits along the way.
1512  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Why WebMoney always blocked my account!!!!!!!!!! Scam???? on: July 04, 2017, 05:58:34 AM
I don;t know why they block my account?? and my money can not get back. WebMoney is a big scam.

would you guys share me how to avoid being blocked? Can any exchanger share your experience with me?


How can I contact them? cause I chat with them on they are site thousand times but no any help to get back my money and account!!!



If they keep blocking your account then ditch them that is why bitcoin was created in the first place so you don’t have to suffer from the whims of centralized systems like those payment systems, use bitcoin and forget about all of those low quality services.
1513  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Paying airline tickets with Bitcoin? on: July 04, 2017, 05:56:28 AM
Hello guys!

I just want to ask if there's an existing offer already that accepts bitcoins by purchasing airline tickets to a specific destination? I'm an adventure type of guy, just finished my vacation last Monday. I usually travel like 3 to 4 times a year locally by plane.

Any thoughts on this guys? Thanks in advance.

If you are a traveler then bitcoin payment is a hustle for you because you can encounter payments delay, you just can cast-out your bitcoin then to avoid hustle for your travel.
It is a mistake to only bring one form of money to a trip, because you could easily suffer the consequences of something happening, like your cash being stolen, or your credit card being stolen as well, also your credit card could be blocked, so it is better to bring many forms of money.
1514  Economy / Speculation / Re: No need to panic guys! Here's why... on: July 03, 2017, 05:46:56 AM
If BTC price goes down we can get more coins! Come on baby make it $500 I won't mind!

If BTC price goes up...  Grin to the Moon of $100,000 we go! Be patient... your patience will be granted

You guys need to be more optimistic about Bitcoin in general..
I do not think optimism is the problem, the issue is patience not optimism, people want bitcoin to reach 10k on the next week and that is not going to happen, I will have no problem if it took bitcoin a decade to reach that price, obviously if it is faster I do not mind but most people are not ready to hold for the long term as we should.
1515  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: TEZOS ICO needs a maximum cap on: July 03, 2017, 05:43:11 AM
I think TEZOS ICO needs a maximum cap.
They want to start the ICO with no max cap.

They need investors, but the tokens will be worthless or cheaper on the exchange.
I want to invest but these terms are bad for investors.

Maybe its better for investors..??
Both ways to solve the issue have problems, if you have a cap the whales can take advantage of this and buy a huge amount of coins and not let anyone to get into the ICO, I think something similar happened to BAT where a single person bought a lot of coins, but if there is no cap then many investors can get in but the issue is that there is not going to be anyone to buy the token and the price is going to go down.
1516  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Is Ethereum a bubble? on: July 03, 2017, 05:24:23 AM
What is not a bubble? Value is relative to whatever people are willing to pay. For some reason, people usually pay more for exceptional offerings in any market.
Value is relative, as an example, while water is necessary for living we only need so much of it, that is why the value is low at the moment even if it is indispensable, however once the supply or the demand changes the chance of a bubble forming increases, simply because people begin to see an opportunity to earn money instead of considering something due to its usability.
1517  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoins and Bankers on: July 02, 2017, 12:56:00 AM
Recently, the banking system works very well with the crypto currency. I have already convinced my country that crypto-currencies will soon be implemented at the state level and the user will not worry about the legal aspects of this issue.
Well, in my country everyday have news talking about cryptocurrency and in next time, the national bank can use crypto as a digital cash for pay wage
and saving in Bank. I hope a day I can use Bitcoin buy any things and not need use Visa or real money Grin
If they do that you can be sure they are going to create their own version of bitcoin they can create at will, so just forget about that possibility, they will try to create those currencies in order to fool people and I’m sure many are going to fall for it, thinking they are going to get the best of both worlds and at some point they are going to get burned by their decision.
1518  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: Bitcoin 'faucets' and 'free bitcoin' apps on: July 02, 2017, 12:52:24 AM
Has anyone ever made a decent amount of Satoshi, e.g. 0.1 BTC, just by going to places that give out Satoshi and using those awful ad-apps that promise free coins?

What have been your experiences if you have, was it worth it for some Satoshi?

They all sound really scammy to me, and offer so few Satoshi that I wonder if anyone can ever withdraw it to a wallet, but I don't know.

Aside, if anyone's ever used BitMiner.io, what do you think of that?

Favourite faucets anyone if you use them?  I mean those that give them out rather than putting some in and waiting to turn it into more later.
Forget about faucets, faucets were never meant to be a way to make money, that just happened because the price of bitcoin skyrocketed, faucets were meant to teach you how to use bitcoin, but I think at this point you will be better just watching a video on youtube.
1519  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Can cryptocurrency make real money disappear? on: July 02, 2017, 12:43:53 AM
What are the chances of living in a world with no actual money ?  Shocked

That's a nice day though, where their wouldn't be any cash and people would only used cards or something like that. Seems pretty impossible though making fiat no being used.
It is still considered money even if it's in card form or if you are using modern technology to pay for something. What you might be thinking is a cashless society where no one needs to bring paper money and every transaction would be done digitally, be it online or offline. That day might not come soon enough as paper money is being produced more today.
A cashless society seems impossible to me, there is simply no way to not use cash, in first world countries this may be possible but the standard of living in other countries is not as high so people still need to use cash since they do not have access to bank accounts.

It all comes down to what you define as "cash". If you think about it we are more or less already in a cashless society with all these numbers on bankaccounts and gov's. and banks wanting ro remove paper money. Here in Sweden I barely ever hold any money in my hands anymore. Sometimes it sucks because it makes me feel like I lose control of the value of money. And if we only use numbers on a screen telling us how much we have and how much something costs we will lose sense of it.

I recently started collecting silver and it feels like that is one form of "real cash" as I can hold it and exchange it anywhere in the world for stuff. Let's see what the future holds though.
When I think of cash I think of M0, basically the part of money supply that is physical, so I do not consider numbers on a screen to be cash, it is important to use cash, debit and credit cards offer convenience but you are basically giving the bank complete control over your life.
1520  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Is 1000 btc Possible on: July 02, 2017, 12:40:05 AM
Is it possible to earn 1000 or atleast 100 bitcoins with trading Altcoins.If I buy some bitcoin at cheaper rate today and it's price goes up in future?Which alt you think has potential to make me 1000 btc
It is possible, but the most important part is how much money are you willing to invest to earn that amount of money, if you are not willing to invest at least 10 BTC, my opinion is that you should forget about such big earnings and try to get something a lot smaller.
Well, it is recommended to start with small amount because it is going to be a long journey to get that big number of bitcoin.
It's possible because there are people who already made that kind of success, as long as we continue to focus on our goal one day we will be able to get that amount and I believe if you know how to trade effectively, it will be more faster to get at least 1,000 btc.
It is important to start with low capital to learn the ropes but at the same time if you really want to maximize your income then the only thing we can do is to put more money into our trades, if you earn the 100% of a cent you still own nothing, if you earn the 100% of 100k then you are getting good earnings.
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