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15061  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can I use my small amount for GAMBLING? on: November 28, 2016, 03:23:53 AM
Anyone who has a btc either small or big amount can play gambling. For beginners, I suggest to bring only a small amount for you to be able to try gambling and know how it works. As you go a long and have fun of it in your spare time don't forget to limit your budget because winning is uneasy.
yes that is a fact that specially for beginner who have no experience in gambling is really important to start from a small amount to invest in gambling as there are is always more chance to lose your money therefore you should try to invest a small amount in gambling.

It is always good to gambling with small amount whether you are beginner or experience gambler, gambling is only for fun, if you use gambling for making profit then you will lose all of your money

Even I am already gambling for a lot of time I don't gamble anyway too much. I also bet small amount because I don't know if I can take it whenever I lose big amount of bitcoins as I gamble. So as of now, I am using small amount and tries to make it grow, sometimes I become successful with it and sometimes I don't.

Yes, gambling is just for fun! As long as we can enjoy our game even with the small amount, why not? Nowadays, I am really scare to bet with huge amounts. Everytime I want to bet with it, there will be a question in my mind...what if I lost? Thats why I never bet with big amounts and prefer to enjoy gambling with the small one.

Most of us are fearing to bet and lose big amount of bitcoin because that is not our life either. And if gambling is just fun for us we can just simply lose small amount of bitcoin and since we are not that too addicted with gambling. It's enjoyable to see that our small amount is growing as we play but sadly in the end we lose.
15062  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Bitcoin Gambling Investments on: November 28, 2016, 03:17:42 AM
These results re just pure luck, there s no way anyone ll see 1000 BTC lost by one single person again as it happened on Betking a few months ago. So these graphs represent PURE LUCK and nothing more.

gambling is always pure luck so investing in a gambling site (against the gamblers) is also pure luck. that is an obvious enough fact that everybody knows. but that doesn't mean you can not make profit in the long run. the only thing that you should do is to find a good site which is both popular and fair and then invest what you can afford to lose.
So there's no math in investing you mean? I guess not, we analyze that we have the edge so we invest, otherwise we will not invest only when it's base on luck and instead we gamble with our own money so when we win in can give good return.

No, gamblers always play until their last cent. Most people gambling will lose their money, we see all the time the house is making more profit than gamblers. If the players had a chance to make more profit than the casino, no one would like to be a casino owner. Only few lucky guys can make profit on casino and exit with more money than they came.

That is why it's better to invest on the casino bankroll, guaranteed profit (but not much anyway).

You are wrong. The profit is not guaranteed. In fact, the risk of profit is quite high for casino. However, with high risk, it come with high rewards too. Although the house edge is only 1%, the profit can be quite impressive. Someone already have got 35% profit just by investing for 3 months.

Don't just consider the highest profit site but overall profit from those sites is about 15% for last four months. 15% for four months is quite good profit, and they are in this good situation just because they diversified into few sites otherwise, some of them are -30%.

15% is already good enough if you are going to invest and you will get that for four months. You are even lucky enough to get that percentage of profit in a gambling site because there are some who are just earning 1% monthly and there are some who don't because that is depending to the profit of the gambling site.
15063  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to play gambling in a smart way? on: November 26, 2016, 01:29:14 PM
Smart way to gamble in my opinion is the self-control in the betting. We must limit the number of our bets and do not use the entire income just to gamble because it is very harmful. Just use a few percent of income to gamble. And if you run out you should have to stop and go back again when have income again.

And for every limitation you should just bet small amount always. Because if you will win with that small amount then that is going to be an achievement already. And if you will just lose with that small amount then that is just going to be a fine thing for you. Because you are gambling what you can afford to lose and that is smart.
15064  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2016/17 NBA Season on: November 26, 2016, 12:46:07 PM
Golden State Warriors vs Minnesota Timberwolves I think -14.5 is good option for Golden State Warriors because other under/over points can be risky there, Warriors will be at home court and they are destroying other teams, than I will place bet on -14.5 and that is good pick for betting on that clash.


twolves have been a major let down so far. I have lost the last 3 times I have bet
on them...

Especially the first half they have been bad. I may take the warriors in the first half.

I don't usually trust the talents on minnesota since they are not totally a strong contender and never been placednon playoffs since back then, and i would provably go to gsw in that match since gsw greater chance to win on that bout, but sadly i dont placed bets on this one since im so busy for my job, and cannot handle to watch and afford to bet if i cannot see some live result.

I did just trust wolves when Kevin Garnett is still on the team. Since I always follow KG wherever he goes, I'm thinking that wolves is just nothing. But still we may say that they will make a better play for this conference after their loses. Just don't place bet with them anymore if it has make your bitcoins lose by trusting them.
15065  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Do Bitcoins have Tax?? on: November 26, 2016, 12:39:55 PM
I think there is no tax imposed in bitcoin because it is not government regulated business the only things is low fee in every transaction to be made of each users.

But still government will be able to impose tax if they can see that it is a profitable thing in the economy of a country. But as of now, they are not recognizing it as a good type of investment so they can't really impose tax on bitcoins. And its better if they will just let bitcoin to be freely used without any tax, just transaction fees.
15066  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Where to Invest BTC? on: November 26, 2016, 12:09:53 PM
Combination of holding and investment. One part to keep long term waiting for price to get up. Another part to invest through trading or something to insure the number of coins to grow with time. And a lot of patience and cool head thinking.

but holding a bitcoin is also a investment itself because you have your money in bitcoin and waiting for its price to increase. by the way you have a good opinion and trading could be a good investment while you are holding you bitcoins but this will not only need a patience you also need a good knowledge in trading.

Yes by simply waiting for the price increase while you have your own bitcoins on your cold storage is already an investment together with your time being invested. But that's good way of investing bitcoins, doing a lot of investment at the same time will probably give you results. It's either profit, if you know how to manage it properly or fail if you can't even manage them at the same time.
15067  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is your gambling strategy on: November 26, 2016, 11:54:34 AM
I use martingale strategy it is easy but high risk.. need big bankroll Smiley
I don't know what is the best strategy..
You need a big bankroll for martingale but you also need big limits in whatever game you are playing in your favorite casino, but I think martingale sucks as a strategy because you only need a few losses in a row to never see your money again.
Big bankroll has no use in martingale. It will just eat all your funds until no one has left. I'd rather risk my funds in random betting than using it in martingale.
Martingale does not work we know that but having a bigger bankroll for those that use martingale has the effect of allowing them to double their bet more times and allowing them to perform the strategy for longer periods of time.

the growth of gambling is something far greater than the growth of the other, so the higher the growth of gambling the more higher the way we are to find a way to get the victory. so all gambling is not a bad thing to do, but without a good strategy and something that could control ourselves then everything will end in defeat or a big loss for all of us

Just simply tell your gambling strategy. And with that martingale strategy it is really not working at all and any strategy unless you have your own strategy on how you will manage your bankroll. This is one of the strategies that I can say, just learn on how to take a risk and don't always bet big amount so that your pocket will not be easily empty.
15068  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Betting on sport = gambling? on: November 26, 2016, 11:30:26 AM
betting on sport is the same as gambling because there is money for winner and beside that betting on sport is can be predicted than gambling games but it needs more info to predict.

Sports betting is a type of gambling and as long as you are putting your money at risk, that's gambling. And this type of gambling is not just basing with pure luck, you need to have knowledge for the teams that will have the match. That is an advantage for the bettors and many people are preferring to choose this game.
15069  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling problem on: November 26, 2016, 11:15:31 AM
The real gambling proplem is we always lose in gambling and we win by chance and it is by luck when we are going to bet in round if we are smart enough to know what will be the result for the next round then we can be rich and we can hooked up our looses on the past days that we've lost

If things happen as you have mentioned, there won't be any excitement in gambling. With gambling winning percentage is low compared to lose, so one need to have self control on gambling. Another thing most users at the beginning just because of luck wins but when days pass situation differ. So need to be realistic than dreaming big.

That's the saddest part among gamblers who always lose.. some of them don't know when to stop even they lose a lot of money. Dreaming big in gambling is really to impossible and it's one in a million.
Basically the problem is not dreaming big because you might even win with gambling but the problem is soon you will loose that money and that's why people say gambling can't be profitable in long term another problem is chasing our losses because when we are chasing then actually we make decisions in desperation.

The main problem in gambling are the gamblers who are not even know how to manage their money as they gamble. Because whenever they are gambling, it is just like there's no tomorrow when they are spending their money, risking it, playing yolo and doing bigger bets. And that is leading them to be prone more in losing and after that, another problem will come out.
15070  Economy / Economics / Re: What is the best way to invest/grow your Bitcoins? on: November 26, 2016, 11:07:06 AM
There is no fast way to get rich there is always risk involved either in investing or gambling , i personally think that the best way to grow your bitcoin is to invest because gambling involves more risks and you can always get analysis to help you predict the market

There is a fast way to get rich if you are a certified gambler and you luckily hit the jackpot but that doesn't make sense for it is just happening once in the blue moon. And what type of investment do you prefer to say that will be best way to grow bitcoins? As you said, all of them are risky.But for me, the best would be holding.
15071  Economy / Marketplace / Re: How to make 1 bitcoin in a month or 2? on: November 26, 2016, 10:53:48 AM
The most people that does use this forum, as well try get an income online hasnt several skills, those which has they sell their services, but the regular earner doesnt have those option, for us we can try and there is no easy way to achieve or get near those, for we be able to make such income we need to put our bitcoins at risk, can be trading, sports bets or forex, gambling inst a way atleast not for me, dice and slots games.

To get one Bitcoin a month wont actually be a problem for someone who already has like 30btc because I have seen someone wager as much as that in a gambling site so dont let us see 1 Btc as a mountain that cannot be achieved. I agree that it will be difficult to gather for some just coming into Bitcoin and want to earn it including me myself too. But its achievable with the right combinations as suggested by OP  above...
If you have an important amount of capital then making 1 or 2 BTC a month is not really that hard if you also have skills in trading, but I think is a mistake to try to get that amount by gambling since your chances of winning are very low.
Making money throughout gambling is not really a good idea, it may give you fast and big amounts but the assureness and guaratee isnt their always because you will eventually lose up those money or capital you have put in. 1 bitcoin is not easy to find and earn unless you made some good investments but realying on gambling wouldnt work in any way. Trading is much better choice.

This is just applicable to those people who are owning gambling sites and to those who have very high bankroll. But if you are just a normal person that aims and hopes that you will win and earn that amount with gambling then that is very impossible to happen. As gambling profits is not stable and most of the time percentage of losing is higher.
15072  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Is investing in mining still worth it? on: November 26, 2016, 10:45:21 AM
Right now, I'm planning to invest more or less $100 in HashNest since I've used their services before, but on a very very small scale.

$100 would get me about 1TH. Would it still be worth it? Based on some calculations, the ROI would be just under 90 days. Their prices are pretty stable.
I think yes. I'd manifested on that site abd I earn profit. More profitable if I am using less electric power cost.
I have invest $500 dollar on last month and now I'm gaining profit then put it in investment again.
Investing on hashnest is also a good thing though but it wont be a guarantee to last forever and also mining difficulty would be the  problem you will experience on the long run and you will surely notice it when your profits or earning will be lessen.If you do have the money and a low electricity cost on your country then mining would be a good move but suggesting a cloudmining site,i dont think so.

Even many feed back that has making it as positive cloud mining site. Still we can't remove the bad reputation of cloud mining. Just always learn from what happened from the past and we will all be guided. There are just some people who are willing to take risk in accordance for the possible profit that they can made from it.
15073  Economy / Economics / Re: What do you guess about he future of bitcoin? on: November 26, 2016, 10:35:37 AM
As the entire system is completely decentralized, everything looks uncertain and unpredictable. With trust and the learning about the backing technology can have a assurance that it has a good future as will continue to have a much better growing future.
I agree and bitcoin will become best choice for anticipation of chrash economic on every countries in the world, and for right now there are many countries that give their trusting in bitcoins are like India, Russia, Japan and other countries. They starts support, using bitcoins on their places.
it's a good start to massive adoption, I believe in the future we will become bigger and bigger and some of the countries who are not progressive will rely on bitcoin as their savings since they know the price will increase.
I think most countries are already trying to adopt bitcoin as an alternate way of currency which can process also through online.. and everyday a lot of people are getting more interested in getting bitcoin and that's why bitcoin community is getting bigger and that's good for all of us.
I think that is really such a good news, if bitcoin is accepted by the government, it will really promote bitcoin too much,  through this the confidence of the people will also increase, and will also help in turning bitcoin more stable and reliable crypto currency.

We can see that some countries can see bitcoins potential and plans to be accepted by their government. But there are some countries that will not allow bitcoin to enter their country and try to be used by their people because that can be a threat to them. So I guess, many will adopt but many will not adopt also.
They will give consideration in the future, when big countries adopt with bitcoins small countries will just follow. Therefore we should not lose hope as the success of bitcoin will also be our success. The future is great so don't hesitate to invest today.

The advantage is already in us and you are actually right with it, if bitcoin will become successful then blessings will also come to us as with that success. And let's just keep on supporting bitcoin for its adoption because we are all that uses it will help altogether to make the bitcoins success becomes possible.
15074  Economy / Marketplace / Re: How do you know when a site tries to scam you? on: November 26, 2016, 10:28:15 AM
we all know that its difficult to spot a scammer because they are very cunning.But we can take some steps to find scammers.

1.Most of the scammer will commit you to high returns for little invest.
2. They will ask for my personal information.My home address,phone number,fb account etc.
3.They will pressure me to take decision quickly or respond them fast.
4.legitimate organization wont make grammatical mistakes or rarely they do.But scammer will make this every time.
5.when i will asked some serious question they will stop me or tell me to be quite.

I think these are the reason how can i spot a scammer.   
Yes this is very true sign of scammers. Number 1 is the most obviuos act of an scammer. Offering you a very good and very high profits in your investment and They will make it scam. HYIP is one of them

Number once means nothing...
I promise nothing and although I'm taken for a scamer...

Your trust feedback will answer you for being taken as a scammer. And look at your signature about your system.
Code:
absolutly free investment system now,Impossible to lose
Where in Earth you could find an investment that doesn't need a capital? This is surely an act of scammer either and the next part, you are saying that in your investment it is impossible to lose? Oh, Come on.
15075  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What are the main problems bitcoiners face? on: November 25, 2016, 06:21:57 AM
Since every new site or new services are coming to earn unlimited money without hardwork So most of them are scam .
But in bitcoin only very less number is sites are legit .
And in bitcoin , I think no problem that i faced  but sometimes confirmation makes me worry .

I'm bit thinking about the new people who are getting to know bitcoins for the first time. Because these scam sites are keep on increasing.

So the people they are scamming and being there victims are becoming more and more as the day goes by.

This is I guess one of the problems that bitcoiners must be addressed.

Scam sites does have negative effects to bitcoin and makes user should be careful and do your own research before invest.
I think these kind of deception and hackers is the major problems that bitcoiners face. Moreover, another problems such as long confirmation wouldn't be matter as you can't cancel the transaction when it already sent.

Surely it does have negative effects to the whole bitcoin ecosystem. For example, a newbie and aspiring bitcoin users wants to try bitcoin as his investments but he is lack of knowledge and suddenly gets invited to invest to a scam site. So what happened is that he gets disappointed and doesn't want to try to invest with bitcoin again after he got scammed.
15076  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Buying Drugs with Bitcoin ? on: November 25, 2016, 05:29:33 AM
There's no perfect crime in this world and there's no secret that will not be known, using bitcoin to transact for illegal activities will only increase your chances of being caught but it would not guarantee you are safe with what you are doing.

If you use physical cash for an illegal transaction, then the chances of law enforcement officials tracing you sometime later is close to zero. But if you use Bitcoins, there is always a small chance, as all the transactions are stored in blockchain. Therefore IMO, Bitcoin is not as anonymous as physical cash.

I'm thinking how you can be caught by the authorities if you are using bitcoin if no information is needed to transact and use it freely. Maybe you can trace each transactions but you won't know who are the people involved on that transaction and you won't know if that bitcoins, is bitcoin drug money or else you are just going to speculate badly.
15077  Economy / Economics / Re: What do you guess about he future of bitcoin? on: November 25, 2016, 05:21:44 AM
As the entire system is completely decentralized, everything looks uncertain and unpredictable. With trust and the learning about the backing technology can have a assurance that it has a good future as will continue to have a much better growing future.
I agree and bitcoin will become best choice for anticipation of chrash economic on every countries in the world, and for right now there are many countries that give their trusting in bitcoins are like India, Russia, Japan and other countries. They starts support, using bitcoins on their places.
it's a good start to massive adoption, I believe in the future we will become bigger and bigger and some of the countries who are not progressive will rely on bitcoin as their savings since they know the price will increase.
I think most countries are already trying to adopt bitcoin as an alternate way of currency which can process also through online.. and everyday a lot of people are getting more interested in getting bitcoin and that's why bitcoin community is getting bigger and that's good for all of us.
I think that is really such a good news, if bitcoin is accepted by the government, it will really promote bitcoin too much,  through this the confidence of the people will also increase, and will also help in turning bitcoin more stable and reliable crypto currency.

We can see that some countries can see bitcoins potential and plans to be accepted by their government. But there are some countries that will not allow bitcoin to enter their country and try to be used by their people because that can be a threat to them. So I guess, many will adopt but many will not adopt also.
15078  Economy / Speculation / Re: will Black Friday have any effect on the price of Bitcoin? on: November 25, 2016, 05:14:58 AM
Black Friday doesn't have something to do for the fluctuation of bitcoins price. But still I can see that it can contribute to the price of bitcoin if:

Unless most of those people who will go shopping will use bitcoin as means of payment, then I don't think it will really push the price. Most of the shoppers use credit and debit cards to shop because of the quick transactions. If even a few of the merchants that will participate in the sale would accept bitcoin as payment, we are not sure if the shoppers would even consider paying with it, especially the ones who are not too familiar with bitcoin.

This is the possible way for Black Friday to have some effect for the bitcoins price.
15079  Economy / Economics / Re: How many coins did you have during the rise? on: November 25, 2016, 04:58:39 AM
During the 2013/2014 rise to nearly $1,400/coin, how many bitcoins did you have?

And do you regret not selling if you didn't?
Sorry but i do not have bitcoin in that time  And busy finding ways how to have money in real life. I wish I find bitcoin early so ican save some of it.
As I most invest my bitcoins in alt coins therefore I think there were not a good amount of bitcoins with me at that time. But still I am satisfied as alt coins also gave me good profit and now I have a decent amount of bitcoin in my wallets.

Good thing that you have something on that rise. But with me, I don't even have bitcoins way back that time. I wish I had maybe 20-100 bitcoins by that time and it will make me have enough for starting my own business way back that time. But still I need to move on and looking forward to the future for another rise and hoping that I have something holding by that time.
15080  Economy / Speculation / Re: BTC keep rise again... on: November 25, 2016, 04:44:54 AM
At the end of the year bitcoin price will totaly hit $800-$900 this is really great as far as we can see the bitcoin price is at range of $735 and he already broke the line of the speculation that bitcoin price will stock at $700 dollar we wish that in the year of 2017 bitcoin will be great and more expensive so that we can earn more.

This is my speculation also even though the price of bitcoin fall a little bit by I guess it is going to pump before this year ends. I'm even thinking if it is going to be able to reach to $1,000 or else let's just expect that it will happen for next year. And for the safe haven of bitcoin it will be stable to the price range of $700.
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