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15081  Other / Off-topic / Re: $10,000 dollar reward being offered + Flat earth and how it relates to Bitcoin on: October 02, 2018, 07:30:49 PM
Whats ironic is for all this flat earth retardedness to even get off the ground you have to make the ridiculous ASSUMPTION/LOGICAL FALLACY that Nasa is 100% lying about everything and controls ALL media, transportation,manufacturing, government, military and science outlets, officials and employees in every country across the flat earth.

You also have to assume that NASA has complete control over your optic nerves, since you can just look at the fucking horizon to see the Earth isn't flat.
15082  Other / Meta / Re: Is there any point in reporting spam megathreads? on: October 02, 2018, 07:27:29 PM
I don't know whether it's just down to trust or what

I just don't buy that. If we are that worried about assigning new moderators, then just start a few people with very limited power (say, deleting only newbie posts in a specific board only) for a probationary period, say a couple of weeks. Then move up to any posts. Then move up to moving posts to other sections. Then move up to locking threads. Etc. Etc. Even if someone suddenly went on a rampage (highly unlikely) and locked every thread in a board, then you can just demote them and undo all their actions. Or start some new mods in Off Topic. That board is a complete mess, and even if someone went rogue and nuked every thread in there, it would probably be an improvement. If they do a good job there for a few weeks, move them up to a real board. Or put a threat of temp-banning any new mod that goes rogue/does anything malicious.

But seriously, given the numbers of people who clearly care about the forum and spend hours of their time for nothing reading mind-numbing shit to report, I struggle to believe he can't find a handful of people to moderate. It's not a money issue, as he's previously stated about potentially dropping the forum advertising slot altogether. So I just don't understand why we are letting some boards be permanent spam fests with no discussion that most senior members won't even visit, let alone post in.

15083  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: EOS executives left Block.one, the company that developed the platform on: October 02, 2018, 07:10:20 PM
I cant read Chinese, but I did start a topic with a link to an English article regarding the collusion here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5040876.msg46339950#msg46339950

There is a serious allegation that the Chinese Block Producers are colluding and mutually voting for each other to establish their positions firmly as Block Producers in the EOS platform.

This is essentially what's happening. The Block Producers are using users tokens to commit voting fraud to lock themselves in to the Block Producer role, guaranteeing themselves an income of $10,000 a day in freshly created-out-of-thin-air EOS tokens.

With EOS you give BPs your money, and they use that money to make themselves more money, whilst your money is devalued due to the constant creation of more money for the BPs. It's insane that anybody who can use a computer would buy this trash.
15084  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Witcoin - suspicious ICO on: October 01, 2018, 10:47:39 PM
Their whitepaper contains plagiarism:



Source:

In today’s networked age, competition is increasingly over platforms. Already many OI and cooperation platforms play in the market. However, the successful set up and operation of an OI-platform could not be taken for granted accordingly the negative experiences were made so far. Simple databases where partners for technological cooperation are sought proved often to be inflexible and eventually unsuccessful. What are the online values that make a difference? Platforms also rely on the power of network effects — as they attract more users, they become more valuable.



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15085  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread (EPL) on: October 01, 2018, 09:39:03 PM
I think Mourinho will go, the question is when.

A loss to Valencia would mean almost certainly being knocked out of the Champions League after the second leg with Juventus. Does he go then? Or do they wait until a top 4 place is out of the question like they did with Moyes and LVG? Rumors are that he has already lost the dressing room. Maybe they can bring Big Sam in after Christmas to save them from relegation.  Grin
15086  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Vaccinated vs. Unvaccinated: Guess who is Sicker? on: October 01, 2018, 09:22:32 PM
It is now known that some children have a physiology which makes them unable to tollerate the strain of the increasing rate of vaccine injection due to mitocondrial differences in the nervious systems.

This just isn't true. Provide a single peer-reviewed article published in a reputable journal to back up this ridiculous claim. And none of your ramblings change the fact that lumbar punctures were not indicated.


As noted in Wakefield's defence to the rather obvious charade, he was not 'paid 55k' for this work.

So your defence is "he said he didn't"? Nice.


Also as noted, it was is partner Walker-Smith under who's supervision the testing took place, and he had clear ethical clearance to do the work.

That's not how medical studies work, like, even a little. You have to gain ethics approval from a specific medical ethics board, not just another doctor you are working with. This approval was not secured.


Gathering samples from within the blood-brain barrier is a standard way of understanding what has passed through said barrier and the physiology within.  'Doctor' (chuckle).

A lumbar puncture doesn't "gather samples from within the blood-brain barrier". The blood-brain barrier is entirely within the skull - you know, where the brain is. The only way to gather samples from within it is a brain biopsy. This is super basic stuff.


Actually it means that at this point you can paralyze 50,000 people to save 1 person from getting paralyzed.

Again, outright lies. The polio vaccine has a paralysis incidence of 0.0003%. So for 50,000 people to be paralyzed from it, it would have to have been given to almost 17 billion people. I'm not sure if you know this, since apparently you don't know the brain is in the skull, but the number of children in India isn't quite 17 billion.


Pertussis is NOT the one you want to use as a poster-child for your propaganda, and I've described why earlier in this thread.

We've agreed death rates were largely improving because of better healthcare in general. You are showing me a graph where introduction of vaccines dropped the infection rate to near zero. Again, that's an argument for vaccines. Now, here's a graph for you:



What happened in 1974? Unfounded fears about the vaccine caused uptake to drop, which was followed by an epidemic of pertussis cases and deaths, before vaccine uptake rose and pertussis cases fell again. And here is what's happening in the US now:



Uneducated morons like you, spreading your unfounded and unscientific fear, are causing pertussis cases to raise again. It won't be long before we see a nation-wide epidemic of at least one completely preventable disease.



Your entire post is a combination of about 50% easily disprovable lies and 50% complete ignorance of medicine, biology and physiology. It's a shame really - because you don't understand medicine at all, you don't even understand just how stupid the things you are saying are.
15087  Economy / Reputation / Re: BADecker might be state sponsored. on: October 01, 2018, 07:25:53 PM
He holds the record for writing the stupidest thing I've ever read, and I've read several Trump tweets.

Male circumcision on the 8th day after birth, improves the immune system of the infant so extremely well, that he can almost always stand the autism producing shots he was given at the hospital. It's when the circumcision is done too soon, like on the day of birth, or too late, like long after the 8th day, that the results are barely effective.

As others have mentioned, there is no point even responding to him. Either put him on ignore or just stay out of his threads.
15088  Other / Meta / Re: Racism and bigotry on: October 01, 2018, 06:10:51 PM
Yeah, as much as I'm all for freedom of speech, this thread is just trolling now. I would suggest locking it.
15089  Other / Meta / Re: Racism and bigotry on: October 01, 2018, 05:11:20 PM
I am not offended if he speaks for my personality but if he talks about the Qur'an and Muhammad S.A.W. I am very offended.

And it is your right to feel offended. However, that right does not allow you to impinge on his right to free speech.

Being offended is completely subjective. What offends you might not offend me. Some people are very rarely offended. Others become offended at the tiniest of things, like incorrect pronouns. You have no idea if your speech might offend someone out there. If it was "freedom of speech as long as you don't offend anyone", then no one could say anything ever. If you don't want to ever be confronted with potentially challenging speech or ideas, then you can never leave the house.

Also, and importantly, nothing happens when you get offended. It's not like some physical injury you have to recover from. "I heard an offensive joke, and it gave me an ear infection!" No. Nothing happens. It doesn't matter. End of story.
15090  Other / Meta / Re: Racism and bigotry on: October 01, 2018, 04:02:44 PM
don't talk about other people's religion withput ypu knowing about law, interpretation.

Damn Infidel.

I'm sorry, but if you are allowed to call him an infidel, then he's equally allowed to call you an animal, or anything else for that matter. It's "freedom of speech", not "freedom of speech that you agree with".

You have every right to feel offended, and you can use your own free speech (as you have) to insult and offend him, but you absolutely do not get to silence him.
15091  Other / Meta / Re: Enhanced newbie restrictions & requirements on: October 01, 2018, 01:53:13 PM
And kind of sucks that the hard workers among us can be bundled in with the spammers.

You say that, but having looked at the "Nextpakk" bounty that you are running, you are rewarding spammers. I looked at the first five or six accounts I could find that were wearing your signature, and their post histories all looked the same - 50% bounty reports and 50% generic one line spam replies, that add nothing to the conversation but are made only to reach your post count minimum. Not only are you not policing their spamming, but you are actively encouraging it by paying them for it.

If you are going to be a bounty manager that pays spammers for spamming then I'm afraid you are part of the problem and absolutely not a "hard worker".
15092  Other / Meta / Re: The new rule (1 Merit for Jr. Member) is already reducing spam on: October 01, 2018, 01:19:17 PM
-snip-

That's certainly an encouraging start. My worry is as hilarious pointed out - gaining 1 merit is easy. Even if they can't trade between alts, they can easily beg, buy, or plagiarize for a single merit. A 20% reduction is great, but only if it continues. As the system stands, that 20% will slowly fall as more and more of the spambies start to level up again. Not only would a 10 merit requirement reduce that rate of fall significantly, it would likely result in a further reduction of spam as many of the newbies still spamming in the hope of gaining 1 random merit would just give up entirely if they knew they had to reach 10, as well as knocking out many multiple account users who would not have enough merit to level up all their alts.
15093  Other / Meta / Re: Is there any point in reporting spam megathreads? on: October 01, 2018, 12:59:06 PM
That board probably doesn't need three mods

Nope, but it's a great example of what can happen when a board does have enough moderator time dedicated to it. Low value/meaningless/duplicate threads deleted before they develop, threads locked once the conversation is over, not a spam comment in sight. And how to spread this behavior to the other boards isn't some great mystery - we just need some dedicated sub board mods. We shouldn't be at the stage where I can tell if you've been busy for a couple of days because my number of unhandled reports keeps climbing.
15094  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Vaccinated vs. Unvaccinated: Guess who is Sicker? on: October 01, 2018, 11:18:29 AM
Autism doesn't suggest a neurological component?

Firstly, lumbar puncture has no role in the diagnosis of autism.

Secondly, even if it did (which it doesn't), he shouldn't have been doing them. Refer to my previous link above: "The study reported in The Lancet was completed under the cover of ethics approval for an entirely different study of 25 children", and that "ethics approval for the investigations conducted on the children reported in the study, some of them highly invasive (eg, lumbar puncture), had not been given."


Furthermore, since obviously not all MMR victims end up with damaged neurology there is something unusual about the mitochondrial physiology of those minority who do.  It makes all the sense in the world to study this in detail.

There is no evidence that an MMR recipient has ever ended up with "damaged neurology" as a result of the vaccine. There is no evidence that vaccines cause or worsen mitochondrial disease or indeed affect mitochondrial physiology in any way. Even if they did (which they don't), the prime target would be mitochondria present in white blood cells, and so a simple blood test would be better than lumbar puncture.


Except Wakefield had no financial gain.  But don't let that little logical problem get you to twisted.

Except the £55,000 he was being paid, which I provided proof of above.

So to summarize for the third time since you seem keen to ignore the facts - he performed risky and highly invasive tests with absolutely zero medical indication and without approval, all for his own financial gain.


Clearly what Wakefield had was a group of desperate parents begging for his help since he was researcher of some renoun in the field

Since he was a charlatan willing to makes impossible promises in return for their money. FTFY.


My dad had a spinal tap in order to rule out a bacterial infection.

In what way is this even the least bit relevant?


Or you might end up being the one person out of a billion who actually became paralyzed from wild-strain polio in that country over the last decade.

The reason the incidence of paralysis from polio infection is so low is because vaccination has cut the rate of new polio infections from half a million a year to 22. You argument is proof that vaccination works.


The mortality rates from all of your dreaded diseases was never anything like the calamity that you idiots are so fearful of.

Pertussis alone was killing 7,500 children a year in the US at its peak.


Many dreaded diseases such as scarlet fever which never had a vaccine developed for them disappeared also.

For scarlet fever, that's because we also developed penicillin, which, by the way, has far more side effects than vaccines. Why don't you rally against that instead?


Modern treatments such as IV and antibiotics can inexpensively drop mortality rates down significantly even if a person gets a particular 'vaccine preventable' disease.

"Treatments such as IV"? "IV" isn't a treatment. It's a mode of delivery. What you've said makes literally zero sense. Also, the majority of vaccine preventable diseases are viral, so suggesting antibiotics is nonsense.


Lots of things which are on the current vaccine schedule are piss-ant non-problems such as chicken-pox or mumps.  We all used to get them when I was a kid

Right. Except mumps can cause death, sterility, meningitis, encephalitis, pancreatitis and deafness. Just because you didn't get any complications doesn't mean they don't exist. To suggest otherwise is just plain stupid.



Your arguments read the same as every other "I've done my research!" type that I've come across. The arrogance of your kind is astounding. There is a reason that we study and work for years before we reach the top of this profession. You are churning out medical terms you don't understand because you've read them on some pseudo-scientific blog and think that a day of googling means your opinion is equally as valid as decades of research and evidence based medicine.

It's strange. I've never once had a patient google which induction agent they want, or had a relative come in to ICU saying they've "done their research" on lung protective ventilation strategies in ARDS, or had someone deny CVVHDF because of some blog they read - and yet, all of these things have much less solid evidence than vaccines. It's strange you conspiracy nuts would pick perhaps the most well proven medical intervention in existence to cry about.
15095  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Vaccinated vs. Unvaccinated: Guess who is Sicker? on: September 30, 2018, 11:07:58 PM
Some 'doctor' you are.  Lol!  You don't even 'read to good' let alone have a clue about how to hypothesis test.  The procedure was stated to ascertain mitochondrial function of neural tissue.

The pathological liar justified it by "stating" he wanted to measure CSF lactate, which may (but certainly not always) be raised in a mitochondrial cytopathy. Because of its poor sensitivity and specificity, CSF lactate is only used in patients that are suffering from solely neurological symptoms. As you clearly stated, these were "patients who had very clear gastrointestinal problems".

The standard test for mitochondrial conditions, especially if the patient is having frank gastrointestinal symptoms, is blood analysis or a muscle biopsy - both much less risky and much less invasive than a lumbar puncture.

He performed an unnecessary, unindicated, highly invasive, and risky investigation without approval for his own financial gains. He assaulted children. And you "admire" him. That's pretty low.

But you know, don't let the medical facts get in the way of your Google searches.
15096  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Vaccinated vs. Unvaccinated: Guess who is Sicker? on: September 30, 2018, 10:15:19 PM
As someone who has studied the Wakefield case somewhat, it is abundantly clear that Brian Deer simply made up stuff when he could not twist benign and obvious actions into something which could sound scary to the idiot class.  Something like 'highly invasive' procedures on 'innocent children.'

Wakefield was a gastroenterologist working with patients who had very clear gastrointestinal problems.  The use of a colonoscopy to diagnose patients with such conditions is standard.  Obviously by better understanding their rather unusual digestive tract problems the most effective treatment might be realized.

As a doctor, I am curious as to what the fuck you would call lumbar punctures if not both highly invasive and unnecessary, given they have no role in the diagnosis of gastrointestinal disease.

When I see someone like you parrot the propaganda with all of it's standard scary terminology used I always wonder if such a person is a willing part of a cabal program using new social media technologies such as troll-farms, or a typical conditioned minion who simply drank the cool-aid.  I suspect that it is usually the latter.

And when I see someone like you parrot arguments they really understand I always assume you are a "Facebook Researcher" with minimal, if any, education or training in medicine.
15097  Other / Meta / Re: Racism and bigotry on: September 30, 2018, 09:14:47 PM
Whatever happened to Hall's "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it"?
15098  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: What's are you expectations about cryptocurrency at 2020 on: September 30, 2018, 07:38:57 PM
That newbies will at least have the common decency to spam the right boards. Meta is for discussion about the forum only.
15099  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Vaccinated vs. Unvaccinated: Guess who is Sicker? on: September 30, 2018, 07:26:59 PM
These are the people I listen to mostly.  At least I put a high value on the information they bring because they have nothing to gain from providing accurate information...except perhaps their dignity and their souls

And you know, the money they are being paid by outside interests to publish their lies. And the money they will receive by using their lies to pursue sham legal action:

https://www.thelancet.com/pb-assets/Lancet/extras/statement20Feb2004web.pdf

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That the children who were reported in the Lancet study were also part of a Legal Aid Board funded pilot project, led by Dr Wakefield-a pilot project with the aim of investigating the grounds for pursuing a multi-party legal action on behalf of parents of allegedly vaccine-damaged children, the existence of which was not disclosed to the editors of The Lancet.

That the results eventually reported in the 1998 Lancet paper were passed to lawyers and used to justify the multi-party legal action prior to publication, a fact that was not disclosed to the editors of The Lancet.

That Dr Wakefield received £55 000 from the Legal Aid Board to conduct this pilot project and that, since there was a substantial overlap of children in both the Legal Aid Board funded pilot project and the Lancet paper, this was a financial conflict of interest that should have been declared to the editors and his co-authors and was not.

And all he had to do was subject some innocent children to "highly invasive" procedures without ethical approval. There's another term for in the medical community for sticking needles in patients without their consent or approval. It's called assault. This man assaulted children for his own financial gain.

He definitely sounds like an honest, stand-up guy. Someone whose opinion you could definitely put a "high value" on. Roll Eyes
15100  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: EOS executives left Block.one, the company that developed the platform on: September 30, 2018, 05:09:09 PM
Then when it eventually burns to the ground, we can take double delight in having warned people and made something off our warnings too.

I agree with your sentiments except this part. Although I'm obviously happy when these scams fail and fall to zero (and EOS will), I feel nothing but sadness for all the people who invested in it.

A lot of these people are from less developed countries and are poor. They have their heads filled with stories of 100x returns, and they see a path to financial independence, a path otherwise unavailable to them. And so they jump on it with no research. These are the people who are losing out. Meanwhile scumbags like Larimer add another couple hundred million to his net worth off the backs of the poor.

It's a sorry state of affairs, and crypto as a whole is worse for it.
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