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Each exchange has its own fees
AbuCoins
Binance
Bitfinex
Bitlish
Bithumb
Bittrex
Bter
Coinex
Cyptobridge
Cryptopia
Hikenex
HitBTC
KuCoin
Kuna
Latoken
Poloniex
Tidex
YoBit
So many exchanges out there but does anybody know the fee they charge to list a coin?
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The investors aren't disappointed anyway, we bought the tokens for $1.1 and sold them for $20 in September 2017. And we're happy.
Those who purchased tokens and put them on hold for the higher rewards cards might think otherwise. You are not an investor you are an ex-investor so you being happy or sad means nothing. Those that invested in MCO when the price was riding high near $20 and find it now at $7 might well be frustrated at the fact these people running Monaco still have not launched a product that people can use and generate money a year after the ICO. Even if they launch the card and have a working product it sounds like a scam to me because it costs way less than a million to launch your own prepaid VISA card business and these people with questionable pasts especially (CEO of Monaco) Kris Marszalek had access to $26 million raised in Ethereum from the ICO at the time in mid-2017 but that would have equated to around $ millions more in January 2018 when the price was sky high even after "development" and "admin fees" Wow this has scam or semi-scam written all over it  |
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https://steemit.com/monaco/@montehansen/beware-of-monaco-visa-ico-s-managementThe press release states: Beware of Monaco Visa ICO's Management
I think I can kiss my meager ETHer investment good bye fortunately mine was merely a test transaction. I suspect others that read this won’t be so lucky.
My wife's spidey sense first tingled when going through the token purchase process on their website and was advised that residents of USA, Singapore, India and Hong Kong are excluded. During a chat session they would not say why or otherwise comment. I chose to ignore the question and indicated that NO I was not a resident of these countries and purchase a small sampling. Now my wife’s spidey sense was really tingling and I decided to dig much deeper.
Turns out the CEO of Monaco, Kris Marszalek, and 2 of his other senior executives held similar positions in a the company Ensogo. This company was forced to shut it doors middle of last year (2016), and suspended by the Australian Securities Exchange (ASX). They are being investigated for fraud and there are many looking to collect.
“On June 21, 2016, Ensogo announced that it will shut down all South East Asia operation (including Hong Kong) and its CEO Kris Marszalek has resigned;”
"it also requests ASX to suspend shares trading. The unprecedented shutdown affected operations in several countries; workers in Singapore found the office was closed, Hong Kong sellers call for police investigation of fraud and certain stores in Thailand rejecting deals purchased by consumers, though the Consumer Protection Board is expected to summon Ensogo executives for remedial issues."Wow. Monaco raised a mind-boggling $26 million in its ICO just over a year ago and gave nothing apart from an iphone/android exchange app that any Indian or Chinese dev could make for a few hundred dollars and a purchase of the crypto.com domain name for several million dollars. These people with highly questionable pasts are enjoying the high life on the investors money Over a year after the ICO still no VISA cards have been shipped out. Such a shame investors were duped in to this ICO.
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They can do what they want with the $26 million they raised in ICO. We gave it to them without question. At least they are doing what they can.
No they cannot do what they want with the $26 million they raised. The funds were not raised to buy domain names but they will cite is as "development" needs. Monaco team are a bunch of fools for holding the investors hostage for over a year with no cards sent out and the investors cannot even do anything to take the Monaco team to court. Pathetic. Monaco team should be ashamed of themselves. |
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Why spend your time on a coin such as Moon Coin? Your time and efforts will be better spent on a coin that has potential to make you some profit at the end of the day it is all about money  Maybe all the efforts going in to this failing unwanted coin could be put in to a new coin or new project. I still think that everyone in this world has their own. It seems that someone that is more to your liking, that such coins and buys. Here, too, who likes the coin, he buys Mooncoin and I do not see anything strange in this. You are right everybody has their own likes and dislikes |
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Hi Moon bro's, I come to present a project proposal. Physical Base Mooncoin Brasil Office, made to assist the population in the use of Mooncoin in all its utilities.
High-quality office, and leave it active until March 2019 with a pattern that proves to be a solid activity with credibility. I have notion that it is a significant amount, so I would like to make a simple list that justifies this value. It is not possible to use another existing office in operation with some type of agreement for legal reasons.
Large Monitor. to connect pc or notebook to people with limited vision
Pc basic, new. to show how to use Moon windows Basic, new laptop. to show how to use Moon linux
smatphone basic, new. To show how to use Moon Android
Old, used Iphone. To show how to use Moon IOS
Monitoring camera (security)
Nobreak (we have unstable electrical network)
2 First Class Chairs
1 quality collective waiting bench, or large sofa to be used One meeting
conference room X large banners on Moon (between 4 to 8 depends on the interior of the place being rented)
'1 Signature' beautiful and great for the entrance
1 Large fire extinguisher
Office Standard Thermal Bottle quality fan - hot stations, sensations, up to + 50c
small heater - cold seasons, thermal sensations of up to -4c Business cards
advertisements in the local media High-quality router for people to connect and ask questions (China's low-quality cell phones popular in Brazil need better router quality)
Clay Filter (Brazilian drinker)
Leave an X amount of Mooncoin to be distributed in the Physical Base.
Vacation Rentals
Executive uniform for the volunteer to stay in business
Quality internet monthly
energy / water
Operating license (required for every place that works open to the public) + Monthly extra charges for a company open to the public
Coffe + basic office supplies (paper, stapler and small things)
With this kind of high-standard office assembled people will go there for real interest in learning more about Mooncoin because they are seeing porsperidade in Mooncoin. There are many people in the city who are potential users of Mooncoin, merchants, coffe farmers, business owners, tourists, civil servants and more. It is worth noting that it is a city of 12 thousand inhabitants very well structured, based on agriculture and tourism and with great levels of social welfare. It was given the idea of using some existing office to be the physical foundation of Mooncoin, but by law would not be legal. It would not be possible to use part of a member's house as an office, since no member owns a house, they all live with their respective families. I did not put the price of things because although the Brazilian government presented a small inflation officially, in practice the price of everything is climbing, high of the dollar, corrupt government and more. Everything will be 100% within the legality, without negative aspects.
The Mooncoin Brazil projects are run from and donations, as can be seen in the post history here at ANN
Cost required for project to be executed 10k usd (1.57 BTC or 21.1 ETH for exemple)
The Mooncoin Brazil projects are run from and donations, as can be seen in the post history here at ANN
BTC Adress
114jt5SLoot1fVdb1GFyAbx4Sobtvmk45T
ETH Adress
0x7E026634314ac8458b062D204435890AE77594B2
I love it. Can it get any better than the desperate post above the sort that only Mooncoin and a few others can bring? The user above loves Mooncoin so much so that he only uses BTC and ETH addresses  |
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There are so many Bitcoin address, wallet and merchant providers out there so how did Coinbase manage to get hundred of millions of dollars in funding? Even as recent as August 2017 Coinbase raised another $100 million in investor funding: https://blog.coinbase.com/coinbase-raises-100m-series-d-led-by-ivp-f5f25cb51019So why is Coinbase considered such a viable investment for investors rather than other similar products? |
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Monaco Card and the Monaco team are pathetic. useless.
With $26 million from the ICO they could not even manage their or launch their own product.
Now these funds turned into hundreds of million dollars but no clear direction for future for this project. I don't think in future people will be able to get access to their cards and on other hand no update from dev what is current status of development and no hard date on timeline. Those funds will most probably be spent in inappropriate manners by the team that has taken advantage of the funds raised in the ICO. No timeline, nothing. |
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So some news about their cards? There are not many altcoins which offer creditcards, most of them scammed their investors, like HashCard. I have ordered MinexCoin card, so hope this will definetely work  . MinexCoin seems to be getting good review but have they actually sent cards out? |
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CheapAir dropped Coinbase as their payment processor few days ago and decided to use BTCPayServer instead so we're definitely in the right path. It's just a matter of time until open source and decentralized projects will take over in the crypto scene, centralized services will become obsolete.
CheapAir probably dropped Coinbase because of the 1% fee that Coinbase charge but that is after the first $1 million in transactions if memory serves me correct. I tested their service, CheapAir offer Bitcoin, Bitcoin Cash, Litecoin and Dash as methods of payment. For Bitcoin Cash, Litecoin and Dash the QR code is genertated on https://gateway.gocoin.comFor Bitcoin the QR code is generated on: btcpayserver.cheapair.com Seems like the team implementing the plugins are not making full use of the facility that BTCPay Server provides. Why on earth would they use two plugins, one that is effectively free (BTCPay) and the other (Gocoin) that they pay merchant fees to? |
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Why spend your time on a coin such as Moon Coin? Your time and efforts will be better spent on a coin that has potential to make you some profit at the end of the day it is all about money Maybe all the efforts going in to this failing unwanted coin could be put in to a new coin or new project. |
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For me, I will choose and I also think bitcoin is the best and it will continue to be the most dominated, most valuable and most potential coin in crypto and no coin will be able to beat it because it has more experience and it is also the oldest crypto.
The Bitcoin team are doing a good job too. I trust Bitcoin more than Bitcoin Cash. |
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All of these pre paid card ICOs seem like junk, give me $30 mil and I'll make one too lol.
Exactly I agree. I think they raised $26 million at the time in Ethereum but just 6 months later in January 2018 the crypto prices went sky high so not idea what the peak was but with $26-$30 million anybody could launch a VISA card. Monaco Card and Monaco team are pathetic, useless. |
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Monaco Card and the Monaco team are pathetic. useless.
With $26 million from the ICO they could not even manage their or launch their own product.
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 BTCPay Server: https://github.com/btcpayserver/Could this spell the end (or be the beginning of the end) for payment processors such these: Gateway Acc Fee $2,500 $5,000 $10,000 $25,000 Bitpay YES 1% $25.00 $50.00 $100.00 $250.00 Bitcoinpay YES 0.8% $20.00 $40.00 $80.00 $200.00 Coingate YES 1% $25.00 $50.00 $100.00 $250.00 Coinpayments YES 0.5% $12.50 $25.00 $50.00 $125.00 SetGetGo NO $1.66 $1.66 $1.66 $1.66 $1.66 So the most appealing to an ecommerce merchant from the above list would be SetGetGo simply because they charge a fixed fee of $1.66 regardless of the amount of transaction (final fee the customer pays at checkout). The problem with SetGetGo is that their pricing structure fails when merchants offer micro-payments. For example if a merchant sells an item for $1 then how can they pay $1.66 to SetGetGo as they would make a loss. So while it might suit any ecommerce platform that have minimum amounts to checkout to use SetGetGo the margin between using Coinpayments (the lowest fixed fee from the list above at 0.5%) and SetGetGo (fixed $1.66 fee) is the breakeven point: A rate of 0.5% of $334 a customer will pay using Bitcoin at checkout is = $1.67 therefore anything above $334 makes sense to use SetGetGo. Anything below a $334 final checkout amount for customers using Bitcoin will be better to use whichever plugin works for your cart (Coinpayments at 0.5% is the lowest) I have not carried out any research on reviews about the level of customer services and withdrawal fees for any Bitcoin merchant providers, I have only taken transaction fees in to consideration only so for further information you will have to do your own research. Which now brings us to BTCPay Server. Is it a real game changer? First of all this is how BTCPay Server works: (taken from a Reddit post) Think of BTCPay as a server which allows you to accept bitcoin without intermediates. The payment processors act as a server as well, but your customer's data, IP addresses go through them. Furthermore, most of the payment processors hold your crypto payments, and you’d have to withdraw it or convert it, similar to what exchanges do.
Benefits
You are running a full node and helping the network
You are protecting the privacy of your customers
You’re using Bitcoin the way it’s supposed to be used, p2p, directly
You’re avoiding fees that all payment processors have (monthly subscription/fees per transaction usually 1-2%)
You can accept payments directly to your hardware wallet (currently integrated with Ledger very well) and you’re the immediate owner of those assets
You can be a host and help other smaller shops accept payments through their stores
You can accept other cryptocurrencies through BTCPay directly (Litecoin) and over 40 currencies if you enable shapeshift integration
You will be able to accept Lightning Network payments
Multiple merchants can have the same server and host their stores there, though this raises the issue of trust
Disadvantages
It currently costs around 50-70$ per month (the cost varies depending on the server you’re using, it can be as low as 30$ )
It takes a bit more time to setup and configures to fit your store needs, (took 3-4 hours for myself, I’m not particularly tech-savvy).
You can not convert to fiat currency right away like with some payment processors, though in my personal opinion, the immediate conversion ruins the whole point of accepting bitcoin and does not increase the adoption.
How BTCPay works?
Currently, there are three basic elements of the puzzle:
The server
The plugin
The wallet
You’re running your own server which has the full node running; the server is called BTCPay. Once installed it will be connected to your website subdomain. The plugin connects your server to your Woocommerce Store. In the plugin settings, you can set most of the stuff. A bit more advanced setting can be configured on the server. Your receive payments to your wallet (it’s possible to configure Ledger Nano S right out of the box).
This means that the buyer, pays directly to you in cryptocurrency and that the payment does not go anywhere else, the IP address is not leaked, the buyer data is not shared with a third party in any way. You will see the payment in your ledger wallet.
BTCPay is not the only solution to accept cryptocurrency directly, but after months of trying out, I found it the safest and the easiest to configure.
List of merchants using BTCPay
9bravos.com
bitcoinshirt.co
Coincards.ca
CryptoAsylum.com
halongmining.com
ludvigart.com
ynotek.com
Useful Links
BTCPay Website: https://btcpayserver.org/
BTCPay Server Test page - feel free to connect your store and test it out
BTCPay Slack: https://slack.btcpayserver.org/
BTCPay Github: https://github.com/btcpayserver/btcpayserver
BTCPay on Twitter: https://twitter.com/BtcpayServer
BTCPay on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCpG9WL6TJuoNfFVkaDMp9ug
On their Github is shows the following coins as being accepted alongside Bitcoin:
BGold
Dogecoin
Feathercoin
Groestlcoin
Litecoin
Monacoin
Polis
UFO
The coins are optional, QR codes are generated instantly by clicking the coin icon. I have not looked at how the ShapeShift integration works. According to the Reddit post it might seems optional but it does not seem to have an affiliate link on rollover or URL when opening ShapeShift. Personally I read so many negative reviews about ShapeShift I decided to use Changelly the few times I needed to. When clicking ShapeShift it opens a new pop up and allows customers to swap their coin to the method of payment with ease. Maybe will not look so smooth when using a mobile/cellphone with limited screen size. I am using a PC so have a larger screen to view.
BTCpay has a great looking UI and had lots going for it. According to their Github they have plugins for:
WooCommerce
Drupal
Prestashop
WHMCS
If they release plugins for Opencart, Zencart, osCommerce and Magento then basically they have the main players. With the majority of ecommerce websites running on Wordpress/Woocommerce they already have taken a huge step forward to offer a massive percentage of ecommerce traders with their already released plugin.
Have your own personal transaction fee free Bitcoin payment system by paying for an MS Azure running your node versus Using a third party payment plugin and not paying any MS Azure server fees to run your own node but instead paying transaction fees and/or withdrawal fees from your merchant. Either way you will spend money as merchants, if not in advance for the server/node then later after transactions take place.
So what are your views of innovations such as BTCPay compared with older crypto payment processors?
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Bitcoin cash is one of the most controversial coins for me, as I understand that this is an extremely unstable coin and it is simply inflated out of the blue, but on the other hand a lot of this managed to earn good money.
Yes what you say seems true |
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ICO holders are little fish compared to the big picture of the whole project. Watch they get big funding and they will pay attention to them.
I have no idea what your statement means. Are you complimenting the Monaco team and project? Or are you feeling sorry for the investors who parted with $26 million on a string of promises over a year ago none of which have come true? |
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Well, If you think it's so simple, why still no one has solved this problems. Because it's not so simple.
hardfork?
What you mean? In order to make hardfork you should have a working and better technology to attract users and more importantly developers. Or you should be smarter than Vitalik Buterin. Else is empty words.
Off-chain?
Plasma itself representing a sidechain. It had been a year and plasma still under development.
Copycat?
Of course there's lots of projects who tried to present their own solution. As Igor Lebedev said, the one who will solve this problem first will be the winner in this competition.
What is Plasma when incorporated into blockchains? Well, to cut a long story short, Bitcoin's Lightning Network designed for fast and cheap payments. So, Think of Plasma like a LN but for smartcontracts. Thank you Bavaria that is about as short and as simple as it gets when it comes to the explanation. So if implemented is Plasma going to be specific to just one coin or many? If so which ones? |
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Why spend your time on a coin such as Moon Coin? Your time and efforts will be better spent on a coin that has potential to make you some profit at the end of the day it is all about money |
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well the first time it was coin exchange itself who made me really sick !
You get in a mental state when an exchange tells you when you lose 1000's of euro's thats unfortunate for you!
if you lost 10000 euro because some kind of shit!
those people in real life would get a fucking bullet in there Brain for stealing money.
all coinexchange says its unfortunate for you
now were a few months further and again same shit same storie's
if you lost a few grand what would you do if those wankers tell you it unfortunate for YOU
and overall Let's You wait Weeks to give you any fcking anwser if you get any at all!
now after fork and the closing of bluetrade dealing the mooncoin
people here and on the mooncoin site said Coinexchange has the right wallet so there will be no issue's
YET AGAIN MAINTENANCE and its for weeks again
well i know one thing those people deserve a fcking rope around their fucking necks and should be deletet from planet earth!
I can understand and sympatise with anyone in your predicament. When coins are stuck and you cannot exchange them or add to them and cannot withdraw them either then that is very bad conduct by the exchange if goes on for so long. |
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