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15161  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Just purchased a ModMiner QUAD... on: April 23, 2013, 01:22:44 AM
I just bought a ModMiner QUAD from www.btcfpga.com and was wondering what flavor of linux will be best suited for running this miner?

Any help is appreciated!
-battmann

And now that website is down.

www.btcfpga.com
15162  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Police State? on: April 23, 2013, 12:00:35 AM
I guarantee you the words "we finally get to use the APC" were uttered at least once.
I submit it was probably more like "We finally get to use that worthless piece of shit" and "Hell with it.  Watch me, I gonna hang on the outside.  You dudes can squeeze inside that motherf-"
Probably all three, with this thrown in:

"But you said I could shoot the dog!"

This is probably pretty close...

"Listen up, you pussies.  These fucking assholes got us pissed off so here sum ground rules.  If it barks - shoot it.  If it squeals and mumbles, cram your boot on it's neck until it fucking quiets down.  And if it runs, target practice time."

It ain't nice guys - but it ain't a police state...
15163  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Civil War in America and Bitcoin on: April 22, 2013, 11:47:17 PM
It isn't the Illuminati.  It is the Inebriati that are in control.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIv96reVlAE
All'l drink to that!
15164  Economy / Economics / Re: We need to break the loop FIAT->BTC->FIAT on: April 22, 2013, 11:42:28 PM
....me just trying to figure out how to stabilize bitcoin so that it can be used as described, It obviously was supposed to spread the wealth among the population, with greater and greater automation occuring the wealth of the world is being concentrated into the hands of the few causing massive inflation and instability in the economic system., the p2p Bitcoin system was supposed to counter that. ....
Man, that crazy talk.  But I'll play.

Please support the claim with direct quotes from the source.

The proof-of-work(facts) also solves the problem...

What your lengthy reply was was an iteration of the general theory of and use of bitcoin.   What it was not was support for your person opinions which I commented on and which I repeat in part.

It obviously was supposed to spread the wealth among the population, with greater and greater automation occuring the wealth of the world is being concentrated into the hands of the few causing massive inflation and instability in the economic system., the p2p Bitcoin system was supposed to counter that. ....

By the way, I'm NOT criticizing your opinions.  I'm just saying they don't follow logically from the bitcoin model.  Neither do we have direct evidence to support your views.  Such as "Nakamoto SAID..."

No, he didn't say.

No, it does not follow.



Sorry... I got carried away with something else I noticed in it, I encourage people to question me, I learn better that way.

I was reading Satoshi's paper to find all the peer to peer references, this is what I was thinking of... why didn't Satoshi just use a encryption for each coin in circulation with a Trimmetric Encryption, three keys.  one for the bank that owns it assigning them as the Institution in possession of it, a public key for transferring it between institutions and a third key that would be an extra key assigned to the possessor of the coin?
 
Since the system is running from the banks you would have to connect to your bank sooner or later. Since every single coin is encrypted and never leaves the bank and just hops from bank to bank with new encryption keys at every level no need for peer to peer communication. and each coin is encrypted so it becomes really insane to try to steal a large amount of them, you could only rob one person at a time and even then you have to break the bank branches encryption to get rid of which bank owns them not to mention re-assigning it to the attackers institution; plus if the banks Firewalls/Network has no record of that coin, it can effectively deduce that it is a fake; and it scales too, you can add as many keys as you need for multiple parties, making it extremely difficult to falsify.

I can show you how but I won't; I like Bitcoin.

there are a lot of ways to re-invent the wheel and keep it completely centralized.

 If he had done that it wouldn't of had to be Peer to peer, anyone trying to break the individual code of each coin would find it inpractical to do since it would take weeks just to falsify 1 coin.

i simply deduced it from all the mention of peer-to-peer that's all.

My thinking is; Why would Satoshi program the client to pay out a standard fee of .0005BTC for every transaction? I think he wanted to spread the wealth and figured the transaction would number in the quadrillions.

This is simply speculation on my part, guessing, trying to understand what this Person or Group did. I just can't imagine them doing this and thinking that people would expend resources for free...why would they code it in there?

I love this community! Bitcoin is so deep on so many levels! so many puzzles!
OKay, I understand this commentary quite well.  This follows a from b from c and so forth.

My thinking on the transaction fee would be just to place a small incentive on peer to peer database maintenance.  Why didn't he include banks?  We could conjecture that he found them to have been and be capable of being subjugated to the will of the powers of state (even in cases where the banks are not owned and operated by the state - many countries that is the case).

Let me continue this line of thought a moment.  If banks had been involved in the equation, would you or any one on this forum be here now?

NO!!!

So the rule set would then have had to be top down implemented by a government or the UN or some such corruption.  And they will try to do this - they will try to implement electronic money.  But the problem with that is that every single thing you do would be known by the government.  Lots of people would have a problem with that.

I rather think that he considered the possibility that a equation and system set might cause the light to go on in peoples' heads that they could take personal control of the problem of money.  But that's just my WAG.  Nakamoto feel free to private message me and provide input (LOL).

15165  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Civil War in America and Bitcoin on: April 22, 2013, 08:53:14 PM
Well....

Lets be honest, I think a lot of us know by now that there's a lot of fucked up shit going on behind the scenes, and a lot of us have some pretty damn good idea whats going on and we have reasons why we think what we think.. everyone reaches a certain level of proof until they go "hmm.. WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK?!" and then some of us might mention it to a few people, but most stay quiet thinking that (what the actual fuck?!), waiting for some solid proof to come out on tv.

Now I suppose I'm definitely one of those conspiracy theorists, where as I don't believe everything the OP is saying, I'm sure that there's plenty of us that do believe certain 'conspiracy theories'.

So I tend to generally stay quiet on most things .. but you know what you know and that the stuff you can't tell anyone because you sound like a loony because not enough people are aware .. yet ..

The whole banksters thing is a perfect example.

Here's one if people fancy feeling messed up - what secrets are the archealogists trying to tell the world? whats being hidden there? and when you start digging there you just gotta ask ... why?

Want the truth of today, look to the past *plays spooky music*

no but really Tongue
I saw that movie.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmT4kYoM4NU

15166  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Ayn Rand on: April 22, 2013, 08:50:19 PM
I'm no longer 19 and have yet to read her work, I probably wouldn't enjoy it.
I'm no longer 19 and have yet to read the "Left Behind" books, I probably wouldn't enjoy them.
15167  Economy / Economics / Re: Who ACTUALLY knows what they're talking about here? on: April 22, 2013, 08:48:04 PM
Indeed it is good.  But I must be skeptical.  Those guys - Plato - Aristole - and Socrates?

They didn't have CREDENTIALS.

They didn't graduate from an ACCREDITED UNIVERSITY WITH A DOCTORATE.

hehehehehee....
15168  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Probable Dead Bitcoins on: April 22, 2013, 07:38:06 PM
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Then we also need to know the amount of fiat cash that is lost or accidentally destroyed each year, as well as the amount of gold that sinks to the bottom of the ocean and which could possibly be recovered.

This isn't a fair assessment because in the first case fiat cash is highly inflationary. The rate at which they print money will always be great than money lost. In terms of gold, there is enough in the world supply that a few events like sinking ships will not affect the global price. We also do not know the total future supply of gold.

Economists do keep track of monetary hoarding. And people do measure supply of commodities. Why shouldn't we do this for the bitcoin?
Okay, I can see how it might be a useful metric.
15169  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Civil War in America and Bitcoin on: April 22, 2013, 07:27:12 PM
... Devil worship really? Unreal
I have a dog that certainly qualifies as a devil.

Having some trouble with the worship part though...
15170  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Police State? on: April 22, 2013, 07:24:40 PM
I guarantee you the words "we finally get to use the APC" were uttered at least once.
I submit it was probably more like "We finally get to use that worthless piece of shit" and "Hell with it.  Watch me, I gonna hang on the outside.  You dudes can squeeze inside that motherf-"

15171  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Kunstler put his foot in his mouth... on: April 22, 2013, 07:22:32 PM
"Collapse" is in the eye of the beholder anyway.  There is a minority of peoples and sub-cultures in the United States that Kunstler's version of collapse would have near zero effect upon anyway.  And there is a much larger sub-set of the population that collapse would have relatively minor effects upon.  The city of Louisville, Kentucky (where I grew up) is a city of just about one million people with it's own 10 Megawatt hydroelectric plant less than a mile from the downtown district.  Some sub-cultures and some locales are better suited for the coming "collapse" than others.
Ten megawatts for a million people?  Got your candles ready?
15172  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Ayn Rand on: April 22, 2013, 07:14:29 PM
AR's books are an excellent spring board toward perceiving reality.
You think the two movies got it right?
Haven't watched part two yet, but Part 1 was dead accurate.
I laughed all the way through both.  Sort of "Mad Max does Capitalism" fighting the Evil Superpowerws of collectivism.  Can't wait for III.
15173  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Police State? on: April 22, 2013, 07:12:57 PM
Okay, I see now.  It makes no sense but he was making a point.

Well, ya, we have cops acting like Johnny-soldier-wanna-bes and they are not too good at it.  They can all go serve a tour or two in Afganistan if they actually think that's cool.

But I rather doubt the ones in Boston thought what they were doing was particularly cool or exciting.  They were just doing their job.

Just my opinion, of course.
15174  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Police State? on: April 22, 2013, 05:42:53 PM
Guys, I have a theory as to what the pip-bomb is. I still have no idea exactly what it is, but I think I know what it does.

It seems to be very damaging to equipment, but not so much to people. That explains both the lack of bomb disposal gear, and the extensive use of human shields on their tanks:
...
That makes no sense.

15175  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Harvard Business Review reduced to quoting dead eugenicist for argument... on: April 22, 2013, 05:36:57 PM
Certain elites (coughdavidcameroncough) think that the poor are much better off being subjugated and under the heel of the rich, and that we'll thank them for it .. unfortunately, the sheeple do thank them ...
But the sheeple will not obey them when they want to buy some little thing that is available from Hong Kong for six euro, and which they can buy easily with bitcoin.

Then, after making their little deal for the small money they have after the rich took most of it, the sheeple return to pious expressions of gratitude and devotion to the wisdom of the elite and progressive leaders of the flock.

And you win again.
15176  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Police State? on: April 22, 2013, 05:30:14 PM
In my eyes, the revolution came full circle (tyranny->freedom->tyranny) in 1791.

So where is out freedom?
I have it.  I put it in a bottle on the kitchen shelf.
15177  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Probable Dead Bitcoins on: April 22, 2013, 04:30:48 PM
We need to understand the impact coins that are inaccessible to the network will have on deflation
Then we also need to know the amount of fiat cash that is lost or accidentally destroyed each year, as well as the amount of gold that sinks to the bottom of the ocean and which could possibly be recovered.

Smiley
15178  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: [ANN] coinwidget.com - a Bitcoin Donation Widget on: April 22, 2013, 02:14:18 PM


Hello! I created http://coinwidget.com/ , a new customizable Bitcoin Donation/Tip button generator. Here is what it looks like:

Here is what it looks like:


When you click on it this window is shown:


Features:
  • The 'Donate' , 'My Bitcoin Address', 'donations' and 'BTC' text can all be changed.
  • The counter can be hidden, show the number of transactions (default), or show the total amount received.
  • Hover over the QR icon in the bottom left to show a large scannable QR code.
  • The wallet with arrow icon is a bitcoin: URI compatible link.

Please share any ideas or suggestions you may have to improve on this widget. Thanks for viewing!


Sure.  Here you go.

Your widget directs those who click to a javascript program on your website.

<script>
var CoinWidget_Config = {
   address : 'BITCOIN-WALLET-ADDRESS'
};
</script>
<script src="http://c.coinwidget.com/widget.js"></script>

What happens at that point is strictly determined by what the code does.  And we can examine that by typing the following into the command bar:

http://c.coinwidget.com/widget.js

which yields:

http://d1e4zb60eak76i.cloudfront.net/widget.js

Which could be A on 2013-01-01 and B on 2014-01-01.

So you redirect a person from a website  to coinwidget.com and then run a javascript to take money.

The person never knows what that javascript does and it could change, either by malicious intent or by your website being hijacked.

The simplest case would be to use a different QR code.
15179  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The Antisocial Network (Krugman on Bitcoin - hilarity ensues) on: April 22, 2013, 11:56:11 AM
HOW DARE YOU MONSTERS ATTACK MY PRECIOUS KRUGGY!?

That man is a genius! Why else would they give him a Nobel Prize? or a column at the best news source on the planet (the NY Times)?  

Look, He's been right about gold being in a bubble, he's been right about our total lack of inflation, and 100% correct that we need to massively expand our welfare state by printing money.  

IN FACT I wouldn't be surprised if he's right about BTC to.  Based solely on that article, i'm considering selling all my BTC and buying shares of APPL instead.

Y'allz is chumps... chump-muffins even...

Krugman has had a great recession in that he warned of it, he warned that austerity would make it worse, he warned that the stimulus was too small and he warned that deflation was a bigger danger than inflation.  As he predicted, the Fed has been printing money for years and it will carry on doing so for years and there is no way for inflation to take off.

He does have an openly disclosed political point of view; he believes that one of the main purposes of economics is to ensure full employment.  Bitcoin and gold both are unsuited to ensuring full employment so naturally he does not want them to succeed.
Openly disclosed? 

Naw.  He knows just like we know that full employment is a necessary condition for severe inflation or hyperinflation, and for that reason, the powers that be do not want it and must insure it does not occur.

Your note about why Kruggie doesn't want bitcoin or gold to succeed is just an inference.  He hasn't said what you imply.  But I'd think he'd be "opposed to gold and bitcoin" because his stand would be to "support the US dollar as long as possible and then some." 
15180  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Ayn Rand on: April 22, 2013, 11:45:10 AM
AR's books are an excellent spring board toward perceiving reality.
You think the two movies got it right?
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