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1521  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin is Falling...Is it Panic Time? on: June 23, 2017, 10:17:22 PM
I think this is a good moment for buying coins at a lower price. After the fall, there is always growth and profit.

Sadly, the price now is at $2700 so I don't think it is the good moment to buy bitcoin. I think after the Network splitting on August the price of bitcoin will be really low that everyone will be willing to invest in it. Maybe it will be going back to the it's price less than $2000 and will just get back up after it.
You are right, compared to last week bitcoin prices, this must be right time to buy some more bitcoin for the targets of $3500 in quick times. I'm not finding bitcoin prices are falling down from current levels even it will be fluctuating ups and downs for some hundred dollars. We can expect bitcoin will start another wave of rally toward $5000 prices also hence this must be the right time to buy some more bitcoins.
1522  Economy / Economics / Re: The Real Reason to Hold Gold And Bitcoin on: June 23, 2017, 09:55:29 PM
Bitcoin and gold are the best investments in the modern world. You need to use both options to avoid losing money and making more profit.
well if you are thinking for a long term investment this two assets are the best to hold as the value will possible to keep rising and rising from time to time, there's some fluctuations and downfall but for sure the value will survive and its bring big fortune in returned.

I always thought that mostly gold used as jewelry, and gold bar for investment. Diversify investment into bitcoin and gold is a good decision as both of it has some advantages to cover each other disadvantages, more or less.
People could store both of it in secret which no one knows about your savings, the best things to avoid taxes  Grin
After getting introduced into bitcoin investments, honestly I am completely forgetting about diversifying my investment funds, because I could not find the any alternative which are as good as how bitcoin investments are performing for our money. That must be the reason why I am investing only with bitcoin and not at all thinking about gold kind of any other investment opportunities.
1523  Economy / Economics / Re: Is the economy situation in your country that bad? on: June 23, 2017, 09:39:14 PM
Situation is pretty bad looking in my country, especially on south. But I think that politicians are doing their job very bad. When you find yourself wanting to leave because of lack of any perspective, than you know that everything gone apart. With crypto currency I do get an add cash and it helps me a lot. Without that I would be devastated.
From your statement what I understand is, if you go for spreading bitcoin awareness in your country there could be more chances for people will be adopting it as per your country situation. When people are not having faith with their local currency, the chances of adopting bitcoin will be more.

It is already happening in many country, you may try with your people.
1524  Economy / Economics / Re: Why we should fear a cashless world on: June 23, 2017, 09:26:04 PM
Cashless society will make the government powerful, they will take over almost everything. Your money will always be regulated and it can be traceable on where do you spend your funds. Unlike in cash/fiat, you can just use it whenever you want and there's no restriction about it. The bad thing about cashless, not all of us are literate in technology.
I believe you are not talking with respect to bitcoin based cashless society. Because with bitcoin no one will be able to trace down where the funds are coming and where they are being moved. A cashless society will support many benefits but I do not think it will support the government to stay powerful.
1525  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: wtf? Blockchain transaction fees is outrageous!!! on: June 23, 2017, 09:04:54 PM
Don't panic everyone! Scaling solution is upon us. Soon transaction fees should be considerably lower when we will have SegWitX2 implemented.
Until then I just won't transfer any Bitcoins, because I expect that after the upgrade will be done the price of Bitcoin will go through the roof.
Just chill out for a few weeks and observe that is happening with the blockchain. Fun times ahead.
Well this is something way risky I don’t think many of the people will follow this opinion to wait because no one know exactly what is going to happen then. I can’t take this much risk with my coins so I have decided to sell them before the end of this month. If the prices go high there will be nothing to worry but if the Prices drop down then it will be a real issue.
1526  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How do you know when you are in profit? USD or Satoshi? on: June 23, 2017, 08:53:51 PM
I am a little confused because I have always looked at the satoshi prices, but sometimes I hear people say that you should look at the dollar value if you are in profit or not. But when you trade at an exchange to BTC all the peaks and vallies are measured in BTC? Should you follow dollar value or satoshi value to know if you are in profit? Or do just have to choose one of them and stick to it? For example if I buy at 0.1 satoshi and now the chart show 0.12 satoshi I think I am in profit? But is that not always the case? I am using cointracking for example to see if I am in profit or not. If I look at btc and amp Doge I am currently in -7% on the coin, but if I switch to dollar I am +0.09%  It is very confusing..

Does it have to do with if you plan to keep your money inside crypto or take it out? If you plan to take it out I guess dollar is more important, but my plan is to stay in crypto for the long term so dollar value is not even important at that point...?

I mean if you buy a coin at 0.1 satoshi and you sell it at 0.2 satochi you have sold in "profit" even if btc would have sunken 90%?

Well you have to choose your reference... every price is in reference of something else. If you value BTC more than USD, then you will be happy to make BTC gains. If you care about USD, then you will be happy if your USD go up... it's all about reference, there's no global value.

If you think BTC is a long term winner, then focus on making more BTC and forget about USD fluctuations.


I totally agree, although I would assume by mere logic that the main reason to join this world of crypto coins is the the desire acquire bitcoins and set aside fiat money, especially the dollar. So I always consider that I am in profit when at the moment of closing a trade it leaves me with more bitcoins than when I opened it.
I like your optimistic approach towards the cryptocurrency but let me remind you that currently the cryptocurrency don’t have the strength to be the only choice for us to make it the only way of payments so, we are basically in need of the USD. If it was not so then the price comparison of the Bitcoin would not be judged by it purchase price with the USD.
1527  Economy / Speculation / Re: Is this right time to buy bitcoin?? on: June 23, 2017, 08:26:12 PM
After seeing some post regarding bitcoin legalized in india (link will be given below)  spreading around facebook and other social media lots of my friends asking about investing in bitcoin is this right time or 1)it may go down till that can we wait and buy  or 2) it will take off booming then we cant touch because of overprice . Please could somebody give clear picture Link: https://cointelegraph.com/news/suddenly-bitcoin-to-be-officially-legal-in-india
I am not sure about how much the reality is there in it about the legalization of the bitcoin in India but if it is true then no need to think of a second option because we know that the Indian economy is an emerging economy and if the bitcoin becomes a part of it the bitcoin price will be on a boom again. According to the characteristics of the bitcoin its price will definitely increase.
1528  Economy / Marketplace / Re: how earn btc from online??? on: June 23, 2017, 07:22:51 PM
hey...I want to know easily  earn btc from online...can you give some tips about it...someone only tell me that earn btc easily bt they not given any tips...plz...anyone help me
This is really simple thing that everyone  talking about the Bitcoin in every field to accept but no one giving tips to step by step success in this field .
Well here I will suggest you to work hard in the starting and make yourself more experienced and knowledgeful person so that no one can cheat you .
Here in the Bitcoin field there are many scammers who can cheat you with nonsense term that are totally unknown for you , so your experience and knowledge will work for you .
And also I found some simple type of cheating , that they were saying that if you want buy Bitcoin then we can give at 50$ low rate but in reality after the deposit they will scam you totally .
So if anyone looking doubt then direct leave him or make deal in very small amount .
In fact you can get any kind of information from internet, there are a lot of detailed information present on different sites and you can use any kind of information easy from there. So, you do not need to get any information from a person, you can search for any issue without wait for the person or wasting any more time. But it all depend on your interested if you are interested and want to information about bitcoin.
1529  Economy / Marketplace / Re: How can we encourage local businesses to accept BTC? on: June 23, 2017, 07:09:44 PM
there is a lot of those businessmen who deals with that kinds of invesrments you've mentioned, but the probleme is how it iw to be implemented. One ways to implement this is you should be developing a seminars for these people who engaged on a particular business. It can be consumers, owners and other people who planned a future business ahead. The aim is to attract those people regarding the profit that they may gain if they will accept bitcoin as payment of their businesses, more importantly is the time consumed of transactions; and it's a cashless type of spending. Let them register an online wallet in order for them to have assurance on the earnings they will.be having soon bitcoiners will transact in a test run to those businessmen.
Yes such businessmen need to introduce bitcoin in their area, they need to arrange seminar and other such programs through which they can collect people.

As soon as people will get knowledge about bitcoin and as soon as they will start using bitcoin for purchasing stuff the merchants will become more confident and will allow people to use bitcoin for shopping, but it think to educate people about bitcoin it is a time consuming activity and not so easy.
1530  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: When do YOU sell? on: June 23, 2017, 06:06:32 PM
I will sell my bitcoin when the price is right.Because they predict that bitcoin for 2017 will be at 2000$.I have to hold my BTC and wait for the high price so that before entering year 2018 I build my own house.There should be a proof  that BTC makes changes especially in home finance that the stage of my life be level up.

At this point, im not selling unless its completely necessary or like an emergency. If i can use money aside from my btcs i would prefer to spend it as i realize how storing btc would be essential in making more profits once the right time for selling comes, which i don't think is here yet.

That's why its is important to invest only an amount that you can afford to lose. So you don't have to bother to sell it if an emergency has arises. As for me, I just invest just a portion every time I can. And not invest to big because it certain situation, I will not have to sell it. Just saying.
Keeping some money for emergency is better for those people who cannot withdraw immediately while those people who can withdraw immediately like who have their bitcoin debit cards then they will have to invest their money in bitcoin. As with bitcoin debit card they can cash their bitcoin within a minute from any ATM.

Even they can withdraw anytime, having the Bitcoin debit card, it's not a good idea. Because we don't know when emergencies will happen, what means it can happen while the BTC price is cheaper than the moment you bought it. So you will lose money by converting it to fiat on that moment. Emergency money should still continue in fiat, it's safer. Just sell BTC more expensive than you bought.
Yes, it is good to keep the emergency money into the fiat and to be honest the emergency money means that it should be something kept in the local currency so that it works immediately. If in case of emergency you go and look for the ATM booth to withdraw money from it then I am scared it is not something you are talking about emergency because emergency needs immediate response.
1531  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Where to learn how to trade on: June 23, 2017, 04:31:50 PM
The way I have learned to trade cryptocurrencies is to just experiment with small amounts on my own. You can develop you own strategy that suits you and you can decide which coins you want to work with. The great thing about trading cryptocurrencies is that the fees are a small percentage of your trade amount so if you are trading smaller amounts, the fees are also smaller.
Yes, this is actually what makes you more skillful and you learn a lot from it when you practically step in into the market. The trading is just like swimming to learn it you will have let yourself to the water; no one can learn swimming on the ground.

Same is the case with the trading you can’t learn it from outside the market to understand it you will need to get into it.
1532  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Do you trade at multiple exchanges? on: June 23, 2017, 12:01:34 PM
I have never tried arbitrage trading like many people are sharing here because so far I never find big price gaps to make use of them.
Finding arbitrage trading opportunities are not easier one. You need to closely watch different exchanges market movements more carefully so that you can spot out any big gap then you can make use of them.

Sometimes due to heavy pump and dump you may see price gaps, but before you will be moving funds there, those gaps might get smaller. Usually arbitrage trading will be very rare but if you figure out anything you can get instant profits surely. Keep on trying, I have found many times, not big profits but definite profits.
1533  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: When to leave the game? on: June 23, 2017, 08:36:57 AM
When you are feel boring with the game also when you already make your bankroll doubled then that's the time to leave the game before you lose again your profit playing in long run i don't considered this as my bad hobbit bassicaly when you are contented enough with what you get then its for your best.
Boring in gambling ?
If boring is possible with gambling then there would not be any chances for gambling addiction by this time.

Gamblers never find gambling is boring that is the reason they are facing lots of gambling problems. But it would be good if you gambler will be stopping his gambling when finding there will be no possibility of making big money from gambling and from that if he starts feeling gambling is boring. But I'm sure practically it is not happening with any gambler.

Usually gamblers leave off gambling only when they do not have further bankroll left with them to continue their gambling.
1534  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Where and which part of day do you gamble? on: June 23, 2017, 07:24:11 AM
I am going to gamble during my free time specially on weekends and this my free time i just want to relax and and make my self enjoy. I was go out to my house and to play and i will bet. Because on that day i gamble i was already finish all my works. And i just want also maybe if a chance i will win. When you gamble outside your house it really feel enjoyment. Gamble gives opportunity to win and spend money and willing to lose this is my relaxation to myself. I enjoy to gamble but i control myself in gambling.
I believe in the beginning all the gamblers will be having plans like you to gamble only in free times.
But after some times, they will get gambling addiction and will start playing gambling at whatever time they will be feeling to gamble immediately. They will start breaking their own resolutions to limits of gambling only for the free times.

In my opinion we should not have any plan for gambling, it means we should not gamble more frequently like scheduling once per week or everyday. If we are not frequent to gambling then we will not get gambling addictions.
1535  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What do you think about Casino with 0% Edge? on: June 23, 2017, 06:53:38 AM
It sound great for the gambler if that site is legit, but I doubt casino with zero house edge can play fair and how will a casino will survive with zero edge, so no I wont play in the casino that has zero edge, it just sound not right

I think they definitely can. The reason is that gamblers usually keep playing till either they win big or bust. Even at 0% house edge, I am sure things can sway to casino's side where they would eventually win the same amount.
That is a fair point and no one looses only the edge worth. I mean show me a gambler who has gambled one bitcoins and has only lost 0.01, usually we lose much more and we try to go for the glory hit and we loose.

In fact, I remember there have been giveaways by primedice and many others where the house edge was technically positive yet people lost which is normal too. It might mean the dangers of gambling will continue regardless of whether we will be having a normal house edge or zero house edge.
1536  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: So I want to get into trading. on: June 17, 2017, 12:39:21 PM
Getting into trading requires some  knowledge. Trading cryptocurrencies is not just the art of buying and selling just like the convectional trading.
 Cryptocurrencies and forex trading requires knowledge in both fundamental and technical analysis and there are a lot of avenues to learn it e.g youtube. forums and forexfactory. Knowledge of Japanese candlestick pattern and Price action is enough to know when to buy and when to sell.
Yes other than capital requirements for trading, one new trader must focus on gaining knowledge on trading skills before getting into this high risky yet profitable career. Trading will be good only when we are avoiding losses or at least keeping the losses at minimum levels. Otherwise long run in trading will not be possible.

Trading has some basic protocols on how to be started and how to be done for successful long run. When are breaching those basics, we cannot expect successful trading career.
1537  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Fixed income with BTC trading? on: June 17, 2017, 12:13:52 PM
Trading is not for long term because if you tell that it is for long term then it is not trading and it is considered investing because if you trade then you almost do this on daily basis you just buy low and sell high or do scalping like in the forex that you speculate the price and make profits from it. Long term is only good for investment and in trading it is risky because you might buy at wrong price.
There is a thin differences between trading and investing. But compared to trading, investments are having less risk and here in the case of fixed income, both will not be suitable in my opinion. We can choose either investments or trading with bitcoin or any altcoins but we cannot expect some consistent price rise all the times.

Trading is known for its risks hence by overcoming those risks, achieving regular income will not be possible even for professional traders. Because regardless of experiences levels, almost all the traders are facing losses frequently.
1538  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Anyone trading ETC/USD and making profit ? on: June 17, 2017, 09:30:30 AM
I'm making good profits with ETC/usd trading , this altcoins doesn't have huge volatility = its perfect for me , i bought around 14 - selling @20 , rince and repeat Smiley
No surprises. In recent times ethereum has been bumped a lot and I believe almost all the altcoin traders are making very good profits. But I'm just waiting for the time for these altcoin taking a bloodbath. I'm sorry to discourage traders but that must be the reality. There are many rumours like ethereum will beat over bitcoins. Those are just baits to make innocent investor to get into.
1539  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: looking for ad networks that pays in btc on: June 17, 2017, 08:20:41 AM
please suggest networks that have high payment and lower withdrawal threshold.
Practically we are not getting any services like enabling us to withdraw in quick times.
The structure of pay rates and its approval /crediting time and considering time to reach threshold levels, you must wait at least 15 days to receive your first payments.

To tackle these, I manage multiple accounts with different advertisement networks so that I am able to withdraw at least once per week.
1540  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Which is the best way to promote products or links? on: June 17, 2017, 07:42:00 AM
Which is the best way to promote products or refferal links? Social media and forums is total shit,no one interested in this.
I prefer social media as an effective way to get many responses. We know now that many people who use social media, they are usually active and as one part that has an addiction to the internet. Facebook and instagram be my choice to do promotion, I think this is the most effective way that exists today.
In recent times, I do see people are moving into app based advertising. If you check you may find lots of whatsapp group promotions and telegram bot based promotions are gaining prominent shares. Still, I too believe social media promotions will stay stronger in coming years too to be considered as an effective way of promotions.

After traditional ways like newspaper/television advertising media, social media remains powerful to reach new generations of people.
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