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801  Economy / Speculation / Re: HODL Will Stand When All Else Falls! on: February 09, 2018, 08:51:57 AM
Well, to be honest i feel little nervous, because when it falls, it falls really fast. And looking at the price right now hurts, specially like me who invested in mid Nov. But even in bad times, i didn't sell anything yet, i am holding tight, even though my 60% portfolio gone!
Nice one indeed. You will never regret that decision. For those who panic a lot, if they can go back to some of the old threads, they will know by now that FUD means nothing, and they are there just to shake off some weak hands from the market while some bigger boys in the market called whales benefit a lot from that. Holders will never lose in anyway as long as they believe in what they are holding and they do not lose hope. It is normal to be nervous right now, over time, you will get used to it.
802  Economy / Speculation / Re: $6200 I'm buying on: February 09, 2018, 08:21:39 AM
There were good news. Senator Warner - is one of them
It is surprising to know that a lot of investors already know that what the institutions are doing is to just shake off weak hands all the time, to have a better long position in the market ? Come on!

In fact that is what is going to even get this market sweeter to trade in the long run while the so called weak hands wallow in self-pity.

Check out the trends, the institutions dump their holdings, shake the market with negative news, until there is no weak hand to shake anymore, and then they buy back far lower and then we start hearing some positive news. It is like a movie no early investor should miss because bitcoin and the whole cryptocurrency at large is going big.
803  Economy / Speculation / Re: Read this before you think to sell on: February 09, 2018, 07:49:40 AM
Here is an article that I believe will help you (for the ones who are new in the crypto world) make your head clear and think
it over. https://decentralize.today/dont-fall-for-the-hype-why-bitcoin-s-10-000-price-doesn-t-reflect-its-true-value-6b42a59fce0a

Bitcoin has overwhelmed so much, it is crazy to think that the 2018 is the end of Bitcoin. If you see the history of this coin you will realize
how much stable Bitcoin actually is.
I read the whole article and it is great, we just need to look back and see how small the 2013 bubble of bitcoin looks like compared to now, in 10 years the current drop in the price of bitcoin will be nothing and the people that are able to hold despite all the FUD going on will be the ones laughing at the end, however it is going to be impossible to hold that long unless there is an understanding of bitcoin technology, those that are here only for the money are going to be incapable to hold for that long, while those that are interested not only in the price but in the technology as well will be rewarded by their faith in bitcoin.
That is how it usually is with early adopters anyway. Some would see an opportunity in something, and they will grab it immediately.

Some will read the wrong meanings, get in, out of panic flee when the institutions are playing with their mind and they end up losing out, while some will just be there looking for all the negativeness until they totally miss out. They are the type their kids ask them later in future where they were when everyone was getting rich. I wonder what they will have to say by then.
804  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin ON SALE, buy it now and HODL ! on: February 09, 2018, 06:12:44 AM
You can wait btc at 5k then you can buy and hodl
A lot of people have waited like this in the past, and they ended up missing a good chance of their life. What is the difference between $6000 and $5000 ? What if you never get to see the $5000, so you will miss a good chance because of a thousand bucks ?

My point is, when you are in dips like this, learn how to buy in margins, when the correction is over and you are pretty sure we are in an uptrend, and then you can now decide to add more in that case.

Obviously, this is like the period of shopping. At times like this, it is always good to shop for new coins and wait for the bulls to take over the market because that will be happening very soon. We are still not sure where the trend is going, but like you said, the China new year will soon be over, they may be looking to buy in quickly so as to be a part of the long positions, and with what is going on with the charts, I will say buy, buy more and keep buying!
805  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: When Bounties are not worth the effort - Limit the numbers on: February 09, 2018, 05:15:03 AM
It is extremely unprofitable for  ICOs:)  this is why they will not make such a limitation.  If you are disappointed with what you receive for a campaign -  it is always up to you not to take it. Start trading on the stock or do whatever else you will be happy with Smiley  and ICOs need as much advertising as possible for the same token amount. So limitation of participants' number will make ad campaign less efficient,  but more expensive.
Simple fact. Their aim is to spread the news to as much participants as possible and they are paying for that. It would be bad for them to see just few participants with not much impact at the end of the day. It totally depends on each individual whether they want to go ahead with the campaign or not, but really limiting participants will not make any sense, the most important thing is for managers to audit participants thoroughly for alts or bots as the case may be, which I am sure they are doing.
806  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: GREEN, GREEN, GREEN a great color on: February 09, 2018, 03:51:09 AM
It is indeed nice to see some green again. The dip was necessary, but I hope we are now coming out of it and can have a period of stability before the next rise.
Yes, it has been some pretty huge number of days of red which was not funny most especially for traders who have just decided to stay away from the market with all the uncertainties flying around. So far so good, the market is looking good and it seems like we will start seeing some huge greens flying around a lot pretty soon even more than what we have now. Good to be back!

Some people predict that there will be more DIP before Chinese New Year, maybe to 5k, but I dont think so, there has been a huge support on 6k, I believe we see 8-9k during Feruary and then bullish trend in March.
Whatever anyone wants to predict now, I am still good at the price I have gotten in and the fact that the market is almost done with the whole downtrend and $5000 may not be even easy to pick up the way things are going. However, I guess we have to stay optimistic now, believing that the trend is going to reverse pretty soon, and look forward to a better year of new ATHs.
807  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Is now a good time to invest in ICO? on: February 09, 2018, 03:21:02 AM
I would also agree, that now is the time to invest. If you struggle with research, there are a few websites out there you can consult
For instance:
- crushcrypto.com
- smithandcrown.com

However, always double check and only regard the sites' verdicts as support for your own research. Also it is possible that the circumstances around an ICO change, so always stay alert to news concerning an ICO of your interest (via Telegram or Reddit groups for instance).

Good luck
There is not even a single specific time to invest in ICO, anytime is good. What is important is doing your analysis on the project, check out the team if they are really worthy of you leaving some of your funds with, see  what their road map looks like and if you really believe the project is going to give you a huge value, then you can always go ahead.

There are so many ICOs just like the OP stated, you just have to do the research yourself and websites like the one you have mentioned should just be like a way to pick some which is why I like the aspect of you saying to always double check, because some people will just go ahead without bothering to do that.
808  Economy / Speculation / Re: Get out while i can on: February 08, 2018, 01:42:47 PM
I guess nobody wants to sell his Bitcoins now? The demand for the coins is growing together with the interest to BTC!
After last few days, now bitcoin market is now into recovery phase which must be a holding time rather than looking for escaping from crypto world unlike OP is looking for. It is really unfortunate that some of new investors who had bought bitcoins at the top of markets in last years and now facing losses. They might now fully aware of crypto world and that is the reason why now looking to "get out". But they must understand how bitcoin markets and in whole how crypto world is working and what will be the benefits the investors enjoyed in previous hard time. Then I believe no one will look for selling prices at those falling phase.
809  Economy / Speculation / Re: Coinmarketcap analysis Bitcoin & alt coin price (Daily update) on: February 08, 2018, 12:45:52 PM
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do you think this helps ?can this post give positive feedbacks on those users that has faith in bitcoin?instead of putting this kind of RED CONCLUSIONs..why not just help the community to feel much better,with bleeding market we need no negativity.all we want is booster to keep on holding and help bitcoin even in smallest way.

No, it won't help. And this will not give positive feedback. But this is the truth where we are now. Sad

Yes, you are right. That we all should help the community. But I think it's very tough from here. Because everyday we are seeing some bad news about bitcoin (All cryptocurrency) all over the world on media. Which is the main reason of this.
We are not all blind. We all know where we are and where we are is good. Reds are always like meat, the same way we have red meats, eat them before they decay as they won’t last for so long before they start turning green and at that point, you may be a little bit late to taste it. Bitcoin is in a huge correction, and this is like the best time for someone who is smart enough to pick their bags and start holding up.

In my opinion, there were enough with the whole bad news you guys are hearing. It won’t help you and it won't even help a single person.

Look at the bright side of the opportunity to buy at the bottom. Bad news are always a way for whales to use media to play with market emotions and make a lot of profit from guys like you who panic at the slightest of every news that comes your way. Hold mates! You won't regret it.
810  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Buying Coins on: February 08, 2018, 11:04:37 AM
It is very difficult to say where you will get cheapest rate of coin. You have to scrutinizing different exchanger and can check same coin price. You can also get help from coin market cap where you will see in how many exchanger the same coin exchanging.
It also depends a lot on your country where you live, because there are countries in which there is a ban on the trading of the bitcoin so people from those country use the international accounts to invest into these currencies, I think the best way about knowing this is to discuss it with your fellow country men and ask them about their reviews before making your mind. At least by this you can easily shortlist some best exchanges working in your area.
It does not even depend on his country. All he would need is to get either bitcoin or Ethereum, hit an exchange like binance or bittrex, buy the coins of his choice based on his research. Why is he looking for the cheapest on different exchanges as every coin on each exchange are almost about the same value ?

My only advice would be for him to do a proper research of any coin he wants to hold, go to those exchanges I mentioned above and then buy them with bitcoin or Ethereum.
811  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What stage of adoption is Crypto currently at? on: February 08, 2018, 10:22:55 AM
Supermine said it right. We are in the early days of cryptocurrencies as a whole. Try going out of your house and see if you can find a BTC accepting store near you. You found none? Of course you did. Thats because theres less than 5% of the world's population use or own cryptocurrencies.
True, the fact there is a lot of money invested in bitcoin and alts does not meant that we have reached any kind of big adoption, I have yet to see a single store in my country accepting bitcoin and if I saw it I will buy whatever they are selling just to support them, I still think we are below 1% when it comes to adoption, so this should be very telling because once we reach 5% or 10% I think we are going to see a chain reaction in which most stores will begin to accept bitcoin.
On a large scale we are not even close. However, I still want to believe we are going to be getting past the adoption phase pretty soon. Is it not becoming obvious ?

First, some investors are still scared and looking to see if it is right to get in or not, some have taken the bold step, institutions gradually are stepping, the LN will increase the speed of transactions and make bitcoin even more usable, once we hit those stage, we are going to even be getting past the growth phase, so for now, I will say we are just there in between the adoption and growth phase.
812  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Bitcoin now below $10,000 on: February 07, 2018, 04:54:43 PM
Better to buy bitcoin now and for sure you will earn a lot of profit in the future.  To those people have bitcoin in their wallet better to hold your bitcoin and don't sell your bitcoin because you can get more profit once the bitcoin increase again.
Yeah, we are still in a very good buy zone now, so for every long term holder, this should always be the good time to buy some of the coin and keep, at least with some few percentage of fiat and maybe buy more, if it goes a little bit lower. This is how the institutions behave anyway, so it is best to always behave the same way they do. Chances are you will always make good gains in situations like this as we may not even have the value anymore once we start another bullish rally.

Don't loose hope just hold on to your bitcoin who knows tomorrow will be the day of bitcoin to shine again. Little by little it will bump again in its highest price. Positive mind positive effect in our life.
The funniest part is that we have had such moments as this before and bitcoin always come back stronger which baffles me if people usually forget so soon or they just like giving themselves unnecessary stress worrying on something that is not worth it and then giving the institutions the chance to make more profit from their panics at the end of it all. It may be low now, but that does not mean it will be low forever.
813  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: I watched my $5000 metamorphose to $2075 :( on: February 07, 2018, 03:03:04 PM
No one scammed you, it happens. Unfortunately, you bought at the top when some whales decided to cash out for profit. Do not worry, it is a market, it will recover and by then you will be calculating your profits rather than your losses. I had the same feel some years back when I started investing into crypto and now, my investment has grown to the point that I really do not bother myself whatever happens.

If you have the guts, you can even buy more during the red zone of the market, but as time goes on, you will get used to it when you are swimming in profits.
814  Economy / Economics / Re: good effect and bad effects of robots in replacing human Jobs on: February 07, 2018, 11:54:43 AM
In an idealistic world, the robots would do all the hazardous and exhausting jobs, and humans could evolve towards less tiring and more rewarding tasks...
In reality, I think that, exactly like at every stage of evolution, some jobs will disappear and others be created. Saying that robotisation is the cause of unemployment is quite a shortcut.
Yeah, I guess people are just looking at it on the factory workers scale kind of thing. One thing that is constant in life is change which is what brings about evolution. There will always be better ways to do things, so we do not expect some work to remain for life when there are better options to it. However, there are some professions that obviously cannot be replaced by robots, so we may just have to be looking at the few percentage of hard laborers in this case.

Among the good things is that in many cases human error will be avoided, but there will also be bad things like lack of creativity or the loss of jobs.  Wink
Human error may lead to any disasters hence being careful may help but robotic engineering may lead to evacuation of human race too. So, allowing robotics with artificial intelligence may lead to unexpected events.
815  Economy / Economics / Re: Taxes and crypto. on: February 03, 2018, 03:46:19 PM

I do not think that there are many people who will want to pay taxes for the profits received from the crypto currency. Although later in some countries can introduce it.
I think some of governments are trying to work towards, though many seems to have misunderstood them and claimed that they are trying to ban Bitcoin from their country for good. After going through what they have said, I understood that the reason they said such was because they are looking for a way to prevent bitcoin from being used in sponsoring criminal activities and also from being used by people to avoid paying tax to the government. But I don’t really know if fighting people that are hiding from paying tax matters now than finding criminals who uses bitcoin.

As per current situations, I believe taxation on bitcoin probably far better than completely banning bitcoin usage. Anyhow, we bitcoiners are having some solutions always. Hence we never need to worry.
816  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin.Bitcoin.Bitcoin!!!!!!!!! on: February 03, 2018, 03:02:08 PM
I believe bitcoin will climbbut it will be at a much slower rate than last year and a few months before the rise starts.
Well, who knows if this is going to be the case? It is still very early to be assuming on that one as time will basically tell. We may consolidate for a while which is normal after a trend, but I am guessing middle of this month, trend may change. I may be wrong which is the reason I said 'MAY', before anyone starts quoting me. One thing I am very sure of is that nothing goes down or up without reversing one day as long as it is not dead.

I am optimistic of Bitcoin in 2018. The lighting network is going to solve fees and processing time problem. With low fees and fast transaction time, Bitcoin is going to be easily adopted in real life, one example is stores.
Asides the lightening network, it seems the community is gradually switching to segwit and they are beginning to see the good side of it for faster transactions. With the LN in play, things may change but based on some readings, I really do hope this ends up resolving the scaling issue at hand really. We honestly need something to build up buy momentum right now and I am honestly not seeing any yet.
817  Economy / Speculation / Re: Could the Bitcoin price by the end of 2018 only 4000$ - 6000$? on: February 03, 2018, 02:46:34 PM
The pattern looks similar but it does not mean that the same will happen this year. We all know that the price fluctuates depending on many aspects. If the same pattern happens this year, wouldn't it be a great time to buy more? No matter how much the price will up or down this year, the most important thing is how we use it to make profit.
We are not so sure  of whether that is going on happen, though I once heard that Bitcoin will reach $25000 this year, but they didn’t say when, and they also didn’t say it would be $40,000 like you said. But it would be really cool if it happens to reach the price rate of $40,000 this year, if possible, $60,000 will be good. But lets not hope too much, to avoid getting disappointed. But I’m believing it will reach $25,000 at least.

But expecting bitcoin prices to fall down up to $4000, does not seem realistic as market is right now showing some recovery as FUDs are coming to rest after some storms. So, we can expect bitcoin prices to cross $10,000 levels very soon which will lead to $15,000 and then $20,000 levels in coming days.
818  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Top reasons that leads to fail in trading on: February 03, 2018, 02:35:37 PM
Of course, emotionally influential, impatient and greedy, when the price of starting a dump you fear the of many loss while price pump, you want more high price. Human nature. Until.bpth give regrets.
Hmmm… not really, but I support the first and third reasons that will lead to failure in trading. Fear is one of the biggest enemies you will have in trading, so if you really want to experience success, you need to focus on what you’re doing and take away every fear in you. Good traders who always wins the game are not into being scared of whatever it is that happens.

Next, it’s always good to invest in various places, in case things turn out bad with the other, you can always have backup. The second reason given by the op is like a win-win.
819  Economy / Speculation / Re: future bitcoin? on: February 03, 2018, 02:24:07 PM
if last year bitcoin scored a very surprising value.
does bitcoin still have the potential to register much higher value this year and in the years to come?
will the predictions of cripto be a reality or just a mere wishful thinking?
with great pleasure, I really appreciate your opinions and inputs from all of you.
Thank you very much. Smiley
Sure, why not? I am still very bullish on bitcoin right now, and I see this moment as a break to just load up on bitcoin and alts, for the recovery period.

It is normal; there is no downtrend that does not at a point end up finishing. We are in that phase now and we just have to see how long that stage continues. Also, it is not wishful thinking, but reasonably, we know the market was overbought, hence the correction, adoption will give that boost eventually, so we will have to wait and see how that ends.
820  Economy / Speculation / Re: Another slump, do you buy BTC at the bottom this time? on: February 03, 2018, 01:27:27 PM
Many have already started dumping out of panic and we should expect that to happen because most traders and investors are hear just to make profit from bitcoin volatility.
If you look at the way thinks are going and you are a charts experts you will find out that bitcoin can grow again as this pattern has repeated itself several times.
Everyone knows history will always repeat itself and anyone dumping out of panic right now is just plainly stupid after waiting this long and did not sell at the top to make profit and would prefer losses instead.

This is not why we are here anyway, as we all know the market will recover definitely one way or the other, but how long the downtrend and how far it gets is what no one can really say and from the chart, it does not even seem in any way that we have a chance of trend reversal anytime soon. I will buy at the bottom, but until I see a very clear sign. It seems some groups just want to see this trend for now.
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