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1521  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: July 14, 2023, 08:18:41 AM

Despite the fact that Victor Osimhen doesn't have a certain release clause in his current contract with the club, Napoli still wants to make over 150 million Euros should the Nigerian striker leave the the club this summer transfer window.
The club's reluctancy not to let the player leave without a huge transfer fee is because of the player's current striking power. It'll be difficult to find his replacement if he leaves now so they need a fee that can give them the financial strength to get a replacement

I don't know if it's worth 150 million, but 100 definitely is
He's a goal machine, have you seen how many goals he scored!? He's also talented and quite young
In my opinion it's a great investment, I would like Napoli to keep it but I don't think it's possible
Napoli is currently open with offers coming in from other clubs interested in bringing in Osimhen. It's just that Napoli, who really don't want to lose their best striker, certainly don't want to sell Osimhen at a low price. Even some time ago Napoli priced at 150 Million Euros. but then from the news I just read it turns out that Napoli has again raised the price of Osimhen's transfer to 160 million euros (up 10 million euros).

And in fact the high transfer price is also a strategy played by Napoli, which is very clear that Napoli is not ready to lost Osimhen. Even the President of Napoli, Aurelio De Laurentiis, has also confirmed this. That high price is expected to make enthusiasts withdraw from hunting.
And it seems this way has worked. Because until now no one dared to offer close to that price.

I hadn't thought of it in those terms
so you say it's a strategy for not selling it but remaining on the market
it might make sense and I hadn't thought of this kind of complex strategies, it fits
thank you for the tip

1522  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: July 14, 2023, 08:11:56 AM
Barcelona have completed Vitor Roque signing finally for a 40 million euros transfer fee. He is only an 18-year-old centre-forward right now. He must be seen as a wonderkid that Barcelona allocated the money they can spend this summer for him mostly. However this transfer won't happen now. The deal is going to be completed officially and he will join the team by July 2024.

It is similar to what Real Madrid did for Endrick from Palmeiras. Not exactly the same though because Real Madrid have no choice other than waiting for him due to age issue in his country. These are all investments into their futures and I wonder which one of these players will develop more.


He did very well to take him, he's young, he can grow a lot as long as he lets him play
If he took him to keep him on the bench he did a huge bullshit, might as well buy him and lend him making him play and improve
if you don't play, you don't improve   
This is an investment for the future, a player with enormous potential but also quite risky because nothing guarantees the performance of a player, especially for a young player who is expected to become a mega star in the future, we have seen several examples of failures in the past. happens in the world of football but apart from that if this is successful it will be very profitable for the team.
I think the steps taken by Barcelona are very correct, they are currently working on a long term project and are also focused on next season which is quite mature and in my opinion it is quite good between the processes and also the focus for next season.

certainly buying young players is always the right solution
pay them little and invest in the future
this is the long-term strategy that always pays off, even if you simply decide to sell players and raise cash
1523  Local / Italiano (Italian) / Re: warlo initiative: wallet a basso costo per tutti opensource on: July 13, 2023, 03:09:52 PM
Il mio problema è che non ho idea di cosa stia facendo.
Io seguo la guida, premendo i tasti che dite voi.
Quando c’è un messaggio d’errore che non è “parlante” è che non risolvo con una veloce ricerca su google, per me diventa impossibile risolvere da solo.

si lo so benissimo amico mio
ma avendo alcune skills con mac sono diventato matto, non voglio ripetere
piglia un vecchio pc, metti una distro avviabile da cd o chiavetta e fai il tutto
non so proprio come farlo da arm e dopo ultima esperienza..
1524  Local / Italiano (Italian) / Re: BITCOIN PUMP! on: July 13, 2023, 12:16:39 PM
NOn e' un problema banale, se Plutosky mi dice come si fa provo con quello script fantastico
o spende indirizzo numero 1
oppure entra in merito un sistema multisig 3/5
sto sistema e' veramente tanto figo, vorrei proprio capire come si fa
1525  Local / Italiano (Italian) / Re: AIUTO - PI Network on: July 13, 2023, 12:15:07 PM
Fortunato che sei riuscito a vendere, tanta tanta sana fortuna (o grande culo come si dice dalle mie parti, o panaro)
Purtroppo queste coin di merda non hanno appunto mercato e non trovi "scambi" normali
Questo altro parametro dovrebbe far capire quanto siano "affidabili" o meno
1526  Local / Italiano (Italian) / Re: warlo initiative: wallet a basso costo per tutti opensource on: July 13, 2023, 12:14:01 PM
non so, anche su macos in teoria avrebbe dovuto funzionare (diamine e' un docker anche li) ma i problemi si sono rivelati stupidi e da os meme
non riuscivo a raggiungere il dev della USB quindi non potevo fisicamente flashare il progetto
e questo mi ha fatto veramente incazzare

non lo ripetero, mi spiace
1527  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: July 13, 2023, 12:11:56 PM

Despite the fact that Victor Osimhen doesn't have a certain release clause in his current contract with the club, Napoli still wants to make over 150 million Euros should the Nigerian striker leave the the club this summer transfer window.
The club's reluctancy not to let the player leave without a huge transfer fee is because of the player's current striking power. It'll be difficult to find his replacement if he leaves now so they need a fee that can give them the financial strength to get a replacement

I don't know if it's worth 150 million, but 100 definitely is
He's a goal machine, have you seen how many goals he scored!? He's also talented and quite young
In my opinion it's a great investment, I would like Napoli to keep it but I don't think it's possible
1528  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: July 13, 2023, 12:10:28 PM
Barcelona have completed Vitor Roque signing finally for a 40 million euros transfer fee. He is only an 18-year-old centre-forward right now. He must be seen as a wonderkid that Barcelona allocated the money they can spend this summer for him mostly. However this transfer won't happen now. The deal is going to be completed officially and he will join the team by July 2024.

It is similar to what Real Madrid did for Endrick from Palmeiras. Not exactly the same though because Real Madrid have no choice other than waiting for him due to age issue in his country. These are all investments into their futures and I wonder which one of these players will develop more.


He did very well to take him, he's young, he can grow a lot as long as he lets him play
If he took him to keep him on the bench he did a huge bullshit, might as well buy him and lend him making him play and improve
if you don't play, you don't improve   
This is an investment for the future, a player with enormous potential but also quite risky because nothing guarantees the performance of a player, especially for a young player who is expected to become a mega star in the future, we have seen several examples of failures in the past. happens in the world of football but apart from that if this is successful it will be very profitable for the team.
I think the steps taken by Barcelona are very correct, they are currently working on a long term project and are also focused on next season which is quite mature and in my opinion it is quite good between the processes and also the focus for next season.

of course it's an investment, but if you do it you have to make it pay off
if you buy it just to buy it, it's money thrown away, if you buy it to keep it on the bench for example
instead if you let him play, he'll make mistakes, sure he's young, but he'll grow up and become even better
1529  Local / Italiano (Italian) / Re: AIUTO - PI Network on: July 13, 2023, 07:50:01 AM
forse sarebbe meglio aprire una scam accusation in merito al progetto, altrimenti diventa molto difficile da trovare, quindi se possibile qualcuno armato di buona volonta lo faccia
e' importante creare anche li un thread cosi si trova
1530  Local / Italiano (Italian) / Re: warlo initiative: wallet a basso costo per tutti opensource on: July 13, 2023, 07:43:45 AM
senza considerare che il raspberry e' su piattaforma ARM, quindi totalmente diversa
sicuramente si potra fare con un poco di sbatta, ma non sono certo che funzioni con la guida che ho scritto

certo che se ti funziona e' tanta roba, facci sapere a riguardo fillippone
1531  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: July 13, 2023, 07:42:31 AM
Barcelona have completed Vitor Roque signing finally for a 40 million euros transfer fee. He is only an 18-year-old centre-forward right now. He must be seen as a wonderkid that Barcelona allocated the money they can spend this summer for him mostly. However this transfer won't happen now. The deal is going to be completed officially and he will join the team by July 2024.

It is similar to what Real Madrid did for Endrick from Palmeiras. Not exactly the same though because Real Madrid have no choice other than waiting for him due to age issue in his country. These are all investments into their futures and I wonder which one of these players will develop more.


He did very well to take him, he's young, he can grow a lot as long as he lets him play
If he took him to keep him on the bench he did a huge bullshit, might as well buy him and lend him making him play and improve
if you don't play, you don't improve   
1532  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: July 13, 2023, 07:41:15 AM
Stefano Pioli, the manager of AC Milan, is doing everything he can to get the greatest amount out of his players. They're probably not in the best possible form, constantly failing to win Seria A games. The team requires a top striker because their frontline is sedentary, which is likely one of their weaknesses, making it more challenging for them to score goals. Divock Okoth Origi failed to put in an impressive performance at Stadio Giuseppe Meazza, not only him but Olivier Giroud but he bounce back after a longterm injury,  indicating that they struggled the previous season. Perhaps Raphael Leao was my favorite in the club with outstanding performance.


exactly, you have to understand that it's not always the coach's fault
he did his best
however, not to make comparisons, but Allegri managed better all Juventus injuries and lack of fitness/athletics Cheesy
1533  Local / Italiano (Italian) / Re: [NEWS] In italiano - Raccolta di link dei media in lingua italiana on: July 12, 2023, 07:27:31 AM
piu che altro entriamo nella zona del capitalismo che funziona
il capitalismo prevede la totale liberta e la mano invisibile che aggiusta i prezzi (tramite la concorrenza)
quando fanno cartello, questo turba il comportamento "perfetto" del capitalismo introducendo delle falle (che ricadono sui consumatori)
anche lo stato a volte turba questo equilibrio, salvando delle aziende che dovrebbero fallire
1534  Local / Italiano (Italian) / Re: E intanto l'hash rate della rete bitcoin ha realizzato un nuovo RECORD on: July 12, 2023, 07:11:55 AM


Considera però che (legge di Moore) i chip prodotti sono sempre più potenti... quindi questo limite è in pratica infinito.
Anche se ci fosse "troppa potenza di calcolo", e quindi blocchi prodotti in tempi più rapidi = aumenterà la difficoltà al prossimo aggiornamento (2016 blocchi).


Non avrei saputo spiegarlo meglio, considerate anche che a "breve" (per modo di dire) potremmo avere i computer quantistici, questo vuol dire che dobbiamo "aggiornare" praticamente tutto a livello di crypt, dai sistemi di sicurezza ad appunto bitcoin. Normalissimo processo di evoluzione, chi non si evolve semplicemente si estingue (lo dico da sempre specialmente verso le banche odierne)
1535  Local / Italiano (Italian) / Re: L'halving è alle porte on: July 12, 2023, 07:09:55 AM
Non sono molto molto d'accordo, giocando con la cacca (oltre al rischio di sporcarsi) si fa solo ed esclusivamente speculazione. Nella speculazione pura ci sta sempre qualcuno che perde qualcosa per esserci qualcuno che vince qualcosa, e state sicuri che il banco: vince sempre.
Pero ognuno e' libero di fare quello che vuole eh.
1536  Local / Italiano (Italian) / Re: [NEWS] In italiano - Raccolta di link dei media in lingua italiana on: July 11, 2023, 11:51:43 AM

Anche perché nei paesi del terzo mondo spesso ci sono le famiglie di persone che lavorano all'estero e mandano i soldi a casa, fare un bonifico internazionale costa bei soldi e se non hai neanche il conto sei costretto ad affidarti a servizi tipo Moneygram (mi pare si chiami così) che si pappano commissioni veramente importanti pure per i nostri standard, figurarsi per gente che campa con pochi dollari al giorno.
Esattamente, tutti i vari servizio tipo moneygram, e famiglia prendono un sacco di commissioni. Con Bitcoin risparmiano parecchio, non poco.
Li ho visto la percentuale di uso di bitcoin é alta.

Basta la concorrenza anche solo potenziale di Bitcoin e questi bastardi di MoneyGram abbassano le commissioni.

Si è visto con El Salvador, dal legal tender in poi Moneygrm ha abbassato le commissioni dal 20% al 4% circa. La quota di bitcoin a qeusto punto è rimasta marginal, ma ora I destinatari hanno il 20% in più da spendere.
Non male direi!




la concorrenza (reale) fa sempre bene
potremmo portare 1000 esempi, come in italia dove gli operatori telefonici facevano la finta (era una lobby) poi entra iliad e iniziano a regalare i giga (infami di merda, devono morire malissimo)

ora con 4 euro prendi 1029109210 gb di dati..
1537  Local / Italiano (Italian) / Re: BITCOIN PUMP! on: July 11, 2023, 11:50:23 AM
~~~~~~
- questione CheckSig, il motivo è questo: la mia famiglia si trova in mano un seed e non sa cosa farci, sa solo che non va dato ad anima viva; sicuramente non vorranno continuare con questa modalità, io la so gestire perchè la so "capire" diciamo, loro sicuramente avrebbero enormemente più comodità e vivrebbero più in tranquillità vendendo i bitcoin o parcheggiandoli presso qualche realtà (si spera) sicura. Da qui la decisione di coinvolgere, se arrivasse il mio giorno, avvocato, notaio e CheckSig e dire "ciao, ho le paroline magiche di bitcoin, vorrei venderli (o vorrei custodirli), mi dite tutti insieme come procediamo? Poi si farà verbale e regolari fatture, grazie". Se decidessero di tenerli in custodia, almeno hanno un'azienda di riferimento, un contatto che si occupa della cosa; se decidessero di vendere, si tratterebbe "solo" di conferire i bitcoin a CheckSig, dar ordine di vendita e ricevere sul proprio conto corrente, poi si chiudono i rapporti, si salda quanto dovuto e si procederà l'anno successivo a inserire quanto necessario in dichiarazione dei redditi. Ho cercato di rendere la vita il meno complicata possibile alla mia famiglia e di limitare il più possibile il rischio di perdere tutto. Ho nominato CheckSig perchè non conosco altro e mi pare una realtà sufficientemente sicura. Chiaro che, finchè sono ancora qui Smiley, mi tengo aggiornato e valuto sempre se cambiare quest'ultima parte del piano, in termini di azienda/società alla quale appoggiarsi assistiti da avvocato e notaio, o eventualmente cambiare completamente piano. Io non ho mai escluso, anzi in realtà a tratti lo spero, di vedere un giorno un utilizzo di bitcoin a tutto tondo, anche all'usarlo come collaterale per prestiti, dovendo quindi per forza conferirli a qualche realtà in quel caso.

Sicuramente, a prescindere dall'uso che se ne potrà fare e al controvalore che avranno, ne conserverò sempre almeno uno privatamente "per la gloria" diciamo, per poter sempre dire "io c'ero" e per mantenere quella sensazione di libertà che non fa mai male :-)

ah tipo gli hai dato i contatti nel caso non riescano
ok
ma perche una azienda e non un "utente del forum affidabile" che fa questo di mestiere (o vorrebbe farlo)
quale garanzie ti da una azienda? in piu intendo
1538  Other / Meta / Re: does the Bitcointalk telegram bots stop functioning? on: July 11, 2023, 07:41:15 AM
i think theymos white list it
Correct.

Quote
i have a statistics scraper bot, but is all broken and not beautiful for me
of course i cant ask whitelist it because have no sense
What do you scrape for this? If it's one page I could get it and share it at loyce.club/other/tmp/babo.html.


ok i tell you what i do, i scrape my last "message" and do statistics about it
is only for have graph about me (and other members of forum)
i can scrape from other site, no matter for me

for example i scrape "number of chars" sections, presence or not of quote/image etc.. not really useful i think (for all) but i am graph maniacs (i have a grafana dashboard for weather...)
1539  Local / Italiano (Italian) / Re: BITCOIN PUMP! on: July 11, 2023, 07:35:42 AM
https://twitter.com/WallStreetSilv/status/1678478770649325568

Quote
Wall Street Silver
BREAKING: European Commissioner Thierry Breton announces that from August 25, social networks will be obliged to immediately delete "hateful content" or "which call for revolt" under penalty of being cut off on the territory..

certo bitcoin non serve, con questi scenari distopici da "democrazie" proprio non serve a niente giustamente which call for revolt loro lo fanno per il nostro bene eh
siamo noi che siamo gente ingrata e non capiamo, dobbiamo ringraziare genuflettendoci
1540  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: July 11, 2023, 07:07:56 AM
There will be no repeated mistakes that Real Madrid will make in this transfer season because we can see that Real Madrid have acquired several young players at not too high a price and left money to take Kylian Mbappe when the time comes.
Many hope that Kylian Mbappe can be present among other players at Real Madrid to be able to take his glory in the champions league later.
Nasser Al khalifi will not let Mbappe move to Real Madrid for free. He had spoken and wasn't happy about the decision of the player to not extend his contract and activate the 1 year renewal option. This put PSG administration in an awkward position and all of them will be convinced that his departure this season is essential for the team since they are the only one losing in this whole story.
Mbappe have a good salary. Real Madrid will get the player for free next season. PSG will lose him once for all for free and this isn't good for them. They will make him move for a good price by the end of this transfer window!


I understood that he doesn't want to, but between the will and the contract and the law you can't do much
you have to play the game of the law which is sometimes in your favor and sometimes not

these childish behaviors make me laugh and piss me off at the same time
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