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1541  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Would You Crowdfund for a Gambler Who Has Gambled Irresponsibly? on: November 25, 2023, 05:12:00 PM
If there's any serious medical condition that's why a gambler need to ask crowdfunding, it is better to explain and elaborate it first or seek medical advice from the experts. In that way, maybe people will help him, But if the reason is about being an irresponsible gambler,  don't expect them to help you. I get it
that it depends on the occasion and reason, If a person loses money in gambling in multiple times to the point that their physical and mental health is at stake, meaning there's really  something wrong, he needs to know in himself that something is wrong and he needs to stop whatever is the reason why he is experiencing this.
Even brilliant individuals fall for this psychological deception. Why should we only ask for crowdfunding? Isnt it about recognizing a serious issue? Gamblers screaming for aid, whether due to health issues or overspending, are asking for help. Avoid labeling them "irresponsible gamblers." In addition to losing money, lives are falling apart. Instead of contempt, we should provide systematic assistance. We must peel back layers to understand mental health and gaming.

Self-realization is crucial. The gambler must face their situation, but isnt it complicated psychologically? "Knowing something is wrong and stopping" doesnt describe profound addiction. Gambling uses the brain's reward system to give consumers a false sensation of control and near-misses that keep them hooked. Professionals must repair many cognitive errors that go beyond grit. Instead of shame, shouldnt society encourage people to seek help? Stopping goes beyond stopping. Understand why and how to stop. Can we overlook this while judging quickly?

The recovery process is quite difficult for the addicted person. And because they need to hide it from the society, they end up swimming in the pool of addiction. The condemnations they get from people, when they try to show the world their problems, keeps them in depression. Friends and family careless about the problems this addicts go through, that's why it's hard to survive such a problem. In the process of trying to show the society the aspect they want to see. The gambler's addiction will be left untreated. Thereby exposing the player to bigger risks of addiction. Right, even when the money is given to them, they won't know what next to do, other than gambling. Why then do people blame them, if we can think deeply, it's common to understand that these things ain't done outrightly. The hidden processes that led to the bad behavior, grew out of the fear of what people would say. After discovering that they're now addicted to gambling, the brain would deceive them not to open up, that they can settle it on their own.
1542  Economy / Gambling / Re: QuitGamble.com - Free Help for Problem Gamblers on: November 25, 2023, 03:53:55 PM
The Australian example is only an example of the wise behavior of state agencies regarding control of one of the most sensitive sectors in the economic fabric.  In addition to the large percentages that the state deducts from the profits of these companies, the sector also provides important operational capacity and creates jobs.  The real stake for the state remains in its ability to balance the profits made by the sector and the repercussions it causes.  The gambling industry does not cost the state as much as the cigarette or liquor industry because it is forced to provide health support institutions for those affected by them, while for gambling addicts their health care does not require a large cost since they are affected psychologically and not physically.

You forget that smoking causes both physical and mental problems. Trying to differentiate physical and mental problem isn't possible because they both work cheek by jowls in running the body system. The brain helps the functionalities of the body and vice versa. An injured person can't think straight forward, due to pains. Same for a mentally disabled person. He can hurt his body and also feel disheartened. None is good for any human or better than the other problem. What is important, is reducing the high rate of mentally disabled people in the society, especially, those caused by gambling. As the number of gamblers increase a lot in the society. In addition, any form of illness officially mandates lots of money, not minding the type of illness. Saying the government should focus more on physically ill people over mentally ill citizens, isn't completely proper. The only abstract thing in both affected corporeality, is that mentally ill person; addicted gambler can stay unnoticed. Hence, making the process of tracing him difficult by the government. Unlike a physically ill person, that must be noticed immediately by everyone around them. Addiction takes time before society realizes the problem of the gamblers. I don't think anything, should be the reason why one side of the party won't be helped by the government. So, if the government use the money generated via gambling to tackle addicts and then tobacco money for affected smokers.  
1543  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can old generation cause the habit of gambling in young generation ? on: November 25, 2023, 03:24:58 PM
How can I stop the younger generation in my family being carried away by this and focus on other important things like studies only ?
There are two options:
1. Kick the old people in your house.
2. Move to a new house, country, etc without them.

Don't argue with me by saying moving to a new house is hard, need to respect or care with the old people, don't have enough money etc, that's mean the case will never ever solved except when their time comes.

Hardly can you solve problems these days aggressively. The elderly people will feel harried, due to the hard thoughts of leaving a house, where to go, etc. When solving a problem, endeavor to amicably settle dispute for both parties to remain friends. If Op applies your haughty advise, the chaos can lead the older people to a heartbreak. First they need to be told, about the future impact of their discussion on the kids. Only a feeble-minded person will drive his relatives, neighbors or whoever they're to OP, away without prior warning. You've got nice decision, anything is worth it for the safety of those kids, but they're stages to every action. The two above can be applied when they're too stubborn and doesn't want to stop despite being warned by the OP. Remember freedom of speech. They didn't bully the kids. The old people only are having such discussions, ignorantly. Not everybody is privileged to be as intelligent as you're regarding the effects of discussing about gambling around kids. What if these kids hear similar conversations amongst school peers, without Op's knowledge, he'll be helpless. He should be thankful he's aware of the occurrence of such an open discussions. The aim is to change both the adults and the kids, hence it's crucial to be rational whenever we are hurt and wish to make decisions. Dialogue solves lots of problems, not even daffy behaviors of those elderly people can be exempted. Aggression, worsen issues, and we end up achieving grief, hatred and harebrained results.
1544  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can old generation cause the habit of gambling in young generation ? on: November 25, 2023, 05:52:48 AM
The secret with kids, despite being attentive and wise, they don't cease to obey the most kind of adults. Often get them goodies, engage in different form of exercise with them, could be trekking and dancing. The kids won't have reason to sit around where gambling discussion thrive. Having fun is their major priority, like a utility. Provide the kids with fun events, use it to purchase their loyalty. When you've noticed they are loyal and ready to listen to your instructions, henceforth, share your advise with them. Begin by correcting those who already envision being gamblers like the older generations they've been listening to their lengthy conversations. Follow up with studies, asking kids about their assignments in school. Lastly, instruct them to take siestas, once they get used to sleeping in the afternoon. Nothing will ever attract them to the company of gamblers. They'll begin to think better and act reasonably, focusing on their studies and resting when necessary. Reward their performances in school. It's simple to drive kids away from bad influence. No need rushing it, or advising them to stop being with the older ones. They'll gradually begin to change and start a fresh behavior, once you begin to follow such routines as these. It's just the few I can add, but you're expected to have a unique way as well. Depending on the emotional intelligence between you and the kids. Good you noticed this earlier, and seek for means to save the kids. We can't depend or wait on the government for everything. It's our duty to take it upon ourselves to restore our nation's dignity.
1545  Economy / Gambling / Re: QuitGamble.com - Free Help for Problem Gamblers on: November 25, 2023, 05:33:09 AM
This is similar to what is done by major industrial projects that destroy the environment and benefit directly from destroying parts of the planet’s biodiversity or affecting the natural climate. These projects are required in all countries to support environmental associations and help environmental conservation organizations preserve the environment that they themselves destroyed.
According to this basis, gambling platforms can be asked to support project initiatives that seek to help addicts overcome their medical condition. Not all of the gambling industry is supposed to engage in this approach, especially online platforms, but the authorities that grant activity licenses to these platforms can impose on companies wishing to obtain an activity license to do so.

If they wish doing so, how is the uniformity, is everyone gambling still going to be under their watch, influence or regulations, if the gambling platforms cannot help in this situation and also, yet the government cannot as well perform anything that can bring alot of changes i this regard in solving gamblers problems, the best solution is not to create an avenue for it all to start in the first place.
I am not saying that it is the responsibility of companies in the gambling market to solve the psychological problems of gamblers, and these companies cannot be held responsible for this. Companies that manufacture cigarettes are not responsible for those who die from cigarette consumption.
The idea is for state institutions to contribute to achieving balance because this industry has destructive waste and generates profits for the state treasury as well. Just as the state requires cigarette production companies not to broadcast advertisements in the media and to alert consumers, it is possible to study and apply some ideas in the gambling industry. I am not saying that this is a duty on the state, but they are initiatives that can be studied.

In advanced countries like Australia that produce countless number of gambling addicts; it's the duty of the government to use gambling money to care for the addicts in any way possible. Or they'll lose out lots of citizens in the country due to gambling. Government is trying to regulate gambling ads to help reduce the high rate of addiction, but the publicity that walks along gambling is enormous and can't be controlled. It's now a word of mouth advert, across the world. The problem is the economic importance of these companies, cigarette for instance, helps in the distribution of tobacco thereby generating more money for the country, but the destruction it causes to their customers, isn't worth the wealth. As every country suffers from the diseases associated to the cigarette niche. Also these industries are legalized because at some point, they're not completely bad. So, the fault always goes to the users, who abuse it. In gambling, the government can administer any form of restrictive measures, but citizens can bypass it and abuse the game, to an extent of becoming addicted. Hence, the fault isn't completely on the side of casinos or government. Even if casinos are banned, which is impossible, gamblers will still bet with peers and group of people. Therefore, to build a strong avenue to change or correct gambling addiction, is by focusing on the younger generations and teach them regarding the wrong aspect of gambling. Mainly, learning money management in school can definitely prepare the younger generations to the greater fight of falling victims of gambling addiction.


1546  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Would You Crowdfund for a Gambler Who Has Gambled Irresponsibly? on: November 24, 2023, 08:22:08 PM
And what would you say to those who go ahead to donate to these gamblers out of a sense of empathy?
There are people that have been crowdfunded for other reasons like out of love from people who love them. This people are already rich, but you get to see lots of people who are struggling to survive still donate their hard earned money to these people on celebrations like their birthdays, I find it foolish. These people can crowdfund anybody and anyone, they will not find it difficult if a popular gambler they love who has gambled irresponsibly ask for help in the form of financial supporters.

Multiple criteria is associated to such a human behavior. Many only give money to people, whom they expect a payback, from a different way. Gamblers who lose it all, are seen in the society as irresponsible. Friends still should look out for other gamblers, who they have lesser love for in the society. Because the little rollers still end up losing too much money, amounting to high USD. So, truly, they may need the crowd funding to survive. It'll be difficult to find a community where people would render help to a losing gambler. Unless in situations where they are sure of a return after lending out the money. Other things may include, the character of the gambler after receiving the help. Remember we are looking at free funds here. It's crucial to know if the gambler is actually about to stop or wants to cheat others, by coining out a sweet emotional story. Givers are expected to run a background check before releasing any amount for the crowdfunding. Gamblers can't be predicted, that's why people can easily fund a friend's birthday, instead of trouble gamblers. Due to the risk involved, regarding, if the gambler will manage the funds. Few response above centers on the importance of not handing out the funds directly, to alter any form of misusing the funds to gamble again.
1547  Other / Off-topic / Re: Why the rich win gambling more than the poor. on: November 24, 2023, 08:03:17 PM
I would not say the rich win more when it comes to being more lucky or having more won than lost bets, but they win more because they bet more.

I think that OP and some of the posters are biased. You see someone brag about a large win and think that person must be way ahead now, but you don't consider the fact that while you bet $10 each time, somebody can be betting 10k and then you see that person winning $100k and think - he's rolling in it for sure. But in reality he probably lost at least 50k before winning 100k and you at the same time lost $50. The math is the same for a fish and for a whale, it's the risk that changes. He can take high risk and gets high reward. It's really visible in poker where you can get scared by someone betting high, but for that person it could be nothing.

When they, the rich gambler, win with such an amount, a $50 roller isn't supposed to think biased of the results. As the money wagered isn't a little one, and the rich player's tendency of losing higher amount of money is still feasible. From your example, if he continue losing, the lower gambler can still see more win that day, but his single win is enough to cover for all the losses. Yet the disadvantage, still, depends on the action of the big player when that money comes in. Because it doesn't make any significant different wealth wise, he'll continue playing games, and probably would accumulate more losses. Or big wins. Not minding, whether they feel the effects of the losses or wins, the rich gambler still requires some discipline to keep up with winning in gambling. At that stage gambling becomes riskier. The greed of winning bigger amount after staking 10k, revolves around the player. Like anyone else, who has lost more money in gambling. Especially, gamblers who still care about the money gambling offers. In summary, we get what we give. Not all rich gambler would release huge amount on gambling. Still, it's common to say that the bigger the money, the higher the chances of winning more money. Based on luck. The win of the poor player, can't be compared to that of a high roller, who wins reach.
1548  Economy / Gambling / Re: QuitGamble.com - Free Help for Problem Gamblers on: November 24, 2023, 06:52:37 PM
I think it would be better for casinos too if there were no gambling addicts. If everyone was gambling responsibly, the negative connotation surrounding gambling would disappear and without it online casinos would surely get more customers in the end. After all, their aim is to make profit, not to create problems for people.
I don't think that the negative connotation stops people from gambling or makes new gamblers stay away from it, so that isn't a reason why casinos would want everyone to become responsible gamblers but they would want every gambler to keep spending as much money as they can because they know once the money has entered their bankroll, there is nothing that can take it away from them even if the gambler starts spreading negative news about them.

Casinos, their owners, and the management barely care about gamblers' sentiments or their personal lives. All they care about is their businesses and they are not wrong about that. If I were running a business, I would surely want every customer to come and use my business and products as much as possible since that will bring more revenue for me and my business.

The reason is because the casino have rules, everyone believes an adult should be responsible for their actions or decision. It's not that they don't care about addicted players. Casinos work hard not to accept a banned addict into their casino. Mainly in online casino. Yet players always have numerous methods of bypassing these restrictions. It's the duty of players to gamble reasonably and not fall victim of problem gambling. The casino won't be there to assist anybody to stop playing gambling. That's why OP's website is crucial in changing the lives of addicted players. Not sure if addicted players affects the gambling traffic. Instead it gives it more publicity. Without gambling addiction, the society will honor the business, and maybe a huge number of people would have joined. But, that's not a good idea of any business. It will only reduce the value of gambling and thereby pump money at the initial stage, then later the same people will prefer to stop. Gambling can't be for all the people. Whether it provides less addiction or not. Moreover, people must get addicted to something. No way gambling addiction won't exist, when there is sport addiction. People who must watch a football match to be happy. It's better to have a traffic we can control and satisfy via customer service, than an uncontrollable traffic. Casinos still make money, from both addicts and responsible players.
1549  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The love in football on: November 24, 2023, 05:42:41 PM
Football is a very old game, and has a very historical story, which people interact with and cheer up. It's a very interesting game, with many strategy, which, when applied business wise can help a man. And right from the beginning of the generation, as kids, we all played football and enjoyed watching it. While growing up, we saw adults talking about football. Aside being a game filled with actions; injuries, skills, coaching etc, football always was a top priority game for everyone. I remember watching national games, as a kid, never knew there were any such thing as premier league. World cup and nations cup were the games I enjoyed. Later, I was able to discover that football never ends, each Saturday the premier league also showed up. It all began from tender age and has already registered in the brain. So, we are meant to love football. Additionally, it's a world game, everywhere FIFA controls almost every country, regarding football. Humans are expected to love such games.
1550  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Slot games are a waste of time and money (most of the time) on: November 24, 2023, 04:45:06 PM
Free spins or bonuses should be the waste of time, not slot. As slot games still provide huge profits. But, you may not have won because the free spins are given to players to help market the casino. They expect you to wager on your deposit after losing the $55, as the house also want profits. They need your funds to maintain their website and settle marketing bill and other bills. You'd see that while they care to provide relaxation for players, the casino indirectly take money from players. To run the business, that's where the losses go. Hence, if the house edge isn't well calculated the casino will run out of business. I've read different threads about the irrelevance of bonuses and free spins. It's never worth the time spent, most people lose out with no profit. The initial limit before withdrawal, illustrates the aim of the free spin. To attract players, then encourage them to wager money. Logically, it's impossible to win up to the amount required to withdraw, using 77 free spins. It's just a marketing strategy and many players will fall for it.
1551  Other / Off-topic / Re: Why the rich win gambling more than the poor. on: November 24, 2023, 04:20:17 PM
I have observed that the rich, I mean those who are financially comfortable, win more in gambling than the poor. By poor, I mean those who do not have enough to meet all their needs. I don't know the reason for this. Could it be that the rich understand financial management more? Or could it be that the rich are less desperate to win which make them make better gambling decision? I really want to know the reason for this pattern I have observed.

I can say in sports game it's like that, because they stake huge amount on a single game. While those struggling financially have to book about 10 games and stake little amount of money. The possibility of winning for the player who predicted one game, is quite higher than the other who staked on 10 different games. But, in slot game the rich player needs to understand money management to succeed. As his huge money doesn't mean he'll win big or make profits in slot. The difference is that he'll have more fun, due to his wealth. In terms of being desperate, it has do with personal behavior. Both the rich and poor can be desperate of making more money. Although, the poor person can be very curious to win, for he desperately need money to settle bills. In his case, he'll definitely make mistakes, as he doesn't have a clear mind. Generally, good gamblers can be rich or poor. You sound like every rich person, must win when they gamble. If he's not smart via gambling ethics, he won't win just like a low income person who is not an experienced gambler. So, gambling knows no rich or poor person. What matters is taking the right step, when gambling. Aren't you surprised to hear some addicts who waste huge amount of money on gambling. They were rich, now struggle to clear debts, due to gambling.
1552  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Telegram Casinos good or bad? on: November 23, 2023, 04:51:31 PM
The numerous response of members who haven't participated in telegram casinos, or hearing it for the first time is quite alarming. I've been a member of such channels, and was given $3 to participate. But, have been reluctant about it, as telegram isn't a nice avenue for gambling. Although, the owners are getting nice traffics, seeing bets popping up in split seconds. Was wondering if there are not manipulated. But, the Op here, is beginning to open more insights about the game. I'm quite surprised that a big gambling forum, like this, have members who are new to it. This gives me more reason not to venture into such games, yet. My review funds are still laying in the balance. Don't actually know how it works. Telegram is going to become one huge social media, with multiple use-cases. A lot of crypto related activities can be achieved via telegram. Users still participate regardless of the high rate of con men in the platform, scamming their preys. Anyone trying gambling on telegram should be careful, as most channels don't have reviews, whether trustworthy or not. But, if the idea works fine for a long time, telegram casino will definitely grow bigger, in the nearest future.
1553  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is this a good advice? on: November 23, 2023, 04:28:59 PM
The decision all depends on the gambler, who knows what strategy is best for them? but the most concern is on risk management. Added with money management. We endeavor to stay happy, while and after gambling. When we don't care about our happiness, all because of more money. It affects the gambler, if he losses all his bank in one gambling session. Which is a waste of wealth, on the gamblers end. Hence, the budgetary limit is crucial and we can enforce it by not going to gamble with our cards. The thrill can be deceitful, it's aim is to demand for more money, to remain excited. The hardest part of the thrill, when it end, is going home with nothing to show.
Very common reaction eh? People would really be loving to hear out some advises specially if it talks about on making money. They do gamble out because they are aiming for more
winnings on which we know that in gambling field where luck is really that most important thing that we are really that wanting or need to have.
If you do take someones advise on playing or keep on playing on chasing those wins then its a bad idea for you to follow on because it would really be just that making
you desperate and this is something that we must avoid in the first place.Play according into your own mood and preference on which gambling is really just that
indeed for leisure because if you do able to deal up with it on other means or intent then this is where errors do happen.

And because our luck isn't same with that of the advisor, the player shouldn't do what doesn't work for him. The money is the goal for many, that's why they can easily be swayed from one strategy to another, seeking for whats works like it's SEO. Anything can work in gambling, but not for everybody. What made you to win, can't help me to win. Except it's sports gambling, copying of predictions is allowed. But, for other types of gambling, it's wrong to follow your strategy, especially in slot games. Chasing losses is wrong for any gambler, especially for those whom such strategy doesn't work out for, while gambling. A gambler who is scared of trying again, can follow his instinct and stop gambling. Yet, if he thinks more wins would result out of his bravery decision of playing more, he's allowed to hit another start button. If they'll take the responsibility of the losses, then it's fine. Op shouldn't go for his friend's advise for the regular issue of having to blame them when he gets a worse experience from same idea that spices the days of his friends. Human nature love shifting responsibility and blaming others. Hence, if a gambler wants to be bittered the most, he should confide by the strategies of his mates. It's simple to get over the loss our decisions caused, but not simpler to forget when the fault is from our friends. To be on a safer relationship status with others, we can mind our business; devise our strategies and play according to the mood of the day directs us.
1554  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Two Carreer skill benefit of gambling on: November 23, 2023, 04:04:29 PM
2. Socialization: Mainly the corporate world will call it interpersonal relationship. It's a very crucial skill anywhere we find ourselves in the world. And gamblers who participate in board games, easily develop the skill. When in the office, they'll always socialize and make friends with co-workers.
I do not really see this applicable to online gambling.

Co-workers that are not gambling too can socialize together. Some peoole will have things in common and become friends with another person because of many things the person is doing which is similar to his. This may start because both of them are seeing themselves in a casino but online gambling may not be a good reason.

It can go beyond this because there are other things that make people socialize, especially because they are co-workers and if they have similar way of seeing things right and wrong.

The online gambler can only socialize on social media. As online casinos have boards for users to communicate on the website. But, the disadvantage of online gambling is the issue of not physically associating with other gamblers. I was wondering about the relationship between the other ways of getting those two skills outside gambling and possessing it through gambling. The aim is having the skills, not the medium we got it. I'm only concerned about the importance of gambling as one of those multiple medium. For gamblers who don't possess such skill to be aware of the possibility of becoming better conversationalist, by communicating with follow gamblers in the casino or gambling room. As we can easily discuss with other gamblers, regarding their strategies and ideas. The feeling of getting ignored is quite low while trying to talk, for the first time, to a fellow gambler. So, when players begin to envision that they can actually start a conversation. And end up making it fun for the next person. They'll easily use that skill in their offices. And improve their interpersonal relationship skill. We can't neglect the fact that gambling can offer such skills, because there are other ways of possessing the skill. 
1555  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Changed the game you gamble on? share your story. on: November 23, 2023, 03:42:00 PM
I don't remember playing one game, but I've not changed or stopped playing games like black roulette and Poker, but still find fun in trying out new games under slots. Unless games I don't understand. But, people who stop playing games because they're losing, isn't sure of what result they'll get while playing the new one. The idea should be figuring out what works in the game. Then maximize opportunity for profits. For instance, when playing roulette game, predicting a single number correctly can be very rewarding, but the chances of winning is always low. Hence, choosing the red or black or 1-9 option is a better means of winning. Then once in while the player can try single numbers. During these period of choosing sides that maximize the player's profit, he'll still enjoy the game. It's always demoralizing to continue losing, with no chances of winning. Different games have unique methods players can utilize to maintain a winning possibility. Therefore, moving from a specific game to another, will only, at first portray a sense of new interface to the player. Then, moving on, he'll still lose out like in the previous games. Change of games isn't a gambling strategy. It's all same gambling, but different rules and interfaces. Nothing changes. Regarding the rewards or wins.
1556  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Would You Crowdfund for a Gambler Who Has Gambled Irresponsibly? on: November 23, 2023, 03:24:42 PM
I wouldn't be interested in doing the crowdfunding for him since he didn't make a mistake or scammed out of his money but he gambled it away in all his senses possibly out of greed and he deserved to learn his lesson. However, if I feel that he is extremely ashamed of what he did and in severe need of funds, I might do it but only on one condition, that the funds will not be in his possession and will go directly to the cause that he is worried about because I wouldn't trust him to do it if he has the funds and can gamble them away as well.

I have seen a lot of such cases where people lost money that was supposed to be used for something important in gambling only because they thought they could make more money with it and then keep the extra money and use the actual amount for what it was for and lost the money and then regretted it badly.

Handing out financial help to an addict is quite inadmissible. He'll go back to where he stopped, and waste the money. How is he going to fund back the money, to the lender? I think the person who deserves such help, could be a new gambler, with less experience. If he shares a polite, moral and logical true story, explaining how he got carried away. Then, people can help out, especially, when he's a modest person, looking to begin a fresh habit in gambling. The right thing is your suggestion. Endeavor he doesn't get it directly. As we can't for sure determine his level of inattentiveness in becoming a changed person, or whether he's being swayed by somebody else. And he's got the begging idea to deceive people. Unless his loss dropped him in an inconsolable situation, the player wouldn't deserve any direct help at the moment. Therefore, those who are in the disposal of helping, should be careful with their decision. Because, if neglected because of the multiple factors that qualifies the gambler to be lying. It could be an expensive mistake on the helpers end, broken, immature players are very vulnerable. And could harm themselves, from the thoughts of losing out all they've got in gambling. Many times, when people are genuinely interested in changing through their mistakes, they're being judged by the actions of others who were in similar problem in the past. And we end up regretting our hard decision on the person. By not helping them, I think once we're sure he is sincere, and promises to pay back, he should be helped.
1557  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Has anyone been able to make steady income with gambling ? on: November 23, 2023, 03:00:59 PM
Has anyone been able to make steady income with gambling ? If yes, what had been your strategy ? Do you diversify to multiple games in order to ensure that end result is always profit ?

I personally feel that there are very less chances of making a steady income with gambling. In fact, if you win a big amount in gambling, from there on , you should play games with less on stake and keep the winnings invested in some good option like crypto. It is important to have self control to end profitably with gambling ventures online. Do you agree with this ?

Not sure if anybody would say yes to this question but many would say that they have been able to make steady losses with gambling  Grin .
It has been discussed many times earlier to conclude that steady income with gambling is not possible because of the house edge.

Some house edge is 98% while other nice casino can take 97%, It's only impossible to gain steady income from a casino that has a house edge of 100%. The way professionals go about it is by, first discovering the house edge of the casino. Then calculating, the house edge with their bank roll, can help the player, determine what's on the table to profit. Definitely, a frugal gambler has a slim chance of profiting from the hideous structure of house edge. Constructed to always milk profits from unconscious gamblers, who don't research about the house edge of the casino they patronize. So, it's rare to make steady income via gambling. But, concluding that it's impossible is not right. Players with high bank rolls make this possible. And earn steady income. I'm sure of the losses that follows after winning big. The whole money still goes back to gamble. Smart gamblers should be aware of the importance of being street ahead of the house, unlike the inane thought of regular gamblers, losing control after few wins. Our moves at all cost, should be calculated. When to take a next step and the right moment to stop for the day. While away, gamblers are expected check in and out to figure out their mistake. Not to repeat similar unrealistic strategies. The hard work required to make steady income through gambling, had, gamblers trust the famous saying that it's impossible to switch their gambling habit into a full time job.
1558  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you believe in psychic betting? on: November 23, 2023, 02:24:04 PM
Do you take these Psychic predictions seriously?

Nah, I'm more into racking up wins on the regular rather than banking on a one-time jackpot. Skills are my own tool for securing those victories. If I ever think about trusting in a psychic, it'd probably be for a lottery shot. But let's be realistic, it's all just wishful thinking. Being too grounded in reality when it comes to gambling and leaning on skill-based games makes more sense to me.

Truth be told, if this psychic power stuff were legit, we'd see a ton of folks swimming in riches, including those psychics themselves. They'd be cleaning up at the tables and cashing in big time. So, in my book, it doesn't add up.

Gambling can't be predicted correctly at all time, even the psychic can't maintain consistent winning. That's why believing in such things won't be reasonable. A responsible gambler is meant to possess his personal skill. Which works in yielding him wins. Those spirituality aspect of prediction, can work maybe twice. And stops. A typical reason why many gamblers who initially, patronized their services, don't go back to them anymore. Although, few lotto players get lucky to see random opportunities from a physic's prediction. With the few people that talked about winning through their prediction, it's certain that the condition of the psychic won't let them to participate in gambling. Many of them spend time alone, communicating with the outside world. As they claim to see the future. Hence, it's still okay, you don't see a lot of them swimming in riches. Where I disagree with them, is, the gamblers who visit them, should have been the richest amongst other gamblers. Making lots of profits from sport games. Addition, to what you said, gambling requires our brain power, and time to analyze games. The psychic aspect of it, still relies on luck. Because the event hasn't occurred, what the seer saw could be changed or just a hallucination. Risk also follows it, the player can stake whooping amount, believing that the seer is 100% accurate. I don't think it worth the stress. Gambling should be natural. Players shouldn't go extra mile, other than enjoying their habits. The predictions initiated by us, can be very accurate. And that of a psychic, flimsy.
1559  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Would You Crowdfund for a Gambler Who Has Gambled Irresponsibly? on: November 22, 2023, 11:49:30 PM
It's quite difficult for such a gambler to get the financial assistance they seek. In the online gambling community, people are told to gamble responsibly. Hence, when they refuse to adhere by the primary advise, others would hardly help the person, in need. The question is close to the incident of a boy who played his school fees and rushed back to the casino to forgive him and fund him back. Seriously, these players, as fellow gamblers, already are known to waste the money. I don't think anybody will crowdfund an irresponsible gambler. They're possibilities he isn't a gambler and manipulates the results to gain pity online. If it's a person I've known, and their behavior proves otherwise. He may get a different treatment. But, online on social media; the society are more likely to ignore the player. Unlike in the real life situation. Once he finishes from the environment and doesn't get any support. I don't think, the gambler would find love elsewhere, online. Reasons, behind this carelessness on the gambler. Is to teach him of the importance of managing his money properly. Doesn't it look inappropriate to wager our house rent, school fees etc on gambling.
1560  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 9 Years Before He finally claim his lotto rewards on: November 22, 2023, 09:54:35 PM
My questions are :
Do you think it's worth the wait, he's getting 6% interest per annum but he still has to pay a lot of money and suffers a lot even to the point of having a rift with his daughter
Will you do the same thing and fight for your rights to claim the prize
The price is quite huge for an average individual who hasn't figured it all out yet so I will say it's really worth it because that money will goa long way to help him fix certain things and I feel it will definitely be enough to cover up for all the damages incurred in cause of the fight.

Honestly nine years was really along wait and it did took a different kind of patience to still be on the case but the end did justified the means, it was really worth the wait and fight, personally I would fight for my prize but honestly how long I will stay in the fight is one thing I can't really tell for now but then the amount was worth the fight and the six percent he is to receive annually is a plus which adds up to still be a fair enough deal.

Out of context, I'd like to know if you'd use the same phrase on bold, if the lotto company won the case? Following up a case, isn't simple and the long duration it took him to win, describe the man as a never say never type of person. I've read lots of gamblers attesting to the strong persistence of the man. With the look of things, he's not alone, but many gamblers would have given up the funds long ago. Or maybe gamble with the funds he used in pursuing the case. Was wondering, if he still gambled while fighting for his justice. Could it be his retirement plan on gambling. The stress he passed, may not let him consider gambling again. He wouldn't want to come across similar troubles in future. Grown people are always strict about their decision. If he did stop gambling, it'll be great for him. Maybe it's a away of granting him indefinite break on gambling. On the other hand, the court did their best, by mandating a 6 percents annual payment of compensation.
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