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Author Topic: Gambling for fun, is it a lie that we tell ourselves?  (Read 1037 times)
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January 04, 2024, 11:40:45 PM
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If the gambler consider the gambling for the entertainment,their loss of the money also doesn’t affect him.It also allow the gambler to avoid of the gambling without any emotional distress in the game.So finally the gambler will get more chance of the winning due to play the fair game in the gambling site.The gambler only know this fact that the gamblers who play the game with the idea to win the game,he will not win at the end.The reason was the emotional interference of the game at the losing the entire dollars or make the gambler to get stress at the small dollar of the loss of money at the initial stage of the game in gambling site.
That's right, viewing gambling as entertaining will make our minds more comfortable. We are not affected by psychology, if we win we get money, if we lose it's okay.
Emotions are very important in gambling. I feel smarter when I gamble with a relaxed mentality and foolish when I impose victory on that bet. At that time, I no longer thought about the strategy to play that game well, to win. At that time, I felt we gamble with emotions, leading to a higher loss rate. The best way is to stop playing at that time so that when your mind is clear, it is not too late to play.

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January 04, 2024, 11:55:36 PM
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I know that it's said that you should gamble the amount that you can afford to loose, but will you call it a true fun when you know that there's a higher probability of losing your bet?

Don't believed at these people who are claiming they are only gambling for fun. They didn't realized that even they only lose a small amount on that day, those losses are increasing day by day. It's not fun to lose. It's not fun to always lose. It's not fun to have a losing streak consistently.

Instead, make our gambling serious and focus on how to win. If playing on games based on luck, focus on bankroll management.

It's good to have fun while winning. Can't imagine these are some people that after a loss, they will say they will just gambling for fun so it's ok to lose but deep inside they are in regret and dissapointment to not experience even a big win.
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January 04, 2024, 11:58:45 PM
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I know that it's said that you should gamble the amount that you can afford to loose, but will you call it a true fun when you know that there's a higher probability of losing your bet?

Don't believed at these people who are claiming they are only gambling for fun. They didn't realized that even they only lose a small amount on that day, those losses are increasing day by day. It's not fun to lose. It's not fun to always lose. It's not fun to have a losing streak consistently.

I played for fun for a few years, and I kept track of every single loss I incurred for that time period. It never really mattered to me, as the money I have used on those two years, I consider disposable and can be earned easily. I only played in the casino because I somehow 'need' to kill time during the weekends, and gambling has helped me achieved that goal somehow. Eventually, I stopped gambling regularly and focused on trying to get some profits off of this activity that used to be 'fun' for me.

There are people like me who really gamble/gambled for fun, and most of us have our finances checked and only see gambling as something to entertain ourselves.

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January 05, 2024, 03:20:36 AM
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I believe that for some people, gambling becomes a serious matter when they lose a significant amount of money, and it no longer remains a form of entertainment. However, there are still those who view gambling as a form of leisure, akin to playing cards with friends, right? Sometimes there's a bit of disagreement or discomfort, but ultimately, it brings a certain joy.

I think the key here is to control emotions and set a specific amount of money to engage in the activity. When playing with a small amount, it still provides a certain thrill, and if you lose, it's not devastating because the lost amount is manageable, and in return, you've had an enjoyable gaming experience. On the other hand, with a large sum, it can sometimes go beyond your control, making it hard to find joy, and the pressure is immense from the start. Therefore, in my opinion, gambling remains enjoyable for those who know their limits and can control their emotions.
I think this depend on the money they have if they are rich people losing any amount of money to gamble will not be a problem because the goal is to have fun while enjoying drinking with friends. Whereas for those who have barely enough money and lose large amounts of money I'm sure the fun will turn into a serious problem, basically gambling is created to have fun, but for those who have just enough money, they tend to rack their brains so that they can use it for gambling because who knows, their money will double even though they should have realized from the start that it's fun from the start it will turn into disappointment if they don't get the result they expect.

Yes, I agree with what you said, that the main key for us to still have fun and enjoying gambling is to set limits that we can afford, we can still win if we are lucky, even with less money, and we can still have fun without having to experience a lot greater pressure or risks of defeated.

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January 05, 2024, 04:08:47 AM
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I played for fun for a few years, and I kept track of every single loss I incurred for that time period. It never really mattered to me, as the money I have used on those two years, I consider disposable and can be earned easily. I only played in the casino because I somehow 'need' to kill time during the weekends, and gambling has helped me achieved that goal somehow. Eventually, I stopped gambling regularly and focused on trying to get some profits off of this activity that used to be 'fun' for me.

There are people like me who really gamble/gambled for fun, and most of us have our finances checked and only see gambling as something to entertain ourselves.
that means you really enjoy the gambling you have. and the losses you suffer will not have an impact on your finances.
Gamblers should be like that, but we cannot deny that there are quite a lot of gamblers who are more obsessed with making money from gambling than having fun.
I personally have felt that I had to win in a bet, because of certain circumstances. Thankfully it worked, but it didn't make me use gambling as a place to make money.

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January 05, 2024, 08:38:52 AM
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There's only just two possible reasons which it is really just that for fun or for money. People usually be changing up those thoughts midway specially into those who do really have those kind of greed inside
on which we know that not all people would really be having that good control towards themselves when it comes to this aspect on which there would really be those people who would really be just that simply be changing up their thoughts and targets instantly on the time that their greed would kick in. Its true that we do really lie to ourselves that we are really just that playing gambling for luck and entertainment but deep inside
they are really that aiming for making huge money or profits. Who doesnt really like that? It is really just that there are people who can and cant control their emotions.

This is where people do usually mess up on the time that they arent making those sensible actions on which they are really that doing it excessively and they do really able to keep
themselves getting blind until they do wreck themselves.
I do believe that we are going to end up with someone with a lot of different approach, like one day he is gambling for fun, another day gambling for money, it is not going to be the same at all times. But, there are also some people who gamble for fun and that's it, they never gamble for money and they only do it for fun or there are people who gamble for money and not for fun at all and they end up losing a lot of money and still try to recover that and not for fun at all.

So, it is not easy to put all the people in to one label, there are so many people in the world and that many opinions on gambling as well for each person, we can't just say one thing about ALL the people in the world, it would be wrong for so many people, while being right about a few.

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January 05, 2024, 09:11:01 AM
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I said it wasn't a lie. we are not kids who watch cartoons anymore. if you ask what entertainment is for adults and what do we discuss among our friends? Of course, gambling is one of the ways we have fun. As long as we haven't become addicts, we still have common sense and can still control how to go gambling in our free time, there is always fun. unless we consider this is the main job to earn money, how many people I have even seen are in debt because of gambling. They take this kind of game too seriously which should be used for entertainment and fun.

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January 05, 2024, 10:17:13 AM
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Gambling should really be for fun but people do mainly be failing out on sticking into that principle specially that you do saw that money making or earning could be possible through this.
On the time that you would really be molding up this kind of impression, then this is where things turns out to be shit.
as I said before, this is only about the mindset of the gamblers, if they understand and consider this to be just entertainment, they will never get worse because they really understand what risks they will get and what they must avoid so as not to get the risk is too big. well, if gamblers can have a mindset like this, they will definitely ignore any negative things and any temptations in gambling, they will still be able to control themselves and hold tightly to their commitment to continue to be safe gamblers and only test their luck with small amounts and always consider this is just a moment of entertainment.

but even so, most gamblers always think that gambling is to get a win or profit and I really understand this condition because anyone can be tempted and lose control and change into a bad mindset of hoping for a profit because we bet using money and no one can capable of losing his money and when tempted by a winning streak a gambler loses control and turns to a greedy mindset and will end up losing all his winnings as well as his budget.
a mature mindset is very important in gambling and we must understand this if we want to continue to be safe gamblers and always be able to enjoy every betting session.

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I said it wasn't a lie. we are not kids who watch cartoons anymore. if you ask what entertainment is for adults and what do we discuss among our friends? Of course, gambling is one of the ways we have fun. As long as we haven't become addicts, we still have common sense and can still control how to go gambling in our free time, there is always fun. unless we consider this is the main job to earn money, how many people I have even seen are in debt because of gambling. They take this kind of game too seriously which should be used for entertainment and fun.
I can explain this in a way that I think everyone can understand, because we did it, when the PS First came out , we Played , and if we didn't have our Own PS then what we did was go play in those places. to pay by the hour and that sometimes gave us a lot of Happiness and even so we became more experts at playing, of course the bears are Quite good when it comes to this Type of Games , now When we are in a Casino , we know the Duration of the The number of games is not the same as that of a PS, but it can be considered that many people can go and play just for Fun and it does not Matter to them how much they spend , if they are a very wealthy person then it Does not matter to them to spend a lot , if they are a person who has Little money or that it is from a somewhat low or Average economy because one takes more care of one's money, even if the person can Afford to Play with little money, make sure that if he Loses he still assumes his Defeat , but if he Wins, the Things change a lot.

So I think that the core of all this is that Bears can be Different , because when there are other interests involved things can manifest themselves in other ways, that is, if there are things that give hope to the people of the game and of to win and increase their money, because they will always be there, a clear example is the person who Always Plays in Raffle lotteries , they Always have the same hope that they can win and that is something that Cannot be taken away from them, they will always defend that position and it is something Respectable , I don't think there is any other way of looking at it better than that, so the Difference must always be made with Respect to it, I think that things are not always about doing them well , because the Best has to be Considered , To establish things , I would say that when a person plays in a casino they will always imagine themselves winning all the time and under any Circumstances , I do not see that a person enters with Negative factors to lose.


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What gamblers feel about gambling is not expected to be the same, due to the need that led a person to participate in gambling. It's not to be a general problem, like Op thought. The goal of gamblers in some age brackets would be for money, while others thinks it's fun, and the rest only play to master strategies that can be implemented in life. Although those who play for money have a big PR and are populous. Casinos also use their PR to create more awareness about the business and yield more customers. If a gambler is for the fun, he'll get it and enjoy his money while gambling. Anxiety only erupts when the gambler is after money and doesn't enjoy his money. Because it's as if he's paying to earn more money or investing his money for more profits. They see gambling as a business and end up feeling that those who enjoy gambling for fun are not or lying about it. I'd conclude that it's just a misunderstanding.
Gamblers don't feel the same when they gamble, and that's because they use different gambling games, so they get different experiences. But when they lose, it is the same as losing money at the gambling table, and even though they try to recover their losses, it will not be easy for them, and they can experience even bigger losses. Those who really aim to make money from the moment they start gambling will probably experience more losses than other gamblers because gambling is not a place to make money but just to have fun. Gamblers should be able to choose to have fun rather than win because there is uncertainty about when they can get that win. It is also true that those of us who have lost at gambling are lying if we have enjoyed gambling, and that is what is experienced by those who try to chase their winnings. But those who really aim to have fun from gambling just feel the pleasure and don't think much about the losses they experience because that is the risk of gambling.

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January 05, 2024, 05:57:52 PM
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I said it wasn't a lie. we are not kids who watch cartoons anymore. if you ask what entertainment is for adults and what do we discuss among our friends? Of course, gambling is one of the ways we have fun. As long as we haven't become addicts, we still have common sense and can still control how to go gambling in our free time, there is always fun. unless we consider this is the main job to earn money, how many people I have even seen are in debt because of gambling. They take this kind of game too seriously which should be used for entertainment and fun.

Yes if you are a gambler then you need to emphasize to yourself that gambling is "one" way for you to get pleasure and not "the only way to get pleasure" why is that? because obviously it's not uncommon for me to see lately a change in mindset and perspective happening unconsciously, or I mean someone who initially only focused on gambling for pleasure but because they made gambling the "only way to find pleasure" then obviously it has the potential for a change in mindset so maybe you already know what will happen when someone becomes more serious in their gambling involvement, no longer pleasure but always trying to recover the situation to break even.

That means that we still have to be very careful and also be more assertive in applying some boundaries and self-control, it is not impossible because the possibility for worse things will still remain in gambling in addition to the many temptations that are there that can clearly make us fall slowly without realizing it.

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January 05, 2024, 06:19:18 PM
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Gamblers don't feel the same when they gamble, and that's because they use different gambling games, so they get different experiences. But when they lose, it is the same as losing money at the gambling table, and even though they try to recover their losses, it will not be easy for them, and they can experience even bigger losses. Those who really aim to make money from the moment they start gambling will probably experience more losses than other gamblers because gambling is not a place to make money but just to have fun. Gamblers should be able to choose to have fun rather than win because there is uncertainty about when they can get that win. It is also true that those of us who have lost at gambling are lying if we have enjoyed gambling, and that is what is experienced by those who try to chase their winnings. But those who really aim to have fun from gambling just feel the pleasure and don't think much about the losses they experience because that is the risk of gambling.
Some games can be more fun and exciting than others. But I think it important to remember that losing money can feel the same no matter what game you are playing.
Some gamblers try to get back the money they lost but this can lose more money. It is important for people to know that gambling always has a chance of losing money no matter what game they play or why they play it.
Gambling can be fun but it is important to be careful and nevet lose too much money which may effect on you personal life or on you mental health.

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January 05, 2024, 06:27:37 PM
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I know for sure that if we take periodic account of how many times that we gamble, maybe weekly, monthly or yearly, we'll find out that the loses are far greater than the winnings, so I sometimes wonder how we can be indulging in something that we lose far more than we gain, in the name of having fun. I know that it's human nature to want to conquer, defeat, control and be the leader, yet we go into gambling knowing that the system doesn't give us a fair advantage of achieving these aims, yet we're happy to go back and likely be defeated again.

Perhaps deep down in our conscience, somewhere that we don't like to listen to, it still tells us the truth that the reason why we're going to gamble is to hopefully win money, not really to have fun.

I know that it's said that you should gamble the amount that you can afford to loose, but will you call it a true fun when you know that there's a higher probability of losing your bet?
In gambling we don't expect having the statistics of gambling especially the winning aspect to be higher than the losing part of gambling, its very obvious that gambling have to do with different ways and you have to know the measures that is suitable for you before you venture into gambling because when you don't have a budget for gambling you will end up using your savings for gambling, many people today never cross check their last year expenses in gambling and their last year profit in gambling, so many people do say that its not necessary to make such statistics of gambling annually
Because of that impossibility pf having a higher winning rtuo vs the loses that the reason why it necessary to gamble with the mindset that you lose and lose,  then win +lose which is why we have advocated for responsible gambling and for that to happen a gambler must first of all have the mindset of gambling just for fun and not the winning at all time,  winning os part of gambling but the ability to understand the house edge is what makes you a smart gambler.

Some take gambling as win at all time event,  meanwhile in reality it not so and those who have such mindset are always disappointed in the end when they imagination fails to come to reality,  one they record loses more than their win at some point in time.
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January 05, 2024, 07:16:58 PM
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I know that it's said that you should gamble the amount that you can afford to loose, but will you call it a true fun when you know that there's a higher probability of losing your bet?
no problem at all. I am ready to lose the amount that I bet on the bet. I wrote about a similar situation in another topic. I prefer betting on sports events and depending on whether my favorite teams are playing, I can place a bet and it will not be a big disappointment for me when the bet is not will play, it’s just a hobby. There are periods when teams don’t play during the season (training/holidays) and at that moment I have no thirst for bets.
So yes, there are people who take gambling very calmly if they don’t place big bets.

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January 05, 2024, 07:38:27 PM
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I said it wasn't a lie. we are not kids who watch cartoons anymore. if you ask what entertainment is for adults and what do we discuss among our friends? Of course, gambling is one of the ways we have fun. As long as we haven't become addicts, we still have common sense and can still control how to go gambling in our free time, there is always fun. unless we consider this is the main job to earn money, how many people I have even seen are in debt because of gambling. They take this kind of game too seriously which should be used for entertainment and fun.
Gambling is really fun for those who don't take it very serious every game must end up to be wins, when you understand that gambling is all about lose and win, because of how unpredictable the results is you wouldn't want to invest more than you can't afford.  When you take gambling as hustle, it won't be seen as something funny for you, it will be expected that every game must end up to be win. For gambling to be seen as fun for gamblers they need  to build their mindset not to see trading as a source of income,  with this their won't be any emotions attached to it even if their is a lose.

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January 05, 2024, 09:37:02 PM
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Gambling for fun is an honet lie we tell ourselves just to get going and satisfy our conscience to the degree to which it keeps us comfortable and allows for us continue indulging until a possible win is achieved.

There is and has not been anyone who gambles without the expectation of winning, irrespective of how much was used to gamble. If then the reason for gambling is to win then what jusitifis it as fun, nothing but self deceit.

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January 05, 2024, 09:45:41 PM
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I said it wasn't a lie. we are not kids who watch cartoons anymore. if you ask what entertainment is for adults and what do we discuss among our friends? Of course, gambling is one of the ways we have fun. As long as we haven't become addicts, we still have common sense and can still control how to go gambling in our free time, there is always fun. unless we consider this is the main job to earn money, how many people I have even seen are in debt because of gambling. They take this kind of game too seriously which should be used for entertainment and fun.
Doing this together with our friends is more fun but if we did solely, that tends to change our mindset and we think about winning.
Well, I can admit that not all the time I'm happy especially when losing, I get mad but still I never blame anyone or even myself, I accept it as I understand what gambling is all about.

I couldn't pretend but still, I consider gambling as entertainment which means I'm doing this for pleasure rather than with the intention to win. If I get lucky then it is great but if I lose, it is still okay. 
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What gamblers feel about gambling is not expected to be the same, due to the need that led a person to participate in gambling. It's not to be a general problem, like Op thought. The goal of gamblers in some age brackets would be for money, while others thinks it's fun, and the rest only play to master strategies that can be implemented in life. Although those who play for money have a big PR and are populous. Casinos also use their PR to create more awareness about the business and yield more customers. If a gambler is for the fun, he'll get it and enjoy his money while gambling. Anxiety only erupts when the gambler is after money and doesn't enjoy his money. Because it's as if he's paying to earn more money or investing his money for more profits. They see gambling as a business and end up feeling that those who enjoy gambling for fun are not or lying about it. I'd conclude that it's just a misunderstanding.
Gamblers don't feel the same when they gamble, and that's because they use different gambling games, so they get different experiences. But when they lose, it is the same as losing money at the gambling table, and even though they try to recover their losses, it will not be easy for them, and they can experience even bigger losses. Those who really aim to make money from the moment they start gambling will probably experience more losses than other gamblers because gambling is not a place to make money but just to have fun. Gamblers should be able to choose to have fun rather than win because there is uncertainty about when they can get that win. It is also true that those of us who have lost at gambling are lying if we have enjoyed gambling, and that is what is experienced by those who try to chase their winnings. But those who really aim to have fun from gambling just feel the pleasure and don't think much about the losses they experience because that is the risk of gambling.

Losing money is never funny, depending on what we spent the money on, and how important it'll be to the growth of the person economically. That's the main reason people are told to learn money management through gambling. Because we all have lots of games to participate in gambling. Hence the way we think shouldn't be considered similar, as the motive ain't the same. But, a gambler who possess some money management skill, he'd be able to utilize it while gambling, and on the real life business. Not everybody will ever get the fun via gambling. Some gamblers who understands the purpose of gambling. Don't need to rush to stake games in gambling. Monitoring every move we make in gambling, helps us to learn, while others are bothered about their lost money. The authority has been handed to the player, to decide how he wants to gamble. And nobody should complain about, how he's feeling, when the game get void. Happy or sad.

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January 05, 2024, 10:03:40 PM
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I know for sure that if we take periodic account of how many times that we gamble, maybe weekly, monthly or yearly, we'll find out that the loses are far greater than the winnings, so I sometimes wonder how we can be indulging in something that we lose far more than we gain, in the name of having fun. I know that it's human nature to want to conquer, defeat, control and be the leader, yet we go into gambling knowing that the system doesn't give us a fair advantage of achieving these aims, yet we're happy to go back and likely be defeated again.

Perhaps deep down in our conscience, somewhere that we don't like to listen to, it still tells us the truth that the reason why we're going to gamble is to hopefully win money, not really to have fun.

I know that it's said that you should gamble the amount that you can afford to loose, but will you call it a true fun when you know that there's a higher probability of losing your bet?

The fact that we are losing money should not be a problem for those who argue that they play just for fun.
Think of it this way....

When you go to a football stadium, when you go to watch a film at the cinema, or when you join a club and pay a certain amount each month to use the swimming pool, sports or golf courts, etc... you do not pay for that?

The fact of "spending" money on something that gives you pleasure is completely justifiable, and you should see gambling in the same way.... I spend money on gambling because I feel good when I'm playing.

The only thing that changes in gambling is that we have the "possibility" of getting back the money we spend, in some cases even more than we spent, but the main objective is not that but spending money to have fun.

The problem is when people spend a lot more money than they should to get that fun. Would you pay $1,000 to watch a movie at the cinema? I amnot. But there are those who spend to feel the adrenaline in a single bet. This is not fun

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January 05, 2024, 10:07:53 PM
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I know for sure that if we take periodic account of how many times that we gamble, maybe weekly, monthly or yearly, we'll find out that the loses are far greater than the winnings, so I sometimes wonder how we can be indulging in something that we lose far more than we gain, in the name of having fun. I know that it's human nature to want to conquer, defeat, control and be the leader, yet we go into gambling knowing that the system doesn't give us a fair advantage of achieving these aims, yet we're happy to go back and likely be defeated again.
Looking at your calculations alone, you can see that gambling is not just for the winning alone; both the winning and the fun contribute massively to why people gamble.
 
If I'm gambling and over 10–20 times I gamble within a week or month, I happen to lose more often and no profit is being made, then I will have to leave the game and focus on other things. The fun in the gambling is what will keep me going, if not in a business sense. Such spending without getting anything in return should be avoided.
 
To avoid chasing losses is part of responsible gambling, and keeping our emotions under watch is all part of it. If fun is not in play and all we see is how to make profit, we might cross the line and turn ourselves into addicts.

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