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15441  Economy / Speculation / Re: Big dump, buy the dip on: July 03, 2017, 05:01:46 AM
Hello,

You clearly realised that , we are experiencing a dump. I think it will continue , I would like you though on the lowest bitcoin price in order to buy it.

Share you thougts Smiley

Well the dropped isn't that big and I was expecting that it is going to go down lower $2200 but it looks like it didn't happened. The current price is now at $2,450 and it seems to be ready to be back again at $2,500 and even higher. Hoping that before August 1 price will increase.
15442  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Sending bitcoin without the miner fees ! on: July 03, 2017, 04:42:11 AM
So i was thinking if i send a bitcoin transaction without the miner fee or a very low fee what will happen ? would i get the coins back eventually ? or they will just stuck there forever ! and if that happened how to do that double spend ?

Don't try to send without paying a fee. It's better to pay with smaller fee if you want to try, base on my experience I paid for small fee but the transaction didn't reflect to my wallet and I was worried by that time and the note is unspent. But upon waiting for a while the amount credited. No bitcoin is being stuck, it will be only delayed for process.
15443  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Hold or Sell on: July 03, 2017, 03:27:05 AM
i still hold my btc Smiley i think it will raise nextmonth. hope that will up to 2k8
I still going to hold my bitcoin. It is now dropping but good thing that it didn't crash quickly. The price is only falling for awhile but still it's good for consideration that the price of bitcoin is still high. I want to see it higher than your expectation, it's $3,000 - $5,000.
tha tis good and most of the people are going to hold, they do not want  to become part of panic selling, bitcoin is really getting good support at 2500$ and hope that it will boost from here.

Yes because if we are going to add to the panic selling the price will go down too. And that's why it's better to trust the movement of bitcoin's price and just keep on waiting. The best thing comes to those who can wait, just be patient and don't panic people just keep on hodlin your bitcoins on your wallets.
15444  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: What are the cryptocurrencies to watch out for? on: July 03, 2017, 03:10:28 AM
No idea, maybe you can find an answer in one of the 2 dozen threads that have basically asked the same exact question made in the last 24 hours

Well there's a lot of it in the forum just do the digging for yourself. But just watch out for burstcoin it will be popular very soon because GPU's are already making the miners hard to get. Burstcoin if I'm not mistaken is good for HDD mining I'm still planning about it either but I guess this has the potential.
15445  Economy / Speculation / Re: $10K at the end of 2017? on: July 02, 2017, 09:05:06 PM
Not possible for bitcoin to reach 10k $ by the end of 2017 by looking on current situation of bitcoin in the market, but we say that by the end of this year price will be above 3500$.

At first, I'm optimistic to see bitcoin's price $10k before this year ends. But now with the current price of bitcoin it's becoming stuck at the $2,300 - $2,500. And that's why I think we will not see bitcoin's price at $10k and right now we are going to wait for the day comes at August 1.
15446  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: Site With Accurate Coin Prices on: July 02, 2017, 08:52:03 PM
Most of the people on this forum prefer preev dot com for the price of bitcoin as well as litecoin. However, the price of bitcoin is quite volatile so it can reach up to precision but not perfection. The only drawback is it shows limited list of cryptocurrencies in which there is hardly more than two of those in your list.

Yep I always prefer to use preev.com for checking bitcoins price. But if you want a website that gives an accurate price. I guess you won't see any of them, most of them have their standards and adjustable price so if you want to look so. Just depend on where you will be good, high for selling and low for buying.
15447  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Keep your fiat at hand in order to buy new bitcoin on: July 02, 2017, 08:39:30 PM
Hello everybody,

I have a question :
How do you keep your fiat at hand to buy bitcoin when you feel it's the right time?
Indeed it takes 2 days to get a SEPA transfer on a exchange plateform. So where do you keep you fiat? On the exchange platform?
Yes, I do keep my fiat on exchange platform so that there's no hassle if you want to buy new bitcoins. After selling it is automatically goes to other wallets which only holds fiat and I don't cash it out if I don't have to. I'm keeping my fiat at a local exchanger and it is authorized by the central bank of our country so it's trusted.
15448  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is BTC only for middle and upper economic class? on: July 02, 2017, 08:32:11 PM
hello..Please your opinion.

As we know that Bitcoin is being discussed right now and people hope in their country Bitcoin can be ratified as a legitimate transaction tool. But in my country, only about 3% are familiar with bitcoin. Is this because only the upper middle class knows the bitcoin, or is there any other cause? What about bitcoin in your place?
Bitcoin in my place is popular and there is a lot of people that's entering everyday, mostly people here are always for something to do for part time. And bitcoin is the one they saw , there's no discrimination in bitcoin we are still less because bitcoin is still young but even it is still a young currency, the price is great.
15449  Economy / Speculation / Re: Any long term HODLers increasing the BTC stash by trading? on: July 02, 2017, 08:16:44 PM
I am a long term HODLer and believer in BTC.

I have been adding to my position since 2013. and sold 0 BTC over time.

I admire you for having no sold bitcoin up til now. Because when I started to use bitcoin I had sold 50% of my total holdings.

Obviously I am happy with the development but the worm of greed is always digging in the back of my mind. Could I increase BTC if I sold BTC for some fiat or Tether before correction and add more BTC when the correction ends.

This is a popular way of trading bitcoin, selling it for fiat and wait for the dip.

Are there any long term HODLers who are succesful at employing this tactic of buying corrections? If so I would like to hear your strategy. Thanks.

I'm always wait to sell before a correction happens.
15450  Economy / Economics / Re: Can Bitcoin End World Poverty? on: July 02, 2017, 08:07:35 PM
No, bitcoin is just a decentralized peer to peer payment system in shortly. It is not for to solve poverty
I will disagree, it is not just a payment system but it is now a popular investment which everyone is trying to invest. And if you invested to bitcoin earlier when the price is still not that high then now you had almost 1000% percentage profit. So I believe it can end a family's poverty but the world is big and its hard to believe.
Bitcoin has got multiple usability rather than getting used as a payment gateway. Recent days it's more popular as an investment. I need to ask what's meant by poverty. One who doesn't have the food and basic needs is the poverty. In this situation where he'll go for making an investment. So it can be eradicated if people were educated. So education can be provided by government. In this way a chained process might help, but when it comes to real time implementation it will be hard to get success.

Yes just like what I said. It will only hard to get success if most of the people will doesn't have something to earn or doesn't have a living. That is making poverty. But because bitcoin creates, investments and it also creates employment it's helping to reduce the poverty in so many ways.
15451  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Offline Wallets Vs Online Wallets on: July 02, 2017, 07:54:59 PM
Which of the Bitcoin wallets between the Online and Offline works best?

Offline and Online wallet of bitcoin work best. Each of them has advantages and disadvantages. So I prefer to use them both If I have big bitcoin. I will divided into two equal parts and Put them in Online And Offline wallet.

Yes I guess that's way better to say that it's a better idea to use both wallets. And I'm planning now to cut my bitcoins into half from both places and I want to try it out on how offline wallets are working well but it's better to have a laptop that is only for safekeeping.
15452  Economy / Speculation / Re: When will BTC be at $5,000? on: July 02, 2017, 07:41:25 PM
If it keeps going at this rate I'd expect $5000 by the end of the year.

However there could be all sorts of issues after August 1st which could affect the price positively or negatively.



Bitcoin's growth seems stable so we cannot say that bitcoin will reach 5000$ by the end of 2017, yeah we expect that price will be at 3500$ or above by the end of this year. And yeah we will see bitcoin reaching 5k milestone by the mid of 2018 if bitcoin start growing like grew before.

Well I think when segwit finally makes its way onto the network and the fears of uasf are gone we could see the price shoot up very fast in the next months, maybe we will even hit $5000 before the end of the year.
Possible that's going to happen as there is a fear on the hearts of the investors today. But we'll see this after August 1 or before this day comes but if it didn't happened on that day. Possible that this is going to be seen before this year ends or within the first quarter of 2018.
15453  Economy / Speculation / Re: should i buy or sell today on: July 02, 2017, 07:17:39 PM
top opportunity to buy bitcoins now . but wait until the lowest price like 2000$ .
do not sell your bitcoins if you believed 10,000$ well be here keep buying and holding.
Yes if you are able to buy bitcoins few hours ago. The price was still good and it was at $2,300 but now the price increased again to $2,400 so you did had profit already if you did bought. But if you won't be selling or buying today and you have bitcoin, better to do nothing and just hold it out for so many years.
15454  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Cloud mining/Investing or trading on localbitcoins? on: July 02, 2017, 01:40:58 PM
Each person has different opinion about cloud mining and trading. But when it comes to practical you will make more through trading because start investing 0.01 in cloud mining and 0.01 in trading. After one week or one month compares your earning than you will make more profit with trading only.

It's better to max out your capital in trading because in cloud mining it's possible that before your contract ends you will be earning the same amount of your capital or worst comes worst you will be scammed and will don't have any return from them. As most of them are known to be a scam scheme so it's better not to trust any of them.
15455  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Hold or Sell on: July 02, 2017, 01:13:33 PM
i still hold my btc Smiley i think it will raise nextmonth. hope that will up to 2k8
I still going to hold my bitcoin. It is now dropping but good thing that it didn't crash quickly. The price is only falling for awhile but still it's good for consideration that the price of bitcoin is still high. I want to see it higher than your expectation, it's $3,000 - $5,000.
15456  Economy / Economics / Re: Make money from money on: July 02, 2017, 01:00:30 PM
You have to invest,
One of them is by investing in cryptocurrency.
Select which coins will benefit in the near and long distance, and note their movements over time.
Can also follow ico a project in this forum but you have to learn first about the project that they usung or segment which they give so you have invest

It's all about trading and joining ICO's. Also the one of the best choice in making money from your money is in alt coin mining. You don't have to do such effort because once you have the GPU's or hardware they are automatically going to work for you until it will be broken. But it's up to you on how you will take care of it.
15457  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What are your plans with your Bitcoin? on: July 02, 2017, 12:47:14 PM
My future plan is to collect a lot of bitcoin and hold it for a long time.
I know that bitcoin will stay on top and it will also continue its success.
So let's just believe in the power of bitcoin.

While it is still early just keep on collecting bitcoin, because that's going to be beneficial in the future. And while you are collecting bitcoin learn also to trade alt coins, the power of bitcoin is very good. Power in a way that it's growth is massively growing and many countries seeing it as a good way to grow their market.
15458  Economy / Speculation / Re: will bitcoin fall to 1000$ please prediction crisis on: July 02, 2017, 12:05:15 PM
Possible but I'm seeing it more possible that it will go back at $3,000 and we are going to see it at the peak of $4,000 -$5,000 before 2018. Lets say it will be back at $1,000 but it will be good and stable again at $2,000 just like whats happening for today.
15459  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Best Investments on: July 02, 2017, 07:54:40 AM
i actually believe trading is the best, not just hold btc

There are people that are contented on sticking their investment by holding it. But to maximize your time, trading is another way. Best investments are there and they too many to choose but its up to your contentment and where you are good at. For those new comers, study if you can do both.
15460  Economy / Speculation / Re: Sell or wait? on: July 02, 2017, 04:29:30 AM
Better is waiting i guess. Now the price it's going down rate and it's will be up again i think. just wait or investing it and sell when the rate price is looks to going up again.
Being patient at this times is going to be the best thing to do. If you will panic and dont wait for the right time for bitcoins price to increase, youll lose even more. I will hold, no matter what happens I'm going to keep my promise to myself even at this times of dip.
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