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1561  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: Matchpool - Upcoming Alpha Release on: July 10, 2017, 05:54:27 PM
Guys isnt it a bad timing for an alpha release Cheesy Idk if it still can reach +10k. Hope it will but Im not sure bout that...

I don't think the recent price dump is perculiar to Matchpool project alone, almost of the Altcoins are bleeding, releasing the ALpha platform now won't do much to attract more price, there is sentiment in the market

and due the dump from few days ago .....

just hodl on it , or buy some more Wink
1562  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Suretly - first crowdvouching platform ★ ICO July,11 ★ on: July 10, 2017, 03:20:23 PM
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Oh, please, read about the bounty hunters who aimed to get tokens by completing a part of bounty program in "Media and Articles".



can you provide the link so i can read it Smiley
1563  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Suretly - first crowdvouching platform ★ ICO July,11 ★ on: July 10, 2017, 12:08:51 PM
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Bonuses:
First hour: 70%
First day (after first hour) : 50%
Second day: 40%
3th day: 30%
4th day: 20%
5th day: 10%
i don't why all the project bonuses in the first is so crazy .
i feel that is not that fair to last investor

i am wearing their sind 14 may , more then month i did advertise for them as same as me there are more users who are wearing this sign. so alot of ads has been going on.

and if your late so be it Smiley

1564  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Suretly - first crowdvouching platform ★ ICO July,11 ★ on: July 10, 2017, 12:04:39 PM
Does anyone worry about the presale Sur?

It seems who have purchased presale will have a very competitive based price. A lot of people have purchased with 200% bonus (1ETH = 20 PreSur, 1 PreSur = 2 Sur, then 1ETH = 40 Sur), while purchasing publich ICO in the first hour will get 17 Sur per each ETH.

So, it means based price for people who purchased PreSur will be 0.0025 / 1 Sur. Meanwhile, the based price for public ICO will be 0.0058 / 1 Sur.

> 100%, right?

thats why it was PreIco. if you miss it then pity, go for round 2( thus first hour)  and if you miss that , you can  go to round 3 (after first hour) ect ect

Bonuses:
First hour: 70%
First day (after first hour) : 50%
Second day: 40%
3th day: 30%
4th day: 20%
5th day: 10%


I know what is preICO or presale. However, but a huge discount like that, people who hold Sur tokens with a good based price will dump the market Smiley. That's what I'm worrying Smiley

first off all, they sold for a $ 350K coins , this because to start their idea ... alot of people didnt trust it ( you know , newbie account , no escrow ..) and people who did gamble this is their price .....

and what about the bounty hunters , they get their coins for free much worser Smiley
1565  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Suretly - first crowdvouching platform ★ ICO July,11 ★ on: July 10, 2017, 11:54:57 AM
Does anyone worry about the presale Sur?

It seems who have purchased presale will have a very competitive based price. A lot of people have purchased with 200% bonus (1ETH = 20 PreSur, 1 PreSur = 2 Sur, then 1ETH = 40 Sur), while purchasing publich ICO in the first hour will get 17 Sur per each ETH.

So, it means based price for people who purchased PreSur will be 0.0025 / 1 Sur. Meanwhile, the based price for public ICO will be 0.0058 / 1 Sur.

> 100%, right?

thats why it was PreIco. if you miss it then pity, go for round 2( thus first hour)  and if you miss that , you can  go to round 3 (after first hour) ect ect

Bonuses:
First hour: 70%
First day (after first hour) : 50%
Second day: 40%
3th day: 30%
4th day: 20%
5th day: 10%

1566  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: 🔥[ICO]EncryptoTel: Secure VoIP and B2B blockchain communications infrastructure on: July 10, 2017, 09:12:08 AM
When will you sent a buy wall for us? I wanna get my investment back. Please add it asap, thanks.

Want to hear the answer too, please tell us, OP. I want to cash out.   Sad Sad

Dated July 5 2017:

"As promised by our CEO Roman, we will set a buy-wall of 200k Waves (~1m$ at this moment) between Waves DEX and Tidex ETH ETT market. Investors who want to sell their tokens will able do so at the static ICO price (0.00004700 BTC). This buy-wall will be active for 2 weeks, or until it is depleted, whichever happens first. This should be happening sometime in the middle of the next week. We will notify all one day before that date".

https://medium.com/@encryptotel/weekly-update-b45e530082e5


not fudding orso, but is this not littlebit to late ? i mean the bounties are released and if the wall still there , is it not thinkable that the bounty hunters gonna dump at that wall ??


You are definitely spreading FUD, don't you understand the clause in the statement. The buy wall will only be available for two weeks after the ICO and the ICO has ended several weeks ago, if you do not believe in the long term success of the project at first you shouldn't have invested in the project
This is legit, they will set a buy wall and it has been stated AFAIR in the past right after the ICO is completed.
You can clearly read the link in their medium.

Once again there is a source so it's legit.

my question/ reply was :
the buywallet what mentioned is, was for the unhappy investers, who wants their money back. but if the wall put there after the releasing the bounty , the bountyhunters gonna dump to that wall and when the buywallet dissapear you will get more angry investers and negative reponses to this project....

my 2 cents....
1567  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: WAVES. Ultimate crypto-tokens blockchain platform. on: July 10, 2017, 08:51:15 AM
Blockrent.club
changing property rental forever


https://www.blockrent.club/

What does this have to do with WAVES?

their Tokens are on the waves chain .. however it's kinda smelly.. huge discounts for earlybirds and no info about team and the Whitepaper looks like a Primary School homework

And they don't even have their own thread yet, hence hi-jacking this waves thread!

Guys, think at Riddle coin, so becarefull all...

1568  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: July 10, 2017, 08:25:16 AM
It becomes a phenomenon that the price pump before the snapshot and jump after that.

 Grin Grin

when was the snapshot , i miss it , i did receive coins but i miss the announce of snapshot ?
1569  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Suretly - first crowdvouching platform ★ ICO July,11 ★ on: July 10, 2017, 07:06:17 AM
not for me cause i am on the road, but it doesnt matter , i allready participated on PreIco Smiley ( the bonus was 100% Smiley  )

edit***

i checket bdashboard and is saw this :
One day prior to the official ICO start, preSUR tokens will be converted into SUR tokens at 1 to 2 rate.

so its 200% Smiley  i like it Smiley

No mate, 1 to 2 rate is basically 100% bonus.

your right, but the the PreIco it was 100% ( for 1eth you get 20 preSur) and from preSur to sur it is 1:2  so for 1 eth you get 40 Sur  ( i think Smiley  )
1570  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Do you hate muslems? on: July 09, 2017, 06:27:13 PM

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The funny thing is, there's no need to spread "lies and rumors" about the Koran, the reality is bad enough. However, let's look at what you are doing. You've misrepresented your opponent's argument to make a point you wanted to make.

First you argue that "the only true Muslims" are those that "just read the Koran," then you argue that your opponents, saying "bad things about Muslims," are "spreading lies and rumors about the Koran."

That's nothing but your effort to change the discussion into what you personally want to talk about. It's a quite obvious mis representation and attempt to reframe the argument.

This can't work and is pretty much a joke because as an example, you and I both know it's completely valid to look at the discussion in Wikipedia about Takiyya as a broad and general discussion of the interpretation and use of Takiyya. Your attempt to limit and reframe discussion of Takiyya to one verse from Koran is pathetic, frankly.

thus my opinion / thought counting also , nice to see that Smiley

so lets sum up some :
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there's no need to spread "lies and rumors" about the Koran, the reality is bad enough.

please give me some bad verse ... please come not with pages copy past from anti-Islam sites and do not come with uncomplete verse( you know verses who didnt pullout from his context)  simple one or to verses , so i can reply to it....

but if you not gonna read my reply , say it to me so i dont have waste my time....

most what you guys quote is from Hadiths. you guys see i human act and telling its from Quran....this is not true....

and then :

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However, let's look at what you are doing. You've misrepresented your opponent's argument to make a point you wanted to make.

hahaha , i misrepresent my opponents argument with telling the truth , but ofcourse you will see this way , otherwise it would not fit in your idea about the Quran......

i am trying  to defend here the Quran , not what other Muslims says or do .......
, in Islam are every human being reponsoble to his own deeds ( good or bad) so i have no right to call someone not muslim or not beleaver or beleaver ( as human being ofcourse i have my thoughts what i think whats is right or wrong, but this only my truth , i cant see whats in your head or someone else, so i only can assume ... and guess what assuming is not enough)

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Your attempt to limit and reframe discussion of Takiyya to one verse from Koran is pathetic, frankly.

frankly you dont even know the difference between Quran ( you know the the SOURCE of the Muslims) and hadiths

i give you right , i see so much terror and chaos among "muslim "countries , but again is this the fault of the Quran Huh

and again still no answer to my question again ..... and this way were rolling around a circle.......

gonna try ask again , i know its a very difficult question:

If the Quran ( you know the SOURCE OF MUSLIM) forbid something and some Muslims doing this forbidding thing also , so who is to blame ....
the Book or the Human Huh??
1571  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Yobit INVESTBOX on: July 09, 2017, 05:34:46 PM
i did try it yesterday,

i put 50k doge , and after 24 hour , i checkit and saw this ....

balance is not modified ( orso )

i pm the support about what it means...

btw when i cancel it , the amount is per direct available ....

so gonna try more Smiley
1572  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Suretly - first crowdvouching platform ★ ICO July,11 ★ on: July 09, 2017, 05:18:34 PM
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Crowdsale date: July,11 2017
Crowdsale time: 8:00am GMT

Initial token price: 0.1 ETH

Bonuses:
First hour: 70%
First day (after first hour) : 50%
Second day: 40%
3th day: 30%
4th day: 20%
5th day: 10%

2 days , i think i am gonna miss the powerhour ( firsthour) , cause at that time i am on my way to my day-job.......
I am going to miss more than first hour because i am at work in that time.
It would be better if first hour was on weekend but ok.

Hmmm I see your point. There will be an announcement tomorrow that anybody can deposit your coins before the actual start of the ICO. The dashboard will be activated soon.

 You can transfer your coins even from exchanges, if anything happens (you will miss the happy hour for example) you will be able to withdraw it to your wallet or anywhere you want. If you are at work, you can login to your account and just make an instant exchange of your coins to SUR-tokens.

Will it work for you?

not for me cause i am on the road, but it doesnt matter , i allready participated on PreIco Smiley ( the bonus was 100% Smiley  )

edit***

i checket bdashboard and is saw this :
One day prior to the official ICO start, preSUR tokens will be converted into SUR tokens at 1 to 2 rate.

so its 200% Smiley  i like it Smiley
1573  Local / Alt Coins (Nederlands) / Re: [PRE-ANN] Suretly - het eerste crowdvouching platform ★ICO 11 Juli ★ on: July 09, 2017, 05:15:07 PM
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Welke munten heb jij / geloof jij in?
[/quote]

zullen we deze thread niet vuil maken Smiley

heb je pm
1574  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Do you hate muslems? on: July 09, 2017, 05:06:15 PM

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The "WE" is Western non-Islam people on bitcointalk forums. We've seen Muslims justify stoning women to death, justifying death to the Evil Jews, you name it, it's been publicly posted to these threads. Go back and look through them.

The reason nobody bothered to answer "your question" is no different than the reason nobody bothers to answer someone else's question who posts a religious quote from the bible and attempts to convert people or display their true faith. Nobody cares about the quote from the old book, they care about the way people act and the things that people do.

my advice to you is , learn how to read ...

nowhere i try to convert you guys, i even know its even useless .., again i only react here is you guys are spreading lies and rumors about the Quran....

btw you know what  funny is, i have no right to convert you but you have to right to get rid of my religion ....

so everybody can / may reply to this thread , but not me, cause nobody wants my opinion ( i thought this is an forum , where everybody can discuss)

but i see indeed what kind this thread is.....

so pity how some people cannot handle the truth.....

still no answer to my question, why cause i am nobody....

so be it ....
1575  Local / Alt Coins (Nederlands) / Re: [PRE-ANN] Suretly - het eerste crowdvouching platform ★ICO 11 Juli ★ on: July 09, 2017, 03:49:49 PM
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Ik doe voor het eerst mee aan een bounty, die van Spectiv. Ben benieuwd hoe veel zoiets oplevert. Ga in ieder geval niet meedoen met die ICO. Voorlopig heb ik alleen CoinDash en Suretly op de planning staan. Tezos toch maar vanaf gezien. Die koop ik wel nadat de munt op de markt komt.

Jij?
hmm spectiv is ook geinig ( even op je link geclicked)  ... misschien doe ik wel daar aan mee Smiley

er komen zoveel munten uit , soms is het moeilijk om de bos te zien door de bomen...

ik heb vorig jaar geinvesteerd in Wavesplatform... van 20 cent is het 6 euro geworden en weer gedaald naar €3,5  , mijn advies is ook als je wat btc over hebt ook paar van waves te kopen en eventueel leas het , regelmatig kun je airdrops verwachten in je waveswallet , maar eerlijk is eerlijk 95% zijn meeste coins rotzooi Smiley
die je via airdrop krijgt......

maar je bent goed bezig met je deeelnames aan campagne ,en wanneer rank hoger wordt krijg je meer Wink


Thanks voor je advies! Heb een Waves wallet voor wat Wagerr coins die ik kocht in een ICO. Heb aan redelijk wat ICO's meegedaan. Hoop dat er 1 of 2 een groot succes worden. Investeer steeds tussen de $ 150 - $ 300 per ICO, dus niet al te gek. Heb meegedaan aan Bancor, OpenANX, Dcorp, Nimiq en Civic. Dan dus Suretly en CoinDash erbij en daarna stop ik even. Probeer alles minimaal een jaar te laten staan om dan te kijken hoe het ervoor staat.

Beetje aparte strategie maar ik hoop dat het werkt!

Wat is airdrop trouwens?


nice going ,
airdrop zijn gratis munten die je in wallet krijgt, de ontwikkelaars gevens soms gratis munten weg als reclame...

ik hoop dat het voor jou lukt Smiley , geen een van die munten heb ik Smiley maar dat kan veranderen:)
1576  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Do you hate muslems? on: July 09, 2017, 03:37:47 PM

this is really so waste of my time...
i do now get why you guys think this way, you only see what YOU wanna see, read what you wanna read.....
what i am telling are being ignored, not read it

again what does the book says and what does the human do , where does the book says you MUST lie

What you are saying is being ignored because we know better. We know there are many diverse opinions among Muslims, and that Fatwas often are contradictory in interpretation. You are just one more religious person that thinks only he and his tribe have the "right way of God."

It's a waste of time if you think people on the Internet are going to believe in your religion, because they will not.

darn ,  i didnt know it was THAT hard to read and understand.......


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What you are saying is being ignored because we know better.

what an bullshit , you dont know anything , you assume you know something and even thats is a lie....

like this , i ask you guys what this verse say about taqiya , and this is the only verse its talking about taqiya in the Quran but no mister does it know better even dodging my question and try to redicoul my question...

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We know there are many diverse opinions among Muslims, and that Fatwas often are contradictory in interpretation. You are just one more religious person that thinks only he and his tribe have the "right way of God."

you know what funny is also , i bet in your eyes i am no real Muslim , cause i reject all second rules ( aka hadiths rules) like the ISIS......

and yet i follow the Quran ......

Nobody cares how you do what you think is right. What people care about is that since 9/11, Muslims have done more than 31,000 terrorist and suicide attacks. These guys go to mosques, they get indoctrinated then go out and do their attacks. You know it, I know it. They're Muslims. Don't waste peoples' time trying to argue "They're not the True Muslims, I am!"

We've heard that before. Don't waste your time trying to impress people that "My version of Islam is the RIGHT ONE!" Nobody cares. It's the Internet. As far as I am concerned, any version of Islam is the wrong one. You can leave Islam, you know. There are support groups for people who chose to leave.

The reason I mention Takiyya and lying is not to hear you quote your opinion about the "Right way of Lying." Your opinion doesn't really matter. What matters are the diverse ways of lying that various splinter groups of Muslims justify by way of these verses, and how it may affect us non-Muslims.

Similarly, what matters are the diverse ways of justifying and rationalizing violence that Muslims achieve. Not that you have an opinion that "Islam is peace."

yup your real human feelings coming above:
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Nobody cares how you do what you think is right.

but your thoughts are very important ....pfffff   , what an lame reply , i am not an human so my thoughts is nothing .....
you guys telling lies and spreadding fuds about my religion and if i am pointing the real message , you know what the source of Muslims says , then it doesnt count , cause i do not spread fud or lies..   sooo pity this .... only me my self and i .....

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Don't waste peoples' time trying to argue "They're not the True Muslims, I am!"

second sinds WHEN are you the voice of the people ?? which people Huh  and NO WHERE i am telling that i am the true Muslim, i only say that the hadiths are not part of the QURAN and most of the Muslims are walking the path of sunnah ( willingly or not).

and if you think this is wasting of time, then dont come here , dont read the replys and please do not reply here anymore.....


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We've heard that before.

WHO ARE WE Huh

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The reason I mention Takiyya and lying is not to hear you quote your opinion about the "Right way of Lying." Your opinion doesn't really matter. What matters are the diverse ways of lying that various splinter groups of Muslims justify by way of these verses, and how it may affect us non-Muslims.

is this so hard to follow ?? you ask me and i ve gave you answer , but my answer didnt satisfied your thoughts...... and still no answer to my question , even i made big and readable ....
1577  Local / Alt Coins (Nederlands) / Re: [PRE-ANN] Suretly - het eerste crowdvouching platform ★ICO 11 Juli ★ on: July 09, 2017, 02:48:30 PM
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Ik doe voor het eerst mee aan een bounty, die van Spectiv. Ben benieuwd hoe veel zoiets oplevert. Ga in ieder geval niet meedoen met die ICO. Voorlopig heb ik alleen CoinDash en Suretly op de planning staan. Tezos toch maar vanaf gezien. Die koop ik wel nadat de munt op de markt komt.

Jij?
hmm spectiv is ook geinig ( even op je link geclicked)  ... misschien doe ik wel daar aan mee Smiley

er komen zoveel munten uit , soms is het moeilijk om de bos te zien door de bomen...

ik heb vorig jaar geinvesteerd in Wavesplatform... van 20 cent is het 6 euro geworden en weer gedaald naar €3,5  , mijn advies is ook als je wat btc over hebt ook paar van waves te kopen en eventueel leas het , regelmatig kun je airdrops verwachten in je waveswallet , maar eerlijk is eerlijk 95% zijn meeste coins rotzooi Smiley
die je via airdrop krijgt......

maar je bent goed bezig met je deeelnames aan campagne ,en wanneer rank hoger wordt krijg je meer Wink





1578  Local / Alt Coins (Nederlands) / Re: [PRE-ANN] Suretly - het eerste crowdvouching platform ★ICO 11 Juli ★ on: July 09, 2017, 02:27:36 PM
De ICO start aanstaande dinsdagochtend om 08.00u toch? Dan zorg ik dat ik de wekker zet :-)

dinsdag wekker om 08:00  , man dan ben ik allang onderweg naar mijn werk Smiley( yup crypto millionairs hebben andere leven : )) , ik denk dat ik de powerhour ga missen Sad ,maar ik zag dat ik toevallig ook meegedaan heb met PreIco , das mooi meegenomen Smiley


Haha "toevallig" meegedaan? Hoe werkt zoiets? ^^



normaal doe ik niet mee aan preIco , ik wist niet een dat het ook kon, ik ken alleen ico , zo zonder escrow, en terwijl ik paar keer door scammers ben opgelicht. maar tijdens hun preIco heb ik waarschijnlijk me om laten praten ......

ik zie dat ik zelfs met de hoge eth prijs ben gaan inkopen , 1 eth heeft me 20 suret coins gegeven ....

en ik dacht dat ik alleen met de bounty mee deed Smiley ....


Dat is nog goedkoper dan power hour toch? Wij betalen dan 1 ets / 17 coins.

yup, ik denk dat ook het reden was om toch te investeren ... en eerlijk gezegd vond ik het idee ook wel aardig , mensen die elkaar gaan lenen zonder poespas....

en meestal koop ik geen munten wanneer ik mee doe aan hun bounty Wink

1579  Local / Alt Coins (Nederlands) / Re: [PRE-ANN] Suretly - het eerste crowdvouching platform ★ICO 11 Juli ★ on: July 09, 2017, 02:14:57 PM
De ICO start aanstaande dinsdagochtend om 08.00u toch? Dan zorg ik dat ik de wekker zet :-)

dinsdag wekker om 08:00  , man dan ben ik allang onderweg naar mijn werk Smiley( yup crypto millionairs hebben andere leven : )) , ik denk dat ik de powerhour ga missen Sad ,maar ik zag dat ik toevallig ook meegedaan heb met PreIco , das mooi meegenomen Smiley


Haha "toevallig" meegedaan? Hoe werkt zoiets? ^^



normaal doe ik niet mee aan preIco , ik wist niet een dat het ook kon, ik ken alleen ico , zo zonder escrow, en terwijl ik paar keer door scammers ben opgelicht. maar tijdens hun preIco heb ik waarschijnlijk me om laten praten ......

ik zie dat ik zelfs met de hoge eth prijs ben gaan inkopen , 1 eth heeft me 20 suret coins gegeven ....

en ik dacht dat ik alleen met de bounty mee deed Smiley ....

1580  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Suretly - first crowdvouching platform ★ ICO July,11 ★ on: July 09, 2017, 02:06:39 PM
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Crowdsale date: July,11 2017
Crowdsale time: 8:00am GMT

Initial token price: 0.1 ETH

Bonuses:
First hour: 70%
First day (after first hour) : 50%
Second day: 40%
3th day: 30%
4th day: 20%
5th day: 10%

2 days , i think i am gonna miss the powerhour ( firsthour) , cause at that time i am on my way to my day-job.......
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