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1561  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Can Bitcoin help poor countries? on: October 17, 2016, 09:14:38 PM
I dont think that the bitcoin will help the poor countrys because peopel who life in poor countrys can earn bitcoins becuase bitcoins are very
expensive so i dont think they can buy them.

What a foolish reply , just to troll the post for campaign dont write something foolishly, for helping poor country they dont have to buy bitcoins, Their are so many ways through which you can earn bitcoins so much that you can live life freely from all financial problems.

I have seen their are  so many users who are living their life freely by earning bitcoins through lot of way and now they are free from fiancial problem due to coming to bitcoin and earning nice income

And I see people here saying things like posting on forum for signature campaigns is a job... lol

That's the problem with the world, mentality, common sense, education... Glad to see you know people that are earning money with bitcoin, what are they doing to earn? Services?

Here they are earning through giving their skill work for bitcoin like translating work, marketing products , like this their are so many jobs which are paid for bitcoins, apart from that if you keep watching the altcoin announcement section, you can find lot of new coins are coming which are giving free giveaways from that coins you can earn lot of bitcoins and even do trading and earn extra.
1562  Other / Off-topic / Re: Why do you have Bitcoin? on: October 17, 2016, 09:06:56 PM
I am having bitcoin because it gives financial freedom, i am able to earn online through lot of modes through this forum. apart from this i can also do gambling with getting fear of disclosing my identity.
1563  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Can Bitcoin help poor countries? on: October 17, 2016, 07:27:01 AM
Bitcoin might be able to help reduce curruption on some levels and make it harder for public money to dissappear in the hands of the few (e.g. charity money can be traced on the blockchain and verified what it is spend on).

It's nice to see a comment like that, it can help ALL countries, not just the poor.

Bitcoin can't help an entire country. but it can surely help the person who use bitcoin if he's poor. and if a country have a lot of bitcoin users then it will surely be beneficial and for that country.
bitcoin need some contribution. if you contribute with bitcoin and crypto currencies . they will reward you for sure. but if you think bitcoin should give you fortune without doing anything just because you are a poor person then keep dreaming.

Yeap, that was my first thought: you can do online jobs and receive on bitcoins, so you can have a better $/hour.
but the poorest contries/people don't have access to a computer/internet or skills.

Can Bitcoin or any other altcoin help poor countries?
how? what can be done?
Bitcoin and another coins are never will help the poor countries is exit from their problem because like the countries is becoming a poor country is caused by how their government is managing their country and bitcoin is just a currency and just helping you in the currency area.

Well, the first comment shows to us the bitcoin can help against corruption and that's a big step.
Maybe a altcoin related to education? Other day I saw a altcoin related to chess, where kids can earn playing, maybe someone can make something like that.

Poor countries need a very optimistic government towards new tech so that they can embrace bitcoin like tecnology and support mining bitcoin to generate free foreign currency which they can use to increase their USD holdings to become stronger economically. But most of the poor countries are poor due to corrupt political system and political unsatability and they don't have enough time to consider and learn about bitcoin.

Like a altcoin used as second currency? And instead of big taxes, the government can mine the coin?
Yeap, for sure it's more easily to rich countries do that.

Can Bitcoin or any other altcoin help poor countries?
how? what can be done?
For me bitcoin can't help the country when the country is poor some countrybare populated but if a poor people start using bitcoin probably it can help them to earn money for their selves because poor people is the problem of the goverment and not a bitcoin problem

Sometimes poor countries are explored by rich countries too. oil, diamonds...

Government of the poor countries doesn't have the infrastructure to adopt bitcoin as a currency, neither they have willingness.

Yeap, infrastructure seems to be the major problem. What if some countries, for example 6, set up a union and create a altcoin?
The price will increase a lot if they use it as a secondary currency, the taxes between that countries can go down and heat the commerce
Like the European Union(I don't understand to much about the EU, don't know all the benefits/evils)

Bitcoin cannot help a poor country. I have the following reasons which I would like to site:

Low Internet access - If people cant access internet how will they even know about bitcoin let alone do transactions through it.
Low Security measures - totally insecure to them since they have very low knowledge
Low Fees for miners - This will hurt miners
Low usage - People in poor countries are "Poor" - they need more time to work hard and earn Fiat, since they are poor they would never accept bitcoin as primary source of money and would never believe that it is secure as well.

Yeap, that reasons is a good point.
Now think about that, can bitcoin or a altcoin bring more tecnology to poor countries?
For example, the government creates a "Example Coin" to use as secondary currency, they can open a big miner to mine this coin, the altcoin will increase the value, government can use that valorized coin to buy computers to schools and/or for people in general, the government can pay peoples to teach others. And after people start to use, it will maintain a good price. And tecnology can bring knowledge. And well, I think this can be done with smartphones too, nowadays have some real cheap(they can use to read news, ebooks, forums, everything).
The government can use the coin to invest in tecnology.
Or not.

I don't think so. These countries are poor for a reason. If you would look at them with caution, you will find out that these countries' governments have either not accepted US's rules or got some mass of oil or commodities. Anyways, I'm going off topic right now.

Bitcoin can't help poor countries, except if there was a donation or something where we could send our money to be spent for the poor. However, we've seen many of these 'donations' and no change at all so...

Yeap, major problem is the government(inside or outside)

Donations are there since a long time, I think poor countries need something related to education, I mencioned a "example" of a altcoin related to chess in other reply..

yes bitcoin can help poor countries. Just like what happened to me and my peers who are living in a third world country. Before many of us do not earn while at home and some just sit on the couch and watching television. But when bitcoin came into the picture within our homes we can earn thru online jobs and signature campaigns and from investments. By sitting on the couch and facing the computer we are earning bitcoins and convert it to cash.

Good to read that, maybe you can learn to use some softwares like Photoshop or something like that to earn more and have a job!

Bitcoin or any other altcoin cannot necessarily help poor countries. Not everyone in third world countries has an Internet access, and even if somebody has an Internet access, it doesn't assure that he is interested or is he knowledgeable about Bitcoin. I think the only people that can financially helped by Bitcoin are those that have a deep knowledge about it. The trading, gambling, and other stuffs that you can do with Bitcoin can only be obtained through experience and an intrinsic interest towards Bitcoin.

Yeap, the tecnology factor is a problem. Now... How can bitcoin/altcoin bring tecnology to poor countries?

Help a poor country means? To grow? I don't think so if it's only bitcoin. Honestly, even bitcoin will be accepted in a country, that country must not depend their economic growth on it. Of course every country has their own ways to be productive and grow, if ever, bitcoin will just be an addition to that. It can help those unemployed citizens individually if they will be giving such effort to learn about it and earn it.

To help with financial status, to bring knowledge to people, to bring more tecnology to this countries, I think a computer/internet can open ways, and people can use it as a second currency, maybe doing online jobs. You know, they receive a very small salary, with training they can earn in a month what they earn in a year. Of course it would be in long term.
Well, I don't have the magic formula to this.


Bitcoin itself cant help poor countries but it can help people to earn money with bitcoin. and if you are a hard working person, you can take it as a full time job and help you somehow to have a good life.

So how people from poor countries can work for bitcoin if internet connection is really horrible? Also how they will do such bitcoin earning method if they are lacked of devices?

And more importantly, how they can use their bitcoin if no exchanger that has a convertion services is not available since I think no exchanger will opened services for poor countries due to lack of accessibility.

Yeap, the internet connection must be a giant problem. I'm thinking about how the bitcoin or a altcoin can bring more tecnology to this countries, but I still don't know.



Thank you all for the replys
I dont think that the bitcoin will help the poor countrys because peopel who life in poor countrys can earn bitcoins becuase bitcoins are very
expensive so i dont think they can buy them.

What a foolish reply , just to troll the post for campaign dont write something foolishly, for helping poor country they dont have to buy bitcoins, Their are so many ways through which you can earn bitcoins so much that you can live life freely from all financial problems.

I have seen their are  so many users who are living their life freely by earning bitcoins through lot of way and now they are free from fiancial problem due to coming to bitcoin and earning nice income
1564  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: What Happens if I lose my Bitcoins? on: October 16, 2016, 10:49:06 PM
it was a nightmare. I never imagined I could lose bitcoin I have. get bitcoin requires struggle and sacrifice of time.
when I lost bitcoin then I will live and sleep all day.
Atleast you can't lose more then you have. Imagine if someone 'hacks/cracks" your credit card, you could make a much bigger loss.

What you are telling is wrong the same way if he cannot lose more then he have in wallet the same way he cannot lose if his credit card is also lost as you can only use till the limit what it is assigned.

In bitcoins if once lost you can do nothing , as you cannot track who is the thief or hacker.
1565  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to Better Advertise Gambling Site? on: October 16, 2016, 10:45:53 PM
If you want to promote your site through this forum then you can start signature campaign for 2 or 3 weeks and you will come know within 1 week the performance on your site, apart from this you can run any giveaways and some bounty on wager. So that they come and play in your site and earn while enjoying to play in your site
1566  Other / Off-topic / Re: Why are you investing in Bitcoin? on: October 16, 2016, 09:12:19 AM
The reason of the fact that is first- It is an innovative and effective way to send and receive money.
It is fast and secure .
Price is one of the variable factor in the case as sudden fall and rise will be a key to any transaction in long term.

I think when you become an investor would you see first is in terms of price, when prices are high maybe you'll see how this commodity has a high price, and then you find a new innovation of a currency and it deserves to be invested

That's right and you will invest only after doing a great level of research and if you are satisfied with the results then without any hesitation you will prefer to invest your money into it.

Correct, Investing in bitcoin is just like buying Gold, Gold give you 10 to 15% appreciation yearly but in bitcoin you can more then that, apart from that you can use bitcoin in lot of ways through online.
1567  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Adding bitcoin deposit to website on: October 16, 2016, 08:58:40 AM
Hello
I want to add bitcoin deposits to my site so i would like to know which wallet is best to use.
I found bitpay but business account takes 1% transaction fee, is there anything else i can use or do ?
Thanks for any help

You can go with Desktop wallet, just download the desktop wallet like electrum, which i am using and till now dont got any problem, after installing you will get bitcoin address to receive the bitcoins, Just pick one address and post it in your site. After that when ever anyone wanted to purchase goods from your site they will just deposit bitcoin in your wallet address and you can check it in your wallet and as soon as you have received the bitcoins you can proceed with your product delivery.

It is very simple you dont have to go for any other person to deal it with, it is just like bank , where you get account number and you post it in your site and they transfer the money. Only difference is the cost is very less to manage against Bank account managing.

Thanks for your advice but Im looking for bitcoin deposits same as some gamble websites

But why do you want to go like gambling sites as they are doing this for each customers as they have to be unique but if you are going for selling commodities to sell then i dont think that you will be needing that way.
1568  Economy / Economics / Re: The dream of getting rich with bitcoins on: October 16, 2016, 08:57:15 AM
I dedinitely lost quite an amount already but from the beginning i didn't have that much capital wheni started with bitcoin as well. I started just with signature campaigns and from there i played with trading. I think bitcoin has a potential of making someone rich, well i think it already made a lot of us richer. It just needs time and effort i think
Early adopters hodling thousands of coins have indeed managed to be rich, but these days are over for the normal person.

It's impossible to expect that you can get rich just because you hodl a few coins in your wallet.

In order to become rich, you need to have hundreds of coins already at this stage, where you either trade your way up, or keep hodling them for a long time to see the price go up.

It's one of these two options that people can go for as being somewhat of a decent choice with the least risk ratio.

I dont agree with your comment, still their is so many options open that if you do , then you can also become rich with bitcoins, like Signature Campaign, giving your skill work for bitcoins, participate in altcoin giveaways and do some trading. Like this if you do small work you can become rich in some months.
1569  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How Many Millions of People Use Bitcoin? on: October 16, 2016, 07:35:09 AM
About 15-30 million given how many people join us from SE Asia, I'd say we have easily passed the 10million mark, but not all people are active users.

According to the chart shown below, only around 400k unique Bitcoin addresses are being used daily. On the one hand, an individual may have multiple addresses corresponding to a single wallet, while on the other, Bitcoin exchanges, for example, might have fewer addresses than the total number of their clients. In any case, we can assume that the number of active Bitcoin users roughly equals this figure, i.e. about 400k users. Surely, a far cry from millions claimed...



The chart is taken from here

Yes, that might be the case, although you have to see that most bitcoin users might trade their coins p2p, so you have to add up all exchanges + localbitcoins and other trading places.

So i'd say roughly 3 million active, and about 15 million in total who were active or are active but less active.

Even if it were 15 million worldwide, which it can't be, that's still sad considering Pokémon Go has 24 million unique daily users and it's just a game. The market cap for Bitcoin is only $10 billion. That's sad considering Walt Disneys cap is $147 billion and Coca Cola is $179 billion.

Give it time, those companies are 50+ years old, or even 100 I think.

Bitcoin is only 7 years old, what do you expect? It takes time to grow.

Pokémon Go is six months old and is only in the USA and has 24 million registered users daily. Bitcoin is world wide, is seven years old, can be used for purchases all over the web and a local game is beating it in popularity. WTF?  

Pokemon go is a game lot of users want to play that game because pokemon go is a world wide hit since we are child and we are still watching it thats why and bitcoin is a digital currency that child or young people aint interested on it. But bitcoin users are getting high and high over the years.

I agree with your point with pokemon as a game so it got so many users in short span, but bitcoin is a digital currency which most of them are still thinking that this is not real currency. This is the main mentality of human that they accept games very soon but they dont accept any new technology soon as they are always afraid of new technology to use first.

Bitcoin was first mainly used for Illegal activities that is also the reason of people not using it.
1570  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] UR - Distributed Via A World-wide Airdrop, Based on Ethereum on: October 16, 2016, 07:21:32 AM
I think still their is no info about Airdrop and any other bounty, can you tell when will we get the full info on bounty as we want to support this project.
1571  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: BTC has too few coins to function as a global currency. on: October 10, 2016, 02:43:50 PM
And i have had many times where i wanted to send small amounts but couldn't afford it..
I don't want to suggest that but we have some services which allow us to send fee-less tranaction alredy - Xapo for example.

We are far from reaching point where bitcoin could be even remotely considered as substitute to FIAT, being global currency is like a dream for Bitcoin.

Plus, it is not like we are stuck forever with current bitcoin code, protocol can be upgraded when needed. The current fee system will be sufficient for many, many years.

I think above this quote , it is clearly given details about how the transaction fees is changing according to the price. and i also accept that if wanted to use small amounts of bitcoin to send then better to use online web wallets like xapo , coinbase which are sending the coins without fees, but keeping high amount of bitcoins on this exchange is not recommended.
1572  Economy / Services / Re: Komodo Signature and Avatar Campaign | Member - Legendary on: October 10, 2016, 02:23:16 PM

rules are easy to follow, if i'm not jsut tied to my current sig campaign, i would have joined. 25 posts is easy job for the participants, i can post that much in a day if i really wanted to.

anyway, i'm joining the twitter, newsletter and facebook campaign. hope to acquire some of these komodo later.


Sorry but we don't have any social media bounties/campaigns Sad

We have a "newsletter lottery" though, where some subscribers will win KMD after the ICO.

You mean then their is no social Media bounties Like twitter and facebook , so sad to know it as i have done it and was thinking that will earn some coins through them also.
1573  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] DECENT Announcement - Decentralizing Content Distribution on: October 10, 2016, 02:11:04 PM
Decent was paying for a signature campaign here on Bitcointalk, there may be other ways to earn some. It is a decent project, interesting Wink

And any spreadsheet list for Facebook + Twitter campaign?

I dont think that they have prepared any spreadsheet for Facebook & Twitter campaign, as they are just paying for Liking their profile by 1 share not like ICONOMI that you have to share and like and retweet , like this so many options and then at the end tell most of them as spammers and dont give bounty.

Decent have kept very simple bounty for the Facebook + Twitter campaign, If i am not wrong.
1574  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: how strong is bitcoin really? on: October 10, 2016, 02:08:17 PM
actually bitcoin is strong because of back up from this community and spread from mouth to mouth and this is why there are many people will attract and want to use bitcoin. beside back up from this community, bitcoin can do nothing without us but bitcoin will do the potential to reach more people.

I think the OP is not meaning strong in the sense of publicity, he is meaning of technically how strong is Bitcoin and as per my knowledge Bitcoin Technology is very strong that is why so many of them are using its technology and preparing other coins. Their are so many option which if you check then you itself will realize it
1575  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Prediction with Informacion analyses on: October 10, 2016, 02:06:13 PM
in my opinion Information analyses will not always help us to predict the particular match because sometimes those analyses will incorrect and you will lost your bets and for me to predict the match is simple just look at to their recent performance or their statistics results from both teams and my strategies is not so bad because sometimes i won my bets with high odds

What you are telling is right but i think if you add both and prepare report then you will be getting much more analyses of the match, Like you have to check the last performance of both teams and then their recent performance against other teams , if you combine both the surely you can predict the 99% accurate prediction of the match.
1576  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [TITA]TitaCoin-Invest In The Trading Technologies/BUYBACKS/[ICO] - Abondoned on: October 10, 2016, 02:01:56 PM
Hey did anyone of you got your payment for bounty, as i am seeing that Developer after posting the repayment in BTC have not come online after that.

My spanish translation bounty : Bitcoin Address: 1FLsVCrBUmbY9xnrq1apPQnZkUxrFUUCw6

Hope that you will send the bounty
1577  Economy / Gambling / Re: Bitdouble.io | Awesome social gambling game | Provably fair | 0.025 mBit faucet on: October 08, 2016, 04:38:41 PM
Very good site with good graphics,

Just now saw the thread and opened the account and really enjoyed the free game, will surely invest and play in future right now i am nil in my account so enjoying free coins. some time the site gets hanged but its ok.
1578  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: reg required V.S. no reg game on: October 08, 2016, 03:01:35 PM
i think both of these can be good and bad at the same time. you can't just make a decision based on a simple pros and cons (advantages and disadvantages) of this matter.

the difference can be in the type of the game, some games are played on chain and some are not. so the first one can be without registration.

also no registration means you have to deposit and withdraw each bet and that means you have to pay 2 transaction fees for each bet so it would be impossible to play games like dice for example.

it is correct what you said, it depends on what type of game we are playing if we are doing sports gambling then, like directbet.eu site it is good not to create account and just bet and transfer the bitcoins and as soon as the result is their you get withdraw your profit. But if you are playing like poker or dice or blackjack etc like this type games then you should be login and then play as if you get some problem in between their should not be problem with your balance in the account.
1579  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Prediction with Informacion analyses on: October 08, 2016, 02:29:52 PM
That is very good analysis about both teams strength and abilities what will be happen there, even Norway is not so impressive side that is the reason it has high odds for this encounter, Norway has still possibility to win this match because Azerbaijan is not strong even it will play on ground, that is why I am totally agreed with you.

That is why when both teams are equally strong then it is better to bet on over or under goals and i think this match it is better to go for under 2.5 goals and first half draw as both team will try fully to play defense game.
1580  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The danger of the cyptocurrencies on: October 08, 2016, 02:27:24 PM

What if bitcoin price rises to 1.000.000$ and gold and USD become literally worthless? That's when bitcoin will be the world currency, and people gonna realise that gold is just a stone, USD is just a toilet paper.


Overall your fears are warranted.

People should always remember what happens when things fall out of balance.

Why do you think Bitcoin is here in the first place?

As far as your claim about stones and toilet paper I half agree.

People will realize that the USD would make good toilet paper.

The day that they call gold "just a stone" however would be a sad day.

They might need to be reminded that following contain gold:

-Mother Boards
-Graphics cards
-Hard drives
-CPUs
-Servers
-Tablets
-Smart Phones

All of which are used to facilitate the mining, transaction verification, and campaign propagation of Bitcoin (via the internet) and all of its derivatives.

If gold is worthless then miners don't mine which means raw materials vanish into thin air.


What you told is 100% right gold and silver are not only used as ornaments but they are used in lot of products to be manufactured using this as raw materials so , i also believe that they wont go worthless.

But the fear of cryptocurrencies is also ok. that is why i dont keep fully investment in cryptocurrencies i convert them to fiat currency and invest in land as this investment cannot vanish.

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