Hopefully, you did not either disclose too much about your still existing BTC stash (if any) or provide them with an impression (or incentive) to attempt to knock you off, especially since they know where you live... 

Don't you have to disclose some more about your own situation and past practice including where you are living, first?  and Do you ONLY use coinbase currently?  How do you use it?  Do you buy through their regular (banking type)  app or through their exchange?

I don't know about your characterization here about either where we are at or what constitutes feelings in a bear market versus a bull market in terms of how long they might take to play out...   Something seems a bit off, here.

I will concede that while going through this whole process any of us would not really know with any degree of confidence when we are in a bear market or when we are in a bull market, so when we are in the middle of either of them, the disorientation remains unclear during a variety of times, yet, after several months, sometimes we can look back and retrospectively assess that at time x minus 4 months (or whatever) we were in y or z market.

So, let's compare the bear market of 2014-2015/16 to the seeming bear market of today.  In an attempt at a retrospect analysis, we could reasonably characterize the 2014 bear market to have started near the beginning of 2014 and to end at the end of 2015; however, we did not really know with any level of confidence that that particular bear market had ended until about May 2016 and perhaps even late 2016.. but in retrospect, I think that would be fair to proclaim, based on price movement that about October 2015 was the beginning of the end of that particular bear market, and thus we had entered into a bull market.

So, part of what I am suggesting here, is that the bull market of 2015 to 2017 did not just whimsically go up in a really quick time frame, as you suggested in your post, but instead took a bit more than 2 years to unravel with concededly a very steep rise at the very end (early October 2017 to mid-December 2017).  It would be unfair to characterize the 2017 bull market as only the last portion of 2017 or even the whole of 2017, but instead a process that unravelled over a bit more than 2 years.

Regarding what currently seems to be our bear market, so far, this current bear market is no where near the length of the 2014 bear market.  So far, we have only had about 14 months of bear market, compared with the 2014/15 bear market that lasted 2 years of down and flat with uncertainties about when or if another UP would be coming or sustained.  In other words, I postulate that it is not fair to suggest that HODLers here are suffering equally to 2014/15/16 when the current period of DOWN and uncertainty remains reasonably half of what had taken place in 2014/15/16.

Don't get me wrong.  I am not suggesting that we have to suffer more or anything like that, but your seeming characterization that we have already been through the worst seems a bit off to me because reasonably we could be in for a longer period of suffering and even an attempt (successful or not) by status quo financial institutions and governments (aka bearwhales) to attempt to make this particular suffering of BTC HODLers to be worse than the 2014/15/16 suffering. 

A million dollar question continues to be whether they are either capable or willing to continue to attempt to beat at bitcoin through price and FUD and even risk losing a lot of money in the process to continue to beat at bitcoin... Remember that a decent number of them have money printing machines in order to attempt such endeavors that may or may not end up being successful to throw at their beat up bitcoin goals and they can continue to spread FUD too and to try to shake more weak hands and attempt to figure out if there are any more weak hands to shake.. including the whether the seemingly frothy HODLers of shitcoins can be shaken and with a likely cascading effect upon bitcoin.

I don't know. 

Sometimes it can take a bit  of time to get out of a kind of range, and seems like we have been in the $3ks forever, even though it has only been a bit more than 3 months... and then several attempts to move into the $4ks and earlier above $4,200 that were not successful.

In the past couple of weeks, we have witnessed some laddering upsteps in the BTC price, which should make us feel good, but it also makes us feel anxious to experience some more, which may or may not happen.  Recently, I am thinking that even a shoot up to the mid $4ks is not really going to bring us too far from having future bottom challenges, just like in mid-2015 going from the lower $200s to the lower $300s did not prevent us from returning to the lower $200s before the bears truly did become exhausted and could no longer keep the BTC price down. 

It does seem kind of ironic how, so far, this BTC price pattern is playing out so similar to the 2014/15 pattern, and personally I keep hoping that the pattern will deviate - of course, to the upside, but these kind of matters cannot really be rushed.. and I also keep seeing what seems to be ongoing froth in the shitcoin space that is failing and refusing to purge... which personally, causes me a bit more skepticism regarding the ongoing shitcoin froth drag on the BTC price.

You seem to be reading too much into this sub $4k stagnation.

In the past 24 hours, BTC price has been largely moving within a range of about  $3,865 and $3,940.  Perhaps there will be a breaking out of the range.. perhaps the range will narrow.. but we are still within the range.. and perhaps smack dab in the middle of it as I type.

I already edited because I realized that in my first edition, I had failed to answer the second question.  Now the above post has been fixed.  Everything answered with precision.  You are welcome.

Yes.   I will specifically assert that currently there is a chance that the BTC price will pump above $4k in the coming days.  



As I type, the BTC price is bouncing between $3,910 and $3,920.  

If the price is going to $4k, then it must pass through $3,950 first.

If the price is going to $3,850, then it must pass through $3,870 first.

I predict that the price is going to pass through either $3,870 or $3,950 in the coming days, and I predict that the BTC price is never going to "land" in any one place for very long.  


Since bitserve answered more quickly, I will say:  "Ditto" to you, bitserve.

Hopefully, we do not have astroturfing going on here.   

He has not logged in for more than 2 weeks, so you might be on to something, roach.

Part of team mic.... 

I feel like this regarding your "edit"

Less than 1% world-wide adoption, currently, correct?  There might be pockets in the world (certain cities, perhaps?) that might, if lucky approach 10% adoption, and 10% would surely be high ... I would like to know of an actual city with 10% level of adoption.

Another question also involves how much of a percentage of wealth is invested into bitcoin by a supposed adopter, even from those who consider themselves as sufficient level of adopters.  

Going to be rare that any of us could find folks in any community higher than 1% of any population (except at a bitcoin conference) that has anything over 10% of their wealth in bitcoin, but any poll would likely consider any kind of usage of bitcoin as counting as a BTC adopter.

WO thread participants are anomalies in terms of their bitcoin holdings, for sure.

Would you trust putting $100 on it?  Or an amount similar to what you would carry in your regular (analog) wallet?

Your apology helps me feel less guilty about my emotional impulse to merit that post within seconds of reading it.  Thanks for acknowledging your mistake.

Your ongoing assertion of irrelevant troll/shill bcash pumping and bitcoin bashing topics does seem to more firmly establish your cunt status.. and it is not a good cunt it is a bad cunt.   

Water under the bridge, jbreher.

Those changes happened nearly a year and a half ago through overwhelming consensus.

If you want to attempt to undo those changes, then you are likely going to need to muster up a similar level of support against such changes that took them to pass, which is NOT going to happen.

So go off to your happy shitcoins such as bcash sv and bcash abc and play around with your stupid-ass omnibus non-change sets there.

Part of the point, remains, who gives a ratt's ass about what position bcash and various shitcoins are on the coinmarketcap list?  It is not too relevant to this thread unless there is some kind of an attempt to connect it with bitcoin.  Of course, bcash shills and trolls would like to make those kinds of relevancy claims just because there was a fork.. but that is NOT enough.... we have had nearly a year and a half of separation from that bcash forkening, and it has proven to be a altcoin attack vector against bitcoin at best that includes a bunch of misleading bullshit that does not need to be discussed here (especially not praised and pumped), especially when there are more important ongoing happenings in bitcoin... including that those bcash forks, like I already asserted many times are ongoing bitcoin attack vectors.

In other words, you and your boys are attempting to plan another coordinated spam attack on the bitcoin blockchain at the right time.   That is if they have any money left in their coffers to attempt to sustain such a hopefully effective attack..      Good luck with that   (NOT).   

Personally, I don't see any need for any leverage, and moreso with going BTC long, and part of the reason is the additional complications in attempting to calculate and to prepare yourself for either price direction. 

There seem to be some traders who are able to balance that practice in a way that is both prudent and profitable, but those with margin trading skills and finess seem to be the exception rather than the rule.

Yeah, defend jbreher and his bcash shilling, you fuck twat.