Apologies for the formatting, but did you know that before today none of the Joshua Zipkin's AMT Miner's negative trust was indexed on any of the search engines? In fact, that's indicative off ALL negative trusts given to anybody on this forum, including Josh Zerlan's Inaba (not linked here, for this is an AMT thread, but wanted to give a prime example to drive the point home).
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=152891
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User Date Risked BTC amount Reference Comments
MrTeal 11: -0 / +8(
2014-08-19 0.00000000 Reference Refuses to fulfill legitimate auction wins.
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User Date Risked BTC amount Reference Comments
clenell 0: -0 / +0(0) 2014-10-08 17.00000000 ordered miner from AMT and they never delivered. they will not issue mea refund or even talk.
Waiting since 1/4/14 0: -0 / +0(0) 2014-09-17 0.00000000 I ordered two 1.2 th miners in January 2014, I have not received them. AMT is selling new miners to others without fulfilling the agreement with me! This agreement was made 8 months AGO!!!!!!!!
I gave them $12,000.00 and they do not return my calls or emails!!!!
This has been the worst experience I have ever delt with!!
AMT took my money!!!!!!!!!
athgaurd 0: -0 / +0(0) 2014-09-15 8.00000000 Waiting for almost a year for them to deliver miner
athgaurd 0: -0 / +0(0) 2014-09-15 8.00000000 Waiting for almost a year for them to deliver miner
bobsag3 5: -1 / +5(5) 2014-09-08 0.00000000 Lying in leaked skype Chats about Black Arrow and technobit dealings.
opieum2 0: -0 / +0(0) 2014-09-06 0.00000000 In retaliation for ANY bad information posted my personal details on the forum and FALSELEY claimed I did classified work for the government painting a VERY big target on mine and my familes back. AND on top of it encouraged people to visit me if they "have a problem with him"
asprin 0: -0 / +0(0) 2014-08-28 0.00000000 Reference Paid $6,000 for miner, shipped 8 months after order when the miner now costs $1,500 and REFUSED a refund.
opieum2 0: -0 / +0(0) 2014-08-25 0.00000000 Reference Months to fulfill order placed in February. And as a result devaluation of order resulted in getting hardware that was outdated by delivery time (late August).
In addition documented leaked chats that directly contradict public statments made by AMT. No intention of fulfilling the MPP with statements by Josh Zipkin such as "Fuck the MPP"
Constant lies and deceptions with constant excuses with no validation of such. Stay away from AMT. And anything associated with Joshua Zipkin.
avaughan4 0: -0 / +0(0) 2014-08-25 28.00000000 Reference Has not fulfilled order since 11/6/2013 and refuses to answer questions on public forum or email. DO NOT BUY FROM AMT! THEY OFFER NO SUPPORT AND YOU WILL RECEIVE AN INFERIOR PRODUCT WHEN THEY DELIVER A YEAR LATER!
sirminesalot 0: -0 / +0(0) 2014-08-21 6.00000000 Reference Unfullfiled order worth $6000 - now miners are being sent out, but they are work 1/5th of the original price.
AMT has no plans to fulfill MPP promised at time of purchase.
Scam Company - Wild cash grab from the start.
AMT_minerLESS 0: -0 / +0(0) 2014-08-20 0.00000000 Reference AMT/Josh Zipkin Has lied to customers many times.
Look to various posts on the matter. Older unmoderated thread contains alot of the original infos on missed shipping, damaged hardware and lies told. AMT User thread is user managed, current info can be checked there. Use EXTREME CAUTION!
rik_khaos 0: -0 / +0(0) 2014-08-20 6.79127358 AMT originally promised an American build, moved operations over to china.
AMT_miners has constantly and knowingly lied about dates that miners would be shipped with the intent to deceive the purchaser. This includes the dates prominently advertised on the homepage of the AMT website
www.advanceminers.com AMT has refused to supply tracking numbers to clients.
I was once sent a "kit" at one point that had hashing boards that failed to initialize, and chips that burned out due to poor thermal design.
They have repeatedly refused to give refunds that they are legally obligated to process under the FTC regulation.
I as well as others have made formal complaints to the FTC and other consumer protection agencies.
AMT has ignored the laws of the country in which it was founded in and maintains its headquarters in.
Upon receiving my miner on 8/19/2014 I discovered my unit shipped without the Power Supply Unit that was included in the product description and purchase price.
When I unboxed my miner I was greeted with rusty scrap metal with sharp edges that could have injured me had I opened the box another way.
My hardware has depreciated by an amount greater than $4100 dollars between time of order until the time of my receipt, not including missing parts, which effectively bring its value down to zero dollars as the missing power supply is required to use the unit.
AMT advertises a Miner Protection Program on their website located at
https://advancedminers.com/miner-protection-plan/ . This program guarantees in no uncertain terms that, “If the networks increases to a point where your investment in our technology is no longer profitable, AMT will upgrade your Miner to the next level Miner absolutely free.”; “When the buyer’s miner is ready to be shipped, we will give that buyer the option of shipping the original miner which they purchased, or to upgrade to the next AMT miner which will allow them to meet ROI and more.”; “We will contact each buyer either by telephone or email with this option at the time of shipment.”; and “If the network increases so much that the next level miner also can’t meet ROI, the product upgrade will continue to the next AMT product which is profitable. Therefore, no matter what happens, our clientele will be left a ROI either way.”
To this date AMT denies to detail plans for compensation under the Miner Protection Plan. AMT often outright deletes posts when asked directly about the plan, or instructs the poster to contact their sales e-mail,
sales@AdvancedMiners.com. When the poster contacts the provided e-mail for further communication AMT does not return a response.
The risked BTC is a conversion from fiat (USD) using highest price of bitcoin for the date of purchase.
Chazaki 0: -0 / +0(0) 2014-08-20 13.00000000 Stole $13k from me as well as hundreds of thousands from others. No refunds. Trade with EXTREME caution
Dans 0: -0 / +0(0) 2014-08-19 85.00000000 Reference Pre-ordered miners back in February with a guarantee that hardware was working in the lab and would ship within a few weeks. Re-confirmed this several times before paying. Once i paid they went silent and now refuse to give a refund.
Bicknellski 0: -0 / +1(1) 2014-08-16 0.00000000 Reference Thumbs down. Do not buy from this company.
ar9 0: -0 / +0(0) 2014-08-14 0.00000000 Scam company, steer clear if you don't like giving your money away.
iglasses 0: -0 / +1(1) 2014-08-13 0.00000000 Tries to run another scam in the marketplace and eventually deletes all replies and closes thread.
This is nothing but a scam
braindead 0: -0 / +0(0) 2014-08-13 4.00000000 Reference False auction, didn´t accept escrow services, changes delivery charges etc etc
Waste of time
crashoveride54902 7: -0 / +4(4) 2014-08-09 0.00000000 Reference Scam Company is scamming, you have been warned...offer paypal, take away paypal and wants btc up front...fail at auctions...just generally bad all around...PM me if you think this is unfair
klondike_bar 1: -0 / +1(1) 2014-08-09 3.94000000 Reference first they insulted my escrow provider, who has a fantastic reputation
then the shipping costs tripled
then they offered to host my equipment (ie: no escrow)
as far as im concerned this is a total scam. I gave AMT the benefit of the doubt and they shat all over everything.
captin crunch 0: -0 / +0(0) 2014-08-06 32.00000000 I gave AMT nearly $18,000 in November 2013 for 3 miners to be delivered late December '13 to early January '14. I have been told repeatedly over the last 6 months that the equipment would ship by the end of the week.
July 14 AMT claimed to have shipped the 1st half of their backlog which I am clearly in. (currently valued at $4500)
They claimed the delivery process took 3 to 4 days but would not issue tracking numbers to its ustomers. 20 days later, still no mining equipment.
This is absolutely, hands down, the worst company I have ever dealt with in my entire life. The people who run the company are pathological liars and the proof is in their thread.
If you value your money and time I seriously recommend looking for another company to do business with.
subseaguru 0: -0 / +0(0) 2014-08-05 0.00000000 Reference AMT_miners advertised they are selling items and using paypal as payment along with BTC and escrow, they decided to change the payments and not tell anyone. this is the 3rd time that AMT has done this. they claim they accept a payment type then change their minds when it suits them.
x8008 -4: -1 / +0(0) 2014-08-03 2.00000000 Scam company
clenell 0: -0 / +0(0) 2014-04-03 11.90000000 I purchased a bitcoin miner from this man on Nov. 11, 2013. I have received nothing as of 4/3/14. He will not issue me a refund and he will not return emails or phone calls. I am order #610 - a 1.2TH machine. I can send you an invoice and bank transfer if it's proof you need.
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