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15781  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Best way to earn Bitcoins? on: June 04, 2015, 06:10:13 AM
Is there some way to earn Bitcoins quickly?

Mining seems to be too far ahead of me, and faucets give out very little.

Any suggestions?

Thanks


mining is far away for most of us here. Faucets were never the answer. Best way you could go are the sig campaigns here. Join one and as you're earning you're also earning your rank here. Good luck
Yeah but theres only a few person who can mine and own a mining software. Yeah its good to participate in signature campaign you will earn a lot in this method and it your rate is depend on your rank.

That true too
but until when you will earn from signature campaign
you must use BTC from Signature campaign to build your skill and prediction ( If you want to be trader)
and you must start think about future and build small business like faucet web
But its better to invest or make business that make your money grow or can earn a profit. And if you are contented to your money you can now do what you want to your money.

Don't invest in ponzi i lose more in cointellect, hashprofit maybe 2BTC and at my friend lose 3BTC in hashie.io
My big lose in zenminer
now iam trader in bittrex and c-cex
im not want to invest at all cloudmining ponzi etc.

What your hoby ,,? Writer ,,? Bloging,,?
If you like blog you can start to creat blog and build it
u can try coinurl or bitmedia to earn bitcoin from blog
Yeah thats right you can only offer your services. And you can earn through you know about computer or you are computer literacy.

yeah i create blog in "indonesia langauge" about bitcoin i get some satosi/day
no problem if i get only 1000satosi/day but i can push visitor more and more with share on my friend

also you can try youtoube adsense
I also get some satoshi per day from my blogs and became publisher in bitmedia.io
Good idea but i think 1000 satoshi a day is not enough, because its too small and you are only depend on visitors.

Not easy to get 10ksatosi/day
but if you active and keep your quality
You will get 10ksatosi/day maybe 100ksatosi/day Smiley
Keep spirit and keep fight

if you can't reach that amount with your blog, than it is better to go with a standard 1k payout per hour faucet, you need to click only once per hour and in ten hours you have your 10k, not so stressful as it may seems at a first glance
15782  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Is mining worth trying ? on: June 04, 2015, 06:06:47 AM
i always recommend bitfinex and cloudthink.io as the first option for any kind of bitcoin investing

they don't actually sell bitcoin mining, bitfinex is based on trading but cloudthink gives you some very simple options to earn daily bitcoins but with a decent return

is cloudthink a cloudmining company?

Don't go for them because most of them are ponzies and because there is no fun in mining without your own hardware

there is also no fun in consuming electrcity when with cloud you can avoid that completely, not to mention the dust and everythign related to the maintanace, i don't find that fun to be honest

the only fun part is when you see your earning rising

and anyway some of them are legit, their problem is the same as mining in general, reaching roi is too hard, nothing else
15783  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: KnC new toys on: June 04, 2015, 06:02:13 AM
Who knows what will happen if they really have made it to scam this becoming more like another BFL case making BS promises that cant be kept and shit happens. If it does happen at least it will push other companies to get up to speed with what they have and push the miners to a new level.

arent' they only producing HW for themselves now? i read it from another user, if this is the case, there is no problem of unsolved pre-order or scamming in general from them

we already know that they first wait for roi and then sell, or that they sell when there is no big profit to be made anymore
15784  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Hardware whats going on? on: June 04, 2015, 05:58:39 AM
i only know that knc are investing in 16nm chip and that a new line up of miners is coming for them, but as it was said they don't sell anymore, so it's a bit of pointless news
15785  Economy / Speculation / Re: Rally!!!!! on: June 03, 2015, 07:55:06 PM
And now imagine these kind of news at the end of 2013. We would have touched 4k.

i would go ahead and say probably 4k without the fake pump, all natural growth, so with the help of willy bot and chinese a even higher number
15786  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: How to get free bitcoin? on: June 03, 2015, 07:39:15 PM
Faucets can be interesting if you don't have something better to do.

If you prefer to play, there are some game-faucets like farmsatoshi or bitcoin2048. They doesn't pay too much, but at least they are fun.

wasn't bitcoin2048 a scam or at least a trollish game, in the sense that they will no pay you in the end? because it was fairly easy to reach a big amount there, many achieved  8192 numerous times
15787  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Newbie's point of view / Suggestions needed on: June 03, 2015, 07:35:42 PM
I would advise staying away from faucets as they're a waste of time. You'd be better using that time trying to earn regular money then buying bitcoins with it. I'd also avoid cloud mining as well. You can make a little from it but it takes time and many sites are scams. You sound like you got there in the end with bitcoin so well done.

Bitcoin death is something common media predict since the first boom when btc reached $1 or even before maybe... The large community/user base wouldn't allow this by that time and now 100x bigger it still won't... If it is as you say, faucets will be no help for you, signature campaings may give you something more valuable to see how things work, but to get real in this you should either buy btc with fiat (maybe a miner if you have cheap eletricity) and if you ever consider investing on clound mining be sure that there is always some risk they may run away with everything (ponzi), this post may give you a clue "https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=878387.0". There are much safer ones like hashnest (from biggest asic miners provider) that are very not likely to disapear with your money..


I have already ruled out faucets as wasted of time and possibly waste on investment too. I cant judge any of course but i am sure its not my thinking of investment/earn profit.
Signature campaigns is not my style and even not my account and experience permits it.
Also i could buy some THS on a cloud mining site but not sure which one since many opinions are different with many accusations from members.
Till now i havent found a mining service thats widely accepted as legit and not scam or ponzi, that i can make ROI, except hashnest.
Already opened an account there to buy some ths but not sure yet cause i need to do more digging.

I am more into exchanging btc for fiat or other altcoins but i have the same problem.
There are many exchanges and trying to find the best for me about prices, volume, fees ans deposit/withdrawal time.
Also want to find out if i can buy btc on X exchange and sell higher on another one, moving my coins or fiat with safety.

try to look at bit-x also, they are legit assured, good maintanance fee and free trading fee until september, you can also resell your contract there, pretty good if something went wrong and you need to get back your money

arbitrage is not so remunerative this day, and not certainly with bitcoin, but usually btc-e is around a higher price than bitstamp or bitfinex, you can check those for arbitrage, but still better to do it with bot, for earning the max from it
15788  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Bitcoin Miner on: June 03, 2015, 07:26:26 PM
with 200 is better to look at some antminer s3, they are resistant miners, they should perform good, not very efficient but who care if you don't pay your bill, but they can only mine sha256 coin(basically only bitcoin now, the rest are buried)

if you want to mine something else better to go to the altcoin section
15789  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Venture Capital is going to pump the living shit out of Bitcoin. on: June 03, 2015, 07:19:58 PM
we all know that, the real question is when all that will happen, so we can start to buy in bulk before it happen, without the worry that we are still scratching the bottom

i hope that by then bitcoin will not drop too much, or the recover will be tough even with the right massive investments
15790  Economy / Speculation / Re: Block Halving in 2016 - Boon or Bane for BTC price ?? on: June 03, 2015, 07:09:58 PM
It might not have any effect, the price might stay at $224 from now until way past the halving.

The price might become more stable than most fiat currencies, which would make Bitcoin the most boring currency in the world.

the real boom will arrive long before the halving, it could arrive for example around march 1 2016, when the XT client with its new TX limit will be launched

that could be a good launch pad, for skyrocketing with the halving

it is very unlikely that the price will remain as it is right now until the halving
15791  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: how much can you make weekly? on: June 03, 2015, 07:00:31 PM
I think with most things the amount you can earn depends on how much you put in. There's certainly money to be made but it's never easy. You could make a lot of money from this forum if you've got the time and are willing to work hard.

sometimes it is very easy, if you got lucky, like early adopters of bitcoin or if you has found something like cointellect( a ponzi that can be scammed)

Where can you trade forex with bitcoin? How difficult is it to do?

i think he is talking about plus 500, but that's not realt stock, but CFD
15792  Economy / Economics / Re: What to buy.. what to buy.. on: June 03, 2015, 06:58:30 PM
Gold & Bitcoin would be my no.1 choice if I was buying, also Land, where I am the cost of land gets almost doubled in an year or 2. But it really depends on what budget you have.

Land.. now that is a pretty good plan..  Lots of insanely cheap land in parts of my country.. HUM..

I might just do this. I like this plan.

also land are always worth something, even in a very distante future, they hold quite well their value, and if one day you can't sell it, you can still find another use for them, for you needs(like a small farm, or a vegetable garden)
15793  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin's Use in Indonesia Pick up on: June 03, 2015, 06:19:45 PM
it's nice to see that more countries are adopting bitcoin instead of banning it, without any real reason(criminal reason are stupid because they can use local fiat fot that too)

if this trend continue it will be only a matter of time until the the right propagation will happaen
15794  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Asking smart questions to cloud mining company on: June 03, 2015, 03:25:04 PM
the only good cloud that i know are these two, bit-x and hashnest

then you have a bunch of renting sites, that are reliable like nicehash and miningrigrental, they are not exactly cloud, but you may find there some miner that has a good price ratio
15795  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Mechanisms ro prevent crime on: June 03, 2015, 02:15:48 PM
trade with only trusted members

use always escrow

use common sense

don't trade with guy that want to use paypal/skrill/other paypal clone

try to divide your amount in small fractions when dealing with someone, in the worst case you will lose a tiny portion

don't download shitty stuff from random newbie user


i think there are more....

If you are using escrow, you wouldnt need to trade only with ''trusted'' members, just because someone has green trust doesnt mean he cant scam you, there has been cases so dont be so sure just because you are trading with a trusted member.

yeah i know about this, there are hackers that has hacked some high trusted account just to scam other users, especially with the recent forum downtime, all those point that i've listed are mutually exclusive
15796  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Cloud Mining - Please help a newbie on: June 03, 2015, 11:03:08 AM
Cloud mining will easily leave you without pants.

yeah There has been a prolioferation of cloud mining scams recently
Unless you know what you are doing, I would not get into it

they are not all scam, you can start to invest a small amount if you can't trust them, and increase that amount by little for every next investments

this is what i'm doing with some site that ask you to invest, not exactly cloud, but they work in the same way
15797  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Are you using less Bitcoin than you did last year? on: June 03, 2015, 10:04:06 AM
i'm using it more because i have more coins now than before, but the current price is telling me to not use it

and anyway this topic begs to differ https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1078996.msg11521831#msg11521831

we can't just condemn bitcoin relying on a single chart

the chart you posted just say that there is less trading, which is true you can tell it by how the price stays in that range since ages
15798  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Will/Did you mention Bitcoin in your first date? on: June 03, 2015, 09:54:27 AM
i could mention it if we were talking about technology in general or if we are going to pay pure something, basically any related stuff to bitcoin; in that case it would be a good opportunity to shift the argument to bitcoin

otherwise it is better to avoid it i guess
15799  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Block Increase Controversy - A Way Forward? on: June 03, 2015, 09:52:05 AM
What is more important to us:

Decentralization

or

Scalability
?

Increasing the maxblocksize to 20MB is just increasing throughput,  that won't make Bitcoin more scalable in any way.

So rather say : decentralization or throughput.



do you know what scalability is? of course it will increase the scalability, because there will be the possibility to move transactions, in a more wider range

you are not stuck with 05-0.9 MB range as it is right now

15800  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Record 152,800 Bitcoin transactions on May 28 following constant growth all year on: June 03, 2015, 08:18:57 AM
so we are at almost 2 tx per second(1.7 average) with this new record, it is indeed the time to move on with the tx limit, because the next spike could reach 200k easily

the chart also show perfectly, why one should not look only at the price, others indicators like this are constantly ignored, they are more tied with what will be the future of bitcoin, than anything else


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