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1581  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Good ways to invest Bitcoins on: June 27, 2015, 03:00:19 PM
the mining time has already gone.... mining solo the same way is hard to ROI the equipment cost and pay the energy bill as mentioned try exchanges better results and easy to play with it

Yeah for bitcoin atm (at this price), but you can mine new altcoins.
A few go really high with the price, but you must have some luck to choose the right coin.  Smiley
1582  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How to withdraw money won from bitcoins to banks without suspicion on: June 27, 2015, 02:54:52 PM
Buy amazon gift cards here with bitcoins (you get it normally 10% cheaper), sell the giftcards for example on ebay or another forum
(sell it with paypal) make a new bank account on a different bank and transfer your paypal money there.

There are some ways to transfer your btc to your bankaccount.
1583  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: What is The fastest way to sell an AMAZON GIFT CARD ,? on: June 27, 2015, 02:49:11 PM
The fastest way is it to sell here on the forum.

Make a thread in the subfolder digital goods in the market place.
I also sell a lot of amazon gift cards really fast in the german section here in the market place.
1584  Economy / Gambling / Play for free and win BTC? on: June 26, 2015, 07:49:11 PM
Hello,

is here a site where you can play for free and win some btc?
It would be nice if you can help me, so i dont must to read all the 200 threads.  Smiley
1585  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / What is the best new altcoin in the last 3 month? on: June 26, 2015, 07:19:36 PM
Hello, i search for a new altcoin that its worth to buy.
There are too many coins every day, so i dont want to read all threads.

What was the best altcoin development in the last 3 month?
Is there such a coin out there?
1586  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: If you have 1 BTC, how will you make it to 1.1 BTC in the best way? 10$ Prize on: June 26, 2015, 07:09:34 PM
You are a full member, so simple sign a signature campaign.

After 1 month you will get more than 0.1 BTC when you write for example over 100 posts.
So you dont even must invest and risk your 1 BTC.  Wink
1587  Local / Trading und Spekulation / Re: Wann wird der Bitcoin 1 Mio wert sein ? on: June 26, 2015, 07:03:28 PM
Guten Tag,

mich würde interessieren wann eurer Meinung nach der Bitcoin 1 Million Euro wert sein wird.


Gruss
Das wäre eine Marktkapitalisierung von 21.000.000.000.000 €. 21 Bio € ist ne Hausnummer die nur durch Hyperinflation erreicht werden kann. Aber das st ja nicht unmöglich.

Wenn es noch alle Bitcoins gäbe, dann ja.
Aber alleine nur bis heute sind schon 30% aller Bitcoins (über 4 Millionen) verloren (vernichtet, verbrannt, keys verloren etc.).
In wirklichkeit gibt es viel weniger bitcoins.
Es gibt (zurückhaltende) Prognose, dass der Bitcoinpreis in 5 Jahren bei ca. 50.000 Dollar liegen wird.

Wenn alleine Amazon Bitcoin zum Standard-Zahlungsmittel machen würde, könnte der Wert eines Bitcoins sogar jetzt schon in realtiv kurzer Zeit auf über 10.000 Dollar steigen.
1588  Economy / Economics / Re: Best way to turn 2BTC into 4BTC on: June 26, 2015, 06:43:14 PM
The fastest way is to go on the altcoinmarket and buy cheap altcoins and sell high.
But it is a risky game, at the end you will be greedy and you will lose a lot, when only 2-3 of your altcoins will dont go up only down.

I knew it, i make a lot bitcoins with altcoins, but at the end all altcoins i choose go down, and i lost over 40 Bitcoins.

Better safe the 2 bitcoins and make some jobs here to earn more bitcoins, every method to double your bitcoins is gambling.
There is NO other way where you can get 100% more bitcoins without risk.
1589  Economy / Economics / Re: If Greece defaults on: June 26, 2015, 06:39:10 PM
It would be nice imagination.
When only 1% from the greece population of 11 million would start to using bitcoin, then bitcoin would be unstoppable.
The volume would be explode with over 100.000 more users.
1590  Economy / Economics / Re: I need bitcoin to be $690 to break even.....will I make it? on: June 26, 2015, 06:35:57 PM

5 years would be ideal... after that I might give up



If you're still valuing your bitcoins based on an exchange rate, you're doing it wrong.

How else would I measure its purchasing power? If I don't value it by its purchasing power how else should it be valued??

Are you serious? In 5 years the price will jump over 100 times higher then now.
But i knew it that you will sell your bitcoins at around 2000 Dollar and then repent it when it will be over 50.000 Dollar,
when you ask such questions like will be bitcoin break 690 Dollar.
1591  Economy / Speculation / Re: How many bitcoins do I need to retire in 20 years? on: June 26, 2015, 06:34:04 PM
It difficult to say.
Realistic forecasts say, that the bitcoin price will be at 50.000 Dollar in 5 years.
But what will happen in 20 years nobody knew it, maybe the price will be at 1 million dollar? or still at 50.000 dollar.

To be on the safe side i would buy or earn minimum 10 bitcoin, this is in my opinion and good amount to go in retire in 5-20 years.
But like always, more is better, so when you can get 100 bitcoins, than you will not only go in retire, you maybe can also buy a nice boat or plane.  Smiley
1592  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: OpenBazaar founder: We aren't the next Silk Road on: June 26, 2015, 06:09:32 PM
That will be the big question, how they can delete illegal stuff fast.
But i bet they will find a solution, ebay can handle it also.

OpenBazaar have big sponsors, they will employ a lot of new workers that will patrol and search for illegal stuff and delete it.
1593  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Why bitcoin is going nowhere (too hard to buy bitcoin) on: June 26, 2015, 06:05:41 PM
Here in germany are a lot of sites that sell bitcoins, so here it is also very easy to buy it.
I only go too google and type "buy bitcoins" and the first page i see is full of bitcoin shops and instructions how i buy bitcoins.

I think in australia are also a few shops where you can buy bitcoins very fast and uncomplicated.
And when not, then buy it on a non australian side.
1594  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Is it illegal for me to sell my Bitcoins? on: June 26, 2015, 05:58:15 PM
Yes it is legal. In europe it should be no problem for you to sell your bitcoins, maybe in china you should be a little bit careful.

When the amount here in germany is under 10.000 Euro they even check it where the money comes from.
But when you sell a lot more, than you should declare it.

When you dont do it, you can be charged for tax evasion.
1595  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What projects are you most excited about? on: June 26, 2015, 05:54:03 PM
For me openbazaar, the decentralized "ebay" can give bitcoin a nice boost.
But i think the condition that it will be popular is only that every illegal things are forbidden to sell.
Or it will end like Silk Road.
But i have a good feeling, they get also 1 Million dollar more last week, so that they will hire now more people.
1596  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: anyone read this article: The scam called Bitcoin? on: June 26, 2015, 05:43:25 PM
At first they say that everything is bad and a scam.

First light = bad, first car = bad, internet = bad

in 5 years Matt O'Brien will change his opinion, and he will cry later, to not jump on this revolution.
1597  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: First Bitcoin ATM (BTM) comes to Greece amidst the recession! on: June 26, 2015, 05:40:37 PM
News nice, so the greece people can change their euros into bitcoins.
Its a win win situation for the people there and for bitcoin promotion.

It would be nice when everything in greece would now go trought bitcoin (dreaming  Smiley), it will give bitcoin a big boost.

We need this atms all over greece.
1598  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Bitcoin or Litecoin -> next year on: June 23, 2015, 08:07:57 PM
What do you think, which coin will make a bigger jump in the price?
Litecoin or Bitcoin.

Of course bitcoin will be forever the number 1, because it was the first decentralized cryptocurrency.
But when for example bitocoin rise to 1000 Dollar = the price will jump 4 times.

The litecoin price is now 3 dollar, this mean it would jump 4 times = 12 dollar.
Because the litecoin price rise automatiquement when the bitcoin price rise.

But when the last time bitcoin jump this high the litecoin price was at 50 dollar, this mean the price was 16 times higher than the bitcoin price.

Do you would better invest in bitcoin or litecoin (only in the next 12 month)?
1599  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: should i move my ''saving'' to Bitcoin? on: June 23, 2015, 07:50:34 PM
No dont invest your savings in a thing where you can lose money.

Go for example to a signature campaign, or look what you can do to earn some bitcoins.
But what happen when you need your savings quickly? Than you sell your bitcoins and when the price go to 200 Dollar in the next month, than you lost money.

Only invest so much that i you can lose without problem.

You say you will hold it for at least 5 years, but when you invest all your invests you will look everyday at the price, and when it go down you will sell your bitcoins, because you will fear to lose money.
1600  Other / Off-topic / Re: How many Bitcoins are lost forever? on: June 23, 2015, 07:43:42 PM
I read a few month ago a article, that NVIDIA engineer John Ratcliff calculated that the total amount of coins that lay over 1.5 years is around 4.200.000 Bitcoins (30% of all bitcoins today).

I think that of this 4.2 million bitcoins, 3.5 million are lost.

And i bet when the price will go around 250 dollar for a while, a lot of more people will lost their private keys.
But i think its good for bitcoin, the value will be higher with so a big amount of lost bitcoins.
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