There is something that I really can't understand and I want to get your thoughts about it.
It looks like for some reasons , the bitcoin community don't care about decentralization at all. I mean , If we check the forums we will see how they say they want to use decentralized websites to exchanges etc... but the truth is that no one does.
OpenBazaar which is supposed to be a decentralized marketplace is almost used by no one compared to the bitcoin userbase and this is valid for Bitsquare.io as well.
In the meanwhile , we see a lot of people providing their real infos to the exchanges just like that.. So what's wrong here?
You're right, there are far more people using Bitcoin as just another method of making fiat (look at the signature campaigns that end up in this thread). There's more than that though. Reading the posts on this forum makes me believe many people don't truly understand what decentralization is and isn't relating to Bitcoin. The decentralized outside services like OpenBazaar and Bitsquare.io are just that "outside services". They really have nothing to do with the decentralization of Bitcoin but are nice services for the community to have available. I think most people don't use them because people are basically lazy and refuse to go through any additional steps to use them. Providing your financial info (something people are already used to doing) allows a level of automation that feeds the lazy nature of humans. |
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I am always wondering this question. Of course from the computer science point of view, nothing is really random. You have a random function which may use system timestamp as a seed, or combination of mac address, computer architecture etc. So if I try to generate the bitcoin address using the similar conditions that Satoshi once had, maybe I can generate his address with a larger probability and may succeed one day, and get his lost treasure, lol. Though sounds not easy, but it is still possible, right?
You will never successfully generate Satoshi's addresses besides you need the wallet private key not the public address. It's not possible. A Bitcoin address is effectively (not truly) random although it's derived using a 160-bit hash of the public portion of a public/private ECDSA keypair. Using public-key cryptography, you can "sign" data with your private key and anyone who knows your public key can verify that the signature is valid. How to create Bitcoin Address Take a private ECDSA key Take the corresponding public key generated with the ECDSA key (65 bytes, 1 byte 0x04, 32 bytes corresponding to X coordinate, 32 bytes corresponding to Y coordinate) Perform SHA-256 hashing on the public key Perform RIPEMD-160 hashing on the result of SHA-256 Add version byte in front of RIPEMD-160 hash (0x00 for Main Network) Perform SHA-256 hash on the extended RIPEMD-160 result Perform SHA-256 hash on the result of the previous SHA-256 hash Take the first 4 bytes of the second SHA-256 hash. This is the address checksum. Add the 4 checksum bytes from the end of extended RIPEMD-160 hash. This is the 25-byte binary Bitcoin Address. Convert the result from a byte string into a base58 string using Base58Check encoding. This is the most commonly used Bitcoin Address format. Bitcoin addresses are the pubkeyhash (not pubkey) plus version and checksum information, encoded in base 58. Bitcoin address = version + RIPEMD-160(SHA-256( Public Key )) + checksum This is not the point and the question is not about it. If you try to randomly generate a key, then it is impossible (or virtually impossible). But the key pair is not generated completely random. It uses a random number generator which depends on the seeds. So with these clues it will not be completely random any more. There's no such thing as a computer generated truly random number but the difficulty of using brute force to find a computer generated Bitcoin private key would take : pow(2,128) / (15 * pow(2,40)) / 3600 / 24 / 365.25 / 1e9 / 1e9 or 0.65 billion years. Your computation is fraud. again this is NOT about randomly generate bitcoin address and then match. If you look at how the address is generated, the GetNewAdress() function, eventually call certain random function, the random seeding is generated using a utility function: inline int64_t GetPerformanceCounter() { int64_t nCounter = 0; #ifdef WIN32 QueryPerformanceCounter((LARGE_INTEGER*)&nCounter); #else timeval t; gettimeofday(&t, NULL); nCounter = (int64_t) t.tv_sec * 1000000 + t.tv_usec; #endif return nCounter; } which gets its seed from the system time. If I set system time back to 2009/2010, and repetitively generating bitcoin address using these seeds, my chances hitting one of the addresses used that time is definitely much higher than your computation, which assumes I pick up a random seed. Got it now?? Here is the GetNewAddress function: CPubKey CWallet::GenerateNewKey() { bool fCompressed = CanSupportFeature(FEATURE_COMPRPUBKEY); RandAddSeedPerfmon(); <== which will eventually call the GetPerformanceCounter CKey key; key.MakeNewKey(fCompressed); ... ... ... return key.GetPubKey(); } You realize you stopped just short of answering your own question, right? void RandAddSeed() { // Seed with CPU performance counter int64_t nCounter = GetPerformanceCounter(); RAND_add(&nCounter, sizeof(nCounter), 1.5); memory_cleanse((void*)&nCounter, sizeof(nCounter)); } static void RandAddSeedPerfmon() { RandAddSeed(); #ifdef WIN32 On Linux, OpenSSL automatically uses /dev/urandom static int64_t nLastPerfmon; if (GetTime() < nLastPerfmon + 10 * 60) return; nLastPerfmon = GetTime(); Performance counters depend on the configuration of the computer being used and will not be the same just because you "turn back the clock" which will do absolutely nothing for you. Did you come across Satoshi's original 2009 computer because that's the only way you could come even close to finding the original seed. You could waste the rest of your life trying and never even come close. |
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I am always wondering this question. Of course from the computer science point of view, nothing is really random. You have a random function which may use system timestamp as a seed, or combination of mac address, computer architecture etc. So if I try to generate the bitcoin address using the similar conditions that Satoshi once had, maybe I can generate his address with a larger probability and may succeed one day, and get his lost treasure, lol. Though sounds not easy, but it is still possible, right?
You will never successfully generate Satoshi's addresses besides you need the wallet private key not the public address. It's not possible. A Bitcoin address is effectively (not truly) random although it's derived using a 160-bit hash of the public portion of a public/private ECDSA keypair. Using public-key cryptography, you can "sign" data with your private key and anyone who knows your public key can verify that the signature is valid. How to create Bitcoin Address Take a private ECDSA key Take the corresponding public key generated with the ECDSA key (65 bytes, 1 byte 0x04, 32 bytes corresponding to X coordinate, 32 bytes corresponding to Y coordinate) Perform SHA-256 hashing on the public key Perform RIPEMD-160 hashing on the result of SHA-256 Add version byte in front of RIPEMD-160 hash (0x00 for Main Network) Perform SHA-256 hash on the extended RIPEMD-160 result Perform SHA-256 hash on the result of the previous SHA-256 hash Take the first 4 bytes of the second SHA-256 hash. This is the address checksum. Add the 4 checksum bytes from the end of extended RIPEMD-160 hash. This is the 25-byte binary Bitcoin Address. Convert the result from a byte string into a base58 string using Base58Check encoding. This is the most commonly used Bitcoin Address format. Bitcoin addresses are the pubkeyhash (not pubkey) plus version and checksum information, encoded in base 58. Bitcoin address = version + RIPEMD-160(SHA-256( Public Key )) + checksum This is not the point and the question is not about it. If you try to randomly generate a key, then it is impossible (or virtually impossible). But the key pair is not generated completely random. It uses a random number generator which depends on the seeds. So with these clues it will not be completely random any more. There's no such thing as a computer generated truly random number but the difficulty of using brute force to find a computer generated Bitcoin private key would take : pow(2,128) / (15 * pow(2,40)) / 3600 / 24 / 365.25 / 1e9 / 1e9 or 0.65 billion years. |
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I am always wondering this question. Of course from the computer science point of view, nothing is really random. You have a random function which may use system timestamp as a seed, or combination of mac address, computer architecture etc. So if I try to generate the bitcoin address using the similar conditions that Satoshi once had, maybe I can generate his address with a larger probability and may succeed one day, and get his lost treasure, lol. Though sounds not easy, but it is still possible, right?
You will never successfully generate Satoshi's addresses besides you need the wallet private key not the public address. It's not possible. A Bitcoin address is effectively (not truly) random although it's derived using a 160-bit hash of the public portion of a public/private ECDSA keypair. Using public-key cryptography, you can "sign" data with your private key and anyone who knows your public key can verify that the signature is valid. How to create Bitcoin Address Take a private ECDSA key Take the corresponding public key generated with the ECDSA key (65 bytes, 1 byte 0x04, 32 bytes corresponding to X coordinate, 32 bytes corresponding to Y coordinate) Perform SHA-256 hashing on the public key Perform RIPEMD-160 hashing on the result of SHA-256 Add version byte in front of RIPEMD-160 hash (0x00 for Main Network) Perform SHA-256 hash on the extended RIPEMD-160 result Perform SHA-256 hash on the result of the previous SHA-256 hash Take the first 4 bytes of the second SHA-256 hash. This is the address checksum. Add the 4 checksum bytes from the end of extended RIPEMD-160 hash. This is the 25-byte binary Bitcoin Address. Convert the result from a byte string into a base58 string using Base58Check encoding. This is the most commonly used Bitcoin Address format. Bitcoin addresses are the pubkeyhash (not pubkey) plus version and checksum information, encoded in base 58. Bitcoin address = version + RIPEMD-160(SHA-256( Public Key )) + checksum |
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A happy day to all. Enjoy celebrating the birth of the bastard offspring of an unsolicited rape of a virgin teenaged girl by an older man without her knowledge.  Well, the day is finally here. Merry Christmas to all the super Christians like Josh Dugger out there. Happy Day off work to everyone else.  |
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BADecker, just admit it. Your god is a pervert that likes knocking up little girls. Here's a picture of the age of the girl he impregnated holding a baby and you think it's ok! Dude that's sick.  As usual, you make all kinds of presumptions and conjecture. The girl in the picture could be anybody. In addition, if she is the mother, she doesn't look unhappy at all. If her family is around to take care of her, what would be wrong? Kansas and Massachusetts allow 12-year-olds to get married with consent of parents. You might not like it, but it is legal and lawful, if done under the right circumstances. How retarded are you trying to prove yourself to be?  So you're from one of those states where perverts live? You think ripping a 14 year old child's vagina open with child birth is ok? Wow, I had no idea you were "that" way. Gross. |
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BADecker, just admit it. Your god is a pervert that likes knocking up little girls. Here's a picture of the age of the girl he impregnated holding a baby and you think it's ok! Dude that's sick. |
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I think they believe it's more like this:  The good news is, now they have something to chant. |
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This forum is a sausage fest. I think there's like 30 females on this forum and 15 of them look like this.  |
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Sweet, those people that always believed Bitcoin was a cult now have proof.
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A happy day to all. Enjoy celebrating the birth of the bastard offspring of an unsolicited rape of a virgin teenaged girl by an older man without her knowledge. It wasn't rape. She knew ahead of time because the Angel Gabrielle came to her and told her. Because of her circumstances, her age at the time made her a consenting adult. So, it wasn't rape. It was voluntary consent. Get on track and accept Jesus salvation before it is too late for you. So, if I want to rape a young girl I just need to send one of my bros to her house and tell her I'm going to impregnate her. Then it's not rape, got it. Mary was young (11-14 years of age) when she was "BETHROED" to Joseph. According to the Priest of Saint Mary's Catholic Church: "Mary was approximately 14 years old when she got pregnant with Jesus. Joseph, Mary's Husband is believed to be around 36 years. BADecker, you pervert, a 14 year old girl can't give "voluntary consent". At that age it's always rape. Happy Rape Day BADecker. you wacko. She was engaged to be married. Any woman who is engaged to be married, has the right of an adult. Everyone beware of BADecker. Keep your daughters away. He thinks it's ok to marry 11 year old girls and that if he marries an 11 year old it's not "technically" rape. Are you 36 years old like Joseph? LOL |
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A happy day to all. Enjoy celebrating the birth of the bastard offspring of an unsolicited rape of a virgin teenaged girl by an older man without her knowledge. It wasn't rape. She knew ahead of time because the Angel Gabrielle came to her and told her. Because of her circumstances, her age at the time made her a consenting adult. So, it wasn't rape. It was voluntary consent. Get on track and accept Jesus salvation before it is too late for you. So, if I want to rape a young girl I just need to send one of my bros to her house and tell her I'm going to impregnate her. Then it's not rape, got it. Mary was young (11-14 years of age) when she was "BETHROED" to Joseph. According to the Priest of Saint Mary's Catholic Church: "Mary was approximately 14 years old when she got pregnant with Jesus. Joseph, Mary's Husband is believed to be around 36 years. BADecker, you pervert, a 14 year old girl can't give "voluntary consent". At that age it's always rape. Happy Rape Day BADecker. |
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A happy day to all. Enjoy celebrating the birth of the bastard offspring of an unsolicited rape of a virgin teenaged girl by an older man without her knowledge. |
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I'm surprised anyone buys porn at all.
Have You tested online video interactive cam2cam shows? It's still just porn unless you meet me somewhere and I can interactively shove my junk up inside you. |
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I've seen lots of people sell hacked accs with btc lol, but no major porn site actually offering btc.
That's unfortunate. The would make much more profits if they did IMO I'm surprised anyone buys porn at all. Do people not know what usenet a.b.p.e (alt.binaries.pictures.erotica) is? There's almost no kind of porn that isn't free on usenet. |
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 What do you like best about bitcoin? Decentralization, transparency or easier to move? Or just it makes you look cool?  Well to be honest HELL YEAH!! MAKES ME COOL  i know i am not that cool but when my friends asked me that how is it i don't usually go out and pay my bills on time they got really shocked about it and then i told them about bitcoin at that time they thought i was joking really i told them that if you have bitcoin its much easier for you to move and to get easy paying taxes then they laugh at me because they got good jobs -_- but still i don't really mind because bitcoin is the most interesting that happened to me like its really the best and i like about it when you easily get pay your bills and buy stuff in the internet cheap stuff and cool awesome stuff too and i am a game my self so i buy games from the internet using bitcoin it really helps me and makes me cool as ever! Interesting, all the talk of decentralization is coming from Huobi.com, the people responsible for centralizing Bitcoin. LOL |
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Chinese miners rejecting transactions from the US? Is this true that China can take control of BTC transactions from now on.
They already took control. China owns bitcoin. It has been so for at least two years already I think I can safely assume that many people would disagree with that claim, but if they (I mean the Chinese) control Bitcoin in such a way that it rises 50 dollars every month on average without devastating plunges, many other people would happily agree to this type of control. Let's face the facts, the majority of people are here for profits, and Bitcoin is no more than a speculative vehicle for them. They don't particularly care about who controls Bitcoin as long as they are well off with their Bitcoin investments Not only are you right but you are even underestimating the number of people. I believe it's not just a simple majority but almost all people are using Bitcoin simply for profit. I have run across very few people that are using Bitcoin for ideological reasons and I have attended dozens of conferences and meetups. |
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I have strayed from my catholic past. Now I just do whatever I want. But there is still god in my brain for some reason. I still feel that he exists and I'm not doing things he wants. But then I just keep doing whatever I want and ignore the feeling. Maybe its just brain washing from when I was young or its real. I think brain washing..
Any religion based on brainwashing. You were right to abandon faith in God. What you have in brain there are principles that is good. Man lives in society and must adhere to certain rules of morality, but it has nothing to do with God. I agree with what your saying, it has nothing to do with god, but I would add that society isn't even really necessary. People have an innate sense of right and wrong that doesn't require a religion to teach it and some people are born with a physiological defect that turns that sense off. Irregardless of the existence of religion those two things hold true in all societies. Catholic priests have raped and molested little boys even though they are constantly surrounded by the teachings of religion but if you ask a normal non-religious person if they would rape a child and the idea of it makes them nauseous and disgusted. Ask a person without the antisocial physical brain defect to murder and they can't do it. Militaries spend thousands of hours brainwashing young people in training to enable them to go into battle and kill because without that training, even knowing their life is in jeopardy, they would hesitate and die themselves because they innately know killing is wrong. |
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70000 dollars is a huge money ,and there s a huge possibilty that i tmight again get hacked and u will cry over again.
$70k is huge money? That's less than I paid for my Mercedes. They couldn't even buy my car for their ransom. |
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Hell there is that drug they use in south america when they blow it in your face and you lose free will, they usually take you to an atm and say go withdrawal all your money and hand it to us and it usually works or even you help them move the shit out of your home into their vans.
doesnt quite work like that but im guessing you have been watching a tv show that mentions it, possibly about conmen, gypsies and psychics No I watched a documentary about it, actually this one : https://video.vice.com/en_us/video/worlds-scariest-drug-colombian-devil39s-breath-part-1/55ef5be749b3d5591cf227c4I am sure it isn't 100% but point is they could probably get you to tell your password to any crypto wallet with the stuff. Wow, that stuff would work great for divorce. Instead of paying alimony you just blow some powder in your ex-wife's face and tell her to jump off a bridge. LOL |
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