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1581  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [~200 Gh/s Mining Pool] INSTANT PAYOUT,+1% with LP! +0.8% for no failed blocks! on: April 27, 2011, 06:47:11 PM
Hmm... this seems like it would be more worth while since getting paid per share is kinda... low.. also my slow GPU isn't really doing shares all that fast heh
On average Proportional will give you 7% more than PPS. But it depends on pool's luck.
At this moment the luck is lower than usual, so you'll get more with PPS.

In both modes your reward depends partially or fully on the number of shares submitted.
1582  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [~200 Gh/s Mining Pool] INSTANT PAYOUT,+1% with LP! +0.8% for no failed blocks! on: April 27, 2011, 06:44:24 PM
So with proportional, I find a 50BTC block, i get paid ~40 something less a fee? How did I get 0.01 over the span of 1 hour then?
with pay per share, its pretty cut and dry. I just don't understand how proportion is working
When pool finds a block, it's divided propotionally to all the participants.
1583  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [~200 Gh/s Mining Pool] INSTANT PAYOUT,+1% with LP! +0.8% for no failed blocks! on: April 27, 2011, 06:30:30 PM
okay so I switched to a Cuda miner and it boosted to 60khash/s.... but I still don't understand how PPS versus proportional works... is there a wiki detailing this? I wanna find out which is better for BTC production!
It's on the main page.
I'll add the description on the registration page too...

anyone know what the whole "found hash!" thing that keeps poping in my CMD window is? I only started seeing it when I swithched to Cuda based RPC miner from poclbm
It means that you found a share. poclbm says "accepted" in this case.
1584  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [~200 Gh/s Mining Pool] INSTANT PAYOUT,+1% with LP! +0.8% for no failed blocks! on: April 27, 2011, 06:15:00 PM
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I'm going PPS :D
Good :)
But you should remember that each block's lenght doesn't depends on the previous ones :)
1585  Local / Русский (Russian) / Re: Перераспределение Local > Русский (Russian) on: April 27, 2011, 02:45:29 AM
2) Это не фальшивка. Покажите мне оригинал! :)
Liberty Dollars priznali fal'shivkoi dazhe bez originala, tak chto eto ne pomeshaet :)
1586  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: 4 Card Motherboard on: April 27, 2011, 01:51:35 AM
My question is does having cards in the 8x and 4x slots decrease your mining throughput?
No. PCIe x1 is perfectly fine for mining
1587  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: What is your current hashing capacity? on: April 27, 2011, 01:49:55 AM
I know the 5970's and 5870's are pretty much the 'sweet spot' right now. Hard to find new though.
You don't need new. Used ones are MUCH more cost-effective.
1588  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [~160 Gh/s Mining Pool] INSTANT PAYOUT,+1% with LP! +0.8% for no failed blocks! on: April 26, 2011, 07:59:05 PM
Tycho, can you write the average traffic that is generated to/from us, corresponding to Mhash/s ?
I counted about 44KB/s, which means around 5000MB per month for dedicated rig. Trying to reduce the packets, nothing more :)
44 Kbps is more than i expect. Should be around 600+ bytes per getwork.
Will check it.
1589  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [~160 Gh/s Mining Pool] INSTANT PAYOUT,+1% with LP! +0.8% for no failed blocks! on: April 26, 2011, 04:35:36 PM
Tycho, i have 9 workers so far and i need more!
i cannot use more? i don't see the button to create a worker  >:(
thanks
Fixed.
1590  Bitcoin / Mining software (miners) / Re: [MINER] Phoenix - New efficient, fast, modular miner **BFI_INT support!** on: April 26, 2011, 12:30:27 AM
What's interesting is RPCProtocol doesn't use any Python HTTP libraries, it's all done through Twisted;
so while it could be a problem in Twisted, I don't think the linked bug is the answer.

The lack of TCP_NODELAY is interesting. Doesn't that only disable Nagle's algorithm, which affects sends?
How would it delay received data?
Please, read this:
http://code.google.com/p/httplib2/issues/detail?id=28
http://code.google.com/p/httplib2/issues/detail?id=91

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During some tests I made, I measured some very long delays in replies to HTTP POST using httplib2.
It turns out the delays are caused by Nagle algorithm, and that performance can be greatly improved by setting TCPNODELAY, which disables Nagle's algorithm.
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Nagle vs delayed ack issues have been around for a while. The correct way to fix this is NOT to set TCPNODELAY but to fix httplib2 to issue the header and body as a combined write. This way small commands are issued in a single packet as the gods of TCP intended. Large commands are sent in multiple packets right away as Nagle doesn't apply in that case.

The TCPNODELAY fix is a workaround, but it results in inefficient bandwidth use.
1591  Bitcoin / Mining software (miners) / Re: [MINER] Phoenix - New efficient, fast, modular miner **BFI_INT support!** on: April 25, 2011, 09:54:11 PM
What's interesting is RPCProtocol doesn't use any Python HTTP libraries, it's all done through Twisted;
so while it could be a problem in Twisted, I don't think the linked bug is the answer.
The lack of TCP_NODELAY is interesting. Doesn't that only disable Nagle's algorithm, which affects sends?
How would it delay received data?
I didn't saw your source yet and can only see the results at my side, sorry.
It means that the reason for that delay is different. Look for a log fragment in PM.
1592  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: 5970? ubuntu? on: April 25, 2011, 08:19:37 PM
Curious for the PSU suggestions for a dual 5970.  Seems you could get by with a good 850 watt like an HX850?
850W is recommended, but good 750W one will work too (not recommended). Don't use cheap nameless PSUs, they are usually overrated.
1593  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Monitoring headless Mining PCs on: April 25, 2011, 06:32:25 PM
I cant wait for Tycho to implement notification for when a miner is down. I just check his site on my iPhone once an hour now but itll be nice to be able to chill by the pool without having to check.
Thanks for this reminder :)
1594  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Monitoring headless Mining PCs on: April 25, 2011, 06:01:49 PM
I just want to know if the mining program is still running, and hash speed if possible.
On the pool's site, in the case of deepbit.net, I would be looking at the "Shares" column?
Yes. Also you can set timeout threshold and worker name will turn red if no share is received within that time.
1595  Bitcoin / Mining software (miners) / Re: [MINER] Phoenix - New efficient, fast, modular miner **BFI_INT support!** on: April 25, 2011, 05:45:52 PM
A bit of a noob question here, but is there a particular directory in Windows 7 that Phoenix must be extracted to in order for it to function.  I can't seem to get the program to open properly, it just flashes the command prompt and closes.  I currently have it extracted to my desktop.
There is no GUI, you should supply some command-line arguments for it to work.
Start a command prompt (cmd) or some FAR-like file manager and try to run it from there.
1596  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Monitoring headless Mining PCs on: April 25, 2011, 05:21:32 PM
I am sure many have built several dedicated mining rigs without monitors attached.
How do you guys monitor the PCs to make sure the mining program is still running and not hanged?
I know I can use VNC to remotely login into the PC and check on it, but that requires me login into individual PCs.
I am in need of a way to monitor all mining clients all at once, whats the best way to do it?
What parameters do you want to monitor ? Hashing speeds, temps or what else ?

You can see how the mining program is running by looking at your personal page on the pool's site.
1597  Bitcoin / Mining software (miners) / Re: [MINER] Phoenix - New efficient, fast, modular miner **BFI_INT support!** on: April 25, 2011, 05:19:51 PM
Looks like you aren't receiving private messages from me, so i'm writing here.

Your miner inherited an old poclbm bug (or just recreated it) - reading pool's answer takes very long time with your miner, about ~200 ms and up to 2 sec in some cases - i see this in my pool's log. When we discussed this with m0mchil, he managed to fix it and now this delay is close to 0 ms.

Two possible causes of this:
1) Python bug - reading HTTP headers by one byte at a time ( http://bugs.python.org/issue1542407 )
2) TCP_NODELAY not used (looks like the main cause).

This may also help:
http://code.google.com/p/httplib2/issues/detail?id=91
http://code.google.com/p/httplib2/issues/detail?id=28

I'm not sure which one was the fix, but something should help :)
1598  Local / Юристы / Re: [Закон] Товарные биржи (шантажируем bitcoinex) on: April 25, 2011, 01:56:25 PM
Что за желание испортить людям жизнь ?
Ну прямо как тот хакер Вася с солонкой и перечницей.
1599  Local / Обменники / Re: Куплю биткоинов примерно на 30 000 рублей on: April 25, 2011, 06:42:51 AM
надо про кодировку в правила форума занести...
Да я забываю что форум глючный и жму "ответить" прямо в обычном браузере.

На btcex.com. Только продавайте не сразу а частями.
Там предложение очень маленькое, практически нету вообще.
1600  Local / Обменники / Re: Êóïëþ áèòêîèíîâ ïðèìåðíî íà 30 000 ðóáëåé on: April 25, 2011, 06:38:47 AM
Âîïðîñ ãäå âçÿòü. Êòî ïðîäàñò?
Смотря почём :) Можно договориться.
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