Having read that very informative post from you I firstly thank you but having paid extra attention to point #5 raised above I noted it could have stated:

5. Bitcoin Cash's official website states that the new digital currency fulfills the original promise of bitcoin as peer-to-peer electronic cash. The users are empowered with low fees and reliable confirmations and as proof that all developers and teams and whales behind this fork (which by far the majority of the Bitcoin community did not want) are so sure they are on the right path and Bitcoin is on the wrong path a decision has been made that on the first of the fork going live ALL developers and teams and whales behind this fork will sell their Bitcoin and invest in Bitcoin Cash. They will also never invest in Bitcoin because they do not believe in it and will only deal with Bitcoin Cash. This fork has not been created for the sake of billions of dollars that whales will receive by having non-mined free Bitcoin Cash as a result of the fork. This fork was created to save Bitcoin and find a new path because we are honest kind people who did all this for the sake of the community but as a side-effect of the fork the whales who pushed for the fork will get even more rich

So far it seems most people posting here go with the idea that Bitcoin Cash was created by whales to make money because of their greed and hope to destroy Bitcoin and not to provide a great facility to the community.

The Ethereum being famous part is not going to affect the ICO structure. There has to be a reason why more people choose ETH or WAVES

Any other questions please post here. Still looking forward to hearing from potential devs even though we have someone in mind but no final decision has been made.

Thank you

If Bitcoin Cash was created to make transactions cheaper then why did the whales not work with the whole community to create a fork to modify it and keep a single coin? Why use idealogical differences as an excuse to disrupt the community by creating a competing challenging coin?

That is probably very true. Some people have made their wealth known or overplayed their wealth for self-promotion advertising purposes and others have tried their best to just stay under the radar and enjoy their wealth without having the need to use a loudspeaker to shout from the rooftops about how many Bitcoins they have.

After going through the horrible experience of the whole Facebook situation I am so glad the Winklevoss twins invested the very same money the Courts forced Facebook to pay them. They invested around $11 million dollars buying Bitcoin for around $100 each. They ended up with around 110,000 Bitcoin directly as a result of the money received from Facebook and now look where we are. Zuckerbergs personal weealth and Facebooks market capital has fallen as a result of various issues surrounding user data being misued and legal implications leading on to billions in fines in multiple vicinites. The US will do what they have to do to punish and reign in Facebook (for a while at least), the same will apply to the European Union.

While Zuckerberg and Facebook take a financial beating and have their reputation in tatters and face international lawsuits, the Winklevoss twins have kept a low profile and not seeked out any publicity. The Winklevoss twins have kept a diginified silence throughout and thoroughly deserve their wealth. I cannot recall them ever trying to influence the path of Bitcoin and force through forks like other whales have done. They seem like really nice people.

The irony is that within a couple of years if that, their Bitcoin holding alone with be worth more than Zuckerbergs Facebook stock and they managed to get there thanks to the penatly the Courts forced Facebook to pay the Winklevoss twins. Great karma

Now that is a very impressive thread dating back to 2014. I browsed some of the pages. You seem to have form, track record and feedback.

I think I may have found the dev for our job. Still am negotiating and conversing with others and now decision will be made until a couple of weeks but you seem to have ALL the skills.

Please look out for the PM I will send later today or tomorrow. Thank you

Thanks for that. I thought it took close to around 3 days the previous time I tried to sync last year but the blockchain has obviously increased since then.

Thank you audaciousbeing I really appreciate it, you hit the nail on the head. I remember when Kitteh-Lynx was forked people not holding Kitteh jumped on it and bought plenty in advance. No doubt same for other crypto forks and upgrades.

As soon as we decide which dev we will work with we will start the project and keep it under wraps until everything is ready to go. We will have to trust a dev and partially pay upfront so we have to be sure we ge the right person to work with us.

Sure we will share the shortlist with devs who are interested in working with us and only after we think they are suitable to work on our project.

Thank you for showing interest. We have narrowed it down to a tiny shortlist but it should be POW with masternode.

I just posted a job for "Dev Wanted". Had I seen this post I would have checked it out before posting but anyways thank you, I will check it out. I appreciate it.

Another thing I noticed is that you linked directly to the website as a king gesture to help people out. I received PMs from people adding /affid=12345 after the domain and saying they just want to help me.

A few folk from here have a coin in mind and have decided to try a fork. We are not doing this from the kindness of our hearts, we have all contributed funds towards the project with a view to making profit and money for ourselves and hopefully for other investors.

I already had some communication with devs to get quotes but the key structure is as follows:

Dev to receive 0.15 Bitcoin in advance when hired
Dev to receive 0.85 Bitcoin when coin is relaunched and open to public
Dev to receive negotiated % of the relaunched coin after 6 months loyalty period

The money for the dev and the associated costs are in place. The money for adding on to 2 very small exchanges is in place. Hope to add to 2 other exchanges (one fairly big) at time of launch. Full terms and conditions to be given later.

Right now we are just looking for an experienced dev to manage the fork as how we want it done. No PMs until specifically requested please.

If you are interested in working with us kindly post here stating who you are what experience you have. Most important of all please state why you think we should select you. Posting here means others can see the messages and if anybody has intentions of scamming then hopefully other people will point them out. Once the initial contact is made we will write via PM.

Thanks

Once downloaded how long will it take to sync?

Nicely put. Having purchased "bitcoin.com" years ago to directly challenge "bitcoin.org" to try and influence the path forward simply because the whales had thousands of Bitcoin. Failing in that they added along with fancy slogans a host of PR in an attempt to take over the Bitcoin project by replacing it with Bitcoin Cash. Their exercise failed.

I have no interest in the politics between the BTC and BCH camps but I can safely say it seems Bitcoin Cash was created as a deliberate act to destroy and hijack Bitcoin under the guise of "we are doing it for Satoshi and his real vision for the sake of saving Bitcoin and helping the community".

Bitcoin Cash could have been a revolutionary innovation to maybe even succeed Bitcoin in the long run but in the end it seems a cheap immitation by a group of power-grabbing power-hungry greedy profit seeking whales who wanted to be in total control of the coin that would take over from Bitcoin at all costs. They failed in an opportunity to bring something special to the table for the sake of the community but in the end their desire to destroy Bitcoin and the team behind Bitcoin was the real driving force along with free coins from the fork that drove the whales to create Bitcoin Cash.

Bitcoin Cash is nothing more or less than any other crypto out there, it has not and probably will not touch Bitcoin.

Thanks for the link InvoKing, it makes very interesting reading.

I have seen some projects claiming to be super eco-friendly but in the end all crypto investors want returns and most do not care about how the funds are generated.

In an ideal world eco-friendly crypto mining (and all things associated with datacenters, servers, electricity etc) are very important but at this stage of the game most people have no interest except profit. Even most of those pushing eco-friendly businesses forward just want to make a profit and not contribute to the cause. Intersting project though.

Yes that is the biggest thing holding instant swaps back, their margins are currently much bigger but some exchanges rip people off by charging withdrawal fees and transactions fees

Interesting. Which projects are being run by OGNasty Tesla PowerWall?

When you put it that way the similarities are stark but there is a fundamental difference  

As it stands Bitcoin Cash is hanging on in there but has not even slightly dented Bitcoin or the enthusiasm surrounding it. If the whales were to create a fork from Bitcoin with a view to helping the community long term then Bitcoin Cash should have been pushed through with a clearer and stronger mandate with advanced attributes not possessed by Bitcoin. Just the desire to show the Bitcoin Board (as you put it) that they could fork and create a new coin was never going to be enough. It seems the Bitcoin Cash creators always had an ulterior motive which was to reap financial benefits that fork would bring but would never part with their Bitcoin regardless. If they really believed in Bitcoin Cash those whales would have got rid of the Bitcoin and that is the fundamental difference between the two scenarios because both those Christian denominations followed their own religious edicts after the split without weaving in and out of each others' teachings and without holding on to the cloth of the other group just in case they needed jump ship and follow the other group.

In this case people who gained Bitcoin Cash as a result of the fork should sell all their Bitcoin and hold their Bitcoin Cash till their hearts content, that is if they actually believe in what they preach. Those holding Bitcoin who did not want the fork but received Bitcoin Cash should by all means sell them and follow the yellow brick road to Oz via Bitcoin.

That was my thinking but only time will tell. As with usual if there is a demand for something in general it usually happens and in the process lowers the cost as competitors emerge and saturate the market.