Core devs have fixed the first from day 1 and the second will never happen cause Sumokoin has a different genesis_hash from Monero The check code will be removed though just to clean up and avoid further confusion So no worries there! However thank you for notifying! |
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Hey, can someone please explain what may be the consequence for Sumo regarding this DMCA file?
No consequences at all. It's a formal issue that I assume will be fixed soon. It just demonstrated toxicity and corporate approach of monero development. It would be no wonder if people run away from such a hostile coin to an alternatives like sumo&co that are true open-source. This idiotic approach monero demonstrated show its fear. The whole thing could have been discussed via email. Are they afraid of quality forks? Aeon that is a copycat and has one but the only dev is coming from monero, therefore no prob although it's code and copyright is a mess.. Now bytecoin will behave in a same way and block monero? I seriously don't get this.. My 2 cents - open-source was a vehicle for crypto launch but as soon as money came to play people are behaving like asses and are forgetting that code is free and everyone can use it, enhance and share.. Kids, don't take the game so seriously. You can't escape alive  Stop blaming other projects if you did the wrong thing... doesn't matter if things could have been resolved via email, issue or whatever ... THING IS THIS SHOULD NOT HAVE BE AN ISSUE AT ALL... abide the rules and give copyright where its due ... As you copy&pasted everything else, why didn't you just add a file for Sumocoin and let the old stuff as it was ... you even deleted cryptonote-devs out ... they could blame you too... stop attacking the messenger I see you stealthily deleted the cryptonote mention 1. Cryptonote copyright was always there check the code again. (# Parts of this file are originally copyright (c) 2012-2013 The Cryptonote developers) - And since it was there all the time sumoshi didnt mention it on his post 2. Well obviously it doesnt matter to you monero devs that these things can be resolved via issue on git or email. Like this poor guy did when you unintentionaly infringed his code when Monero was still a young coin https://github.com/monero-project/monero/issues/1083. A claimant is not a messanger, a claimant is a claimant Edit: I ve just stealthily deleted the irony  I checked gitlab too, so i decided to delete the cryptonote message. 2. someone was contacted in your telegram, that guy should have known how to reach out to you. So some sort of contact was done... and like i said elsewhere ... you only had to add your credentials below... README.md was a Copy&Paste Job ... and you ACTIVELY altered that copy&paste thing... you could just have added your copyright below what already was in that README.md . Also defending with another wrong doesn't make ones wrong better... thats kindergarten reasoning. 1. ok about this no hard feelings 2. A random guy who picked up a conversation on Monero's irc indeed alerted by making a post on telegram but like any other coin's telegram channel there is a rate of 1000/hour "when lambo" and "when moon" posts so actual info is hard to be processed there. The actual contributor that filed the report alerted noone neither by opening an issue like its standard practice in open source or at least send an email to the email address mentioned on our repo. Indeed it was just a copy paste job and we would have immediately done it if we were informed properly like we did already. Such things and mistakes happen every day in open source developing and 99.999% of the time are solved amicably via proper dev to dev communication. I am glad that the core Monero community justifies our frustration and we totaly agree with the suggestion to open official communication channels to avoid such issues in the future. Despite the things that separate us and the overzealous community's slandering (which is a normal thing) there are more things that connect us. So lets move on |
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A personal note now that the dust has settled and we are dealing with the aftermath of yesterday's events.
We should credit Monero core dev community the fact that they justify our frustration and have expressed their clear and in writing disagreement (on reddit / links available in private) with the course of action taken by a solitary Monero code contributor concerning our github repo DMCA takedown.
He was legally right but his actions place a dark cloud above any open source project and a fear to all developers that their repo could be shut down for unintentionally misstating the open source copyright notices without prior developer to developer communication. (we have stated all over, since day 1, that Sumokoin is a Monero fork, both here and on our repo so our intentions cannot be challenged)
It's up to core Monero Project collaborators though to regulate their community and protect the open source spirit.
Despite our various disagreements and despite the slander exchanged between both communities, there is a clearly expressed and agreed will for coexistance and better official communication in the future and on all subjects
In the meantime, we move on as per schedule
Regarding the repo, I personally see three options
1. We stay on gitlab and continue development there
2. The takedown is lifted and we reinstate our previous repo
3. We make a new repo on github since now our open source copyright notices are amended
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The Monero claimant should be kicked out of the Monero project. Whiners instead of bridge builders have no place in private civil society. Of course, this is different if reasonable efforts were made to have the copyright notice changed before the claim was made.
I couldnt agree more but this is actually Monero project's decision to discuss and make. If reasonable efforts were made everyone would have noticed them on our git (an issue) or the email would have been posted by the claimant and we would have lowered our heads, accept the takedown and shut our mouths. This is the actual issue here, the reasonable efforts before a legal action against another open source project. The claimant unknowingly challenged the libertarianism of the open source movement. |
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Hey, can someone please explain what may be the consequence for Sumo regarding this DMCA file?
No consequences at all. It's a formal issue that I assume will be fixed soon. It just demonstrated toxicity and corporate approach of monero development. It would be no wonder if people run away from such a hostile coin to an alternatives like sumo&co that are true open-source. This idiotic approach monero demonstrated show its fear. The whole thing could have been discussed via email. Are they afraid of quality forks? Aeon that is a copycat and has one but the only dev is coming from monero, therefore no prob although it's code and copyright is a mess.. Now bytecoin will behave in a same way and block monero? I seriously don't get this.. My 2 cents - open-source was a vehicle for crypto launch but as soon as money came to play people are behaving like asses and are forgetting that code is free and everyone can use it, enhance and share.. Kids, don't take the game so seriously. You can't escape alive Stop blaming other projects if you did the wrong thing... doesn't matter if things could have been resolved via email, issue or whatever ... THING IS THIS SHOULD NOT HAVE BE AN ISSUE AT ALL... abide the rules and give copyright where its due ... As you copy&pasted everything else, why didn't you just add a file for Sumocoin and let the old stuff as it was ... you even deleted cryptonote-devs out ... they could blame you too... stop attacking the messenger I see you stealthily deleted the cryptonote mention 1. Cryptonote copyright was always there check the code again. (# Parts of this file are originally copyright (c) 2012-2013 The Cryptonote developers) - And since it was there all the time sumoshi didnt mention it on his post 2. Well obviously it doesnt matter to you monero devs that these things can be resolved via issue on git or email. Like this poor guy did when you unintentionaly infringed his code when Monero was still a young coin https://github.com/monero-project/monero/issues/1083. A claimant is not a messanger, a claimant is a claimant Edit: I ve just stealthily deleted the irony |
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Regarding the DMCA takedown on githubhttps://gitlab.com/Sumoprojects/sumokoin (new official repo till the issue is shorted) Monero developers had an issue with the way Sumokoin created its copyright notice, the issue is legally justifiable Copyright (c) 2016-2017, SUMOKOIN, (forked from) The Monero Project when it should have been this Copyright (c) 2017, SUMOKOIN Copyright (c) 2014-2017, The Monero Project however instead of opening an issue on our repo and advise to amend (in the spirit of the free source nature of crypto and especially in the anonymous coins realm) they went ahead and filed a DMCA claim, under oath, right away. https://github.com/github/dmca/blob/master/2018/2018-01-25-Monero.mdGithub had no option than to go ahead with it. Monero has acted the way a private corporation would have acted to protect its product from competition, unvailing their true intentions regarding the future of their coin and its use. We expect more from them in the future. We move on, Sumokoin is strong and healthy as always!
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Can you please stick to the Monero thread where you belong? You are not welcomed here |
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Every time I bring up the fact that this wannabe Monero crypto hasn't implemented watch-only/cold/offline signing wallet features which are pretty much standard in wallets of some of the top cryptos including that of Monero's for a very good reason, the cheerleaders get into their usual predictable defensive/attack/insult mode and seem to dislike and reject such very important features. I don't get it. Anybody who hodls tokens and in their right minds would welcome such features and in fact, would insist to have them. Therefore I conclude that these cheerleaders don't know jack chit and are clueless about what these features actually do.
This wannabe crypto pretty much lifted everything from Monero. Might as well lift Monero's official wallet too which already has these features. Why reinvent the wheel? So it can claim that it is different from Monero? I don't get it.
Do you go to this forum for repentance? You are no longer taken seriously, you have outlived yourself. You remind me of the shadow that falls from Sumokoin. Appear only when the sun shines (when the update comes out) and disappears when is sunset (when your negative thoughts are not perceived by the community). Resign yourself to this and live for your pleasure, stop being a laughing stock, your masters simply use you and they will forget about you when your ridiculous arguments finally cease to act on people's opinion. And it will be very soon, your oblivion is near. No. I "go to this forum" to stay away from depressing posers like you (ya, you heard me; "posers" and not posters)..but here you are. Stay off your prescription "pain" meds before you reply so you don't end up with a spacey and discombobulated post like you just did...or get off Google translate...whatever your case may be. Trying to decipher your post is giving me a headache. The headache is good. It's better that you have a headache than you will be distracted by your stupid reasoning. Get off your meds or get off Google translate. Get somebody you know who has better command of English to express your thoughts and post it here so we could understand what you're trying to say to us. Actually I do not understand what you say. Your English is terrible. And you're still trying to prove something to someone. You so funny 😂 Ahhh, "You so funny"...love you long time, Joe! I'd give it a rest while you're not that much far behind...if I were you. Who's that? A new account? Are they multiplying? Edit: Oh its you. For a moment your rank was Newbie |
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A cheerleader just confirmed that it's all about them and not about providing usable wallet features that benefit the general token hodlers/users. Based on his statement, if he is not concerned about and don't need these features himself, then we shouldn't have it either. Like I said, selfish.
You've lost me |
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Well, while I'm here and on a roll, I might as well ask again and hopefully, somebody in the know could answer my question since the cheerleaders (and a jealous ex-significant other) are only good at cheerleading...and nothing else.
Are the watch-only/offline (cold)/offline signing wallet features ever gonna be implemented or not at all? If they are going to be, what's the time frame since there's no mention of it on the road map?
Yes mister it is, along with a total revamp of the GUI wallet. EDIT: dont ask for an exact date though. Most likely in spring as it was planned in the first place. |
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I am beginning to enjoy this actually
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is there any way to recover a wallet if I lost the seed words?
I made a new wallet on the same computer and I lost the old one.. but I didnt erase any file
Try look for any wallet.dat in programdata. It might still reside there. If you found more than one wallet.dat, you might still be able to recover it. There is no wallet.dat in sumokoin "I made a new wallet on the same computer and I lost the old one.. but I didnt erase any file" - Where you working with the cli or the gui wallet? |
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"Bulletproofs" has nothing to do with real/actual bullets, silly.
Edit: Is the blond girl that got hit by the bullet one of the cheerleaders on here? Very cute. She's hot, in fact.
Thank you for clarifying that Bulletproofs have nothing to do with real bullets. About the girl, despite the things that separate us we have the same taste in women |
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Any news about new exchanges that I missed? I see someone wrote about HitBTC in reddit.
Someone please ? We got listed on the soon to open for trading https://next.exchange/ and we are planning to get listed on other big ones as well. Announcements will be made when something is 100% certain ( https://next.exchange/ listing is 100% confirmed though ) Cryptopia and Livecoin are of course available to trade Sumokoin as always |
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This project sounded interesting and I did bought just a small number of coins. But there are still some things that I can't figure.
This project really needs a good documentation on website
What kind of things? Maybe I can direct you accordingly |
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