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161  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO]Artemine- First Self Mining Smart Contract 2.0 - ICO LIVE - 400% BONUS on: September 15, 2017, 04:32:54 PM
I don't think valid concerns (such as quiet /unknown dev) they should not be played down as "FUD".

It's the fact that these "concerns" were followed by "HEY BY THE WAY GUYS CHECK OUT THIS TOTALLY AWESOME ICO THAT YOU SHOULD SELL ALL OF YOUR MNE FOR TO GET IN ON IT"

Give me a break...

Well that part is off topic, but why not focus on the part that is on topic? From my pov your reaction is even more off topic than the original statement.

From my POV he's using this thread to spread awareness/market a completely unrelated project by shitting all over MNE, the dev has posted information and been moderately active with responses, he could be much better, he's not, if you want to invest then do it but if not GTFO and definitely do not plug another project it's just bad etiquette...let's move on...
162  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO]Artemine- First Self Mining Smart Contract 2.0 - ICO LIVE - 400% BONUS on: September 15, 2017, 03:41:18 PM
I don't think valid concerns (such as quiet /unknown dev) they should not be played down as "FUD".

It's the fact that these "concerns" were followed by "HEY BY THE WAY GUYS CHECK OUT THIS TOTALLY AWESOME ICO THAT YOU SHOULD SELL ALL OF YOUR MNE FOR TO GET IN ON IT"

Give me a break...
163  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: VERITASEUM DISCUSSION THREAD on: September 15, 2017, 02:53:53 PM
Reggie Live now on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_pWPZORXY8

Still on track for Sept 18 with Jamaica Stock Exchange.

New NEWS: In negotiations with 3 Asian countries and 1 African country!!!!

EDIT 9 HOURS LATER:
And the thread yawns!!!

3 Asian countries! That's huge! I'm guessing: Vietnam, Phillipines, and maybe a big one like S Korea or Japan. Which might mean the "Top 10" stock exchange is the Japanese one...

The price should really be at 1 ETH by now, this is an amazing project with limited supply and a potential extreme demand in the true financial sphere.

I can't believe people don't see this.

I think it's hard for people to see 'this' value because there's no marketing, the outreach Reggie does (which is awesome) still looks super amateur so the really big concepts get muddled with the poor quality production(sorry it's just true it's 2017 people care about this shit), and they have to go to EtherDelta which frankly scares a lot of people and if all they had to do was sign onto their Bittrex or whatever exchange that makes them comfortable then we would see a much quicker value bump.

That being said, I think the speculation phase on this enigmatic but exciting project has reached an end and when the big news come in and the software is becoming more and more real this will climb to parity with ETH.
164  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO]Artemine- First Self Mining Smart Contract 2.0 - ICO LIVE - 400% BONUS on: September 15, 2017, 02:43:35 PM
Guys.. I don't know. I was interested in this ICO at first, but.. the dev is handling this thread and ICO so badly that I won't invest a dime here. I would recommend you to get out as long as you can. We don't even know who dev is only some claims about opening a company in Switzerland... then there is no real smart contract for this ICO, just a normal wallet address. Lots of red flags in my opinion - despite "dev always delivered" claims.

My proposal would be to get the BTC you can still get for your MNE and join the WiC ICO on livecoin which is still in stage 2 for BTC and ends in two days.

Lol this is one of the most legit ico's I've seen on this forum, go back to FUD school homie

LOL @ FUD school  Grin
165  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO]Artemine- First Self Mining Smart Contract 2.0 - ICO LIVE - 400% BONUS on: September 15, 2017, 04:19:18 AM
omg its started already? I did not notice its. its not that promoted.. Sad is the website down?

The website is fully functional, you're still in on the first day price of 100x MNE so send your tokens in the next 18 hours and you're good!
166  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: 【ANN】GXB Decentralized Data Exchange, Contend >1 Trillion CNY Data Market on: September 15, 2017, 03:17:01 AM
Any plans to list GXS on English exchange even small one? Everything GXS/CNY  Cry

I second this, would love to invest especially while it's this cheap!!
167  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO]Artemine- First Self Mining Smart Contract 2.0 - ICO LIVE - 400% BONUS on: September 15, 2017, 12:14:42 AM


HOW DO YOU GET GAS?

DO YOU HAVE TO HAVE ETH?

DO I NEED TO DO ANYTHING SPECIAL BEFORE SENDING MNE TO MY ETHER WALLET?


THANKS FOR ANY RESPONSES

GAS is actually the name of the fee in the ethereum blockchain, but actually is just eth, you simply will be charged a small amount of GAS(Ethereum), when you do a transaction.



DO I NEED TO ADD A CUSTOM TOKEN MNE TO MY WALLET BEFORE I SEND MNE THERE?



HOW MANY DECIMAL PLACES?


PLEASE HELP, THANKS

No there's already an MNE recognition on MEW, just simply send your MNE to MEW and send to the ICO address.
168  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: September 15, 2017, 12:13:40 AM
Hello Byteball community, could anyone shed light on the relationship between Hshares and Byteball.  I was pretty surprised to see Byteball used in their Whitepaper/Roadmap but really not understanding the connection between the two projects.  Any info would be appreciated!
169  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO]Artemine- First Self Mining Smart Contract 2.0 - ICO LIVE - 400% BONUS on: September 15, 2017, 12:05:37 AM


HOW DO YOU GET GAS?

DO YOU HAVE TO HAVE ETH?

DO I NEED TO DO ANYTHING SPECIAL BEFORE SENDING MNE TO MY ETHER WALLET?


THANKS FOR ANY RESPONSES

You should have about .01 in your myetherwallet before sending to the Artemine ICO.
170  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Minereum - First Self Mining Smart Contract - ARTEMINE ICO NOW LIVE on: September 15, 2017, 12:01:32 AM
1 Genesis Address = 1.8mne/day ~3$/mne.
1.8mne=180arte=1.0368arte/day ~5$/arte.

if ico 54mne=5400ARTE ~162$

after end ico

1 MNE Genesis Address=54mne ~162$
1 ARTE Genesis Address=1.0368arte/day

after 1st month

1 MNE Genesis Address=54mne total=54+54 ~324$

1 ARTE Genesis Address=31.1arte if price = 10$ ~ 310$


ggggooodd... are you sure?

OK people, he's making a MASSIVE ASSUMPTION that Arte will be worth 10$ right away.  It's possible and I would be a very very happy man if this were true, but I don't see it being valued over 5$ AT MOST until we see more applications and development.  Again, I would love to be wrong Smiley
171  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] Artemine - First Self Mining Smart Contract 2.0 - ICO Starts Sep. 14 on: September 14, 2017, 05:36:19 PM
WTF DEVELOPER, you could not have told us that you are not accepting anyone from the USA prior to making this live?

What are the issues if you are a US citizen?  This is kind of bullshit though I agree..

isn't this with all ico's ? and the fault (result) of the laws ?

Yes, totally, I think every ICO has to say this for legal reasons.
172  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] Artemine - First Self Mining Smart Contract 2.0 - ICO Starts Sep. 14 on: September 14, 2017, 05:29:04 PM
WTF DEVELOPER, you could not have told us that you are not accepting anyone from the USA prior to making this live?

What are the issues if you are a US citizen?  This is kind of bullshit though I agree..
173  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] Artemine - First Self Mining Smart Contract 2.0 - ICO Starts Sep. 14 on: September 14, 2017, 02:46:56 PM
Sigh, I did tell you that everybody would be dumping on ICO day. People came to the same realisation that I did. Things cannot rise in value if there is no intrinsic reason for people to buy other than pure speculation.

I have not re-bought some MNE since the price is $2.71 way down from the $4.14 when I sold at. I actually do genuinely like the concept of creating my own concurrency and that is why I am buying into ART. There is actually some value attached to ART.

Are you completely delusional?  Do you think the drop in Minereum price might be related to the fact the entire market lost 35% of it's value in about 7 days?  Not sure why people blame small time alt coin value drops when it's really much much larger than that...
174  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] Artemine - First Self Mining Smart Contract 2.0 - ICO Starts Sep. 14 on: September 14, 2017, 02:18:06 PM
@Minereum / dev :

Here is a recap of the question we are interesting for.

1 - So just to clarify, if we want to have multiple genesis addresses, so we can sell one later on, we would need to contribute using multiple 'myetherwallet' addresses too ?

2 - If I sell a Genesis Address, do I keep my ETH-Address and the contract is converted to the buyers ETH-Wallet? Otherwise I canīt be sure that the seller burns the private key from that wallet.

3 - Since the self mining contract is tied to Ethereum mining blocks what then happens when Ethereum switch to POS ? will the self mining contract cease to work? according to many people ETH POS is to commence soon !

4 - Can explain with more details and some examples the ARTEMINE public mining ?

5 - I let the community to maintain the list and add the nexts questions :-).

Thanks for you reply.


This is a great list of questions regarding Artemine, dev PLEASE respond as these are all vital for investors to understand.
175  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] Artemine - First Self Mining Smart Contract 2.0 - ICO Starts Sep. 14 on: September 14, 2017, 02:16:58 PM
Nothing like a bullshit 60 billion dollar drop in the market to kick off this ICO, load up boys n girls! Sad
176  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] POPULOUS - Invoice trading platform | ICO l BOUNTY CAMPAIGN on: September 14, 2017, 02:11:25 AM
Wow the Populous hate train is rollin in!!! People are so impatient, give it longer than 3 months to do something geesh!
177  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] Artemine - First Self Mining Smart Contract 2.0 - ICO Starts Sep. 14 on: September 14, 2017, 12:01:42 AM
Hi Everyone,

The start of the ICO is only few hours away, we would like to provide few more details about it:

1. Start Time

As already announced, the ICO will start at 5 PM UTC (Today, September 14).

To be sure about the timing you can check the counter on our website on the top right corner: http://artemine.org/

2. Minimum Amounts allowed in the ICO

ETH: 0.1
MNE: 10

3. Transactions

For participants on the ICO all they will have to do is to send a simple ETH or MNE transaction to the ICO Address that we will post when the ICO is live.

4. Genesis Addresses Generation

All participants will have the address from where they sent the ETH or MNE converted into a ARTE Genesis Address (All addresses will be generated after the ICO).

-> DO NOT send coins to the ICO Address from exchanges like kraken, poloniex, etc.

For transparency, all the Genesis Addresses along with the attributed ARTE will be visible on this page:

http://genesis.artemine.org/

The page will be updated in real time.

Exciting, thanks for the info!
178  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] Artemine - First Self Mining Smart Contract 2.0 - ICO Starts Sep. 14 on: September 13, 2017, 09:26:44 PM
I am sorry guys but I sold all of my MNE. I tried to hold out for as long as I could but I am planning on buying some MNE once it is something like $3.2

I am confident that there is going to be a big dump of MNE on the ICO date since all of us are just speculators. We never have any intention of using MNE and we just have it because we want to sell it. The same goes with ART.

The current price of $4.14 will not hold as it will get event lowers.

I am not trying to spread FUD here, I am just saying what everyone is thinking. We all made a mistake, we should have sold when it was high and bought again when the price crashed. Lesson learned.

I tried to believe but 1 day before the ICO start the dev going quite just broke my heart. I so wanted to believe but I can't believe like this.

Man, I wish I had your 100% accurate crystal ball, I would be rich as hell! You're actually not saying what everyone is thinking, you're saying what YOU ARE THINKING.  The truth is, this project barely has legs it's so young and undeveloped.  You are not investing in what the project is now, you're not investing to create your own token on minereum.  You invest for what you think the project will become and you invest in the possibilities, this is crypto it's all a risk but for some reason I really think Minereum and Artemine are well worth the risk. 

I think the ICO being under the radar is quite appropriate for this project, what would the developer be hyping so much?  He's still getting the project off the ground!  I think the ICO may be premature but I also think it's a great opportunity for anyone who sees value in the project.  If you don't see any value, then get out but for god's sakes don't say you're speaking for all of the investors, you just sound like an asshole.

He may not be speaking for everyone but he is speaking for a lot of us. Why do you think MNE is only listed on small exchanges? Because the marketing sucks. Dev could've easily asked for a bounty campaign, but he didn't. Don't you see, there needs to be intrinsic value to a coin, otherwise it's just a pump. Ask yourself why Minereum should be priced at +5$. Ask yourself why Art would be prices at +5$. If the answer is 'speculation', then we're looking at a high risk medium reward project. Now, what if they'd have a decent roadmap and a whitepaper that's longer than the average whitepapers' introduction section? What if we knew exactly who they're gonna be working with, what they wanna do for marketing, how they plan on launching the lottery, where they stand on the world app, ... we wouldn't just be randomly speculating about 'what could happen, we'd be speculating on the results of what going to happen. Do you see the difference? If you remember, the devs talked about lauching an advertising campaign for Artemine. They didn't, and that's why we're speculating about a very, very poorly written businessplan, not about a prototype product

Oh I see the difference quite easily, but this entire market is pure speculation my friend.  This is just more than most people want to do, so I say again, if you don't see the value then please just go it's very easy as no one is asking you to be an investor.  Time and time again I see these announcement threads turn into a shit all over the developer thread I just don't get it.

Look, I totally get what you're saying. I've been involved in this market for quite a long time and I've seen some shit take place. What I'm saying is, we're having a chance to invest in a project that could be in the 100 million cap range, but not if the devs are clearly not taking it seriously. They clearly think delivering a good product will be enough to create a succesful ICO, which is wrong. As a point of reference, please read the first 12 pages of this whitepaper http://electroneum.com/overview-white-paper.pdf
I'm not involved or invested in electroneum whatsoever, but I actually laughed out loud comparing this whitepaper to the Artemine whitepaper. How is it that only me and a handful of others are questioning whether or not the devs are actually gonna be losing our money? It's literally 1 hour and 10 minutes before the ICO-date, and pretty much nothing has changed since the first announcement of Artemine.

The whitepaper is a joke, not going to argue with that! The reason I invested so much money into MNE and ARTE is because the whitepaper was such dogshit that I had to post a series of questions with the dev on the MNE forum about a month ago.  Very very basic questions like why is self mining useful and other issues that should be clearly stated on the WP.  In response I received a very thorough explanation from the developer and the community and the WP was then updated the next day to reflect these questions.  This is very promising to me, this tells me the dev really does give a shit, he just desperately needs to hire some PR/marketing people.  I totally get why people want more details and answers as this is money we're putting up for something we don't quite get.  Sorry if I come across defensive I just don't want to see an avalanche of unjust criticism when it seems like the dev is just really overworked.  If I REALLY REALLY had to guess, I would say the dev understands the clock is ticking and this concept with be cloned with other projects and he wants to get out there FIRST.
179  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] Artemine - First Self Mining Smart Contract 2.0 - ICO Starts Sep. 14 on: September 13, 2017, 07:22:11 PM
I am sorry guys but I sold all of my MNE. I tried to hold out for as long as I could but I am planning on buying some MNE once it is something like $3.2

I am confident that there is going to be a big dump of MNE on the ICO date since all of us are just speculators. We never have any intention of using MNE and we just have it because we want to sell it. The same goes with ART.

The current price of $4.14 will not hold as it will get event lowers.

I am not trying to spread FUD here, I am just saying what everyone is thinking. We all made a mistake, we should have sold when it was high and bought again when the price crashed. Lesson learned.

I tried to believe but 1 day before the ICO start the dev going quite just broke my heart. I so wanted to believe but I can't believe like this.

Man, I wish I had your 100% accurate crystal ball, I would be rich as hell! You're actually not saying what everyone is thinking, you're saying what YOU ARE THINKING.  The truth is, this project barely has legs it's so young and undeveloped.  You are not investing in what the project is now, you're not investing to create your own token on minereum.  You invest for what you think the project will become and you invest in the possibilities, this is crypto it's all a risk but for some reason I really think Minereum and Artemine are well worth the risk. 

I think the ICO being under the radar is quite appropriate for this project, what would the developer be hyping so much?  He's still getting the project off the ground!  I think the ICO may be premature but I also think it's a great opportunity for anyone who sees value in the project.  If you don't see any value, then get out but for god's sakes don't say you're speaking for all of the investors, you just sound like an asshole.

He may not be speaking for everyone but he is speaking for a lot of us. Why do you think MNE is only listed on small exchanges? Because the marketing sucks. Dev could've easily asked for a bounty campaign, but he didn't. Don't you see, there needs to be intrinsic value to a coin, otherwise it's just a pump. Ask yourself why Minereum should be priced at +5$. Ask yourself why Art would be prices at +5$. If the answer is 'speculation', then we're looking at a high risk medium reward project. Now, what if they'd have a decent roadmap and a whitepaper that's longer than the average whitepapers' introduction section? What if we knew exactly who they're gonna be working with, what they wanna do for marketing, how they plan on launching the lottery, where they stand on the world app, ... we wouldn't just be randomly speculating about 'what could happen, we'd be speculating on the results of what going to happen. Do you see the difference? If you remember, the devs talked about lauching an advertising campaign for Artemine. They didn't, and that's why we're speculating about a very, very poorly written businessplan, not about a prototype product

Oh I see the difference quite easily, but this entire market is pure speculation my friend.  This is just more than most people want to do, so I say again, if you don't see the value then please just go it's very easy as no one is asking you to be an investor.  Time and time again I see these announcement threads turn into a shit all over the developer thread I just don't get it.
180  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] RIALTO.AI Cryptocurrency Arbitrage and Market Maker ★ OFFICIAL THREAD ★ on: September 13, 2017, 07:11:43 PM
Bitcoin DOWN, Eth DOWN, almost all of Bittrex markets DOWN.

Rialto up 40% on ED.

Woot woot  Cool Cool

And now we watch the value rise, thank you for the update dev and really looking forward to the next couple of years Smiley
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