I have given my suggestions earlier. They were to govern the forum in total from principles instead of maintaining outlaw trust moderation. If you don't install principles you'll be bound to get the spamming as here discussed, and a whole lot of nastiness more, which however may get you red trust points when discussed. The reason that I call your suggestion 'patchwork' is because I consider all suggestions that are not about installing grounding principles patchwork.

I agree. The forum actually deserves a very thorough update. Both in technical possibilities as in moderation structure. So many things could be so much better. The suggestions of hilariousetc are patchwork that is only to the advantage of arrived forum members (who are definately not always the true assets of this forum).

  Established bounty managers rarely do.

That is my hope too. Bounty work consists of hard work and high hopes only. 

I'm following with interest and attention whether this project is going to pay their bounty participants or whether working for Viabet was for them just a lost gamble itself.

Now were a months further! It appears that nobody is going to get paid for their bounty work. What a disgrace!

I think it is time to tell these, and all the other, participants what is going on with the bounty pay. It's fair, isn't it? They all worked for Nous and now the work is done Nous turns silent.

Don't just watch. Participate! What's the use of only watching ascending lines? 

  During the ICO I had a shortage of ETH, so I spent it all on ICX. Didn't get the amount I wanted. Then I went to refill my Ether wallet. When I returned for more ICX the ICO was sold out. 

The bounty won't be very active for long anymore. I was late too.

You still wear their signature. Then you're a true believer of the purest kind. 

Thank you. You may get up now.  

The very fact that Theymos opens this thread to hear ideas about how to influence what visitors say means that he does not want to let everyone totally free in their linguistic expression. I support restriction of expression. But I suggest that it must be based upon clear principles and visions, which seem to be lacking.

You summerize it well. Thank you. Stopping with tagging presupposed scammers because the forum rules don't say it's wrong is exactly what I am suggesting. I am suggesting that punishment must be rooted in clear principles and not in the subjective whims of a couple of moderators who also abuse the trust system for their own agenda. Don't you see? In the current situation we have punishment without rules. Either you install clear forum rules and punish objectively according to these rules or you install everyone with the power to punish so innocent victims of guilty moderators can defend themselves against them. Or you simply take away that power from everyone. If you leave the situation as it is you do not run the forum from principles, unless some kind of oligarchy (power to a few, subjectively utilized by a few) is the principle on which you want to base your forum structure. We have an animal farm here where all members are equal but some members are more equal. Of course the more equal ones want to keep it like that, and they're lurking for even more difference.

People care not about principles and thorough solutions. They want stopgap solutions. This thread proves it. Theymos must simply decide about his political utopia and construct the forum accordingly. Hilariousetc opts for some kind of oligarchic system where the rich get it all and the poor get nothing. Is that Theymos's ideal? Fine. He apparently doesn't like full freedom of speech. Fine. It's his forum. But it is not built upon principles. Just an example: Theymos allows multiple accounts but at the same time he allows it that some trust moderators punish users with multiple accounts. That's not coherent policy. I know. Nobody cares about a principle post like this. They will just turn to their stopgap remedies again. Probably Theymos included. However I say that this forum needs a thorough reconstruction.

1. We already found our billionaire token in Icon's ICX.
2. Nothing's for free here, not even Telegram participation.
3. Your commercial invitation is offtopic and therefore inappropriate.

Moderators do the same what you did among themselves. That's how they received so many green trust points. They just don't like it when others outside of their little green circle make progress also on this forum. Then they tag you with red trust for any silly reason they can come up with. That's how they stay in power. It is best to keep a very low profile towards certain moderators. Just for your information about how things work around here.

There's only one really on my list. And he's not far away.


Other forums are usually differently moderated. Namely objectively along principles and rules. Here hidden agenda's and subjective likings of moderators are decisive.

Carefull with expressing such things. Some grumpy moderator may tag you with red trust points for 'trust farming'.

I understand. I can imagine that the rise of price has to do with Charles Hoskinson and Bittrex being on board. Plus the reason why I bought a few; their positioning at coinmarketcap and the fear of missing out.

That's funny. With the above post I got promoted to Member ranking. So I have just adjusted my signature. 

I was wondering about Cardano (ADA). I didn't know the project untill it appeared on coinmarketcap. Where Icon is often called the Korean Neo or Ethereum Cardano is called the Japanese Ethereum. How do these two projects compare? Any opinions about this? I was lucky to buy a few ICX's during the ICO, but I recently invested a bit in ADA also.