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161  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: 300 BTC Coding Contest: Distributed Exchange (MasterCoin Developer Thread) on: December 01, 2013, 03:37:03 AM
Forbes covers Mastercoin Decentralized Exchange. This is all thanks to you guys : )
 
http://www.forbes.com/sites/jasperhamill/2013/11/30/fed-up-with-bitcoin-heres-how-to-start-your-own-currency/?utm_campaign=techtwittersf&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social

And well done Michael Terpin, you are the man. Best Media Lead in Bitcoin. He knows his stuff. Great article.

Well done!
162  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: MasterCoin: New Protocol Layer Starting From “The Exodus Address” on: December 01, 2013, 12:44:36 AM
Coloredcoins are better? We get that. You've mentioned it repeatedly while criticizing this project. But somehow you are very interested in Mastercoin!

Colored coins and Mastercoin have somewhat different niche. They are different things, one isn't better than another. As I mentioned, colored coins simply cannot do escrow-backed currencies, and escrow-backed currencies were the original selling point of Mastercoin, IIRC.

I see you're very protective because you invested in Mastercoin, but I'm just providing an objective comparison.

Trust me, I still work on colored coins, posting to Mastercoin thread once in a while takes very little of my time.

And, FYI, J. R. Willett was an active member of colored coin mailing list before he made his final spec.

E.g. https://groups.google.com/d/msg/bitcoinx/9_YJ_3qi41c/PWEp1WI4E10J

I don't think ad hominem attacks earn you anything, If you disagree with me, attack my arguments, not me.

You said it's a "very shitty situation" and you don't even know the real situation? And then accuse me of ad hominem attacks? Sorry, but I'm having a hard time believing you are an 'objective' observer when you make misguided statements such as that and create threads titled "Mastercoin is a Joke."

Finally, you engaged in an ad hominem attack of your own at the very same time as advising me against it. Go on, read your post again. You'll find it there.
163  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: MasterCoin: New Protocol Layer Starting From “The Exodus Address” on: December 01, 2013, 12:08:26 AM
Now MSC project is like a startup with the founder holding the majority non-diluted (and increasing) shares and then stepping down as a pure investor just after the company founded. There's nothing unfair here, but this kind of companies seldom succeed.

But it isn't a startup, it is a currency, so it's much worse. J.R. could dump his stash to crash the price of MSC, which would result in cascading crash of all escrow-backed currencies.

Of course, J.R. isn't that dumb, but what if his private key is stolen? There is $20+M price tag on it now, it is sufficient to warrant highly targeted cyber attack or even physical attack.

It's a shitty situation.

The key feature of Mastercoin is in uses which depend on Mastercoin price, such as CFDs and escrow-backed currencies. Owner of a large stash of mastercoins can significantly affect the price, so it is absolutely crucial to secure these stashes.

(I don't think that distributed exchange is the key feature: colored coins are better at that, as colored coins-based exchange is faster and works with thin clients. But colored coins can't do what I mentioned above, at least, not now Smiley )

It appears you are more interested in criticizing this project and spreading FUD than working on your own.

J.R. dumping his MSC? It would become worthless.

Satoshi could do the same. The founders of any company can do the same. They usually don't since it's not in their own best interests for their investment to become worthless.

I guess you haven't been paying attention, but J.R. has divided his coins amongst several private keys, which are stored in safety deposit boxes. He announced this recently.

Coloredcoins are better? We get that. You've mentioned it repeatedly while criticizing this project. But somehow you are very interested in Mastercoin!  
164  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: MasterCoin: New Protocol Layer Starting From “The Exodus Address” on: November 30, 2013, 07:51:09 AM
Please add the Bitcoin Magazine article on Mastercoin to the press section of mastercoin.org

http://bitcoinmagazine.com/7961/

this is a very good article that should be on the website!!
165  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: MasterCoin: New Protocol Layer Starting From “The Exodus Address” on: November 30, 2013, 07:28:24 AM
Great posts - Vokain and Taariq.

 Smiley
166  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: MasterCoin: New Protocol Layer Starting From “The Exodus Address” on: November 30, 2013, 01:57:48 AM
Guys, here’s my pie in the sky proposal. I wanted to throw it out there as a starting point in how to get this project back on the tracks and moving forward. I invested time into this proposal, as well as discussing it with my business partner, so I would highly appreciate if someone from the board would take 10 minutes and speak to me directly about it, even if the answer is a "no".
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I think we can pretty much all agree that the 900lb problem with things at the current point is that there is no dedicated dev team, and there is a lack of process control/procedure. The current devs we have have done a great job getting us to this point, but they are only working part time (due to their perfectly understandable need to sustain themselves and pay their bills). We sorely need a dedicated team that can work on the core part of Mastercoin, and serve as a lynchpin over which the community ecosystem can form.

Our background

I happen to be an entrepreneur that runs a 15-20 person company (exact size fluctuates and it’s been rapidly growing lately) that both provides services and software for medium to large enterprises. My company has a demonstrable and proven history -- which I can disclose at the proper time, if this gains interest -- in developing software products for numerous Fortune 100 companies and the government, and managed services that we sell for 400-600K per year per client, with very high quality and up-time requirements, and very stringent process control (we play with the big boys). We have a dedicated dev team of 3 developers, and around 10 other engineers. We are entirely self-funded and profitable, with no debt.

I have over 18 years of professional software development experience, and have experience building and running numerous development teams (both on-site and distributed). I have written and sold software and IP that is in use by companies like Samsung, Nestle Waters, US FAA, US DOD, Cisco, etc. (the latter being an actual Cisco product that I developed for them). My business partner, with whom I have worked with for over 14 years in a variety of capacities, is a Cisco CCIE with experience as a CTO for a 1000+ person company, as well as at a number of startups. We have been watching and have both formed quite an interest in virtual currencies.

The proposal

In the interests of taking action and keeping Mastercoin at the forefront, I’m going to put forward a somewhat aggressive proposal here to the community and the board. For the right incentive (which I will get into), we will do the following:

  • Hire and incubate a small dev team. Probably start with one team of 2-5, then grow. I have a highly qualified dev I could assign over full-time from my ranks immediately (as well as another one I could enlist as-needed). I am also in touch with a highly talented bitcoin developer in the community that is interested, plus we could utilize the existing mastercoin developers if they are interested (Tachikoma, zathras, etc). My company has a talented in-house recruiter as well if we need to bring in other folks. The goal is NOT to take over mastercoin development, or shut out the current developers, but to give Mastercoin that dedicated "core-team-in-a-box" it needs at least at this time, to allow it to move forward. Like I said, existing developers are welcome to join, if full-time makes sense for them.
  • Dev team would utilize scrum (e.g. sprint.ly and github). I could serve as the team lead if the board and community desired. We could fold the PM that Ron is bringing on into this team, or if necessary assign one of our own existing PMs over to it.
  • We take my masterdaemon I'm working on, convert zathras or tachikoma's code to python and strap it in (or use the integration with zathras’ library itself that’s already built-in), and make that the reference client. It would work just like bitcoind for bitcoin -- docs in development are at http://masterdaemon.readthedocs.org/en/latest/index.html, code is on github).  Existing library development would continue as-is, but I believe the team needs a reference library/client to focus on at least for now, to avoid duplication of efforts (do not confuse this with me trying to pick favorites among the developers - the choice would be purely what makes the most technical and time sense)
  • The team will focus on this client/library and other core tools first, and whatever else makes sense second.
  • We would institute coding standards and QA standards, have 2-4 week dev cycles, burndown chart, community feedback procedures/policy to get and order items on the task backlog, etc.
  • We would also implement the recommendations killerstorm made (in our client and working in conjunction with the other devs). I noticed the same problems he did and they are good recommendations.
  • It would take probably around 3-4 weeks to get this in place if doing it full-time. I have a lot of it already done for our existing dev team.
  • A separate LLC would probably be formed to do this. Team salaries could be paid for from the existing Mastercoin fund, or we may even pay our own internal guys ourselves for this initial period, if the incentive was generous enough.
  • Our team would work off of the task list ordered by the community and the Mastercoin foundation members, in a democratic process. Beyond this, we would have final say over the running of our own team (as well as the people chosen). This is non-negotiable -- we need latitude to best run our team without a heap of politics -- let the performance speak for itself. However, what we work on is largely dictated by the community and board, and the Mastercoin foundation would of course be free to form a second dev team to work on complementary efforts, as they see fit. Our teams would coordinate via the PMs.

We actually specialize in getting into really messed up multi-million dollar projects/situations and getting a handle on them. I can point to several examples, with large hospital chains, commercial banks, etc. I have made all of these recommendations earlier, but it fell on deaf ears. I am bringing this up again now because I look at where this project is at, and straightening things out is something that could easily be handled with the right approach. We should have a bitcoin expert on the team, but beyond that, we can utilize developers with more commodity skillsets, since they will be building on standard interfaces such as JSON-RPC and SQL. We deal with this stuff every day, day in and day out.

What do we get out of it?

As part of doing this, we would commit to at least 6 months to 1 year of working on Mastercoin, and, upon the condition of this period being fulfilled, as well as multiple established milestones set by the community being reached during that period, our group would be entitled to some amount of MSC (and possibly BTC) from the dev MSC fund and/or JR as a reward. Depending on where things are at after this period, we can continue to move things along for much more modest pay, or collect our check and transition out of it -into the Mastercoin's foundations own dev teams and/or the community development community (which will be much more mature by that time, no doubt).

If there are any 3rd party devs on our team, a similar deal could be set up with them.

According to this link: http://mastercoin-explorer.com/addresses/15WrQhYhHts7jTMoGJ9rDCD12JuCTKy7MM

JR received around 53,000 mastercoins as a bonus alone (which, in itself is controversial to some members of the community – given he controlled the wallet he sent the funds to and thus had an arguably lower risk). Moreover, the Mastercoin dev fund will have 50-something thousand vesting on top of that. There is both ample Mastercoin and bitcoin here to carry this out and ensure that that Mastercoin retains and grows value in the long run. JR will still have way too many mastercoins (Wink) and the community gets a solid effort with a good chance of success.

As entrepreneurs, we are motivated by upside. This is risky, and I am potentially putting the health of my company up for grabs because I so believe in this idea. Thus, I want a large upside.


Benefits

The benefit from the community is clear:

  • A dedicated dev team backed by individuals with proven experience is immediately formed
  • The team quickly moves forward on keeping Mastercoin’s first-mover advantage
  • If the team does not perform, it does not get paid
  • The risk to the community is quite low (definitely much lower than the alternative of doing nothing)
  • The community retains say over the order of features implemented, and the general development direction of Mastercoin

At the right time (i.e. if the board is interested in this proposal), I would be open to naming my company, and allowing the community to look us up.

-Robby


Agreed, this is something that should be considered. The board should engage you and do some further due diligence on your background and qualifications. 

Cheers
167  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: MasterCoin Buyer/Seller Thread on: November 30, 2013, 01:47:42 AM
Please add my sell order of 50 MSC @ .17.

Thank you.
168  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: MasterCoin Buyer/Seller Thread on: November 29, 2013, 10:57:59 PM
The guy from Colorcoins is jealous and makes silly threads and we are supposed to worry about that? No. He's just jealous of the millions MSC has in funding. That funding is what gives this project a great chance of success. The money is attracting and will attract top developers. Any bugs are just a natural part of the development process and are being worked on as we speak.

Also, this is not a topic for this thread. So mods, please remove this discussion from here, including my post.  
169  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: MasterCoin: New Protocol Layer Starting From “The Exodus Address” on: November 29, 2013, 10:47:34 PM
"Mastercoin is a joke": http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1rpx26/mastercoin_is_a_joke/

Would someone knowledgeable please care to limit damage?

Isn't the thread starter the same guy that is developing colored coins, the competitor? LOL

I suppose we should create a thread "Colorcoins is a joke" but we are better than that.

People are simply jealous of the funding and/or implied market cap of Mastercoin. Otherwise, why pay attention to us?

Having said that, I think it is abundantly clear that we need to get our leadership in order. We cannot lose developers like Tachikoma. He's been doing a fantastic job.

We have the funds. Now we need to execute on the promise. The board needs to be decisive and make decisions for the good of the project and all Mastercoin holders/investors. I am confident that they will do so.

First order of business is to hire someone to manage the technical side of the project.

 Smiley
170  Bitcoin / Armory / Re: Slow scanning of transaction history and repeated crashes on: November 29, 2013, 10:07:50 AM
Please submit your log files to support@bitcoinarmory.com, as well as your machine specs, OS, and Armory version.

thanks. is it save to submit private log files?

I'm using windows 8 and newish i7 intel core, 1.9GHz, 6GB memory ultrabook
171  Bitcoin / Armory / Slow scanning of transaction history and repeated crashes on: November 29, 2013, 09:49:51 AM
Hi,

I just started using Armory and love the features, but I am having 2 problems:

1) Loading the client. It takes a very long time and sometimes it does not complete the scanning transaction at all. I have to close and try again.

2) Occasionally I get a crash message saying armory.exe isn't working properly and windows will close the client.

Any solutions? Thanks!
172  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: MasterCoin Buyer/Seller Thread on: November 28, 2013, 08:26:52 PM
Please add my sell order 100 MSC @ 0.20.

Thank you.
173  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: MasterCoin: New Protocol Layer Starting From “The Exodus Address” on: November 28, 2013, 08:08:44 AM
The next 6 months are critical. I believe a project manager is needed, someone with technical knowledge and management skills, who can hire and motivate the right people. A lot is at stake and the existing resources should be deployed intelligently and narrowly (i.e., not to fund every idea, but to use the bulk on the fundamentals) to hire the very best people to lead this project. Success at an early stage will create valuable dev MSCs that can fund the project for years going forward. The board needs to take decisive action to get the right people working on this project full time. 
174  Economy / Speculation / Re: Taking a loan to buy bitcoin on: November 28, 2013, 07:59:16 AM
Title of thread = sell signal
175  Economy / Speculation / Re: Does anyone think the price is unsustainable? Only bears please and seriousness. on: November 27, 2013, 05:59:05 AM
Sell a little whenever large numbers of posters in this forum are screaming "to the moon" and other ridiculous slogans after BTC rises 500% in a few weeks.

Buy a lot when it crashes and everyone is declaring BTC a terrible investment.

176  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: 300 BTC Coding Contest: Distributed Exchange (MasterCoin Developer Thread) on: November 25, 2013, 06:04:09 AM
Is anyone else seeing an inaccurate number of Test MSCs on addresses on Mastercoin Explorer?

177  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: MasterCoin: New Protocol Layer Starting From “The Exodus Address” on: November 25, 2013, 05:53:02 AM

How about posting some of the jobs/bounties on some of the websites in this link?

http://bitcoinexaminer.org/looking-to-work-and-get-paid-in-bitcoin-here-are-six-websites-that-can-help-you/

I noticed several jobs developing for Ripple Labs, Inc. and Coinbase at Coinality:

http://coinality.com/

https://coinality.com/jobs/


Can you help us by doing this yourself?

I will email our PR company directly and ask them whether they can help advertising our specific jobs / bounties and not just the project in general.

I will look into it and report back here.
178  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: MasterCoin: New Protocol Layer Starting From “The Exodus Address” on: November 25, 2013, 02:06:43 AM
^ you need to open the program via "Command Prompt," navigate to the correct directory and then run the program by typing "MastercoinAdvisor.exe." I hope that helps.
179  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: MasterCoin: New Protocol Layer Starting From “The Exodus Address” on: November 23, 2013, 07:11:43 AM
In a perfect world, I would happily devote more time to Mastercoin, I've lived and breathed it pretty much whenever I'm not working my day job & am of course 100% behind it - there is however an issue I haven't seen discussed which for me at least is significant.

There are real-world financial burdens (mortgage, bills etc) that have to be paid.  My full time earnings are in fiat - and that's a critical factor.  Cryptocurrencies are still a very new and volatile way of transferring monetary value (for example I had a fairly substantial bitcoin transaction earlier this week that was worth significantly less to the recipient in the time it took to confirm it in 6 blocks).  Consider if you will, being paid in bitcoin & mastercoin only for the next {x months/years}.  The ups and downs of these values will determine the amount of fiat you would have that month to pay the bills.  It could be fantastic and you become very wealthy.  It could also end in tears if a crash in value restricts your ability to pay said bills.  My number one priority over anything else will always be providing for my family (and stably).  

The foundation I'm sure would look at adjusting payments along with market values but just as volatility affects conversion to fiat, so does it affect the resources of the foundation.  A crash in bitcoin value is also a crash in foundation resources.  For the sake of debate, what happens if bitcoin for example crashes to $50?  How would the foundation cover it's payments to its hires?  I think that's an unlikely scenario, but unlikely enough to put 100% of your income on is the question.  My apologies if this comes across as negativity that's not my intention at all - I'm simply considering (out loud) the potential risks.

Mastercoin is a project I thoroughly support and believe is going to be something that really starts to attract 'big money' (corporate) to cryptocurrencies.  I currently spend as much time developing as I can, but I have a full time job which takes up the lion's share of my time.  I still do endeavor to be responsive to any issues with any of my Masterchest software.

As they say 'never close a door' & I'm not ruling anything out, but as nice (I'm guilty too) as it is to get swept up in the incredible growth in just our first few short months when it comes to things like employment and where your income comes from (and how reliable that income is) a longer term perspective is needed.

Thanks Smiley

Note, I'd be happy to read any info anyone can provide on a precedent for full-time work paid in cryptocurrencies.

EDIT: for clarity

The Mastercoin Foundation has 4,500 BTC. At the current market rate that's almost $4 million dollars. The Foundation could sell some BTCs and pay guaranteed, decent (but not outrageous) salaries in fiat currency on long term contracts for select lead developers. As a bonus, MSCs could be rewarded according to amount of time employed or milestones achieved for potential massive upside and motivation of the developers.
180  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Proposal for Standardizing the Distribution Rate of Dev MSC via the MSC Protocol on: November 23, 2013, 06:38:12 AM
I think perhaps it is time to convert more of our BTC to MSC. I'd rather have MSC in a rainy day fund than BTC anyway. As you say, giving away BTC attacts people more interested in BTC, and I'd rather the foundation hold MSC than BTC.

Here's my crazy proposal:

1) Keep only the 1000 BTC we've already moved into offline wallets
2) Use the remainder of our BTC to purchase MSC over the next few months on the distributed exchange
3) Pay all future bounties exclusively in MSC
4) Keep half of our MSC money for a rainy day and/or future distributed bounty system
5) If our rainy day fund becomes excessive, we can always vote to lower the ratio later

I realize that this would potentially make all of our existing investors absurdly wealthy, but, well, the stated purpose of the Mastercoin Foundation is to serve the holders of Mastercoins, and I'm having a hard time seeing this course of action as anything but a huge positive for them, as long as we do it transparently and over a long enough period of time that nobody who wants to sell to us is left out.

Also, MSC prices would probably go up to the point where I'd sell 1% and quit my job to work on MSC, which I hope would also be in the best interests of our investors. Smiley

This is an interesting idea, and I applaud J.R. for his transparency and for sharing his ideas with all interested parties. I do, however, have some concerns:

1.) If it is perceived that the Mastercoin Foundation is artificially inflating the value of MSC it may discourage people from investing and thus have the opposite effect. This is the danger of unintended consequences: i.e., that people will perceive the price of MSCs as artificial and not reliable.  I think it would depend on how the MSCs were purchase by the Mastercoin Foundation - a small amount over a long period may mitigate this perception. (Keep in mind also: companies buy back stock in limited quantities when they perceive that it is undervalued.)

Similarly, people are attracted to MSC because of its development funds -- it is well funded in an established currency, BTC. If you take that away, MSC may be a less attractive investment for some.   

2) The Mastercoin Foundation already has (or will have) a massive amount of MSCs vesting over the next few years. Selling the majority of BTCs for MSCs makes absolutely no sense from a risk management standpoint. The Mastercoin Foundation has massive exposure to MSCs already.

3) If anything, the Mastercoin Foundation should be taking measures to control for the volatility of BTCs by, for example, proposing bounties such as BTCs or MSCs worth at least $50,000 USD. Or by announcing hybrid bounties: part USD/BTC/MSCs. Or by some other means. Whatever it is it should mitigate the risk of over or underpayment to the developers for work done.
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