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161  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN - Launch Tomorrow][SOC] SocialCoin - Mine & Give Back to Society! on: January 13, 2014, 04:27:30 PM
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162  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] WorldWideCoin(WWC):One Innovative Crypto-Currency, beyond POW/POS on: January 13, 2014, 04:23:09 PM
Good luck.
163  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [PSA] MemoryCoin 2.0 compromised by Dev's pre-mine holdings! on: January 13, 2014, 12:40:49 PM
+1 for FreeTrade

It's really a no brainer to vote for the dev to remain as CEO. If the coin is stagnating 6 months to a year from now, and FreeTrade is nowhere to be found, then yah it's time to look for a new CEO.

+160,000 for FreeTrade

FTFY

164  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [PSA] MemoryCoin 2.0 compromised by Dev's pre-mine holdings! on: January 13, 2014, 01:15:35 AM
Here is FreeTrade's hilarious* answers to questions surrounding him, Memorycoin 1 & 2.0 and the pre-mine
https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=2288.0


Noteworthy:

He gave himself 160,000 MMC. It would have taken a single miner 571 full blocks of 280 coins each to amass the same amount. Anyone want to bust out the probability of that happening?

47,000 coins went to the MCF which FreeTrade controls and used to his vote advantage until he mistakenly realized it.

He notes his pre-mine stake is 1.6%. This is in relation to the entire coins future float.
This is 6.2% of the current float.
This is 20% of the float at block 2.
This all of course is not including the 47,000 coins for MCF which Mr. FreeTrade controls.

You tell me if this comprimised the vote from day 1.


FreeTrade held 2 positions since 2 days into the coins life and voluntarily stepped out of the CTO position after gaining 15,000 coins from that position and has currently raked in 29,000 coins and counting for the CEO position.

It is safe to say FreeTrade has close to 250,000 coins, or 10% of the current float.

Yes I am sure he has earned some of these coins.

Has he earned immunity from the election process?

He also states his 160k is worth only $50k. I am pretty sure this wasn't the case a few weeks ago.

About Bter and the exchange removal; his claim of a trading halt is an attempt to disguise his contempt and killing memorycoin 1 for a noble purpose. This is in the quotes and links in this thread for further examination.



It's all here in this thread, you guys decide.

*opposite of hilarious



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FreeTrade Interview
« on: January 12, 2014, 07:21:19 PM »
So 60 Minutes is investigating FreeTrade and the pre-mine scandal - I've got a transcript of the interview with Katie Couric -

Katie: How much MemoryCoin did you pre-mine?
FreeTrade: *laughs* So that's a tough question to start with. I'll answer it, but why don't we come back to it after there's some background?

Katie: Okay. Did you crash MemoryCoin 1?
FreeTrade: That's better. *more laughs*  No. I mean it was in a pretty bad state technically. I wanted to make repairs and the whole idea is that coin can pay for that out of grants or salaries, but the shareholders voted to give those funds to themselves. I guess you could say I lost confidence in the shareholders. They were angry that I didn't continue developing for free and called me a lot of names. All of them not nice names.

Katie: But you told Bter to de-list MemoryCoin?
FreeTrade: No. There's something called a trading halt - that's when something big is about to happen to a stock and trading is stopped to allow people to absorb the news. I told them they should probably suspend trading for a while because there was big news. But I don't get to tell exchanges what to list and de-list. Believe me, I've tried!

Katie: Did you sell any MemoryCoin before that happened?
FreeTrade: Actually I was a buyer of MemoryCoin.

Katie: Why resurrect it now?
I was tired and I took a long holiday and when I got back I saw ProtoShares had very similar parameters to what I was doing with MemoryCoin so I got involved with getting that started. But MemoryCoin was still tugging at me though and a lot of the shareholders I really liked and felt a real responsibility towards, because, you know, some were still voting for me right till the end and asking me to come back and fix the coin.

Katie: So you put them the pre-mine?
Well I had a lot of coins too, but the problem I was trying to solve was how do we keep voting  but stop the short-sighted shareholders from taking the salaries and firing the devs?
And the solution I came up with was to fork all the balances from the old coin, but dilute anyone who wasn't voting, or just voting to share the grants out amongst the winning voters. So the fork rewarded people who were really engaged and trying to make the project work, but still kept balances for everyone.

Katie: What was your stake in the original coin that was forked into the new coin?
I had a 1.6% stake, so I got about 160,000 coins. At the current price, that's under $50,000. Some people will say that is excessive but I've worked very hard at it and that's not really very much for the skills I have and there's a lot of risk of ending up with nothing at all.
I also control something called the Memory Coin Foundation which gives out tips and grants and that got 47,000 coins.  From the earliest days I've explained those are not mine and I'm continuing to give those away to people helping the project.

Katie: With that voting control, didn't you stack the deck?
You hear about these countries where they hold elections and everybody votes for some guy who wants to chop off the heads of all their opponents - they're not ready for it yet. I think the MemoryCoin is a bit like that. There's a process of democratization going on where the pre-mine has less and less of an influence because there are more and more coins out there.   I think we've fended off the big challenge of a minority of voters trying to steal the salaries again, so I'm trying to step further back. If there's another attempt to use the voting system to destroy the coin, I'll step back in if I can, but I won't be using massive voting power to select between two good CTO candidates, or two good CEO candidates for that matter.

Katie: About democratization - can it ever be democratic if big shareholders can easily outvote small shareholders?
That's a pretty standard way to do things for all corporations. If you were going to have a crypto-government you'd probably want to do things differently, but MemoryCoin is more like a corporation and I think that is the best model for weighting votes.

Katie: You said they were trying to destroy the coin. I'm guessing you mean Newmine's plan to distribute funds directly to those who voted for him. Why do you think that would be so bad?
Well my theory is that it is possible to create a positive feedback cycle. I mean improving the coin, you know, through development and promotion should lead to a higher price. That higher price should lead to more funds for development and promotion, which should lead to a higher price. I think its possible to create really huge value if we can create that cycle. But the Newmine plan interrupts the cycle because it stops creating value. That's why it is so detrimental.

Katie: Are you going to try to destroy the coin if they vote you out again?
Of course not, I don't know why people are putting that about. I'd have no incentive to do that, quite the opposite, I'd probably stay and develop even if I wasn't getting one of the salaries. Also, the whole idea of a crypto-currency is that it can't be destroyed like that. Every coin starts out centralized around the original developer, and becomes de-centralized over time. I think we're getting there a lot faster than other coins - even if I was hit by a bus tomorrow, I think the coin would survive because there are other great devs working on it now and being paid to do so.

Katie: FreeTrade, thank you very much.
FreeTrade: My pleasure.
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165  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [eMunie] Latest update, lots of new features and improvements. on: January 11, 2014, 06:02:33 PM
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166  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ NEW COIN ON THE BLOCK ] *Livecoin ( LVC ) * - SCRYPT - POW - 150s BLOCK TIME on: January 09, 2014, 11:16:50 PM
So whats everyone think so far?

Cant connect. no block source. Added the conf and peer an hour ago.
added nodes manually and no connection. addnode (#) add, and nothing.


Alright try this for me please. Unless!! you have coins in wallet... If you have coins in wallet, COPY your appdata/roaming/livecoin/wallet.dat folder and place somewhere safe on desktop. As well use the wallet.dat backup feature in the wallet.

Then, uninstall Livecoin,
restart PC ( unless you have CCcleaner ( than run that once both norm n reg ) )
Download conf file here --> https://mega.co.nz/#!K4BQhBaI!bjKKrD-S1BPqQxu3Zri0WTcfL8U16uUJzcBgLFVxohA
Run livecoin setup
Run livecoin-qt
Close livecoin-qt
Place .conf in appdata/roaming/livecoin/
Place that wallet.dat if you had one  beforehand ( pending you had coins before the start of this ) in same folder as  the .conf file above
Run livecoin-qt again an wait.

Post results.

Thank you


Your link does not work! I'll try the op link again.
167  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ NEW COIN ON THE BLOCK ] *Livecoin ( LVC ) * - SCRYPT - POW - 150s BLOCK TIME on: January 09, 2014, 05:45:36 PM
So whats everyone think so far?

Cant connect. no block source. Added the conf and peer an hour ago.
added nodes manually and no connection. addnode (#) add, and nothing.
168  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ NEW COIN ON THE BLOCK ] *Livecoin ( LVC ) * - SCRYPT - POW - 150s BLOCK TIME on: January 09, 2014, 05:31:03 PM
So whats everyone think so far?

Cant connect. no block source. Added the conf and peer an hour ago.
169  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [PSA] MemoryCoin 2.0 compromised by Dev's pre-mine holdings! on: January 08, 2014, 08:01:31 PM
Developer FreeTrade has granted himself large amounts of MMC through a pre-mine. These awards, upwards of 80k coins each per award from block 1 were disguised as part of MemoryCoin 1's contributions.

If one person controls that many coin from day 1, the voting aspect of the coin is compromised and this voting aspect is the one thing that was to distinguish this coin from other alts. Especially since the coin failed to remain GPU resistant.
 
With that said, I am no longer running for positions with this coin. please change you vote for another candidate.

Good luck all. I advise you to be careful here.

See this thread and these other threads for more info:

https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=2124.msg24636#msg24636

https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=2047.0

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=267522.msg3143884#msg3143884

https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=2125.0

Read for yourself, especially FreeTrades responses.

Do you due diligence!
Last update regarding this for now. I will check back in a few months. See how the coin is doing. Good luck, although you might have better luck with Coinye, COYE! Cheesy
170  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [ANN] MemoryCoin 2.0, Help "Free" the coin! on: January 07, 2014, 09:58:10 PM
Maybe we need to open a CHA position for Newmine dinners ?  Cheesy

Donations gladly accepted here:   MMCPooL6JBsRw4t22wCZ4TTgawYCcA1x15


Two donations are sending.



Regards

Thanks buddy!
171  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [ANN] MemoryCoin 2.0, Help "Free" the coin! on: January 07, 2014, 09:27:00 PM
Maybe we need to open a CHA position for Newmine dinners ?  Cheesy

Donations gladly accepted here:   MMCPooL6JBsRw4t22wCZ4TTgawYCcA1x15
172  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [ANN] MemoryCoin 2.0, Help "Free" the coin! on: January 07, 2014, 09:25:31 PM
We paid FaSaN 20% when we won the 2 elections. 


Hey, I wait my 20% of blocks 5640, 5660, 5680 ! Or you already boring to be our favorite RobinHood ?  Cheesy

Eh..  Roll Eyes


Whaaaat?

1st of all, I am at my regular work job. Ill payout when I get off work.
2nd, reward matures for 120 blocks.
3rd, who said you were guaranteed any cut? Trolling me instead of doing your job means you might not get paid. Please submit an itemized invoice of all work done during those blocks. Wink

Nice try!


Uhmm... and you ? What WORK have you doing for the MMC community during this three blocks ?

Take it, I don't need this money. You can pay the bill of your dinner for today. I was sure that you had do all this for your pocket :-)


Best Regards Newmine




FaSan
Tell me where I said I would be working for the coin. I only ever said I would distribute the coin. You will get your cut this time.

No need to try and insult me. Your translation only makes you sound foolish.

Thanks for your support,
Newmine
173  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [ANN] MemoryCoin 2.0, Help "Free" the coin! on: January 07, 2014, 08:56:21 PM
We paid FaSaN 20% when we won the 2 elections. 


Hey, I wait my 20% of blocks 5640, 5660, 5680 ! Or you already boring to be our favorite RobinHood ?  Cheesy

Eh..  Roll Eyes


Whaaaat?

1st of all, I am at my regular work job. Ill payout when I get off work.
2nd, reward matures for 120 blocks.
3rd, who said you were guaranteed any cut? Trolling me instead of doing your job means you might not get paid. Please submit an itemized invoice of all work done during those blocks. Wink

Nice try!
174  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [ANN] MemoryCoin 2.0, Help "Free" the coin! on: January 07, 2014, 06:00:04 PM
you got my humble vote with 230~mmc

Thanks!
175  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [ANN] MemoryCoin 2.0, Help "Free" the coin! on: January 07, 2014, 04:25:47 PM
I am very disappointed with the performance of MMC2

You're not going to see the growth you want until this mutiny attempt by Newmine ends.

Elections are inherently designed to have winners and losers. If me winning is a mutiny, then I would assume you are one of the losers.

Mutiny on the Memory. I like it.  Shocked

If in a year, hell, 3 months from now you unlikely change your mind and say to yourself, "damn, FreeTrade and or any of the other offices aren't really doing anything to benefit MMC anymore, they are over at RAM coin spending all their time there!" Do you think you will be able to unseat him or any of the other officers once they are in the position for that long?
176  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [ANN] MemoryCoin 2.0, Help "Free" the coin! on: January 07, 2014, 04:13:59 PM
looking forward to your application!
and I hope newmine gives you some time to dive in before he sets up an address for that office too (wonder why it doesn't have one yet, all the talking about wanting to redistribute because officers earn too much, and the officer doing the least work isn't threatened by this, but gets outvoted the conventional way...this idea still seems not really thought through like I said right in the beginning. but of course, no, no one here is motivated by greed :> )

It's been there a few days. Wink

Maybe we will support him.

Post your application and road map here. Everyone!

We paid FaSaN 20% when we won the 2 elections. 

FreeTrade has raked in near 22,000 just coins for holding CEO position. What had he done to earn this?
He forked the coin and updated the client and I am sure some other technical stuff, but I'll remind you held the Chief Technology officer position too. He took 15k coins from that position.

What is he doing to be CEO, other than making sure he stays CEO?
He reminds me of most politicians. Get elected, then spend the entire term trying to get re-elected instead of doing something to benefit their constituents. Saying things like the coin will only prosper with me and will die without me is absurd. If a Dev from another successful coin were to come here and take you position, would you be okay with that? Somehow I doubt it.
177  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [ANN] MemoryCoin 2.0, Help "Free" the coin! on: January 07, 2014, 03:51:56 PM
Yes, worth noting that he doesn't seem to have many MemoryCoin himself,

You are right. I have 205 MMC.

80% of the coin from the 2 elections won(previous to today) were dispersed to those who voted. The other 20% was paid to FaSaN. This will be the same today.

How much coin do you have? 

How much coin have you paid out for services to benefit the coin? (This should be publicly displayed anyway) Services paid for the benefit of MCF don't count as MCF is an extension of your wallet.

Maybe wants to create a lower buy-in point. Sad
Nearly a month in and your coin is <$.50.  I'd say you have already depressed the price enough.
178  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [ANN] MemoryCoin 2.0 redistribution vote on: January 06, 2014, 09:20:15 PM
This is a pretty dumb plan. What do you think will happen to the price of the coin if you fire all the devs and officers just to get a little bit of extra coin? Greedy and dumb plan.
I already wrote, about 2 weeks ago, why I think the voting system is flawed and it's just as democratic as the elections in Iran...
Newmine I just voted for all positions with a 7,500 MMC wallet.
MQdsjzu6KMgqzMAZ7xhmiRbyzTukGcrDPN

I will keep this vote as long as you keep your word. I don't see any of the officers budge a nail for this coin so they definitely don't deserve more than 20% the current pay.

Good luck

I paid FaSaN to keep to my word.
Yep, I know.
Please check this query and let me know if you understand what's going on there:
https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=2047.msg24095#msg24095


I think FreeTrade has some explaining to do, especially since they're voting for him and most of the position holders

I won't hold my breath.
179  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [ANN] MemoryCoin 2.0 redistribution vote on: January 06, 2014, 04:38:01 PM
This is a pretty dumb plan. What do you think will happen to the price of the coin if you fire all the devs and officers just to get a little bit of extra coin? Greedy and dumb plan.
I already wrote, about 2 weeks ago, why I think the voting system is flawed and it's just as democratic as the elections in Iran...
Newmine I just voted for all positions with a 7,500 MMC wallet.
MQdsjzu6KMgqzMAZ7xhmiRbyzTukGcrDPN

I will keep this vote as long as you keep your word. I don't see any of the officers budge a nail for this coin so they definitely don't deserve more than 20% the current pay.

Good luck

I paid FaSaN to keep to my word.
180  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [ANN] MemoryCoin 2.0 redistribution vote on: January 06, 2014, 01:54:28 AM
EVeryone of you should feel stupid, all you would have to do is look at Memory Coin 1 and you would see the only thing FREETRADE wanted was free cash, a soon as the vote system didnt work for him, he crashed the original coin and had it taken of exchanges.  What makes you think this will be any differant, as soon as he is voted out, he will cash out(mm2 already made hime rich) then just crash a new coin.

if you dont believe me just read the original memory coin thread, its all there.  your best plan is to cash out and invest your energies into something real, and before you ask, no i dont have any pts/mm2 .



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I wish I would have seen this earlier.
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