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161  Economy / Economics / Re: could bitcoin eventually *cause* a global economy meltdown? on: April 08, 2013, 03:08:11 AM
Widespread Bitcoin adoption might force price discovery of fraudulently-inflated asset values in the traditional banking system.

That would look like Bitcoin was causing a global economic meltdown, but it would actually just be exposing what already happened and what couldn't have been hidden forever anyway.

Exactly.  Along these lines, maybe it will reveal price discovery of fraudulently DEFLATED things like gold and silver.  Or maybe it already is doing this.  It seems like Bitcoin is doing what gold and silver SHOULD be doing while valued in an inflationary currency like the US dollar.
162  Economy / Economics / Re: BTC-E vs Mt.GOX ... List price .. I don't get it. on: April 07, 2013, 01:00:28 AM
But how can this work, if I sell for example at 11PM at Mt.Gox for 142$ (meanwhile at BTC-E the price is at 132$) and then I send the $ over some different Exchanges to BTC-E to buy there new Bitcoins. I may donīt need any time, but after buying the Bitcoins there for about lets say also 132$ and try to send them to Mt.Gox, they need about 3 hours to validate. What happens if the price is falling there to 120$? Then you loose. How could then arbitrage-trading a possibility at Bitcoin-environment if there such large delays for validating each transaction?

You can have reserves on all the exchanges, that will allow you to execute orders in opposite directions simultaneously... And after that you transfer funds and wait for 3 hours... and then do it again, etc.

Exactly.  You need bitcoins on all exchanges ready to sell (for me, Bitfloor and MtGox).
163  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: 1099's on: April 07, 2013, 12:57:14 AM
You are talking about an ignorance tax.  Educate yourself at that link and you'll see that all you need to do is file the paperwork to show that you don't owe the taxes.

Thanks dscotese, I actually bought that book a few years back but decided I didn't want to take the risk of a long drawn out battle with the IRS.  I believe what it says is true though...Have you successfully filed taxes in the way he prescribes?
164  Bitcoin / Legal / 1099's on: April 06, 2013, 11:42:04 PM
I was under the impression that only when a company reported transactions or earnings to the IRS via a W-2 or 1099 that taxes were due.  Until Mtgox or other exchanges start mailing 1099s, the gov't is not getting a cent of my bitcoin profits.  They already mishandle and steal enough of the public's money as it is.
165  Economy / Economics / Re: BTC-E vs Mt.GOX ... List price .. I don't get it. on: April 06, 2013, 09:17:32 PM
It costs about 3.5% - 4% to go Dwolla -> MtGox -> OKpay -> BTC-e, or about 3.5% using AurumXchange.  So as long as the spread is greater than those costs, arbitrage away.   For example, the spread between the bid at Bitfloor and the ask at BTC-e is almost 11% (right now)!  I have bitcoins already waiting at Bitfloor and dollars sitting at BTC-e.  Buy at BTC-e, sell at Bitfloor - instant profit.  
166  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: THERE IS NO FORK LTC I WAS WORRIED FOR NOTHING! on: April 06, 2013, 01:36:27 PM
That chat on BTC-e is the worst thing ever.  I can't believe how many scared people post a thread here trying to verify the garbage that spews forth from that ridiculous little box. 

btc-e.com/disableChat

That's what I did and it's wonderful.
167  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: "Error opening block database. Do you want to rebuild the block database now?" on: April 02, 2013, 02:15:38 PM
Same problem, immediately upon upgrading from bitcoin-0.8.0rc1-win32 to 0.8.1, on Win7-64.

Chose Cancel. The .sst file referenced did not exist, but no problem creating the .sst file with Cygwin "touch". Deleted the .sst file I had created, restarted Bitcoin-Qt, ran fine the second time, no further mention of .sst files in the debug.log. 2-month old SATA laptop drive with no problems.

Code:
Bitcoin version v0.8.1-beta (2013-03-17 15:35:36 -0400)
Using OpenSSL version OpenSSL 1.0.1c 10 May 2012
Startup time: 2013-03-20 12:52:37
Default data directory C:\Users\username\AppData\Roaming\Bitcoin
Used data directory C:\Users\username\AppData\Local\LargeDB\Bitcoin
Using 4 threads for script verification
init message: Verifying wallet integrity...
dbenv.open LogDir=C:\Users\username\AppData\Local\LargeDB\Bitcoin\database ErrorFile=C:\Users\username\AppData\Local\LargeDB\Bitcoin\db.log
Bound to [::]:8333
Bound to 0.0.0.0:8333
init message: Loading block index...
Opening LevelDB in C:\Users\username\AppData\Local\LargeDB\Bitcoin\blocks\index
Opened LevelDB successfully
Opening LevelDB in C:\Users\username\AppData\Local\LargeDB\Bitcoin\chainstate
Opened LevelDB successfully
LoadBlockIndex(): last block file = 14
LoadBlockIndex(): last block file: CBlockFileInfo(blocks=789, size=119258104, heights=225479..226267, time=2013-03-12..2013-03-17)
LoadBlockIndex(): transaction index disabled
LoadBlockIndex(): hashBestChain=00000000000002e60135b76ddd31d727f4ca44c28f142e85ff38c199b1a098e8  height=226267 date=2013-03-17 02:17:42
init message: Verifying block database integrity...
Verifying last 288 blocks at level 3
LevelDB read failure: IO error: C:\Users\username\AppData\Local\LargeDB\Bitcoin\chainstate\013292.sst: Could not create random access file.

Oh boy, this is one those "geeky" things that the masses won't understand.  How did you implement this solution, in layman's terms?  This is happening to me as well.
168  Economy / Economics / Re: Is deflation a solution for many world problems? Is bitcoins just the start? on: April 01, 2013, 03:47:26 AM
I guess this is been discussed many times, but maybe not with this exact focus.

I red some article of some 'economy expert' saying that bitcoin will fail because deflation gives people an incentive to save and store value instead of spending. Without an incentive to spend the economy would generally slow down.
Now, using the word 'economy' like this is an abuse in the sense that economy is not a synonym for "total amount of transactions".

Being born and raised in the country, one thing that puzzles me now that I live in a first world capital, is how pointless consumption became. In order for a business to become successful, it is necessary in the first place that it generates a big amount of transactions. There is no value in something that built with proper quality and will last for long periods of time with little or no maintenance.

Furniture, electronics, clothes, all these went from being medium term investments to almost disposable goods, and indeed this trend is moving forward. The current economical model forces production parties to keep making profit instead of just making profit.
This is fundamentally different.

Basically, deflation would enable people to hold on to whatever value they managed to collect through their work. I think it could lead to a much better sense of what 'need' really means. If the productive machine does add real value ten the currency would deflate naturally, so there wouldn't be much of a problem of people being tight to it as they would be holding more value in their pockets anyway (because of deflation).

Does this makes sense? Does it have any major flaw?

This would force a huge paradigm shift, and obviously established power would offer resistance to change. Hoever, bitcoin is proving that it is possible for the masses to push change from underneath. Can such changes be pushed to the extent of changing the core of world economics?

Spot on!  This has long been my thinking, as well.  The world's current financial system is debt based (especially the U.S. who happens to have the reserve currency) and inflation is only necessary because constant growth of nominal dollars is needed to keep the accrued debt of the past at bay.    Inflation makes older dollars worth less, enabling newer dollars (created in more quanitity) to pay off the old debt.  It's basically a giant ponzi scheme and the moment that the nominal growth stops and the value increases (deflation), the music stops and the system crashes.  That's why they've kept interest rates so low for so long because it fosters creation of new debt and keeps everything running. 
Inflation only benefits the group that creates the debt (government/banking system).  Deflation hurts them, therefore all the propaganda against deflation. 
169  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Apparently I owe Coinbase.com on: March 30, 2013, 01:29:57 AM
Is there any BTC company out there that is not riddled with problem.. Hope they fix it up.. i was rather thinking they were decet before i say these dialogs here and other threads..

Yes. MPEx.

SPAM
170  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Warning - Do not use Coinbase! on: March 25, 2013, 02:14:00 AM
They are trying to provide a service that most other wallets and exchanges don't do, mainly letting you buy bitcoins thru ACH bank transfers.  That is very attractive to me and most casual buyers of bitcoin will probably agree.  Just try making a US dollar deposit into BTC-e and you'll see why what Coinbase offers if preferable.  
Along with offering this ease of use is the fight against charge-back fraud.  I read somewhere that they have developed a security system to fight such a battle and I suspect that their recent issues are as a result of that.  It's too bad that the growing pains involved in developing these bitcoin based businesses often leads them into being accused of scamming, due to lack of user's patience in dealing with temporary situations.  
171  Economy / Economics / Re: Why Are Bitcoins Worth $70? on: March 24, 2013, 02:56:47 AM
Don't tell anyone, but precious metals are in a bubble too.... Wink
So what?  What is the term "bubble" mean other than a word designed to give a negative connotation to a rise in price seen by the perceiver as illegitimate?   So far, in Bitcoin, we've had two large moves:  the first from about $1 to $30 and the second from about $13 to $70 (and who know if it's done?)  Simply put, it's proven it's capable of multiple LARGE moves.  Who's to say there won't be a third move or a fourth?  In fact, the chart you posted could look insignificant in three years time.  Like a blip.  I don't care if it's a "bubble", I'm gonna ride it as far as it'll take me while you're sitting there going WTF!
172  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Ripple Giveaway! on: March 13, 2013, 11:21:02 PM
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173  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Coinbase cancellation issues are NOT resolved. on: March 10, 2013, 05:37:40 PM
I am a smaller customer, and I've always gotten my bitcoin from coinbase.

That's good to hear. I don't hear the same story in many other places.
See the poll at this thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=147071.0

The majority of people seem to get their bitcoin with no problems.  I know I have.
174  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Coinbase Users! Please Contribute Data! on: March 10, 2013, 04:47:05 PM
My recent purchase cleared right on schedule.'

However, I have been unable to initiate any new purchases for the last 3-4 days.  I always get the "limit has been reached" message.  Has anyone been able to place an order on coinbase recently?  If so, how?

You're probably running up against their daily limits on the total number of Bitcoins they sell (presumably because they have an algorithm to limit the number of coins in their hot wallet per day to x percent).  However, it's a rolling limit, so if you check back a few hours later it may be lifted.

I'm still not very happy with the number of incidents I'm hearing where they overturn Bitcoin purchases a week later after the price has gone up considerably.  In the meantime, that amount is presumably frozen in your bank account.  I don't think they're trying to pull any kind of intentional scam, but it leaves a very bad taste in new customers mouths, even ones they are not directly affected.  I like the ease with which I was able to add a checking account to Coinbase, but I'll probably be using another exchange in the future (trying to move away from MTGOX).  Perhaps Bitstamp, who has by far the cleanest-designed site of any exchange I've seen in 2+ years of buying Bitcoins.  I used them to fund my Ripple account in BTC and then buy a few Ripple and have been very impressed (disclaimer: I haven't actually used them for any BTC trades yet, so do your due diligence).
Yes, I ran up against that "limit reached" message on Friday.  I tried 3 times and on the third try was able to place the order.  Total wait time about 10 minutes. 
175  Economy / Economics / Re: Bumping into scarcity: does this graphic explain it well? on: March 08, 2013, 04:58:31 AM
As long as they have utility, scarcity will continue driving it up, despite the occasional violent sell-off.
176  Economy / Economics / Re: Why do people think one Bitcoin will be worth $1000 (or more) on: March 08, 2013, 04:51:51 AM
How long do you think this game is going to last?

As long as everyone of us is happy to have some of those (100$ notes).

As long as our bosses give us a couple of those at the end of the month.

As long as we can buy booze and hookers with it.

All of those we can't with Bitcoins.

Therefore: All we do with Bitcoins is go to MtGox and change into $$$ to do the above.

You're really talking about convenience right?  Right now it is more convenient to do those things with dollars, that's true.  But, I trust you are aware that the US dollar has been around for a couple HUNDRED YEARS right?  It's kind of established?  It's completely unfair to compare a fledgling 4 year old digital currency to a major one and expect it to immediately have the same utility and convenience.  The junkyard of history is littered with detractors of new technologies and innovations, where given enough time, they turn out to be tomorrow's mainstream.  
177  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: [ANN] BTCJam - Peer to Peer Bitcoin Lending on: March 02, 2013, 10:49:26 PM
Does BTCJam impose a minimum deposit of funds?
I don't think so.

Thanks for your response.

Now my the question i wrote BTCJam about is what protection does BTCJam offer to lenders that have fallen prey to a borrower that has not paid back :-/ We will see what happens.

On the fiat P2P platforms like Prosper or Lending Club, the only protection you have is that they'll report the borrower to a collections agency.  I think they also tried suing early on, but with limited success.  This is the risk of unsecured lending.  I do believe you have to have a minimum credit score like a 660 or something close to that before you can borrow.  That actually weeds a lot of high risk borrowers out.  BTCJam would probably do well to institute something similar.
178  Economy / Speculation / Re: Speculation: Coinbase causing these massive peaks and dips. on: February 17, 2013, 06:18:33 PM
Redbeans,

I also noticed that my meager supply of bitcoins at Coinbase now reads zero.  I suspect it may have something to do with their "big code update" Armstrong mentioned in his blog.  Neverthess, I sent an email just to be sure, 'cause it's a little alarming.
179  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Bitcoin Value on: April 09, 2012, 08:00:17 AM
How so?  It's programmed to stop at 21 million, right?

the number of bitcoins yes, not the number of bitcoin-denominated money supply.

let say the cap is 1 bitcoin, and the coin belongs to A. then A decides to lend it to B and so on until it's in the hands of E:

A->B->C->D->E

person E holds 1 bitcoin (can be used as money)
A, B, C & D each hold a note that says "IOU 1 bitcoin" which can also be used as money.[1]

total bitcoins: 1
total bitcoin economy: 5 btc

the fact that B, C, D & E also have debt is irrelevant. if i am $1 in debt and have $1 in my pocket my net worth may be $0, but i can still physically spend that $1 wherever i want. both the debt and the dollar are part of the total economy.

[1] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=74926

That is true, only if it's possible to "lend" bitcoin.  What you are describing is fractional reserve banking and is completely counter-productive to what bitcoin represents.
180  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What I love about liberals and statists. on: April 09, 2012, 07:33:57 AM
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