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161  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] NODE Revolution: "Money is a means of payment, not speculation" (с) on: October 12, 2015, 09:37:48 AM
My qora deposit is stuck from july and after over 90 mesages they still keep saying they are working on it .
162  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] NODE Revolution: "Money is a means of payment, not speculation" (с) on: October 12, 2015, 09:35:51 AM
From where is an action today? 26 transaction per hour made today. Maybe bter send missing payouts?

Yes, I spoke today with the administrator, bter works, try the transaction again

Doesnt matter what they says Bter are liers and thieves ,i doubt that they ever send any coins .
163  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network on: September 06, 2015, 08:18:06 AM
Why do you not sell qora for btc and withdray btc?

In our case, we were depositing Qora.

BTer was holding each successive deposit longer and longer, starting at a few days, then weeks, now months before crediting the deposit.

Luckily, as the deposits took longer, we were reducing the amounts.

With the last deposit, they immediately transferred the funds to their forging wallet, then began claiming the wallet didn't work, when we can all see it is working.

This was 3+ months ago. We have not received a reply from support in nearly 1 month, but the replies were pointless anyway as they all say the same thing no matter what question you ask.

Quote
Dear Sir,

Our qora wallet doesn't work well, we are trying to fix it .

When the wallet works well again, your deposit is expected to show on your account

Best
Bter.com

... or many variations of the above. They've never addressed a single question we've asked.






[/quot]


the same for me
164  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network on: September 05, 2015, 12:19:05 PM
Why do you not sell qora for btc and withdray btc?

because they dont transfer my deposit to my Bter acc
165  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network on: September 04, 2015, 11:19:09 AM
My question is how much is the foraged coins worth in btc or usd and is it worth the flak they are getting for it?

When someone steals $50-$100 bucks from me, lies for 12 weeks and holds $14,000 (at one point) of other peoples money hostage ... yeah it's worth every single bit of the flak IMO.


Of course they deserve the flak. My questions is why is it worth it for BTER.......  to make a few bucks at most by wrongly holding other peoples coins.
I think it's not and I think it's more about incompetence.

  • They say there is a problem with the wallet.
  • The wallet has been forging (even today, collecting 50 Qora from the infinite loop each block), receiving/sending funds without issue.
  • If there was an issue, as a legitimate business owner, would you A) continue holding their funds for 3+ months or B) refund their funds via another method or out of another wallet?

I dismissed "incompetence" long ago.

This is either personal with a few people (totaling $14,000? who knows how much of that is being held or is even real) who've pissed off their support (by holding the customers funds and not answering questions with anything other repeated canned responses) or it's an outright fractional reserve caught in the act.

I'm currently leaning heavily towards the latter with a low probability of that opinion changing or ever seeing the funds again.




Its not incompetence at all , because before the hack they were competent enough to not have any problems with qora wallet and were responding and solving problems very fast. Now they are just delaying inevitable end of their exchange and trying to scam as many people as possible before they go bankrupt .
166  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: BitShares 2.0 - Just the Facts Thread on: September 03, 2015, 08:55:04 AM
Can anybody help me i dont know how to exchange my angelshares to bitshares?
167  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network on: August 31, 2015, 06:29:13 PM
bter holds withdrawals or deposits too?

They've held our Qora deposit for 12 weeks in the wallet they forge with and receive more funds with daily while claiming the wallet doesn't work.


I'm not defending bter but how much are the coins they are forging worth ?

I THINK ITS ABOUT HALF A BILLION QORAS

as far as I know BTER is #1 and #6 wallet. you can do the maths... Cheesy they hold tons of qora hostile.

My question is how much is the foraged coins worth in btc or usd and is it worth the flak they are getting for it?

i think its about 50- 70 btc in current prices
168  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network on: August 31, 2015, 04:37:02 PM
bter holds withdrawals or deposits too?

They've held our Qora deposit for 12 weeks in the wallet they forge with and receive more funds with daily while claiming the wallet doesn't work.


I'm not defending bter but how much are the coins they are forging worth ?

I THINK ITS ABOUT HALF A BILLION QORAS
169  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network on: August 31, 2015, 09:10:21 AM
Bter.com is still withholding QORA, don't trade there!

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=280806.msg12286998#msg12286998

this. looks like BTER is collapsed to be honest. I hear similiar things from other crypto communities.

So, the best place to trade Qora is CCEDK.

bter holds withdrawals or deposits too?


They are thieves !!!! They are decieving people letting to deposit cryptos and then telling them , sorry your deposit is stuck . ( meaning thank you for your donation ,you will never get it back)
170  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][Exchange] Bter.com [Android App] [Deposit BTSX Now!][Tweets by @btercom] on: August 31, 2015, 09:02:50 AM
OP,

It's been 12 weeks since BTer claimed to have a problem with our deposit.

In 12 weeks BTer claims they still can't figure out their wallet issues, this is admitting to being incompetent.

In those 12 weeks the wallet our funds are still residing in continues to forge and collect fees without issues.

That same wallet is also collecting and sending funds during this 12 weeks without issue.

How does OP or any BTer rep explain this?

Why can't BTer simply cover the funds (proven to be received by BTer) in Bitcoin or simply refund in Qora from another wallet (since the working one it resides in doesn't work when trying to refund our account for some reason).

What possible explanation could there be to hold customers funds for 12 weeks regardless of the problem on your end?


Bter is  a complete scam ,they said the same thing to me and my qoras are stuck in Bter as well and forging as well .




171  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BURST] Burst | Efficient HDD Mining | New 1.2.3 Fork block 92000 on: August 29, 2015, 01:58:43 PM
elmit, if you are selling financial products in germany you need to fullfill the requirements for example of § 34f / § 34g. this has nothing to do with being a bank.

Mr Marco Feindler stated in his sales document:

Instant Cashout without loss! Also you can cashout anytime. I will buy back the assets from you. Therfore i will place a buy order for every sold asset with a price of 50 Burst. The price what i pay for the payback will decrease 1% every month. Buywall will be created instantly after the first sales and adapted every first day of the month.

there was no adapted buy order in august. please take a look at the asset orderbook...that is classic scam in my opinion.



I called him out myself, honestly I never trusted or liked the guy very much. Nonetheless I supported his project, now it seems he is thieving from everyone. Very upsetting and yet another scar on BURST.

Honestly it is quite ridiculous. I say go after him if you can, if you're in the same country. He has yet to respond to my call out.

Sorry Guys,
I was not online for the last weeks, because i was on a business trip and im back on monday.
Next payout will be again 2%. Eerybody who wants to cash out, pn me.

Regards
Boba

Why last month payout was not 2 % ?
172  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BURST] Burst | Efficient HDD Mining | New 1.2.3 Fork block 92000 on: August 18, 2015, 08:14:44 AM
Any news whats going on with BdeBank asset?  Now that shit is selling them for 48 instead of buying it for 50 which he promised.
173  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BURST] Burst | Efficient HDD Mining | New 1.2.3 Fork block 92000 on: August 11, 2015, 05:50:09 PM
Where is buy out wall for this asset Huh which we were promised
174  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BURST] Burst | Efficient HDD Mining | New 1.2.3 Fork block 92000 on: August 11, 2015, 05:46:10 PM
Was BdeBank a scam or what?

I received 2% from BdeBank, 300 Burst. I own 300 shares (15,000) *0.02 = 300

I don't know if maybe there is a ex dividend date, you might of missed?


I did not missed anything because i am holding for a few month and i got only about    0,6- 0,5 % this month . So where is my 1.4 -1.5 % for july Huh Whats going on???
175  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BURST] Burst | Efficient HDD Mining | New 1.2.3 Fork block 92000 on: August 11, 2015, 08:52:30 AM
Was BdeBank a scam or what?
176  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BURST] Burst | Efficient HDD Mining | New 1.2.3 Fork block 92000 on: August 11, 2015, 08:51:16 AM
-
[ANNOUNCEMENT]
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First Burstcoin.de
Asset
New Asset with 2%
Interest a Month / 24% a Interest
a Year / Highly Secure
Asset Name

BdeBank
Total number available

5
00
.
00
0
Price–50 Burst Asset Number (ID)

4053085726300717216
2%
Interest
montly!
This asset pays out 2%
Interest
monthly.
One
B.deBank  Asset = 50 Burst. 2% of
50 Burst = 1 Burst / month payout.
URL:
http://www.burstcoin.de/assets/asset_b.debank.pdf
Guaranteed
monthly payout!
Every first day of
the month i will payout all
Interest
of the assets.
Regardless how long you are owner oft them. Also if you bought
the assets one day before the first.
Save Investment!
The
Interests are covered and backed by my mining system. If all shares are sold, i
have
to pay
500.000 Burst 
Interest
a month. My Miners make average 25.000
Burst
per day, whats in
a month 750.000 Burst. So the payment of
Interest
is secured forever.
Also i am actually bring up
more miners, also, look above, this is covert with my burst account with 8.4 Million Burstcoins atm.
Instant Cashout without loss!
Also you can cashout anytime. I will buy back the assets from you.
Therfore i will place a buy order for every sold asset with a price of 50 Burst. The price what i pay for
the
payback will decrease 1
% every month.
Buywall will be created instantly after the first sales and
adapted every first day of the month.





Anybody knows what happened to BdeBank asset guaranteed payouts of 2% and where is buy back cashout wall at 50 burst
177  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network on: August 03, 2015, 12:36:07 PM
When I say hardball, I mean you need to let them know that you will be telling the rest of the world about this, and they can expect only difficulties from then on if they dont act on this immediately. I received answer and withdrawal was executed within a few hours. It should not be necessary to act like this to get your funds, which I why I suggest you to take it all out.

I think we threw too many hardballs and must have beaned BTer's customer service on the head a few times.  Tongue

8 weeks and still no funds from BTer, only the same lame excuse that their wallet doesn't work, while you and others continue to receive funds, from their non-working wallet, that everyone, including us, can see forging just fine and sending funds to other people without issue ... but yeah, it doesn't work when they try to send us our funds. (have we mentioned that before? lulz)



I would love to be able to withdraw my funds, but the issue I have been having with Bter now going on 7 weeks is my deposit to the Bter provided address has yet to credit. The funds have shown in the wallet via block explorer since day 1, but Bter has failed to make that balance available for any interaction.

Here's the real kicker, in the interim, they have managed to forge 667 Qora with my balance live in their wallet.

strange , last week i withdrawn about 20 mil without any problems . 3 transactions took me a few minutes
178  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BURST] Burst | Efficient HDD Mining | New 1.2.3 Fork block 92000 on: August 03, 2015, 07:44:46 AM
byteent no dividends at all  Huh
179  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BURST] Burst | Efficient HDD Mining | New 1.2.3 Fork block 92000 on: August 03, 2015, 07:42:12 AM
its only around 0.5 or 0.6 percents
180  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BURST] Burst | Efficient HDD Mining | New 1.2.3 Fork block 92000 on: August 03, 2015, 07:39:07 AM
Why bdebank dividends are so small ? should be 2 %
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