sad, but true. The thing is, though, and correct me if I'm wrong, these ROIs are based on litecoin, correct? I plan to multipool these gridseeds to death.
He actually made two calculations, one straight LTC and one where the diff would have very low increase to simulate higher income from multipool for example. But alot did still not make any ROI I get that, but what I think people must consider is that difficulty increase with LTC is not the deathknell to 10M scrypt rigs that everyone might think, as these rigs can still be profitable as proxies for LTC through alts. In other words, you can bank on at least one or two or three alts having awesome profitability--and almost all of them are scrypt--as time goes on, and you just stay on the profit pools like waffle and clever while your colleagues continue the asic arms race on LTC that will certainly ensue. Or am I totally off? The large ASICs can mine multipools too, or any Scrypt altcoins, so I don't think that small scrypt rigs are somehow immune to the arms race. You'll see more and more new coins use other algos, this is already happening. To me it looks like the only chance to ROI is upgrading to the next ASIC while you can still sell the old one, which is what I'm trying to do. Got so far as Gridseeds (5-chip) -> blades -> Zeus (backorder unfortunately, I hate those). I'm not really sure I could afford two blades for for my 20 modded pis...and even then I am not getting a huge boost. By the time I am finally comfortable with the gear, I've got to sell it. It's impossible for a guy as busy as me to keep up with all this... I sort of am growing to hate mining and regretting getting into it. |
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$20.00 bounty to anyone who can make me a pre-loaded SD card with Sandor's latest autotune for Rasp Pi that is working, and give me an hour of their time on teamviewer this weekend to make it work.
I am in Toronto.
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sad, but true. The thing is, though, and correct me if I'm wrong, these ROIs are based on litecoin, correct? I plan to multipool these gridseeds to death.
He actually made two calculations, one straight LTC and one where the diff would have very low increase to simulate higher income from multipool for example. But alot did still not make any ROI I get that, but what I think people must consider is that difficulty increase with LTC is not the deathknell to 10M scrypt rigs that everyone might think, as these rigs can still be profitable as proxies for LTC through alts. In other words, you can bank on at least one or two or three alts having awesome profitability--and almost all of them are scrypt--as time goes on, and you just stay on the profit pools like waffle and clever while your colleagues continue the asic arms race on LTC that will certainly ensue. Or am I totally off? |
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Wolfey - I'm using multipool.us. Overall I like it better than clevermining mainly due to the fact that you can see what's being mined at the current time, as well as your balances of each coin. They don't automatically exchange and payout in btc like clevermining though - although I wish that were an option. They do have full cryptsy integration though. You have more information and control over what you're mining at multipool as opposed to a couple graphs with no specific information.
I enjoy my voltmods - not sure about dyland and what went wrong there. Each of my gridseeds hovers around the 500-530kh/s.
what controller are you using? I just have them hooked up to my win 8.1 pc. thanks, but what program to run the seeds? |
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Wolfey - I'm using multipool.us. Overall I like it better than clevermining mainly due to the fact that you can see what's being mined at the current time, as well as your balances of each coin. They don't automatically exchange and payout in btc like clevermining though - although I wish that were an option. They do have full cryptsy integration though. You have more information and control over what you're mining at multipool as opposed to a couple graphs with no specific information.
I enjoy my voltmods - not sure about dyland and what went wrong there. Each of my gridseeds hovers around the 500-530kh/s.
Thanks nst. I'll look into it. Might go there again. Wasn't impressed first time I tried multipooling with Scrypt Guild. They said I'd make an average of 40% more but that just wasn't the case! And I don't like anyone converting my coins for me automatically unless I designate which coins get exchanged and at which rate or time. Did you use the 49.9k value? What is your HW to Accepts ratio on average? I'm averaging 14+KHs pool side with my 26 OC's miners.  Nice, eh? Woof Some are using 49.9k, some are 50k. Some gridseeds have trim pots on them, others have 2x100k resistors in parallel to equal the 50k. I just used what I had on hand since I had a surplus of trim pots and 100k resistors  I've only got 6 gridseeds but they're running along nicely at 3MH/s. I put in a pre-order for one of the GAWMiners 1MH/s Fury units that came with just about everything including the kitchen sink for $199. It was a deal I couldn't pass up since it came with the miner, all power cables, network cable, raspberry pi, pre-loaded sd card, and free shipping. That's pretty expensive knowing other company's will have +10MH for around 350$ Hold on, which companies and when? This must be a reference to the Titan. I hope I'm not wrong, but I don't think we will see Titan until September. Unless you're just talking about the natural price decrease of the A2 chip over the next few months. No I'm not talking about price decrease of A2 there are so many companies that will deliver asic miners soon. Fibonacci is coming out with a miner that will give ( at this point 14Mh ) for 350$ not yet updates on their website but it is 14Mh and this number could get higher to match competition. Flower tech ( funny they make a gridseed looking one as well ) https://www.flowertechnology.com/product-category/miners/and I suggest everyone to look at this chart https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1msn9gC7wgBYdiyOLZLhQifOSKpt3ukdnuTy14m-F-s8/htmlview?usp=sharing&sle=truesomehow today the days to ROI collum does not work, but many, especially gridseeds will never roi sad, but true. The thing is, though, and correct me if I'm wrong, these ROIs are based on litecoin, correct? I plan to multipool these gridseeds to death. |
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Holy, I haven't looked at the pool profitability page for awhile now, last time I looked at it (less than a week ago) it was at 12GH/s. Now it's at 33.7GH/s!  Seems like more and more people are getting their scrypt ASICs now. Nope. Just one big guy jumping from pool to pool. Sometimes he mines here, sometimes on waffle. I want to be him. Known as the Chinese Whale. PS anyone happen to be on clevermining with volt-modded gridseeds and using hashra controlla? |
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Wolfey - I'm using multipool.us. Overall I like it better than clevermining mainly due to the fact that you can see what's being mined at the current time, as well as your balances of each coin. They don't automatically exchange and payout in btc like clevermining though - although I wish that were an option. They do have full cryptsy integration though. You have more information and control over what you're mining at multipool as opposed to a couple graphs with no specific information.
I enjoy my voltmods - not sure about dyland and what went wrong there. Each of my gridseeds hovers around the 500-530kh/s.
what controller are you using? |
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Wolfey - I'm using multipool.us. Overall I like it better than clevermining mainly due to the fact that you can see what's being mined at the current time, as well as your balances of each coin. They don't automatically exchange and payout in btc like clevermining though - although I wish that were an option. They do have full cryptsy integration though. You have more information and control over what you're mining at multipool as opposed to a couple graphs with no specific information.
I enjoy my voltmods - not sure about dyland and what went wrong there. Each of my gridseeds hovers around the 500-530kh/s.
Thanks nst. I'll look into it. Might go there again. Wasn't impressed first time I tried multipooling with Scrypt Guild. They said I'd make an average of 40% more but that just wasn't the case! And I don't like anyone converting my coins for me automatically unless I designate which coins get exchanged and at which rate or time. Did you use the 49.9k value? What is your HW to Accepts ratio on average? I'm averaging 14+KHs pool side with my 26 OC's miners. Nice, eh? Woof Some are using 49.9k, some are 50k. Some gridseeds have trim pots on them, others have 2x100k resistors in parallel to equal the 50k. I just used what I had on hand since I had a surplus of trim pots and 100k resistors I've only got 6 gridseeds but they're running along nicely at 3MH/s. I put in a pre-order for one of the GAWMiners 1MH/s Fury units that came with just about everything including the kitchen sink for $199. It was a deal I couldn't pass up since it came with the miner, all power cables, network cable, raspberry pi, pre-loaded sd card, and free shipping. That's pretty expensive knowing other company's will have +10MH for around 350$ Hold on, which companies and when? This must be a reference to the Titan. I hope I'm not wrong, but I don't think we will see Titan until September. Unless you're just talking about the natural price decrease of the A2 chip over the next few months. |
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Sorry - I'm not using a Controlla either. I'd guess the issue is not the mod though (if done correctly) if you have problems at 800Mhz too. Too many people have reported success with vmod3. Have you tried a different pool?
Haven't tried a different pool as of yet. But I'd like to stick with clevermining... Can I pay anyone to load an sd with a plug and play image that works? I don't have a raspberry pi so I can't help you there, but I WAS using Clevermining. WAS being the keyword. Recently (this past weekend actually) I noticed some VERY inconsistent results from that pool as well as a very high reject rate (which they say is a 'false reporting'...not sure how much I believe that). For example, I had 3 gridseeds pointed to that pool and when I would start mining it would be sometimes 3-4 minutes before a single share was accepted. Then a few more would get accepted, and then another 5 minutes or so before another share was accepted. Their graph of my hashrate would fluctuate between 1.5Mh/s down to almost 0. Using the same version of cpuminer I switched back to Multipool and there was no delay in accepted shares, lower reject rates, and more consistent hashrates around the 1.4-1.5Mh/s range. Also at Clevermining I have 0.00000016 BTC "Immature" and 0.00046437 BTC "unexchanged"...that number hasn't changed for the past 2 days, leaving my "payout" just below their threshold. All that adds up to something that seems a little "off" so I've switched all my workers over to Multipool. Hmm Maybe I'll give multipool a shot then. I seem to be stable at 600 lol. I definitely wasted both money and time on the volt mod. Hey, just curious. What went wrong with your volt mod? What Multipool are you using? I'd like to find one that actually can deliver more $/KHs overall. Thx! The hardware hack itself is flawless; the problem is I have no time to change from hashra controla (which seems to be the problem I guess--though I have a crazy reject rate reported when I run above 600khz), and last time I tried to get a pi to boot on my own with wheezy, I had zero luck and lost precious sleep for the following work week. So here I am with zero time to change image on pi (if that is even the problem...) and I am at less hashes and paid out to my modder $200.00. So I am set back two weeks at least in profits at this point and losing ground fast. I have lost so much money in mining....I wanted to stay ahead somehow by getting an A2, but realized I can't even really afford a blade at this point, so I thought, "hey, I can get 2.5M for $200.00? OK, that's what I can afford to do at the moment....let's go for that with a volt mod".
I am using clevermining, but I'm not married to it. I don't think the problem is the volt mod at all; the problem is either controller or pool. I don't quite understand, however, if it is the controller--ie that you need to tune out the gridseeds with specific khz--as other users in this thread are running all of their units at 1150, 1200, etc. I ran mine at 1200khz for 12 hours and I have a few HW errors, but the reject rate showing on controlla is crazy! Like 20%. Reject showing poolside is substantially less though: like 7%. But overall hashes poolside are about half of what they should be.... |
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Sorry - I'm not using a Controlla either. I'd guess the issue is not the mod though (if done correctly) if you have problems at 800Mhz too. Too many people have reported success with vmod3. Have you tried a different pool?
Haven't tried a different pool as of yet. But I'd like to stick with clevermining... Can I pay anyone to load an sd with a plug and play image that works? I don't have a raspberry pi so I can't help you there, but I WAS using Clevermining. WAS being the keyword. Recently (this past weekend actually) I noticed some VERY inconsistent results from that pool as well as a very high reject rate (which they say is a 'false reporting'...not sure how much I believe that). For example, I had 3 gridseeds pointed to that pool and when I would start mining it would be sometimes 3-4 minutes before a single share was accepted. Then a few more would get accepted, and then another 5 minutes or so before another share was accepted. Their graph of my hashrate would fluctuate between 1.5Mh/s down to almost 0. Using the same version of cpuminer I switched back to Multipool and there was no delay in accepted shares, lower reject rates, and more consistent hashrates around the 1.4-1.5Mh/s range. Also at Clevermining I have 0.00000016 BTC "Immature" and 0.00046437 BTC "unexchanged"...that number hasn't changed for the past 2 days, leaving my "payout" just below their threshold. All that adds up to something that seems a little "off" so I've switched all my workers over to Multipool. Hmm Maybe I'll give multipool a shot then. I seem to be stable at 600 lol. I definitely wasted both money and time on the volt mod. |
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Sorry - I'm not using a Controlla either. I'd guess the issue is not the mod though (if done correctly) if you have problems at 800Mhz too. Too many people have reported success with vmod3. Have you tried a different pool?
Haven't tried a different pool as of yet. But I'd like to stick with clevermining... Can I pay anyone to load an sd with a plug and play image that works? |
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will this mod work with hashra controla?
The mod will work for any mining software, you just need to change the chip frequency. Nervous to attempt, but an extra 100 khsh across 20 miners translates to an extra 2Mhsh. Anyone want to share any best practices aside from OP? I did the 49.9k mod on all 14 of my gridseeds and I'm glad I did. I'm running CPUminer and all of my chips are stable at 1200mhz and up. The pool and CPUminer and both reporting very close to each other so I'm happy!! I am having no luck with my 20 modded units running hashra controla on rasp pi. after volt mod, my pool reports almost half of my un-modded previous hashrate  are you on rasp pi or windows for cpuminer? I am looking for a plug and play solution for raspberry pi that will work with the 47.7k volt mod. any ideas from anyone? Controlla may be the culprit. I can't say how optimized it was/is for use with volt modded pods. Try CPU miner. It's the one virtually all of us cpuminer lovers are having the most success with, locally and pool side. I'm mining on suchpool for and their hashrate states vary radically sometimes but usually they are very close to what my local pool rate says. Nice work Sandorino! Yep, Wolfey finally took the dive and has been running .09f for a couple hours now. So far so good! By the way, do you have a list posted of all the new/latest features and commands. I know, it's on github, right? Tanks! Crap. I wouldn't have gone down this route if I had known hashra controlla wouldn't work as I have zero time. Literally. I have to time the end of my pee with flushing the toilet so I can have an extra two minutes per day of sleep. This is why I asked if it would work in the first place..... Anyway, I have not the first clue about where to get cpu miner, how to load it, etc. Once I were to image it onto an SD, would it be plug and play into the rasp pi? Thanks in advance for your help. OR, would anyone in this thread be willing to sell me a plg and play SD for my Pi that will work with 20 volt modded pis? |
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What frequency are you trying to run them at? I have one with 47.5k and the slowest chip only wants to do 1125MHz other chips will do 1150MHz or 1175MHz. Setting it all at 1150MHz works ok.
Thanks for the reply; first off, I am running hashra controla on rasp pi, which allows you to set frequency in 50 spot increments across ALL gridseeds. I was hoping with the voltmod that it would essentially raise the speed limit across all gridseeds, but it does not. It looks like I am getting only about half of the Mhash I should be getting and I have crazy high rejection rates. That said I had them all at 1150, and it is paltry compared with where it should be with volt mod. Hashra controla seems to be reporting normally, except for all the rejects, but poolside, yeah, it sucks. I hear people on this thread running all at 1150 or at 1200 with no problems, so I don't really know where my problem is: 1) the gridseeds 2) the controller 3) the pool, or some combination. |
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will this mod work with hashra controla?
The mod will work for any mining software, you just need to change the chip frequency. Nervous to attempt, but an extra 100 khsh across 20 miners translates to an extra 2Mhsh. Anyone want to share any best practices aside from OP? I did the 49.9k mod on all 14 of my gridseeds and I'm glad I did. I'm running CPUminer and all of my chips are stable at 1200mhz and up. The pool and CPUminer and both reporting very close to each other so I'm happy!! I am having no luck with my 20 modded units running hashra controla on rasp pi. after volt mod, my pool reports almost half of my un-modded previous hashrate are you on rasp pi or windows for cpuminer? I am looking for a plug and play solution for raspberry pi that will work with the 47.7k volt mod. any ideas from anyone? |
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anyone mining on here with volt-modded gridseeds using hashra?
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Ok, so I have the 47.7 mod on my twenty miners and they are running on hashra with about 9% rejection rate at 1200khz, but that's not my problem.
The bigger problem is hashra is showing me at 10.2M, but my pool (clever mining) is only showing half that amount, 5M.
Any ideas on this from anyone?
Thanks in advance.
I'm not familiar with hashra, but does it show accepted shares? You can do the math based on that and figure out if the pool is wrong or if you are not really mining at that speed. It shows accepted shares, but I have a 17% reject rate and last night ran my 20 pods at 800khz and when I woke up there were 361 HW errors. Something is wrong, and I'm assuming it's the hashra controla used with voltage mod---despite more than a few people on this thread saying that it would work. |
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Ok, so I have the 47.7 mod on my twenty miners and they are running on hashra with about 9% rejection rate at 1200khz, but that's not my problem.
The bigger problem is hashra is showing me at 10.2M, but my pool (clever mining) is only showing half that amount, 5M.
Any ideas on this from anyone?
Thanks in advance.
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This is exactly what I was contemplating with my own mining operation before i realized I had no money left for such a purchase. Don't know if you want to work with Jack again, but he is selling 75M for $8500 USD, and 90M for prob just a bit more - May 15 ship, I believe. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421921.0Also, guy out of Holland, username blaater, selling 60M right now for $9150 USD https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=585169.msg6505894#msg6505894You can probably find a lot of buyers for the pods (including me!) at 60 USD, which would would prob net enough to get you a 90M, if you went that route. Any, I'm all for the purchase. I say start selling now, and then by the 15th you should have enough capital to make the order and have it shipped out. |
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will this mod work with hashra controla?
The mod will work for any mining software, you just need to change the chip frequency. Nervous to attempt, but an extra 100 khsh across 20 miners translates to an extra 2Mhsh. Anyone want to share any best practices aside from OP? I did the 49.9k mod on all 14 of my gridseeds and I'm glad I did. I'm running CPUminer and all of my chips are stable at 1200mhz and up. The pool and CPUminer and both reporting very close to each other so I'm happy!! Thanks for the follow up; can you list the tools/hardware you used and your new hash rate? Also if possible, anyone know the page in thus thread where I find the 49.9k mod offhand? Go back to page 1, search for - wolfey2014 - all my posts will come up, and all shall be revealed to you Thanks Wolfey, I'm still a bit confused though: what's the better mod between these two below? The guy I have doing it is only familiar with 47k mod. VMOD 3: (47k): Up to freq=1175 (500kH/s poolside average) 30 +/-4 watt VMOD 3: (49.9k): Up to freq=1200 (510kH/s poolside average) 33 +/-4 watt i have used 48k resistors (measured and selected from a pack of 5% 47k 1/8W resistors) to mod my pods and they are running at 1200MH/s with almost zero hardware errors with a power consumption of 25w~ per each measured with a kilowatt meter. power supply is a 850 silver. i don't know who got this readings but its not consuming 30+ watts. What controller are you using? I'm on hashra controla. |
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I'm really surprised no one has taken you up on this yet...this seems to be the best price per hash for the new scrypt asics...
Anyone want to do a groupbuy?
Hey blaater maybe move this to mining - hardware in the forums
I did, it got moved to this place by the moderator ;(. I register a lot of interest, but a lot of fear aswell. you need to send out a sample to a member to test, and then you will get people knocking on your door. |
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