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161  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BitBay OFFICIAL BITBAY Thread Smart Contracts Decentralized Markets Rolling Peg on: October 31, 2018, 11:49:55 AM
The market part has just been installed. But there are no offers yet. The synchronization will probably take a few more hours.

But don't think that this market solution will make the breakthrough: A remark points out that the contents of shops or their owners can be censored. - Something that the crypto world should actually overcome.
162  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: October 31, 2018, 06:37:30 AM
I've been hoping for this for months. But as a developer, he probably lives in his own world, and his mindless community, along with his incompetent marketing, also cheers him on in it. - The term "sect" is exactly right.
when he realizes your suggestions,
then you join the "sect" ?  Roll Eyes
I'm probably one of them already.
However, I still kept my mind so I can see where the bottlenecks are.
163  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: October 31, 2018, 06:11:24 AM
the team continues its great efforts in trying hard making it successful. byteball has lots of breaking technical specifications, I don't understand why all focus on the price.

The price is calculated in Fiat, and that's all they care about. Accordingly, the technical specifications of the project are also extrapolated to a possible profit in Fiat.

As means of payment bite ball is completely uninteresting for the current recognition-resistant community... unfortunately also obviously for the developer.
Of course the success (circulation and acceptance) will be a long time coming.
164  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: October 30, 2018, 10:21:07 PM
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Please don't see we must spread the word!! only from customer view.
What about with the local shops?
Spread the word includes more!
Again sounds good but merchants happy with fiat and bitcoins. They don't want to waste time on shitcoins. I know i know byterbal is not shitcoin. Sorry for breaking your bubble but coin that nobody not use and can loss 99% of the value is nothing more than shitcoin for all who are not members of this sect. So accept it, byterbal is shitcoin and merchants don't want to waste time on this.
Byterbal foundation must build solutions itself or sponsor third-party solutions. Purse for byterbal? OB for byterbal? Localbyterbals? Tony and the team must build it all itself or connect to existing solutions (if it possible). No one will come and give you this, the days of early Bitcoin are long gone.
Take it mazafackers, byterbal is not interesting to the world, to the airdrop suckers. The only who can make byterbal great again is Tony. He need to change his thinking, stop to build crappy bots, dismiss idiots who spend time retweeting their tweets, start to build solutions, find partnerships, improve scalability and distribute all witnesses.
I've been hoping for this for months. But as a developer, he probably lives in his own world, and his mindless community, along with his incompetent marketing, also cheers him on in it. - The term "sect" is exactly right.
165  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: October 30, 2018, 09:20:05 PM
This is totally true and it should be engraved in stone, since Bitcoin evangelists seem so much in denial of that.
And even worse than this, PoW mining has also resulted to be totally unsustainable from an ecological point of view. Not only the waste of resources which heavy mining implies is basically nonsense, but it even could contribute to jeopardize human life on earth by accelerating global warming until it eventually spins out of control.
And that's not only me who is saying it. Please enjoy this article on the theme on prestigious magazine Nature:

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41558-018-0321-8.epdf

Byteball is much more likely than Bitcoin to spare human life on earth from extinction.
Not that this is necessarily auspicable, of course...
My dear bobq.
Earth historically we had the most abundant flora and fauna when the poles were ice-free. - Now you may guess what the climate apocalyptics and their propaganda are interested in.
Tip: Scarcity and lack secure dominion.

So we should be happy if the Bitcoin mining makes our ice age climate a bit more life friendly.  Roll Eyes
166  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BitBay OFFICIAL BITBAY Thread Smart Contracts Decentralized Markets Rolling Peg on: October 30, 2018, 06:13:39 PM
Does the market work in the meantime?

Is there a lightwallet for laptops that doesn't require you to load the blockchain?
Does not answering these questions mean a double "no", or am I too impatient?  Smiley
167  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: October 30, 2018, 05:54:38 PM
What about with the local shops?
Pure waste of time and energy.
They already have a problem with Bitcoin. Nobody knows bite ball at all, and then still this subliminally dubious label...

* before 2020 we need more exchanges for volume and a service like bitpay for bytes.
Above all, we need a quite anonymous way to exchange Fiat directly for Bites/Blackbites. A BISQ adapted to the wallet is perfectly sufficient. - More exchanges only serve speculators.
You may want to look for markets where crypto currencies are already accepted. These markets are growing exponentially.
The Fiat market has its Visa and Paypal.

Tony should now be able to accelerate an Open Bazaar adaptation.
The concept of the open bazaar is very interesting, but it looks like a cemetery?
or i am wrong and the platform have trades?
I draw my income from it.
However, there is still a lot to improve on this platform, and that's exactly what the united developer power should focus on, then it will finally be something with the acceptance of crypto currencies.
168  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: October 30, 2018, 11:30:43 AM
Tony should now be able to accelerate an Open Bazaar adaptation.

This could also be used to control further distribution.
All sales of Bites/Blackbites will be rewarded, both for the buyer and the seller.

If necessary modifications would be possible. Open Bazaar is not really decentralized. The problem are central search providers that can censor unwanted articles.
Randomly rotating witnesses routed over TOR could take over their task.

The topic is already months old, that it is not taken up by the community is probably mainly due to the fact that the community itself is more Fiat-focused and has little interest in bite ball as a means of payment for the purchase of goods to see.

169  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: October 30, 2018, 09:24:23 AM
[...] we must spread the word!!
Yes, as soon as you can buy something for it in a suitable market.

If you go another way you accumulate the existing bite ball units only among the few believing bite ball fanboys and Fiat greedy speculators.
170  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BitBay OFFICIAL BITBAY Thread Smart Contracts Decentralized Markets Rolling Peg on: October 30, 2018, 06:47:34 AM
Does the market work in the meantime?

Is there a lightwallet for laptops that doesn't require you to load the blockchain?

The website should be available for many more languages.
171  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: October 29, 2018, 02:54:33 PM
Airdrop lottery
An official raffle could take place via a chatbot. In order not to exploit the system existing Bytes would have to be linked again. The more Bytes are linked, the more lots will be allocated. As a price, at least a relevant amount of min. 10K or better 25K USD should be distributed. I will not raise any acquaintances for a $ 100 profit.
The project should attract people who use this currency sensibly: To buy goods and services.
A lottery only causes the winner to exchange his winnings for Fiat at the best opportunity.
172  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: October 28, 2018, 10:48:15 PM
Drop the name [...]
The label is the first impression a product makes. It unconsciously produces either rejection or approval.  In connection with bite ball black bites, I have increasingly experienced the former.
Later enquiries resulted in "no trust". Of course, none of them has been more closely involved with the project. The first impression (label) was negative.
Alternative suggestions on the part of the customers were Litecoin and Monero.

A suitable label in connection with the possibility to get the currency (bites/black bites) directly in exchange for Fiat (=> BISQ) would surely please some customers very much.
Of course there has to be a market platform that accepts this currency.

173  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: October 28, 2018, 06:45:28 PM
What is needed first, a currency or a market?

There is already a market for Fiat. For Cryptos it has yet to be created. Therefore the various developers should concentrate on it and cooperate accordingly (there is still a lot to improve on Open Bazaar...or maybe something completely different).

As soon as there is a market acceptance, demand and circulation of the currency increase.
And only then does scaling become relevant. Why waste valuable development time now?

But the reality is different: There are hundreds of cryptos that cannot be used except for speculation.
174  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: October 28, 2018, 12:23:48 PM
The name of the project should be the same as the name of the currency units.

Bits and Bytes are already defined. Using it as a currency is confusing.
175  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: October 28, 2018, 11:13:46 AM
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a new brand and visual identity
Don't do it! I know there was a paid company against byterbal to get the team to focus on branding and marketing instead of improving scaling and solving the distribution of coins and witnesses. Sad to see how they managed to achieve all their goals Cry
1.) A suitable label, together with logo. Proper designation for the currency units (no Bites/Blackbites).

2.) Increase use and circulation
2.a.) Change Fiat <=> Bites/Blackbites (BISQ)
2.b.) Integration in Open Bazaar (or similar)
2.c.) Discount to Open Bazaar customers (distribution)

3. Unlimited number of witnesses who route over Tor/I2P and are randomly assigned.

4. Scaling
176  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: October 28, 2018, 07:32:23 AM
"Byteball has an awesome platform under continuous development, but there are people that believe the project would benefit significantly from a new brand and visual identity.

We have spent considerable time engaging with several branding and naming agencies during the past few months, and we are very close to signing a contract. Head of Strategy, Valerius Coppens is in charge of the project."


Gleam of hope... but only a small...

"Introducing Smart Vouchers
[...]
We are optimistic that with time this distribution could grow the network substantially."


Since it makes sense to distribute a value to people who don't use it but exchange it for Fiat at the next opportunity... if that hasn't been forgotten until then and the values disappear in nirvana.  Roll Eyes
177  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: October 27, 2018, 05:52:41 AM
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...Incidentally, Byteball moves in the opposite direction.

Can you explain what you mean by that? I can't see how this statement is accurate.

Byteball started in centralized state and now moving to decentralize.

Exactly: "Why the hell should I care about your objections. My word is law."
 Roll Eyes
178  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: October 26, 2018, 04:00:34 PM
How can one prevent the state power from simply eliminating the witnesses?
the community at large will decide to replace that particular witness address for someone else's.

hmm Rogier Eijkelhof 5% support... Community can't cooperate to replace witnesses Sad

That is quite clear. A witness is as bad or as good as any other. One can also stay where one is.

If bite ball were a company that first has to earn its money instead of simply "printing" it itself, it would already be broke.

The bite ball dictatorship ticks however completely special. According to their agenda the user has to follow the given ideas. Criticism is either ignored or embellished.
Oh, not to forget some fanboys who also cheer this attitude on.
179  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: October 26, 2018, 01:02:19 PM
Twitter message of another Crypto Currency:
"Centralized businesses and governments tend to have interests that are in conflict with the individual. Here at [xxx], we fight against that. Read more here: [xxx]

THIS is marketing, and also reaches the right target group.

Bite ball, on the other hand, develops in the opposite direction: KYC is the Holy Grail here.
180  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: October 26, 2018, 11:19:37 AM
How can one prevent the state power from simply eliminating the witnesses?
The network would very rapidly notice whenever a witness stops posting units. Since witnesses are publicly known, they can be contacted, and if no satisfactory explanation is given (or the problem is not solved) the community at large will decide to replace that particular witness address for someone else's.

So no matter what the state power does, or a hacker, or just a witness turned malicious by himself, Byteball is not vulnerable.

So in that sense I'd argue we don't even have to "trust" these witnesses.
I see it from the perspective of a simple consumer. He certainly does not feel assigned to any "community". He expects his money to be safe and transactions to be handled reliably. If his witness (presumably the one who is preset after downloading the app) fails, he probably doesn't even notice it consciously. Result: nothing works anymore => panic.

A concept of randomly rotating anonymous witnesses who would route their technique over Tor/i2p would be much more convincing and above all safer. Especially as EVERYONE can be a witness to this. To get a permission from the dictator before would not be necessary at all. - That would be real decentralization.

Bite ball started out very promising, but the really important developments will be neglected.
Months ago I stopped my efforts to bring this project forward. One does not make friends with his customers.
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