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161  Local / Altcoins (criptomonedas alternativas) / Re: Bitcoin XT on: August 22, 2015, 01:06:24 AM
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162  Local / Altcoins (criptomonedas alternativas) / Re: Bitcoin XT on: August 22, 2015, 12:47:04 AM
En mi opinión, si bitcoinXT, una Shitcoin en toda regla, triunfa, habremos fracasado. En este caso, bitcoinXT matará a Bitcoin.

No puedo estar más en desacuerdo.
163  Local / Altcoins (criptomonedas alternativas) / Re: Bitcoin XT on: August 21, 2015, 06:33:23 PM

Voy a seguir tu consejo de no creerme nada de lo que me cuentan, fuente?? ( En Btctalk el hilo sigue en su sitio.)



Aquí tienes la fuente y él mismo lo confirma Wink

https://www.reddit.com/r/bitcoin_uncensored/comments/3hnf45/adam_b_levine_banned_from_rbitcoin/
164  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: AntPool, BTCChina Pool, 21 Inc., BW Pool and KNCMiner support 8MB on: August 21, 2015, 06:28:50 PM
I really have 200mbps upload speed. And it's just a commercial ISP with a cheap and flat price, and I'm not from USA. And I have not doubt we are going to see soon much faster speeds with the new technologies: http://www.androidauthority.com/5g-network-speed-20-gbps-618192/

5G will be defined as a network “capable of transmitting data at up to 20 gigabits-per-second”

The exception that breaks the rule being applied to an international decentralized currency , huh?

When and if that reality happens we can revisit its implications on bitcoin. Until than it doesn't follow past historical trends as outlined by BiP 103 and thus we should be skeptical about the advertised possibilities that the future entails. That is what is sensible and rational. I have no doubt there will be certain unique cities that have high speed fiber optic connections and 5G but the concern is node count decreasing to these certain locations only instead of increasing everywhere. This infrastructure may roll out with the next 4-6 years in large metropolitan cities but will take much longer elsewhere.



And what about the race for hight-speed Internet Satellite? SpaceX, Airbus...

I'm sure they could help the other part of the world.
165  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: AntPool, BTCChina Pool, 21 Inc., BW Pool and KNCMiner support 8MB on: August 21, 2015, 06:04:52 PM
I have today 200mpbs upload speed. 10 years ago I had 56kbps.

First of all, it isn't just about you but about the rest of the world as well and the diversity of node count.

Secondly, I seriously doubt you have 200 Mbps persistent upload speed. The US typically averages about ~8Mbps upload and many parts of the world people are limited to 0.5 to 1 Mbps upload. A couple of the devs would have to drop their nodes as an example with Gavin's proposal.

Advertised peak upload speed does not equal reality.



I really have 200mbps upload speed. And it's just a commercial ISP with a cheap and flat price, and I'm not from USA. And I have not doubt we are going to see soon much faster speeds with the new technologies: http://www.androidauthority.com/5g-network-speed-20-gbps-618192/

5G will be defined as a network “capable of transmitting data at up to 20 gigabits-per-second”
166  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: AntPool, BTCChina Pool, 21 Inc., BW Pool and KNCMiner support 8MB on: August 21, 2015, 05:27:55 PM
Wrong. It is more about the network bandwidth than about storage (even though we are reaching the maximum with the current technology). The increase has started to slow down over the last few years. The problem is persistent in developing countries.

Mmmm.... NO. That's the problem, they see an scarce future, and I'm not agree at all with that predictions.

http://www.v3.co.uk/v3-uk/news/2396249/exclusive-university-of-surrey-achieves-5g-speeds-of-1tbps
167  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: AntPool, BTCChina Pool, 21 Inc., BW Pool and KNCMiner support 8MB on: August 21, 2015, 05:24:20 PM
10 years ago, the average hdd was 1GB of capacity, today is close to 1TB! How can he proposes a 4MB limit in 10 years? Where is the logic for that?

The concerns of most devs has nothing to do with hard drive space but propagation time, bandwidth limits(especially upload) and mempool problems created by larger blocks.

I have today 200mpbs upload speed. 10 years ago I had 56kbps.
168  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: AntPool, BTCChina Pool, 21 Inc., BW Pool and KNCMiner support 8MB on: August 21, 2015, 03:53:27 PM
Exactly what is wrong with that? The developers decided to make a company to profit via something that they're going to build on top of Bitcoin. Are you trying to tell me that if you were in their position, that you would not try to do the same?  Roll Eyes
They will increase the block size limit, they just have to reach consensus in regards to how much and when.

What is wrong with that?  That company could force Bitcoin development to advantage themselves!!

"They will increase the block size limit"

Let's see. I have readed LUKEJR saying that the first priority is Lightning, not the block limit. ADAM BACK saying that not every transaction should be on the blockchain or will be collapsing the whole Internet. PETER TODD saying that blockhains doesn't scale well. And SZABO proposing 4mb blocks for 2025!

10 years ago, the average hdd was 1GB of capacity, today is close to 1TB! How can he proposes a 4MB limit in 10 years? Where is the logic for that?

169  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: AntPool, BTCChina Pool, 21 Inc., BW Pool and KNCMiner support 8MB on: August 21, 2015, 03:41:36 PM
Btw, Antpool has said that they are reasy to switch to XT: https://twitter.com/JihanWu
See, you're doing it again. Taking things out of context. They put a big IF in that sentence:"IF we see majority has switched.". Obviously they are simply stating if the majority switches then they will to (logic, else they'd be behind). That statement has no words of support in regards to XT.

They only implementation right now supporting 8mb (BIP101) is XT. If Core doesn't implement it, they will go to XT.
Wrong. I support bigger blocks (maybe even 8 MB), but I will never go XT (take this as an example).
Also: Supporting 8 MB blocks =/= supporting BIP 101.
People simplify this too much. While someone might support 8 MB blocks, they might not support the additional increases that BIP 101 contains (they are unsustainable).



There is no immediate need for larger blocks.
Most people do not realize this and think that their opinion is the absolute correct one. Dunning–Kruger effect shines bright around here.

I sencerely don't like Core in the last time, where a sifnificant number of devs are working or presiding a company for profit, a company that will be probably favored if the limit does not scale.

If the majority switch, you will have to do it also. If not, at least XT will push to solve this issue earlier. Come on, we can't continue otheres 24 months speaking about the same...
170  Local / Altcoins (criptomonedas alternativas) / Re: Bitcoin XT on: August 21, 2015, 03:30:12 PM

A partir de ahí es todo pura y dura abducción Gaviniana por parte de este buen señor...

Se queja de la centralización en una sola persona ( theymos) de los dos foros de opinión mas importantes del mundo Bitcoin pero parece no querer ver la también centralización en una sola persona ( Gavin) como promotor del inminente futuro del desarrollo de la tecnología mas revolucionaria de este siglo, Bitcoin.


¿Recuerdas que Gavin cedió su poder en Bitcoin Core a Wladimir no? Eso choca bastante con la teoría de que Gavin lo hace por poder.

Por cierto, no sé si lo has comentado. Pero dicho moderador fue baneado de r/bitcoin ipsofacto por colgar el comentario.
171  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: AntPool, BTCChina Pool, 21 Inc., BW Pool and KNCMiner support 8MB on: August 21, 2015, 03:24:01 PM
Yeah, it was better that I realized on time that I would say this another few thousand times.
Supporting block size increase =/= supporting XT
Supporting 8 MB blocks (or BIP 101) =/= supporting XT

Unless they state we support 8 MB blocks in addition to XT, then you're taking things out of context for the sake of this tiring political battle between Core and XT.

They only implementation right now supporting 8mb (BIP101) is XT. If Core doesn't implement it, they will go to XT.

Btw, Antpool has said that they are reasy to switch to XT: https://twitter.com/JihanWu
172  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: AntPool, BTCChina Pool, 21 Inc., BW Pool and KNCMiner support 8MB on: August 21, 2015, 03:19:58 PM
f2pool signed for 8mb support, so they will accept soon I suppose.

http://www.8btc.com/blocksize-increase-2
173  Local / Altcoins (criptomonedas alternativas) / Re: Sobre la conveniencia o no de hacer un Hard Fork on: August 21, 2015, 03:15:03 PM
Si Bitcoin XT se impone sobre Bitcoin Core en potencia de minado superior a un 75%, nadie va a seguir minando Core. Como suele pasar en estos "tonto el último" en cambiarse a la cadena principal, porque estará perdiendo dinero.
174  Local / Altcoins (criptomonedas alternativas) / Re: Bitcoin XT on: August 20, 2015, 08:57:22 PM
Lo que kano está ignorando es que el parche no toca la línea:

Code:
                  else if (nInbound >= nMaxConnections - MAX_OUTBOUND_CONNECTIONS) 

Es decir, el código que desconecta nodos solo es efectivo cuando el nodo ya está lleno de conexiones y le entra una nueva. Tal como MH describe.

Excelente característica para una nueva altcoin.

¿Prefieres que los full nodes de Bitcoin sigan siendo vulnerables a ataques DoS anónimos?

No, prefiero que todos los devs estén de acuerdo para cualquier cambio.

Ya se ha visto durante los últimos meses que eso no es posible.
175  Local / Altcoins (criptomonedas alternativas) / Re: Bitcoin XT on: August 20, 2015, 08:19:33 PM
Lo que kano está ignorando es que el parche no toca la línea:

Code:
                  else if (nInbound >= nMaxConnections - MAX_OUTBOUND_CONNECTIONS) 

Es decir, el código que desconecta nodos solo es efectivo cuando el nodo ya está lleno de conexiones y le entra una nueva. Tal como MH describe.

Excelente característica para una nueva altcoin.

¿Prefieres que los full nodes de Bitcoin sigan siendo vulnerables a ataques DoS anónimos?
176  Local / Altcoins (criptomonedas alternativas) / Re: Bitcoin XT on: August 19, 2015, 07:40:11 PM
Precio al suelo y mas madera al fuego... bravo Gavin. Roll Eyes

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1156489.0  

Vamos, que lo del tamaño del bloque es tontería. Roll Eyes


P.D.: Compañero dserrano5, cuando tu quieras, yo estoy listo ( ahora si).  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1156489.msg12181691#msg12181691

Igual deberías informarte un poco, en vez de creerte lo primero que lees.

Esta implementación lo que proporciona a los nodos es la posibilidad de defenderse frente a un ataque DoS, y es una posiblidad voluntaria, porque puede ser desactivado con un simple comando en la consonla.



177  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin XT has code which downloads your IP address to facilitate blacklisting on: August 19, 2015, 06:30:44 PM
From where is coming all this FUD about XT?

178  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XCR] Crypti | DPoS | 100% own code | Dapps | Sidechains | Dapp Store on: August 05, 2015, 09:37:21 AM
I've been reading up on MaidSafe, they are building something similar to what Crypti is doing (Dapps) named SAFE Network. The SAFE network would be a platform for apps and programs that could be accesses by the network users. In their system docs paper they state:

Quote
Here are some examples of the type of apps that can be used on the SAFE Network.
  • Cloud storage
  • Encrypted messaging
  • Web sites
  • VoIP
  • Social networks
  • Distributed databases
  • Document or contract signing
  • Any existing service that runs on the Internet

It's become a race to whoever gets there first, gets all the fame. There's also Ethereum with their millions of dollars who are planning the same thing.




Maidsafe is much bigger and ambitious than anything else. Maidsafe has been in development for 9 years now, you can't compare Maidsafe with Crypti. Maidsafe is older than Bitcoin, and a totally different project, is a new network and a new form of transmit data Wink

Maidsafe don't use a blockchain, but you can create unlimited blockchains on it if you need one, you can create and store any kind of data that you can imagine.

Maidsafe is gonna change the world. Forever. The next week they will deliver the first installer for Windows, Linux and MAC. Get ready.

https://forum.safenetwork.io/

I'm watching Crypti development anyways since the first day, it's an interesting project.

Oh my, nine years in development. Didn't know that.. That's hard to believe..

I wonder, if it's in development for 9 years. Why are the first installers come now, not years ago? There are ALWAYS unexpected events at launch delaying it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hofstadter%27s_law

We saw this with Crypti, we will see it with Ethereum and with Maidsafe as well.

entertainment, you seem like a proficient person with Maidsafe. Would you be willing to tell me more via Skype? Smiley


It could be of course some delays, but they are working with very accurate sprints now. Here is the last update, from yesterday: https://forum.safenetwork.io/t/maidsafe-dev-update-3rd-august-2015/4643/5

If you want to know more about Maidsafe you can read one of their main papers, it's old, some things have changed, safecoin it was just a sketch on this paper, but the main idea is still the same: http://bitcoinlibrary.org/handle/21/687
The docs are also a great way to start: http://systemdocs.maidsafe.net/content/en/index.html

I don't really use any conference software. We can talk in Telegram if you want.

Regards.
179  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XCR] Crypti | DPoS | 100% own code | Dapps | Sidechains | Dapp Store on: August 05, 2015, 09:32:10 AM
I've been reading up on MaidSafe, they are building something similar to what Crypti is doing (Dapps) named SAFE Network. The SAFE network would be a platform for apps and programs that could be accesses by the network users. In their system docs paper they state:

Quote
Here are some examples of the type of apps that can be used on the SAFE Network.
  • Cloud storage
  • Encrypted messaging
  • Web sites
  • VoIP
  • Social networks
  • Distributed databases
  • Document or contract signing
  • Any existing service that runs on the Internet

It's become a race to whoever gets there first, gets all the fame. There's also Ethereum with their millions of dollars who are planning the same thing.




Maidsafe is much bigger and ambitious than anything else. Maidsafe has been in development for 9 years now, you can't compare Maidsafe with Crypti. Maidsafe is older than Bitcoin, and a totally different project, is a new network and a new form of transmit data Wink

Maidsafe don't use a blockchain, but you can create unlimited blockchains on it if you need one, you can create and store any kind of data that you can imagine.

Maidsafe is gonna change the world. Forever. The next week they will deliver the first installer for Windows, Linux and MAC. Get ready.

https://forum.safenetwork.io/

I'm watching Crypti development anyways since the first day, it's an interesting project.

Oh my, nine years in development. Didn't know that.. That's hard to believe..

You can see in this patent that the original date is December 2006 https://www.google.com/patents/US20100064354  Wink
180  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XCR] Crypti | DPoS | 100% own code | Dapps | Sidechains | Dapp Store on: August 04, 2015, 10:20:07 PM
I've been reading up on MaidSafe, they are building something similar to what Crypti is doing (Dapps) named SAFE Network. The SAFE network would be a platform for apps and programs that could be accesses by the network users. In their system docs paper they state:

Quote
Here are some examples of the type of apps that can be used on the SAFE Network.
  • Cloud storage
  • Encrypted messaging
  • Web sites
  • VoIP
  • Social networks
  • Distributed databases
  • Document or contract signing
  • Any existing service that runs on the Internet

It's become a race to whoever gets there first, gets all the fame. There's also Ethereum with their millions of dollars who are planning the same thing.




Maidsafe is much bigger and ambitious than anything else. Maidsafe has been in development for 9 years now, you can't compare Maidsafe with Crypti. Maidsafe is older than Bitcoin, and a totally different project, is a new network and a new form of transmit data Wink

Maidsafe don't use a blockchain, but you can create unlimited blockchains on it if you need one, you can create and store any kind of data that you can imagine.

Maidsafe is gonna change the world. Forever. The next week they will deliver the first installer for Windows, Linux and MAC. Get ready.

https://forum.safenetwork.io/

I'm watching Crypti development anyways since the first day, it's an interesting project.
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