You can convert the electricity to heat but the electrons themselves are not heat. You must go again to school and learn the real physics. "I believe that all mathematical physicists should be hanged from the highest trees and telephone poles available. If the laws forbid this, or it messes up the landscape, then we should institutionalize the whole lot of them. But keep in mind that there aren't enough funny farms to hold so many idiots. I'm so upset that relativists hold the reins of power that I think that I'll just go and read the newspaper to cool off..." "Bill Gaede" Source: http://www.youstupidrelativist.com/You mean the mathematical physics that make possible the device you are using to spout nonsense? I understand the math that makes the pnp, or npn junctions possible in your cpu, but this math is wrong? ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) You can't convert things to heat, heat is a process not a state. You don't increase the heat of something, this is non-sensical, literally it doesn't make sense. You can increase the kinetic energy of the particles, or the potential energy of the electrons through a process called heating. Compressing a gas increases its temperature, you haven't heated it, why? Transferring a fluid from one area to another doesn't create fluid, it simple moves it. Heat is the transfer of energy, it is not energy. The energy itself is thermal energy, which in part is the quantum energy levels of the bound electrons. At absolute zero, the electrons collapse to the lowest energy levels and fill their shells. You are confused, uneducated and wrong. I have an MSc in applied physics with emphasis in solid state. You?
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How many people have caught aids from money?
It's in the thousands or tens of thousands ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) None actually, aids can't survive long without human body.. we were both being sarcastic
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How many people have caught aids from money?
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i would just buy a bunch of safe stocks.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OxymoronFull Definition of UNCOMMON 1 : not ordinarily encountered : unusual <an uncommon plant> 2 : remarkable, exceptional <a soldier of uncommon courage> — un·com·mon·ly adverb — un·com·mon·ness noun
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I have some old books, early 1800's, 1700's, science and natural philosophy, they are worth a few thousand. This is my favourite, I have this exact edition. http://www.rookebooks.com/product?prod_id=23332Mine has an inscription from 1857. wow that's a really nice book! If I had the know how (and the money) I would definitely want to collect some books with that kind of romantic natural history. What kind of prints are those? I used to have a few art nouveau styled books with nice illustrations from early 20th century, nothing like your books but still fun to look at. No idea what happened to them though.. ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) I'll have to look it up again, but they are pressed engravings of some kind. You can feel the ink ridges with your finger. I found them here. http://www.abebooks.com/book-search/author/oliver-goldsmith/pics/sortby/1/n/200000038/Turned out the seller was in the next town over so I got to see his collection, he had an a copy of Erasmus' In praise of folly. I was allowed to look briefly. Looked just like this. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Flibrary.missouri.edu%2Fscriptamanent%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2Fsites%2F11%2F2011%2F03%2FPA_8514_E5_1709_001.jpg&t=663&c=6GTy0_r4d6oAsw)
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My banks (plural) have flat out stole from me, lost my money, seized my accounts for their errors and closed my accounts for their errors.
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I have some old books, early 1800's, 1700's, science and natural philosophy, they are worth a few thousand. This is my favourite, I have this exact edition. http://www.rookebooks.com/product?prod_id=23332Mine has an inscription from 1857.
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Choline bitartrate, 3 grams and you wont want to wake up. It must add 20 IQ for a few hours. I can wake up from a dream and go right back to it at will. Only lasts about a month then I need a good 6 months off to restore potency. http://purebulk.com/choline-bitartrate-powder/
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Please talk to a psychiatrist, you seem to have very severe depression if you hate living on this planet. Not even being Sarcastic.
Back to the topic, the science of evolution is based on observation. We have made organisms evolve in a lab right before our eyes. Dog breeding works the same except with humans deciding which traits to keep instead of nature. We can observe our common ancestors by looking at the body compared to other primates. While the fossil record is not complete, what we have so far points to evolution.
I don't believe in spiderman because there are fans of his enemies, that is pretty much the logic you're going on for saying satanism proves it. Same with saying gods word proves it, says so right there in the comic that he is real!
I love the beauty of God's creation that I see all around me. I love the people that I am thankful to have relationships with. I love the people that speak with on these boards, even if they hate me and say I need a psychiatrist. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) But I also see the misery of life and the hate (due to Satan's influence) that causes people to kill, steal and destroy. There is evil all around us. You must be marvelously blessed to have avoided the sufferings that are common to man? Seriously. We all deal with death, pain, sickness and so on. This is not how God intended for us to live. It is part of the fact we live in a fallen and not perfect world, one that eventually He will make right again. Dog breeding produces dogs right? Has anyone bred a dog to become a cat? Until I can see changes from one kind into another kind I will not believe in evolution. There have been adaptations but these adaptations are not proof of evolution from one kind into another. We as humans have more in common with dogs than apes so looking at the physical bodies to make comparisons is not enough. You don't have to agree with me. You don't have to believe in God. That is the amazing thing about "free will." I am just trying to encourage a few people on here to think about the risks of not believing. If something is true then it doesn't matter if I believe it or you believe it or if any of us believes it. If God's word is true then we will all be accountable to it. My point about "satanism" was just an interesting fact. There is no other religion that has an "anti-religion" formed to fight it. It was not proof by any means. I just figured it was an interesting thought that should at least cause us to pause and think for a minute. You pretty much just admitted that evolution exists. Macro evolution (changing species) is nothing more than micro evolution (changing traits) over a long period of time, to the point that one is not able to breed with another, and you have a new species just like that. Think about domesticated dogs vs wolves and how different they are. Over time they will become more and more different, to the point that they are no longer able to mate (this would be if they were in the wild, doesn't really apply since pets aren't going to be subjected to survival of the fittest but irrelevant to the example). At this point you have a new species. For the record I don't hate you, you really did sound depressed Macro and Micro evolution are very different! We have not seen evidence of macro evolution (changes of a fish to a dog for example). The solution that evolutionary scientists give is just to throw "millions of years" into the equation so that they can rationalize that it took that long to happen. (still not long enough) If the changes that occur cause differences that make it so the species cannot mate isn't that an evolutionary problem in itself? Creationists completely agree with "micro evolution" because it is simply adaptations or changing of traits within a species. It is such a huge jump from changes within a species to changes outside of a species though, one that has no fossil record or evidence to support whatsoever. You are completely wrong. The process of a new species being formed is (using the wolf example) Due to something, wolves are separated into A and B and unable to reach eachother. Group B is in a different climate than group A Both groups breed over a long period of time and evolution makes them adapt to their surroundings Over a long enough period, the changes are so great that if group A and B met, their different features would make them unable to mate. This could be from different mating periods/rituals, physical changes, etc The dog and wolf example wasn't the best as I forgot to throw isolation in there, but same basic idea. This response provides an alternative view to the typically-proposed false dichotomy of Evolution vs. God: I've always been fascinated by interpretations of data associated with evolution. Accordingly, I have two main points I'd like to add, one of which focuses on the data itself, and the other focuses on a priori philosophical knowledge, i.e. knowledge that is evident independent of any evidence. An example of such knowledge is the law of identity, i.e. x = x. Because of this knowledge, we know right off the bat that we don't need to go searching for something that is not itself because we know a priori that it's a logical impossibility. 1) In consideration of the overwhelming body of evidence collected in support of Modern Evolutionary Theory, I'd like to point out that there exists other, equally-plausible interpretations of the same data set that lead to different theoretical conclusions. For example, it is valid to conclude that the data suggest that the evolution of conscious states leads to evolved physical states; in contrast, modern evolutionary theory concludes that evolved physical states lead to evolved conscious states. These are what we call "mathematically uncertain" theories because it is uncertain which theory is 'more correct.' Mathematically uncertain theories are constantly overlooked as the vast majority of people -- even those with advanced educations -- lack the awareness that mathematically uncertain theories exist. To this end, we must either find new evidence to help distinguish between multiple equally-valid theories, or find flaws in either our methodology for interpreting and explaining the data. This brings me to my second point... 2) As mentioned previously, a priori knowledge -- which is real and should not be outright discredited because it does not rely on empirical observation -- helps us to know certain things in advance so that we don't waste our time exploring ideas that are logically impossible. If it weren't for this sort of knowledge, it would be impossible to devise the scientific method in the first place. Right from the get go, science carries certain assumptions based upon a priori knowledge. A fundamental example would be the knowledge that observation must be the basis for any and all empirical study; we did not need any empirical study or evidence to reach this conclusion. Accordingly, we can look to see what types of a priori knowledge might be useful in helping to guide our interpretation of the evolutionary data set. In my opinion, one of the most fundamental logical principles is the sameness-in-difference principle, which simply put is the idea that differences necessarily arise from similarities. Put in more complex terms, it means that any two relational entities A and B must share a common, relational medium. Therefore, it is impossible for any entity to be absolutely different from any other; to state that A and B are absolutely different is to reinforce their similarities by binding them together such that, at the very least, they share a common medium of absolute difference . If two things actually could be absolutely different from each other, then it would be impossible talk about them in the same sentence. Descartes, though obviously an intelligent fellow, overlooked this error when proposing his idea of Cartesian Dualism. He attempted to place an insurmountable barrier between physical and mental reality, thereby violating the sameness-in-difference principle of logic. Science abides by this split since it assumes a Positivistic Universe does not, will not, and can never be influenced by observation itself to any significant degree. The implications of such a principle are vast as they speak to the core nature of all entities. Perhaps most notably, it points to a shared relationship between mental and physical reality. This is important because it allows room for talk about things such as Universal Consciousness (God?) and an inherently meaningful Universe. I'd also point out that there is a case to be made for a Universe that relies more on the abstract rather than the physical. Observation by itself employs a metric (a standard of measurement) which allows us to distinguish between the things we want to study and examine through empiricism. Without this metric, it would be impossible to define *any*thing. Scientists talk about the Universe as if it could be described if all conscious agents were removed from it. Unfortunately, they forget that without any conscious agents it would be impossible to define the Universe and all entities contained therein. Accordingly, anybody who tries to tell you anything about what the Universe would or could be like if all conscious agents were removed is wasting their time; it's simply impossible to say *any*thing about such a Universe. I would only add to this wonderful post a distinction between logically possible and demonstrably possible. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logical_possibility
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do you guys shave off your pubes?
Sometimes. Why? Why? I rarely, if ever, get head. FTFY
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So all that said, you believe we can choose our own God, or not choose God. There is no absolute truth, we just decide our own truth and because of that I can believe whatever I want and so can you and the goal is just to live a good and decent life for the most part?
Yes, that's the same thing you're doing, I just don't have a magic book to back it up. With the exception of "choosing" what to believe? Did you choose to believe in god? Probably not, you just do because that's what you believe. I'm the same way. I didn't choose not to believe in god. I just don't because that's what I believe. I guess the thing that shocks me the most is that people really don't care about life after death. They are not concerned about the afterlife at all. To me, eternity is the most important thing we need to consider. This life is very short. Each day I wake up well aware that it could be my last day on earth. I try to live my life with that in mind.
If I don't believe in an afterlife, why would I spend any time thinking about it or caring about it. YOU believe in an afterlife. That's your belief. If I believed in the Flying Spaghetti Monster as my god, and all his teachings, I'd be trying to convince you to also believe in him because it would be the only way to salvation. You would look at me the same way I am looking at you. Why would I care about the Flying Spaghetti Monster afterlife, that's obviously not true. That's how I view your version of the afterlife. It's not true to you. It's true to me. What's true to you is not to me. Neither of us can prove the other wrong. I'm not asking you to change your beliefs, just asking you don't force them on people who don't want to live by the rules of your religion. Your beliefs are not more important or more correct than someone else's. You don't have a right to force other people to act the way you want them to. That's my most important point in this thread. I'm fine with Christians and Muslims and Jews or any other religion that wants to believe anything they want, so long as they don't try to make anyone else live a life subject to their religious rules who doesn't want to. Of course I can't force anyone to believe what they don't want to. I totally get that. But the question seems to be more about "absolute truth" more than anything. So you are saying that you would rather live life with a carefree attitude and if you die and realize only at that point that there is indeed a God and that there is Heaven and Hell and that you are sent to Hell because you chose to a) ignore warnings b) didn't want to believe in God c) didn't think religious rules were cool d) didn't have time to worry about it (and so on) then you will be fine with God saying "depart from me, I never knew you" and then you will suffer for eternity?Just trying to make sure. Again, just because you don't believe something isn't true, doesn't make it untrue. I can close my eyes while it is raining and say, "I don't like rain. I don't believe in rain. Rain doesn't exist" but I will still be pelted with raindrops. The same thing goes for the laws God has made. When you die and stand before God I would just be concerned that your reasoning of "I didn't believe You were real" won't be a good enough excuse to give you a free pass. Pascal's wager, of the hundreds of religions/mythologies that have/will exist, we're supposed to believe that christianity is the right one. I'd rather go through living the life I know I have to the best then spend it worshiping something that there is no proof of existing for a 1 in 100+ chance of having a kickass afterlife Your god is an egotistical psychopath by the way if he sends you to burn for eternity for not believing in him when he refused to prove himself Then you will have your wish. You will be separated from Him for eternity. He respects your wishes. As for God refusing to prove Himself. Have you asked Him to? That is a prayer He usually answers from what I have observed. God gives everything that is good in this life. God is love, joy, peace and every good and perfect gift comes from Him. Even sex is a gift from God (misused and abused often). Even wealth is a blessing from God (also misused). The things that are not from God are hate, death, sickness, murder, basically all sin. These things came when sin entered the world. Eternity without God is a world without love, joy, peace, kindness. Personally, I am forever grateful that God loved me enough to give me not only good gifts on this earth but a hope of heaven even though I don't deserve it (and no one deserves heaven because we have all sinned and fallen short of God's laws). If you actually knew your religion you would know that hell and Satan are more modern contrivances added during the first millennia and then propagated via selective translation. If you study even further you would see that your theology borrows heavily from the greek theogony, and futher back babylonian and eventually sumerian. Complete will all the fantasies such as the virgin birth, flood mythos. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polytheism#Historical_polytheismHellenistic religion may still be regarded as polytheistic, but with strong monistic components, and monotheism finally emerges from Hellenistic traditions in Late Antiquity in the form of Neoplatonism and Christian theology.
You could even say Christianity evolved ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mcquaid.org%2Fuploaded%2Ffaculty%2Fmkilbridge%2FHebrew_Bible%2F1_%2FChristianity_Family_Tree_cartoon.jpg&t=663&c=LQExo-QjnuA7KA) You also didn't address any of my physics questions. You claim you don't know everything, does that imply you know nothing? Cutting and pasting links is not knowledge. I am not only well versed in the physical sciences, but I am also well versed in mythology, philosophy and ancient religions all to a much greater extent than you appear to be. Address my questions or admit complete ignorance.
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On the contrary, we think this is the only chance we have so why would we want to screw it up?
Q.E.D.
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Sent my 80 year old grandparents, who'd never left the country, to England for two weeks to watch horse racing at Ascot with the Queen. My grandmother died the next year.
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Shouldn't we find a global layer of mineral deposits correspondent to flooding? ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) Yes. And we do. On every continent are found layers of sedimentary rocks over vast areas. Many of these sediment layers can be traced all the way across continents, and even between continents. Furthermore, when geologists look closely at these rocks, they find evidence that the sediments were deposited rapidly. You realize you're quoting science for the justification of your answer? Science that you previously have been railing against as unreliable and incapable of giving us objective truth? You can't have it both ways. I have no problem with science! In fact, observable science confirms that there was intelligent design in every living thing to the smallest of atoms. What I have a problem with is what is masquerading as science today, theories of how the earth supposedly came to be and now being taught as fact. That is a huge problem. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bestbiblescience.org%2Fgif%2Fcartoon.gif&t=663&c=rew_I2wXrtY23A) YOU HAVE NO UNDERSTANDING OF SCIENCE! How can a person who is as ignorant as you are on a subject, claim to understand it enough to form an opinion. What are your thoughts about the born interpretation of quantum mechanics? Do you think k-space is a suitable model for quantum energy states in Silicon semiconductors, considering the asymmetrical band formations? Or really simple, since you claim formation of planetary bodies is made up nonsense... Prove that kepler's laws are a consequence of conservation of angular momentum or how to resolve the asymptotic nature of the inverse square law using the dirac delta. You surely are able to equally discuss all topics you are uninformed about. You see, you are so ignorant, you don't even know how ignorant you are. You, quite literally, have no idea how deep the rabbit hole goes.
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Its a fucking car.
I have an unmolested 69 mustang. I can't exactly go buy a new one, even similar ones are hard to locate. With drum brakes on each corner, bathtub like handling and 400 hp, my gf still mostly drives it and there have been a few close calls.
And yes the more we drive it the more scratches it gets..big deal, that's what paint is for.
I call bs on this. I bet you are nervous as a kitten when she drives and you hate every minute ... lol. You hate every scratch and dent she's put on your baby but you are too " ...... whipped" to say anything. LOL where did i say i wasn't nervous, yes im whipped thats why i bought it for her birthday present?? ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) The day I bought it, notice the 2011 on the permit. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F4J7V71V.jpg&t=663&c=mVYm3RBU3G6bNg) Any more questions idiot? Get back to your hot wheels
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Its a fucking car.
I have an unmolested 69 mustang. I can't exactly go buy a new one, even similar ones are hard to locate. With drum brakes on each corner, bathtub like handling and 400 hp, my gf still mostly drives it and there have been a few close calls.
And yes the more we drive it the more scratches it gets..big deal, that's what paint is for.
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