Gimme your login credentials and I'll help you   I wouldn't suggest it.  |
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Nobody likes you, funruiner.
Nothing new. |
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Looks like a joke to me since I was not aware of it.
Flagging for a mod.
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No. Has this problem been resolved?
You said it was resolved. And it was 2.4690 9 September 2013 (when I've got my shares - not your merit).
and PM sent:« Sent to: Vezunchik on: September 05, 2013, 10:41:53 PM » A forum mod can verify. Please tell me, have you got request to transfer 262 shares from Vezunchik account (from BitFunder) to me? 19bfaunL2LB7v3KKmVtK5WbWbEZGVyvTGo Thank you. Please tell me, have you got request to transfer 262 shares from Vezunchik on BitFunder? Thank you. The transfer has been sent of to FriedCat.
If you would be so kind to remove the rating from me, as I have done my part. Now it is up to Ukyo and Friedcat.
//DeaDTerra
Hi all, The transferring is done. Thanks. Best regards, friedcat Stop trolling. |
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Well - look at this. As you can see - there was no word about this shares when I told Ukyo about account lock and strange password reset request from third party (And no information about IP from which that requests was done). And now he suddenly remembers that some shares were stolen (what amount?). If I did a scam there must be any answer in my fraud thread or PM to moderators in time I think... All this charges looks strange and untimely. Ukyo, any developments on this? Why not just post the logs? If he did scam, we let the Admins know to start the scammer process on this. Many are deciding where to send our AM shares so there are several folks watching this thread.
"I saw what you did there" So argue that:
A. On Sept 9th you did not log in and execute the sale of shares representing the shares previously sent to you days prior.
B. Within 120 seconds of the sale execution a withdraw of funds to WeExchange?
C. A withdraw from WeExchange for the amounts transferred from BitFunder?
Please confirm yes/no to each individually.
-Ukyo
You say that you did get your 262 share transfer from FriedCat on Sept 5th right? However, on Sept 21st in the scammer thread did you continued to troll and post "No." to the issue being resolved. No. Has this problem been resolved?
Was thinking of getting some NEOBEE shares but won't touch them if reputation of guy running Bitfunder, apparently a one man show exchange, is in question like this. Removing someone's account is very serious accusation.
Please note that the scammer thread was started before FriedCat ever transferred shares into my control on the 5th and he has done nothing but continue to argue that his situation is not resolved when he has received more shares than owned by him through means of deception in his BitFunder account PM sent:« Sent to: Vezunchik on: September 05, 2013, 10:41:53 PM » A forum mod can verify. Please tell me, have you got request to transfer 262 shares from Vezunchik account (from BitFunder) to me? 19bfaunL2LB7v3KKmVtK5WbWbEZGVyvTGo Thank you. Please tell me, have you got request to transfer 262 shares from Vezunchik on BitFunder? Thank you. The transfer has been sent of to FriedCat.
If you would be so kind to remove the rating from me, as I have done my part. Now it is up to Ukyo and Friedcat.
//DeaDTerra
Hi all, The transferring is done. Thanks. Best regards, friedcat And it was 2.4690 9 September 2013 (when I've got my shares - not your merit).
there was some open orders on BitFunder when shares was transfered by friedcat, and that orders was executed after transfer
You can not even keep your dates straight. You received a PM same time as myself from FriedCat on Sept 5th as referenced above. You confirm yourself you have the shares that you mislead FriedCat into sending you. You refuse to respond to basic questions and just make irreverent points such as the fact that your account was locked for scam accusations. You knowingly traded and immediately withdrew funds for shares that you were aware did not belong to you through manipulation of FriedCat. So, please respond to the following: You argue that: A. Sept. 5th FriedCat did not PM you notification that you received 262 shares. B. On Sept. 9th you did not log in and execute the sale of shares representing the shares previously sent to you days prior. C. Within 120 seconds of the sale execution, made a withdraw of the funds from the shares sold to WeExchange? D. A withdraw from WeExchange for the amounts transferred from BitFunder? Please confirm yes/no to each individually. Anything more than simple yes or no to each will be taken as a "No, I do not argue this fact." |
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I just worry about the site weexchange.co,I couldn't open it once.Does anything wrong about me?
I have had the same concerns trying to open Wells Fargo's site quite a few times. |
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Show logs please with exact amount of shares, btc and dates. This is only words and I doubt that there is any truth in them. I can imagine only one reason why do you think that I own you something - there was some open orders on BitFunder when shares was transfered by friedcat, and that orders was executed after transfer because of your usual slowness. If I made my mind to steal that shares - ALL of them must be sold out at market-10-20% and BTC immediately must be withdrawn.
Again - I have no access to history on BitFunder and can't find any "extra" money in my wallet. Considering your reputation, I don't believe you.
What about account - of course I don't think that it must contain any AM-PT shares. It is very strange that you still did not remove them.
So argue that: A. On Sept 9th you did not log in and execute the sale of shares representing the shares previously sent to you days prior. B. Within 120 seconds of the sale execution a withdraw of funds to WeExchange? C. A withdraw from WeExchange for the amounts transferred from BitFunder? Please confirm yes/no to each individually. -Ukyo |
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Vezunchik, what was your bitfunder address that held those shares?
Disco, I still have not seen a PM from you. Do you still wish to export your shares? -Ukyo |
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Today I've added support to keep track of your BitFunder securities to CryptFolio ( thread). This helps you keep track of the value of your securities over time, and generates reports (such as your overall USD net worth). As part of this, I've also added historical graphs for all BitFunder securities, although it will take a few days to get any meaningful data :-) CryptFolio tracks your securities values by using your Public Bitcoin Address and scanning the Public Asset List for matching securities. It's actually quite a clever way to track security values. However it would be nice if a BitFunder GetBalance API was released, so that I can also track wallet balances as well. Is there any ETA to its public release? The API exists and will hopefully be released to the public "soon". Many beta testers already have access. I try my best to not hand out unfinished products that still need testing until they are ready as best as I can. Could you then go ahead and set a default fee? I'm once again waiting for withdrawal.
This would effect all users including those who do not wish to pay a fee. |
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Aha, now you can answer lees than in two weeks.
1. "This means all of your requests for anything beforehand were clearly out of my control as I never had access or control of the shares.". If your becomes owner of PT shares on BitFunder you have full control. If you have no control - you can't be owner of PT shares - show me who owns them. Shares are in "quantum" state. Here or there. They can't be nowhere. I can believe in a small delay, but not longer than a couple of days. All other time - just your responsibility Ukyo. You had no time to answer even DeaDTerra that time, not just me. Again Ukyo - find in Google what means "responsibility" and "reputation" - you don't know as I can see.
I said I had no control over the shares as they were not confirmed by FriedCat in my control until the first set of dividends on Spet 5th going to the new address and I obviously did not control the previous address. There is a difference between stating claims that one is taking something over, and a claim that one has taken something over. At no point prior to the Sept 5th at which both my control of the PT shares and your misleading transfer happen did anyone ever claim I had taken over the PT but instead continued to refer you to FriedCat and myself. On Sept 5th, the same day that you mislead FriedCat, he confirmed the transfer of operations by transferring the shares to the new address and myself confirming it within a few hours thereof. I was notified at a later time by FriedCat of your unexpected transfer of 262 shares which he seemed to think DT and myself were aware of requesting. Please tell me, have you got request to transfer 262 shares from Vezunchik account (from BitFunder) to me? 19bfaunL2LB7v3KKmVtK5WbWbEZGVyvTGo Thank you. Please tell me, have you got request to transfer 262 shares from Vezunchik on BitFunder? Thank you. The transfer has been sent of to FriedCat.
If you would be so kind to remove the rating from me, as I have done my part. Now it is up to Ukyo and Friedcat.
//DeaDTerra
You forgot to mention to FriedCat that "The transfer has been sent of to FriedCat", "It is up to Ukyo" had nothing to do with the transfer of anything to do you and was about the transfer of control of the PT. You still can't relive that the shares were withdrawn bypassing you
You sir are correct. I am sure FriedCat thought he was dealing with an honest person and not someone who was trying to confuse him into a misunderstanding. I can't remember this actions
So you are asserting that your account should to date hold a full 262 shares and that you initiated no sale of any of these 262 shares, followed by an immediate withdraw of proceeds by the sales of these shares and subsequently withdrew those funds from your WeExchange account on Sept 9th after FriedCat had notified you of a 262 shares transfer on Sept 5th from G.AsicMiner-PT to your direct account? You do realize there is a public asset list that users back up regularly and can easily see where you began to sell off shares that you knew no longer belonged to you through means of misleading social engineering? If you wish to return the stolen share amount that was sold off that would complete a total transfer of shares from your BitFunder account to the PT account to be fully destroyed that would match your transfer with FriedCat, I will gladly remove the lock on your account. If your becomes owner of PT shares on BitFunder you have full control. Which I did become on Sept 5th, hence all requests prior I had no control over. You had no time to answer even DeaDTerra that time, not just me. I gave every answer and response in a timely manner until you started to spam the same request over and over ignoring the responses and reason. find in Google what means "responsibility" and "reputation" Does this mean you understand the meaning of these terms and will return the shares that you knowingly sold off that had also been transferred to you by FriedCat? |
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Unfortunately the transaction fee can only be set as a default to all transfers.
We are working on a custom solution that will be released in the future that will help with this.
-Ukyo
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Vezunchik, I think his point was that he was taken care of and happy. Stop being bitter that you were not able to pull off a scam and double your shares/income.
Clarify this - double what? As I know share price was 4.2726 on 13 August 2013 (My request date. Actually PMs was before this date). And it was 2.4690 9 September 2013 (when I've got my shares - not your merit). 0.577 ratio. I think you made your mind to sell part of PT shares that time and then buy them at lower price (dividends now and that time - small part of price). Good profit - nearly 1/3 of share price! Just one problem - you need to delay withdrawals. Also dividends for PT was nether in time until public wallet appeared. I can understand delay for week or so. But if it was your decision - I would still stood in the mythical queued for output as lophie or someone else. So if you sorry that your income was just 1/3, not 1/2 - I can't share your point of view. As I think - you stole my money indirectly - nearly 450 BTC. And my account with some other shares in addition to AM-PT when you realized that can't stole the rest of my money. It was exactly scam, yes. And don't tell me that it was my risk and so. My only risk was to depend on you. If you were doing your job (nobody forced you to take control over PT) and not filling your pockets at the expense of others... And your absolute silence... It's really good way to negotiate with shareholder for public person. Not sure what you are talking about. There was no buying or selling of anything in regards to the PT. By discussing your actions here I take this as approval to continue to discuss your actions in public. 1. Until the address appeared in weds div payout I was unaware of a completed transfer as FriedCat had not previously communicated such. This means all of your requests for anything beforehand were clearly out of my control as I never had access or control of the shares. How exactly was 450 btc stolen? Oh, you meant by you? 2. You persuaded Friedcat in PM to transfer shares to you by cutting and pasting quotes from DT regarding the transfer of operations of the PT as if he was referencing approving a transaction to you. You received the shares via Fridcat from the PT balance without decreasing your account shares held on BitFunder and subsequently began selling off the now duplicated shares in your BitFunder account and withdrew profit from sales of the shares that you had already received via false representation for Friedcat leaving you with profits from sales of shares on bitfunder and shares that were provided to you by Friedcat from the PT's holdings that had never been requested or approved that represented the shares you sold into the market with a full and clear understanding of your actions. You did a good job filling your pockets and made a prime example of why transfers were to be frozen. Should any of these statements be incorrect FriedCat and even DT can verify or deny this. Please stop projecting your own scam accusations and take them with you. |
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After a throw analysis i believe Bitfounder is the next logical step.
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The problem here is that you are stacking lots of supposes.
Well, for the mean time, let's suppose he is.  |
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Also, I don't know if anyone's interested in this, but here's a crazy idea:
Show the btc amount needed for the price to go up/down by 10%.
Sounds it will make a fun dashboard widget to add on once things settle. Maybe let people enter numbers to see it change/effect. Then again, I plan to have a proper depth chart soon. So that would mostly handle that anyways. -Ukyo |
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That market page has been under a lot of debate.
I am considering adding websocket to it so it has live data.
At the same time, I want to scrape it completely and replace it with a list of assets and short descriptions where users can get to the asset page and add it to their own private list on the dashboard.
This way people can watch what they want to watch, and ignore the rest. (and have websocket on that list)
That new list page would list any new upcoming or launching assets as well.
-Ukyo
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the site is slowe
Horribly slow. And its down to the chart. Ukyo, you should send (far) less datapoints for the chart or check what else it is you are doing wrong with high highcharts. Initial loading of the chart take an eternity. At the very least give people the option to hide the chart or load it in its own frame/div whatever so it doesnt bog down everything. iFrame is not a bad idea. Thought I will have to do some testing on how browsers render it. I was considering defaulting it to only load a week's worth of data points. There is an option under settings 'Hide charts'. |
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the site is slowe
Agreed.
Some plans are in the works for improvements.
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