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161  Economy / Economics / Re: Capitalism on: March 04, 2017, 01:14:33 AM
People should promote local products and be proud, it would a good way to have economic progress for any country. Stopping capitalism will help to balance the socio-economic hierarchy.

Capitalism has demonstrated that it is the only successful economic theory, with its competitors collapsing by the roadside over the last 100 years. Even China, which at one point was incorruptibly communist, has moved on. I think it is a bit too late to be talking about 'stopping capitalism'.

I agree with you, Capitalism is not perfect but has proven to be the best among all the economic theory, competition brings out the best in people just look at the rate of growth in tech companies in the past 15years, you can't get that if it is government controlled communism

The word is dead.  It has no meaning that people agree on.   

Instead why not use more words to actually describe policy and behavior? 

You could talk about trade practices, motivational factors of organizations, currency issuance, taxation, societal norms, distribution of surplus and management of scarcity; there are many real issues. 

"Capitalism" isn't one of them.  In theory you could make a definition and use it, but in practice It's too polemic a term to save. 

Oh and look at the rate of growth of tech companies, you'll see that intervention by money issuers and folks hiding behind the name of government agencies have played a huge role.  Mostly in a negative sense if you ask me but that's a separate issue.   



Maybe capitalism is no longer the future of the system, but we must understand that the progress that we have today, it is a merit of the political and economic system that has existed for over a hundred years.

That's one way to look at it.  However plenty of folks argue convincingly that we have never seen capitalism, seeing as nations exist (well, sorta) and markets are all manipulated, especially if fiat currency is involved.  Some people associate capitalism with "free markets" and "efficient markets"..  one doesn't have to look far to see goods and services which have different values at different places which wouldn't be possible if we did have free and efficient markets.  My point is really just that we should speak specifically about what market conditions, political conditions, or whatever it is - directly and with plenty of words to convey our meanings.  Throwing out a polemic like "capitalism" or "socialism" only puts a damper on effective communication. 

 
 
162  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why would banks use a blockchain? on: March 02, 2017, 11:58:49 AM
The only answer is profit. Everything that banks do is only because they see the opportunity to earn money and make profit. They see in blockchain new technology they could easily use in they business, lower the costs and run profitable business. Simple as that. But the fact that banks will implement blockchain technology will not influence Bitcoin in negative way.

Yup.  Customers want to use blockchain assets like bitcoin and so financial services providers (aka banks) will need to use a blockchain to enable these services. 
163  Economy / Economics / Re: Capitalism on: March 02, 2017, 08:23:56 AM
People should promote local products and be proud, it would a good way to have economic progress for any country. Stopping capitalism will help to balance the socio-economic hierarchy.

Capitalism has demonstrated that it is the only successful economic theory, with its competitors collapsing by the roadside over the last 100 years. Even China, which at one point was incorruptibly communist, has moved on. I think it is a bit too late to be talking about 'stopping capitalism'.

I agree with you, Capitalism is not perfect but has proven to be the best among all the economic theory, competition brings out the best in people just look at the rate of growth in tech companies in the past 15years, you can't get that if it is government controlled communism

The word is dead.  It has no meaning that people agree on.   

Instead why not use more words to actually describe policy and behavior? 

You could talk about trade practices, motivational factors of organizations, currency issuance, taxation, societal norms, distribution of surplus and management of scarcity; there are many real issues. 

"Capitalism" isn't one of them.  In theory you could make a definition and use it, but in practice It's too polemic a term to save. 

Oh and look at the rate of growth of tech companies, you'll see that intervention by money issuers and folks hiding behind the name of government agencies have played a huge role.  Mostly in a negative sense if you ask me but that's a separate issue.   


164  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Woodcoin [LOG] Pure Skein POW, Logarithmic Release, No Premine nor ICO on: March 01, 2017, 08:39:40 PM
Glad to hear it Epsylon3 and many thanks for your work !  Please keep us posted if there are any developments. 

In other news..   only related to woodcoin tangentially through the logarithm function, I made a fun little program to determine your next log-birthday. 

http://github.com/funkshelper/log-birthdays/

Here's a sample output, as applied to woodcoin:

ENTER BIRTHDATE OF OBJECT: (as format Jun 18 2009) > Oct 21 2014
now: 1488400086871
then: 1413864000000
AGE OF OBJECT:
seconds    7.4536088E7
minutes    1242268.0
hours     20704.0
days      862.0
weeks     123.0
months    31.0
years    2.3600042
great-years    9.157594E-5

 LOG AGE OF OBJECT (base e, 2, 10):
seconds  :    18   26   7
minutes  :    14   20   6
hours   :    9   14   4
days    :    6   9   2
weeks   :    4   6   2
months  :    3   4   1
years  :    0   1   0
great-years :    -9   -13   -4


Next Log Birthday Is: hours   turning 10 in 55 days
Next Log2 Birthday Is: months  turning 5 in 11 days
Next Log10 Birthday Is: great-years turning -4 in 78 days
165  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Woodcoin [LOG] Pure Skein POW, Logarithmic Release, No Premine nor ICO on: February 28, 2017, 10:55:39 PM
just read the 5 last pages near https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=831003.msg15671896#msg15671896 and https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=831003.msg15731462#msg15731462

i dont had my answer and i dont want to promote possibly hacked block chains

Thanks for bringing this up again Epsylon3.  Yeah these events were disturbing while I watched them go down, and picked through the history, but I don't see anything that made me think "hacked block chains".  

Allow me to clarify the events of several months ago.

What appears to have happened (please correct me if I'm wrong) is that at least two separate miners had very large hash capability, enough to perform effectively a 51% attack on the network.  While one was doing "drive-by-hashing", putting a large amount of work into the network and then leaving (to mine another coin?) after the difficulty went up, another was combating this actor by remining the blocks which took place during the low difficulty and building up a longer chain which eventually removed the rewards of the first attacker.  

According to this theory, the second of these players didn't mean any harm to you but you were caught in the crossfire and blocks that your pool mined were then orphaned when he/she presented the network with a much longer chain.  In some recognition of this the second attacker sent you some of the newly issued LOGs as "rain".  

Clients seeing a much longer chain do what they are supposed to do - they accept the chain which presents the most work.  This is basic blockchain dynamics and although it can be annoying and presents issues I don' t think there is a separate hack or vulnerability at play here.  If there is evidence of one, I would certainly be interested to hear it.  

In any case, the hashpower of the network is now a good factor of 5 or so larger than it was during that era, and I have seen no signs of such behavior recently.  It is still possible however to be overpowered by a large attacker.  We should be aware of this possibility in doing business on any public coin. 



166  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Woodcoin [LOG] Pure Skein POW, Logarithmic Release, No Premine nor ICO on: February 22, 2017, 11:54:09 AM
until i understand what happened and how.. its closed on yiimp

Thanks for clarifying Epsylon3.  Well what happened? 
167  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Woodcoin [LOG] Pure Skein POW, Logarithmic Release, No Premine nor ICO on: February 21, 2017, 09:20:42 PM
any pool available?

It appears that yiimp is still solving blocks:
http://yiimp.ccminer.org/explorer/313
http://yiimp.ccminer.org/

The spurnova pool also appears online but I don' t see any hash there:
https://wood.suprnova.cc/

In other news:

https://qz.com/804022/health-benefits-japanese-forest-bathing/?utm_source=qzfbarchive

168  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Woodcoin [LOG] Pure Skein POW, Logarithmic Release, No Premine nor ICO on: February 10, 2017, 03:53:20 PM
An Apology

I must apologize for my complete failure of management capability.  The end results are that a few of the informational websites including woodcoin.org and the explorer.woodcoin.org block explorer as well as the frass blog are now down.  Perhaps worse is that tempers flared and personal differences arose among some of my friends that have been contributing to woodcoin related infrastructure.  好丢面子。 The responsibility here is squarely on my shoulders for allowing these issues to come to your attention at a time when there is already so much work to do.  

If you are reading this, your feedback in terms of what you want to see at woodcoin.org or what other resources might help would be highly appreciated at this critical juncture.  A new version is in progress.

The good news is that the woodcoin network itself is completely unaffected by my failures here, and continues to show steadily increasing hash rate and transaction activity.  I am hopeful we can move past these issues quickly and get on to more interesting concerns in the evolution of the codebases that power the network.              

Yours in the realm of the publicly issued coin -  




169  Economy / Economics / Re: USD vs BTC on: February 03, 2017, 06:38:42 PM
Not yet. Dollar is still the most popular currency. For many years dollar secured it's position successfully as the top global currency. So it's tough for bitcoin to get over it

Not to be a broken record here or anything but 5 times as many people use CNY than USD.  Just saying, not exactly the top currency is it. 
170  Other / Politics & Society / Re: MARS colonization or MINING in cosmos on: February 02, 2017, 06:18:25 PM
Take a look at the costs, you'll find it's absurd. 

Going up and down the gravity well is expensive as all hell.  You'll never make that back no matter what you find on Ceres or the Moon.  Even if it were already stacked in refined bars waiting for you to pick them up!! 

OK as a fully subsidized mission with no profitability other than a technology subsidy, sure.  But as a proper business?  No way. 

At least not until we get that space elevator built Wink 



There are several projects to build a space elevator until 2050.
I think cost estimates were around 50-100 billion $ with usage of graphene or similar super materials.

It's hard to put a cost estimate on something that doesn't exist.  No material has been found which has anywhere near the required strength to weight ratio. 

This is wrong. Super materials that have a a high enough tensile strength already exist.
One of them is graphen. With a taper ratio of 1 and at GEO (around 36.000 km) the burden on graphen would only reach 87% of its tensile strength.

Edit the energy balance sheet of a space elevator doesnt have to be negative.
You could use gravity on the way to back to earth to recollect the energy needed to move the elevator upwards.

Graphene ribbons might do the trick, sure.  Might.  But do you know how to make them?  Can you make them well enough to do so - to deploy them from a geostationary platform?  5000 miles of ribbon and have it hold not only its own weight but all the friction of the atmospheric drag?  I don't think we are to the point yet where a cost could be put on this.  That fact that people are trying to put "dollar" figures on the costs here kinda proves this point - they aren't talking sense.



 




171  Other / Politics & Society / Re: A beautiful disaster for the Philippines on: February 02, 2017, 04:47:30 PM
I see that a lot of people are talking about the Philippines and their President. So how exactly is he achieving this. Is this the guy who's like killing them, even if they come from another country? If so it would be interesting how such tactic turn out.
No he dont like killings watch one of his video when he said about killings he needs to do it to save his nation all he wants is PEACE in his country and to achieve you need ORDER to fix the country and DEVELOPED in the near future. His mind is far from ordinary person his vision is too wide too many plans and v ery unpredictable moves. But at the end of the day he makes the dream becomes reality.

He who supports prohibition is fascist corrupt scum, always and everywhere.  Ignorance is no excuse. 

Drugs are too dangerous to put in the hands of criminals. 

Sometimes, who are those supporting are the one who have the main idea and sometimes he/she is the source of drug dealers. Drugs is very dangerous if misused, sometimes we are not well practice about this drugs, sometimes, drugs user abuses themselves, they overuses drugs, and lead them to be addicted with it.

Absolutely true.  Instead of prohibition and so-called profiteering from these dangers, we should be pursuing education and treatment.  Prohibition says "we don't care about you - we just want to pretend we are profiting from your troubles by institutionalizing fascism".  Don't put up with it.  Speak out against it and pursue the rational course suggested by religious leaders, law enforcement, and really anybody who is literate:  end drug prohibition. 

 

 
172  Other / Politics & Society / Re: MARS colonization or MINING in cosmos on: February 01, 2017, 02:39:30 PM
Take a look at the costs, you'll find it's absurd. 

Going up and down the gravity well is expensive as all hell.  You'll never make that back no matter what you find on Ceres or the Moon.  Even if it were already stacked in refined bars waiting for you to pick them up!! 

OK as a fully subsidized mission with no profitability other than a technology subsidy, sure.  But as a proper business?  No way. 

At least not until we get that space elevator built Wink 



There are several projects to build a space elevator until 2050.
I think cost estimates were around 50-100 billion $ with usage of graphene or similar super materials.

It's hard to put a cost estimate on something that doesn't exist.  No material has been found which has anywhere near the required strength to weight ratio. 
173  Other / Politics & Society / Re: A beautiful disaster for the Philippines on: January 30, 2017, 10:18:32 PM
I see that a lot of people are talking about the Philippines and their President. So how exactly is he achieving this. Is this the guy who's like killing them, even if they come from another country? If so it would be interesting how such tactic turn out.
No he dont like killings watch one of his video when he said about killings he needs to do it to save his nation all he wants is PEACE in his country and to achieve you need ORDER to fix the country and DEVELOPED in the near future. His mind is far from ordinary person his vision is too wide too many plans and v ery unpredictable moves. But at the end of the day he makes the dream becomes reality.

He who supports prohibition is fascist corrupt scum, always and everywhere.  Ignorance is no excuse. 

Drugs are too dangerous to put in the hands of criminals. 
174  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Just 8 men own same wealth as half the world on: January 30, 2017, 10:13:14 PM
Exactly, i don't know if what type of user he is but usually a normal person is satisfied with the microsoft OS and aside from that they are widely known as well for their ms office it is i guess the most widely used editing type. They have actually a good products and that is why they are still on the market right now as well as the founder.

I have used various operating systems including Windows, IOS, Fedora, and Ubuntu. I found Windows the most user friendly. For tech savvy people, Ubuntu may be better, but the vast majority of the remainder is going to chose Windows.

This is quite an outlier case.  I've never seen a client wish to return to a windows environment after having a non-backdoored system, mostly just because it winds up being faster and easier to use.  This is for folks of little to no technical ability. 

People "choose" windows because it comes preinstalled and nobody has told them a much easier and more functional option exists.  Who would tell them?  There's no advertising or company to say anything.  You have to be lucky enough to have somebody in your life who knows something about computers. 
175  Other / Politics & Society / Re: MARS colonization or MINING in cosmos on: January 30, 2017, 10:08:48 PM
Take a look at the costs, you'll find it's absurd. 

Going up and down the gravity well is expensive as all hell.  You'll never make that back no matter what you find on Ceres or the Moon.  Even if it were already stacked in refined bars waiting for you to pick them up!! 

OK as a fully subsidized mission with no profitability other than a technology subsidy, sure.  But as a proper business?  No way. 

At least not until we get that space elevator built Wink 

176  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: BITCOIN IS BETTER THAN WESTERN UNION ? on: January 30, 2017, 07:46:35 PM
I still can't find the western union coin on any exchange.  How many BTC is it worth?  Is it publicly or privately issued?  There must be some comparison here, a lot of people have opinions on it, yet I can't find the thing.  

You can't be serious, right? In case you are in fact serious, no, it's not an altcoin, so stop browing through exchanges. Western union is a fiat based money transfer service. Just use Google and you'll find out.

OK so how can we compare a money transfer company to a peer-to-peer decentralized currency?  

I mean, western union could also transfer bitcoins if they chose.  The comparison is like saying what's better: fruit or wall-mart?  

Not mean to be rude but where have you been all this time man, do you know about PayPal?
Check on Google " Western Union?", It will show you all information about it.
WU is not a coin obviously, it is a remittance service all over the world but handle fiat transaction (send-receive money) read about it https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Union
What we compare is how many value of money/equal to bitcoin in global transaction.
What makes bitcoin better is the low fees of bitcoin compare to higher fees to use WU service.


Hey mate, just trying to make a point, sorry. 

We might as well ask - which is better, dollars or western union? 

Actually a far better comparison would be Bitpay and Western Unioin, as both are third party payment providers. 

Of course if we can use dollars or bitcoin directly, we don't need either of these companies and will do better without them.  Their niche is for when we are dealing in situations in which we can't do so directly, for whatever reason (such as the recipient is in police custody). 

Cheers - 
177  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: BITCOIN IS BETTER THAN WESTERN UNION ? on: January 30, 2017, 03:10:08 PM
I still can't find the western union coin on any exchange.  How many BTC is it worth?  Is it publicly or privately issued?  There must be some comparison here, a lot of people have opinions on it, yet I can't find the thing.  

You can't be serious, right? In case you are in fact serious, no, it's not an altcoin, so stop browing through exchanges. Western union is a fiat based money transfer service. Just use Google and you'll find out.

OK so how can we compare a money transfer company to a peer-to-peer decentralized currency? 

I mean, western union could also transfer bitcoins if they chose.  The comparison is like saying what's better: fruit or wall-mart? 
178  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: BITCOIN IS BETTER THAN WESTERN UNION ? on: January 30, 2017, 11:33:30 AM
I still can't find the western union coin on any exchange.  How many BTC is it worth?  Is it publicly or privately issued?  There must be some comparison here, a lot of people have opinions on it, yet I can't find the thing.  
179  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Woodcoin [LOG] Pure Skein POW, Logarithmic Release, No Premine nor ICO on: January 29, 2017, 08:04:09 AM
新年快乐!

A happy and successful year of the Chikun to all woodcutters, stackers, and interested persons.

The network has been very stable in the last few weeks, thanks to all participants.  We recently hit a new all time high difficulty above 400.  Exchange prices remains remarkably stable.
   
Let's focus on a few things in the coming year:

1)  Maintaining and growing community of woodcoin users interested in doing something useful in a broader sense, not just "making money"  as a goal on its own. 
We wish to educate and promote publicly issued currency of a stable and longlived variety because we care about the people, we care about protecting the living things, and we wish to pursue lofty goals which take place on time scales longer than our lifetimes.  A major goal is eliminating corruption that leads to waste and devastation.  OK maybe you aren't a treehugger but perhaps you can get on board with this anyway. 

2) Educational websites.  We are working on better efforts here to show people how to use this technology.  First round should be out within a month. 

3) Wallets.  We are working on better looking wallets for Windows and Android platforms at the moment.  We aim to have versions in English and 中文 added to app stores in this quarter. 

We also keep a special eye on litecoin in this year to see what we can learn.  Some decisions about scaling will have to be made eventually.   

Remember we are on a long term path here, so 慢走 , take it easy, and enjoy the ride.  It won't be for another 15 years that the economics of a logarithmic supply release forces itself upon the bitcoin issuance plan of geometric release supply in a way that nobody can ignore.

So to sum up, I didn't have much to report, but happy new year! 



180  Economy / Economics / Re: If bitcoin price is $10.000, will fiat be worthless? on: January 29, 2017, 07:38:48 AM
Fiat can never be worthless even if price of bitcoins goes that high as we know the fact that we cannot spend bitcoins directly and whenever we want to spend them we need to convert them to fiat first so till this scenario doesn't change I don't think fiat is going anywhere as people will need fiat to convert their bitcoins.

Lol, and the moon is made of fish eggs.  Balloons will never deflate and we know nobody ever eats without a spoon carved in the shape of Qetzlcoatl. 
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