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161  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [Password Leak] LinkedIn database hacked on: June 06, 2012, 09:08:50 PM
"Just provide your password (which we hash with JavaScript; view source to verify) or a SHA-1 hash of your password below, and we'll check."

browser hashes password -----sends to server-----> server replies if hash matches.



Oh that's okay then... as long as it says "we're honest" on the website, it must be fine.
The source is available for anyone to read.

Just change your password on linkedin, then you don't need to worry about if the source is read able or anything. Problem Solved Smiley
Uhhh…as well as every other site where you may have happened to use the same username and password.  People really do need a way of testing whether specific passwords are in that list…because many may have forgotten what password they used (with browser autofill, etc) and if they reset it, well, that doesn't tell them which password has been compromised.  Otherwise, they may need to change every password on every site, which can be tedious.

Just more justification to use unique, generated passwords on every site.
162  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Need to buy BTC w/ USD on: June 06, 2012, 12:59:05 AM
Cash deposit to bitfloor is free and right now you can buy them for $5.27 (their fee for liquidity takers is 0.4%).  Also, you can buy on CampBX for as low as $5.15 right now.  They have several forms of free deposit and I believe their fee is 0.55%, but I don't think they have cash deposits yet (so it will be a little slower).  BitInstant is also fast (their fees vary depending on the gazillion options they offer).
163  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: CampBX. Dwolla deposit problems? on: June 05, 2012, 02:06:21 PM
Looks like a great arbitrage opportunity between campbx and mtgox right now.  And bitfloor too.
164  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The Demise of BitPak on: June 01, 2012, 10:53:43 PM
I hope the market will speak and these platforms are forced to open up to alternative app stores.  If I'm not mistaken, even Android phones are locked by carriers into walled gardens for their apps (mostly because carriers want to charge extra for tethering).  Fortunately it's pretty trivial to unlock or jailbreak these devices (I wouldn't buy any device that I couldn't jailbreak).

What I would like to see is an app store that actually did review and approve apps, but that the criteria is solely that the app is relatively bug free and free of viruses, spyware or malware.  I would pay a premium to buy apps in such an app store.  I'm hoping that maybe Cydia or someone like them figures this out and starts such a premium app store.  Then I hope they make enough money doing it that they can sue Apple and the others to open up their platforms for alternative app stores.
165  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The Demise of BitPak on: June 01, 2012, 06:47:41 PM
Why not start a separate Android vs iPhone debate thread I can more easily ignore?

There was no debate.  Still the ignore button is over there on there on the left your highness.
On a more serious note, I think this issue will become moot once the mobile browsers all support the media access APIs (http://dev.w3.org/2011/webrtc/editor/getusermedia.html).  There won't be a need for native apps on either iPhone or Android and nobody's approval necessary.
166  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The Demise of BitPak on: June 01, 2012, 05:50:58 PM
Why not start a separate Android vs iPhone debate thread I can more easily ignore?
167  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The Demise of BitPak on: June 01, 2012, 04:29:36 PM
Even if there is a jurisdiction where a legal issue arises, isn't the logical answer just to not sell in that jurisdiction? If I'm the president of Zimbabwe and make video game depictions of birds illegal, does the world lose angry birds? Maybe it's illegal in the MC/Visa jursidiction?  Roll Eyes
Another good point…and it makes me wonder if there aren't already other apps that are in fact illegal in some jurisdictions and for which Apple has allowed, but disabled just in those jurisdictions.
Steve, your stuff runs on iOS doesn't it? Has it been subject to any limitations?
We don't have any native apps, just web apps optimized for smartphone screens.
168  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The Demise of BitPak on: June 01, 2012, 02:54:36 PM
Even if there is a jurisdiction where a legal issue arises, isn't the logical answer just to not sell in that jurisdiction? If I'm the president of Zimbabwe and make video game depictions of birds illegal, does the world lose angry birds? Maybe it's illegal in the MC/Visa jursidiction?  Roll Eyes
Another good point…and it makes me wonder if there aren't already other apps that are in fact illegal in some jurisdictions and for which Apple has allowed, but disabled just in those jurisdictions.
169  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The Demise of BitPak on: June 01, 2012, 02:53:21 PM
Was it hosting the block chain in the app? Maybe AT&T and Verizon said get rid of it because of data or something.
No, we got the same answer from Apple. We're using the appeal process, for the second time, we got stonewalled the first time.
We're not excluding a lawsuit since, as paying customers (developer licenses are not free) we believe we are entitled to either :
 - get told where the legal issue resides,
 - OR get an official developer guidelines update explicitly stating that Bitcoin is not cool on the AppStore (which would mean lots of press!)
+1 …I really like this approach.  Apple may have the right to reject any app for any reason from its store, but if there really is a jurisdiction where Bitcoin is deemed illegal, I think developers have a right to know it.  Alternatively, if the truth is that Apple has just decided to ban Bitcoin (specifically), or virtual currencies (generally), they need to fess up and be honest about that (and yes, I would think a lot of people would be interested to know that Apple is trying to stifle competition in the area of payment solutions).
170  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [ANN] New AML Policy for all Dwolla users. on: May 29, 2012, 07:43:15 PM
tl;dr: There are more convenient options out there.   Both BitFloor and CampBX will do ACH withdrawals direct to your bank.  BitInstant will be offering that soon as well.
Over the last few weeks, it's been consistently cheaper to buy bitcoins from either bitfloor or campbx.  I expect this situation will persist due to the difficulty of getting dollars out of mtgox (people will demand a premium for selling bitcoins at mtgox).
171  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Tranasaction uncomfirmed for >24 hours on: May 22, 2012, 06:50:51 PM
I looked at it and all the input transactions…I have no explanation either, everything as reported by blockchain.info looks fine.  Bear in mind, blockchain.info could have bugs.  I wonder if perhaps the clients consider this to be a "spammy" transaction for some reason.  
172  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Argentina, on the verge of a new currency collapse on: May 22, 2012, 01:57:58 PM
I think it's possible that Argentina could be ripe for a Bitcoin related tipping point.  There is a decent tech community in Argentina.  Around the time of their last currency collapse (early 2000's) I worked on an open source project where there was a sizable number of Argentinian's involved.  They were offering to do software development work for very cheap prices due to the currency devaluation.  Given that this currency event is such a recent memory and given there is a decent tech community, Bitcoin might have a chance there.  However, I think a few things need to be in place ahead of the event.  

First and foremost, there need to be local bitcoin exchanges.  With capital controls in place, foreign exchanges won't do them much good.  It could be readily apparent to everyone that Bitcoin has value on mtgox, but if you can't sell your Bitcoins on mtgox and transfer it back into Argentina, mtgox is of no use to them.  And capital controls will only get more restricted as the event nears.

Second, there needs to be a decent and visible amount of people willing to accept Bitcoin in exchange for goods and services domestically.  The basics (food, shelter, clothing) are essential items that need to be readily obtained with Bitcoin.  This will give people the confidence that if they hold some Bitcoins, they'll be able to spend them to obtain these necessities.  It's of little use to people in Argentina to be able to purchase mining rigs with Bitcoin when their primary concern during a currency crisis it putting food on the table.

Third, there need to be a critical mass of people in Argentina that hold Bitcoin in advance of the currency devaluation.  If very few people in Argentina have Bitcoins, then to obtain Bitcoin, it may be necessary to market and sell goods or services to international buyers that have Bitcoin.  That might be challenging.  Also, if only a very tiny portion of people have Bitcoin, those few holders of Bitcoin would command a very disproportionately large percentage of purchasing power present in the country.  This might cause others to be reluctant to use it for a currency as opposed to something like silver coins or the remaining physical USD in circulation.  The people that have Bitcoins now would actually do better with their investment if they tried to spread some of it around to other people.
173  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What should I buy with $100 worth of BTC? on: May 22, 2012, 01:27:30 PM
Edit: I misread the title as "Why should I buy $100 worth of BTC" …I thought the OP was pondering what reasons one would have for possessing Bitcoin.  I suppose that still could have been the reason for the question.

It's an excellent question, but I think investment opportunities shouldn't be allowed as answers.  That's not to say that there aren't good investment opportunities (including Bitcoin itself), but it's important that Bitcoin be used for actual commerce.  It's possible that Bitcoin's monetary properties will make it worth holding regardless of whether it's ever used directly for much commerce.  It could prove to be an effective store of value even if merchants never directly accept it on a broad basis.  In my opinion that's a compelling reason to hold some Bitcoin, but Bitcoin will be much more compelling if there are plenty of commerce based reasons for holding some of it.  I also think you should disallow answers regarding speculation about future commercial uses of Bitcoin.  Here are a couple of commerce based reasons for having a few Bitcoins right now:

- to buy drugs on silk road …ok, I had to throw that one out there Wink
- to buy VPN services if you live in a part of the world that has restrictive firewalls for accessing the internet
- an easy way to pay people for services, or settle debts, without being subjected to limited banking hours, or handling paper checks, or waiting days for electronic payments to clear, or paying outrageous fees for international wires
- to save money on a purchase where Bitcoin sales are discounted due to the higher fees/risks that merchants have with other payment options
- to buy goods and services from eCommerce sites if you happen to live in an area where other payment options are cost prohibitive or outright impossible (there are many countries from which eCommerce websites either cannot accept credit card payments, or the fees are ridiculously high…like 20% high)
- to make purchases without divulging bank account or credit card information that could be stolen from a merchant with poor security practices

There are a lot of things that can be bought with Bitcoin, but not necessarily exclusively with Bitcoin or where Bitcoin offers any particular advantage over other payment methods.  I also think that the unique properties and capabilities of Bitcoin transactions will make it a compelling tool for many types of transactions in the future, but that's speculation about the future commercial uses of Bitcoin.  I also didn't list illegal uses of Bitcoin (aside from silk road) because if the predominant use of Bitcoin is for illegal activity, then Bitcoin will never see widespread use outside of criminal organizations.

What else can be added to this list that isn't speculation about the future utility of Bitcoin, that isn't investment oriented and that isn't illegal in nature?  The longer this list is, the better off Bitcoin will be.
174  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: [ANN] bitfloor cash deposit, ACH withdraw, and wire transfers on: May 22, 2012, 12:08:44 PM
We will not be offering MtGox USD vouchers for deposit due to the delays of moving USD funds out of MtGox. We are a US based exchange and will accept your cash deposits or bank checks. Our USD deposits are kept in US banks and are FDIC insured.

Well that answered it for me, you dont seem to have interest in catering for rest of the world. Not offering mtgox voucher will also not see you grow much within the next year if ever.
Lately, MtGox has been having issues moving money internationally.  In some cases, large withdrawals have taken quite a few weeks to process.  A MtGox voucher isn't worth much when it takes that long to process a withdrawal.  It's not surprising to me that the other exchanges are discontinuing their support for MtGox vouchers.  Does BitFloor support deposits via international wire transfer?
175  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: A public apology to Donald, Patrick and Amir ("Intersango guys") on: May 18, 2012, 11:49:08 PM
On a side note, it never ceases to amaze me at how companies (even financial ones) will send scanned forms full of sensitive information over email with no encryption and never give it a second thought.

Still more funny, try to convince a "conventional" finnancial institution you're working with to use something simple as PGP. You'll hit a wall of consultants not even knowing what encryption is, but communicating very "professionally" all day long....
I mentioned PGP once to a mortgage broker I was working with…they clearly had no idea what I was talking about, so I said never mind, I'll just drive over to the office…and they thought I was behind the times in that I couldn't handle it over email.   Roll Eyes
176  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The essence of Bitcoin and legality. on: May 18, 2012, 09:03:41 PM
Bitcoin is definitely free speech (I've recently started describing money as "information in the context of a social protocol"), but governments have a long history abridging the right to free speech…even in countries like the US where it's a constitutionally protected right.  In the case of bitcoin however, I do think you can make some very strong arguments for bitcoin on free speech grounds.  Ordinarily, to abridge the right to free speech, it has to be shown that speech would injure or harm someone.  I think it would be very difficult to argue that Bitcoin harms anyone.
177  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: A public apology to Donald, Patrick and Amir ("Intersango guys") on: May 18, 2012, 08:42:38 PM
Regarding the Bitcoin Consultancy and questions about why they haven't been more active in this mess...I don't know what their arrangement with Bitcoinica is, but if they hadn't fully taken over the operation of Bitcoinica and had no responsibility for the security or theft, then they might be wise put their relationship on hold until Bitcoinica sorts everything out first.  If the Bitcoin Consultancy had nothing to do with the security issue there's no reason they should have to clean up someone else's mess.  At the minimum they would probably want to first arrange compensation for the time and effort that will be required for them to clean up the mess.

It's very hard to judge whether they had anything do to with the security issue, because everything contributes to the disaster.

Patrick - compromised email server.
Me - improper access control.

Bitcoin Consultancy has fully taken over the management and the relationship is final. However, during the transition period, the access control is not defined properly and resulted in this problem. I have no knowledge of an insecure email server but I assigned admin rights to its user.
Oh, I see, well that's a bit different then.  I didn't have a chance to follow all the messages in these threads, but from the sound of it, someone inadvertently sent their hosting control panel password through an email server that was later compromised and gave someone access to the control panel?  I'll use this as a case in point in the future the next time someone dismisses the risk of sending sensitive information in the clear over email.  On a side note, it never ceases to amaze me at how companies (even financial ones) will send scanned forms full of sensitive information over email with no encryption and never give it a second thought.
178  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: A public apology to Donald, Patrick and Amir ("Intersango guys") on: May 18, 2012, 07:46:34 PM
Regarding the Bitcoin Consultancy and questions about why they haven't been more active in this mess...I don't know what their arrangement with Bitcoinica is, but if they hadn't fully taken over the operation of Bitcoinica and had no responsibility for the security or theft, then they might be wise put their relationship on hold until Bitcoinica sorts everything out first.  If the Bitcoin Consultancy had nothing to do with the security issue there's no reason they should have to clean up someone else's mess.  At the minimum they would probably want to first arrange compensation for the time and effort that will be required for them to clean up the mess.
179  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Intersango's address is a mail drop on: May 16, 2012, 05:43:51 PM
Given the small size of the company, they probably all just work from home offices…or really cheap office space somewhere.  The mailing address service they use is probably just to avoid having to use their home addresses.
180  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Dwolla changes TOS to prohibit Bitcoin transactions? on: May 16, 2012, 02:42:06 AM
Damn Dwolla to hell for biting the hand that fed them. How's the Tradehill lawsuit going?
I imagine the lawsuit and all the trouble they got into with the fraud and reversals with TradeHill was a big factor in updating their TOS.
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